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A00916 An adioynder to the supplement of Father Robert Persons his discussion of M. Doctor Barlowes ansvvere &c. Contayning a discouery, and confutation of very many foule absurdityes, falsities, and lyes in M. D. Andrewes his Latin booke intituled, Responsio ad apologiam Cardinalis Bellarmini &c. An answere to the apology of Card. Bellarmine. Written by F.T. ... Also an appendix touching a register alleaged by M. Franc. Mason for the lawfull ordayning of Protestant bishops in Q. Elizabeths raigne. Fitzherbert, Thomas, 1552-1640. 1613 (1613) STC 11022; ESTC S102269 348,102 542

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the_o cath._n church_n do_v at_o the_o relic_n of_o saint_n 443._o at_o valentia_n in_o spain_n ibid._n none_n wrought_v in_o the_o protestant_n church_n &_o why_o ibid._n monk_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n &_o their_o discipline_n .449_o their_o first_o institute_n approve_v by_o m._n andrews_n 448._o n_o name_n catholic_a belong_v only_o to_o the_o roman_a church_n 451._o s._n greg._n nazianz._n his_o approbation_n of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n pag._n 253._o to_o our_o b._n lady_n ibid._n s._n greg._n nissen_n his_o approbation_n of_o holy_a relic_n in_o the_o church_n 264._o of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n ibid._n his_o prayer_n to_o s._n theodor_n the_o martyr_n 267._o o_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n why_o it_o be_v unlawful_a 461._o origen_n his_o proof_n of_o s._n peter_n primacy_n 198._o p_o pastor_n their_o obligation_n of_o care_n of_o their_o church_n pag._n 76.78_o prayer_n to_o saint_n approve_v by_o s._n basil_n 218._o impugn_a by_o protestant_n 336.337_o conform_v to_o scripture_n &_o deduce_v from_o it_o 344._o power_n over_o the_o soul_n imply_v power_n over_o the_o body_n pag._n 126._o privilege_n grant_v to_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n pag._n 44.45.46_o abrogate_a by_o pope_n leo_n pa._n 47._o puritan_n their_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o king_n supremacy_n 419._o how_o some_o of_o they_o take_v the_o oath_n of_o supremacy_n 420._o s._n peter_n how_o he_o bear_v the_o person_n of_o the_o church_n when_o he_o receive_v the_o key_n pag._n 5._o his_o supremacy_n ground_v upon_o the_o word_n pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la pag._n 8._o acknowledge_v by_o s._n augustine_n pag._n 17._o by_o saint_n cyril_n ibid._n &_o by_o s._n hierome_n pag._n 119._o by_o origen_n 198._o by_o s._n hilary_n 199._o how_o he_o be_v call_v the_o light_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 103._o how_o he_o be_v reprehend_v by_o s._n paul_n pag._n 107._o how_o he_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 109._o prefer_v before_o s._n john_n &_o why_o pag._n 118_o how_o he_o may_v be_v call_v a_o monarch_n pag._n 134._o his_o fall_n no_o prejudice_n to_o his_o primacy_n pag._n 148._o q_o queen_n elizabeth_n her_o spiritual_a government_n give_v unto_o she_o by_o the_o parliament_n 476._o r_o reliqve_n of_o saint_n use_v in_o the_o church_n 284._o approve_a by_o s._n gregory_n nissen_n ibid._n m._n rogers_n against_o m._n andrews_n concern_v our_o english_a clergy_n 422_o 423._o roman_a church_n never_o fail_v in_o faith_n by_o god_n providence_n pag._n 124._o s_o saint_n pray_v unto_o in_o all_o age_n passim_fw-la how_o they_o hear_v our_o prayer_n and_o help_v we_o pag._n 288._o how_o they_o know_v our_o prayer_n and_o action_n 291.318.319_o practise_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n 334._o impugn_a by_o protestant_n out_o of_o scripture_n 336.337_o how_o they_o help_v we_o by_o the_o participation_n of_o christ_n power_n 347._o protector_n of_o city_n &_o country_n ibid._n schism_n whence_o it_o common_o arise_v pag._n 125._o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n 334.336_o sermon_n de_fw-la tempore_fw-la in_o latin_a and_o greek_a in_o s._n augustine_n time_n pag._n 146._o by_o s._n maximus_n bishop_n of_o turin_n 205._o siluerius_n the_o pope_n his_o usage_n by_o theodora_n and_o justinian_n pag._n 32.33_o defend_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o patera_n 24.35.36_o speech_n conditional_a do_v not_o always_o suppose_v a_o doubt_n in_o the_o speaker_n 261._o supremacy_n of_o s._n peter_n ground_v upon_o the_o word_n pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la pag._n 8._o prove_v by_o s._n chrisostome_n 142._o supremacy_n ecclesiastical_a of_o the_o king_n of_o england_n and_o m._n andrews_n conceit_n thereof_o .459_o exclude_v by_o a_o rule_n of_o m._n andrew_n 465._o t_o theodosius_fw-la the_o emperor_n invocate_v saint_n pag._n 286._o particular_o s._n john_n baptist._n ibid._n theodoretus_n restore_v to_o his_o bishopric_n by_o pope_n leo_n pag._n 59_o abuse_v by_o master_n andrew_n 307._o theodora_n the_o empress_n her_o practice_n against_o pope_n siluerius_n pag._n 31._o tyranny_n more_o frequent_a in_o small_a state_n then_o in_o great_a monarchy_n pag._n 130._o v_o vigilantius_n his_o heresy_n against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n pag._n 228._o resist_v by_o s._n hierome_n ibid._n 377.378.379_o m._n andrews_n his_o progenitor_n 377._o universal_a bishop_n the_o title_n give_v to_o the_o pope_n by_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n pag._n 68_o votive_a representation_n of_o hand_n foot_n eye_n etc._n etc._n hang_v up_o in_o church_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n 2●0_n w_n works●_n good_a work_n how_o the_o be_v say_v to_o save_v us._n 272._o writer_n of_o diverse_a part_n of_o scripture_n uncertain_a pag_n 250._o finis_fw-la the_o reason_n that_o move_v the_o author_n to_o add_v this_o adjoinder_n to_o the_o former_a suplement_n the_o author_n intention_n in_o this_o adjoinder_n what_o question_n be_v special_o handle_v in_o this_o adjoinder_n supplement_n chap._n 1._o nu_fw-la 58.59_o &_o seq_n d._n andr._n respon_n ad_fw-la apolog._n ca._n 1._o pag._n 16._o aug._n de_fw-fr agon_n christ._n c._n 30._o ambros._n de_fw-fr sacerd_v dignitate_fw-la cap._n 20._o s._n augustine_n lame_o and_o fraudulent_o allege_v by_o m._n andrews_n august_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la cic._n offic_n l._n 1._o how_o s._n peter_n do_v bear_v the_o person_n of_o the_o church_n when_o he_o receive_v the_o key_n s._n augustine_n meaning_n declare_v out_o of_o his_o own_o doctrine_n tract_n ult._n in_o joan._n idem_fw-la in_o ps._n 108._o idem_fw-la ser._n 13._o de_fw-fr verb._n dom._n m._n andrew_n fraud_n against_o the_o intention_n of_o s._n augustine_n s._n ambr._n de_fw-fr sacerd._n dignit_fw-la c_o 1._o the_o meaning_n of_o s._n ambrose_n declare_v andr._n ca._n 3._o pag._n 74._o §_o verum_fw-la ambr._n in_o 2._o cor._n 12._o idem_fw-la lib._n 10._o comment_n in_o cap._n 24._o euang_n luc._n s._n ambrose_n prove_v s._n peter_n supremacy_n out_o of_o the_o word_n pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la three_o thing_n teach_v by_o s._n ambrose_n d._n andrews_n can_v help_v the_o dice_n when_o he_o be_v put_v to_o his_o shift_n a_o vain_a brag_v of_o d._n andrews_n andr._n cap._n 8._o pag._n 214._o &_o 215._o the_o second_o argument_n &_o answer_n of_o m._n andrews_n which_o he_o take_v to_o be_v so_o sharp_a that_o it_o will_v prick_v the_o cardinal_n andr._n c._n 1._o pag._n 16._o §._o verun_v vim_o videamꝰ_n see_v suppl_n chap._n 1._o n._n 18.19_o &_o sequ_o num._n c._n 8._o num._n 1._o deut._n 10._o &_o 18._o supplem_n c._n 1._o n._n 22.23_o &_o 24._o suppl_n cap._n 1._o ubi_fw-la supr_n in_o what_o case_n christian_n may_v ground_v upon_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n m._n andrews_n his_o beggarly_a proof_n for_o a_o temporal_a prince_n spiritual_a supremacy_n see_v infra_fw-la cap._n 6._o m._n andrews_n proof_n of_o the_o temporal_a prince_n supremacy_n savour_v of_o judaism_n 2._o reg._n 5._o d._n andrews_n do_v equivocate_v egregious_o andr._n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la d._n andrews_n argue_v 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make_v s._n augustin_n &_o s._n cyril_n favour_n a_o pernicious_a heresy_n s._n augustine_n belie_v by_o d._n andrews_n aug._n ep._n 50._o s._n cyril_n notable_o abuse_v by_o m._n andrews_n cyril_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la andr._n pag_n 215._o §._o no●_n vero_fw-la m._n andrews_n worthy_o suspect_v to_o hold_v that_o magistrate_n fall_v from_o their_o dignity_n by_o mortal_a sin_n s._n cyril_n hierosol_n cathech_n mystag_n 2._o optat._n l._n 7._o de_fw-la schismate_fw-la donatistarun●_n the_o place_n of_o 3._o father_n allege_a by_o m._n andrews_n do_v confute_v he_o s._n chrysostome_n for_o s._n peter_n supremacy_n chrysost._n de_fw-fr sacerd._n l._n 2._o ibidem_fw-la ibid._n s._n leo._n ep_n 89._o idem_fw-la ser._n 3._o the_o assumpt_n sua_fw-la ad_fw-la pontif._n supplem_n cap._n 5._o nu_fw-la 25.26_o &_o 27._o euseb._n emis_fw-la ho._n de_fw-fr nativit_fw-la joan._n euan._n theophil_n in_o cap._n ult._n joan._n s._n ber._n l._n 2._o the_o consider_v psal._n 1.19_o psal._n 63._o m._n 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necessary_a to_o salvation_n which_o as_o i_o have_v say_v little_a import_v for_o the_o decision_n of_o the_o controversy_n whether_o the_o primitive_a church_n hold_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a or_o no._n 55._o for_o there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o many_o thing_n be_v and_o may_v be_v lawful_a yea_o very_a commendable_a and_o behooveful_a to_o salvation_n though_o they_o be_v not_o of_o such_o necessity_n but_o that_o a_o man_n may_v in_o some_o case_n be_v save_v without_o they_o as_o for_o example_n the_o evangelicall_a counsel_n and_o many_o work_n of_o supererogation_n as_o alm_n fast_v and_o such_o like_a which_o consist_v in_o act_n of_o voluntary_a devotion_n be_v convenient_a and_o notable_a help_n though_o not_o absolute_o necessary_a to_o every_o man_n salvation_n and_o therefore_o albeit_o his_o majesty_n seem_v not_o to_o bind_v himself_o further_o to_o admit_v the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o
how_o substantial_o he_o argue_v infer_v that_o the_o matter_n and_o substance_n of_o the_o oration_n be_v uncertain_a because_o it_o be_v doubtful_a of_o which_o cyprian_n the_o oration_n be_v make_v whereas_o nevertheless_o he_o can_v with_o any_o reason_n deny_v but_o that_o the_o oration_n be_v s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n whereupon_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o albeit_o nazianzen_n shall_v be_v deceive_v matth._n and_o err_v in_o the_o history_n or_o the_o person_n of_o who_o he_o speak_v yet_o the_o substance_n as_o well_o of_o the_o story_n as_o of_o the_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o that_o oration_n be_v true_a in_o his_o conceit_n and_o therefore_o may_v serve_v for_o a_o assure_a testimony_n of_o his_o belief_n &_o of_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o his_o time_n which_o be_v the_o only_a point_n now_o in_o question_n and_o therefore_o see_v that_o he_o not_o only_o pray_v to_o a_o saint_n himself_o but_o also_o signify_v that_o a_o holy_a virgin_n do_v the_o like_a it_o be_v clear_a that_o both_o he_o him●elfe_n and_o also_o the_o faithful_a people_n in_o those_o day_n hold_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a and_o practise_v it_o as_o occasion_n require_v 61._o and_o whereas_o m._n andrew_n add_v concern_v the_o latter_a point_n to_o wit_n the_o prayer_n of_o the_o maid_n that_o it_o be_v but_o a_o fact_n of_o a_o maid_n and_o then_o ask_v whether_o the_o fact_n of_o a_o maid_n be_v a_o statute_n of_o the_o church_n and_o whether_o a_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v to_o be_v ground_v upon_o a_o maid_n act_v i_o have_v sufficient_o answer_v he_o already_o touch_v the_o statute_n 5●_n &_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n concern_v this_o point_n and_o now_o tell_v he_o again_o that_o there_o be_v neither_o at_o that_o time_n any_o need_n of_o statute_n for_o prayer_n to_o saint_n which_o then_o be_v every_o where_o in_o practice_n neither_o i●_n i●_n now_o in_o question_n what_o the_o church_n decree_v then_o touch_v the_o same_o but_o what_o be_v then_o general_o practise_v and_o believe_v which_o can_v be_v better_a and_o more_o clear_o prove_v by_o any_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n then_o by_o such_o as_o witness_v not_o only_o their_o own_o fact_n but_o also_o the_o practice_n of_o other_o christian_n either_o in_o their_o day_n or_o else_o in_o former_a time_n as_o this_o be_v which_o s._n gregory_n affirm_v of_o that_o holy_a maid_n 62._o but_o will_v you_o now_o hear_v how_o well_o m._n andrew_n conclude_v all_o this_o matter_n supra_fw-la forsooth_o he_o make_v a_o objection_n against_o himself_o say_v in_o a_o different_a letter_n as_o if_o the_o objection_n be_v the_o cardinal_n sed_fw-la factum_fw-la non_fw-la reprehenditur_fw-la andrews_n but_o this_o fact_n of_o the_o maid_n be_v not_o reprehend_v by_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n and_o then_o he_o add_v answer_v to_o his_o own_o objection_n immò_fw-la idem_fw-la illud_fw-la etc._n etc._n yea_o but_o epiphanius_n sharp_o reprehend_v the_o self_n same_o in_o the_o same_o age_n in_o the_o collyridian_n heretic_n when_o it_o be_v do_v by_o many_o of_o the_o same_o sex_n thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n play_v his_o part_n kind_o as_o well_o in_o his_o objection_n as_o in_o his_o answer_n for_o in_o his_o objection_n wherein_o he_o will_v seem_v to_o speak_v for_o the_o cardinal_n or_o rather_o to_o lay_v down_o his_o word_n he_o dissemble_v altogether_o what_o the_o cardinal_n say_v to_o urge_v and_o fortify_v that_o example_n of_o the_o maid_n 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o forbear_v purposely_o as_o it_o may_v be_v think_v to_o set_v it_o down_o in_o his_o margin_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o cardinal_n text_n who_o after_o the_o word_n of_o s._n gregory_n before_o relate_v to_o wit_n virginem_fw-la mariam_n rogavit_fw-la etc._n etc._n lady_n she_o beseech_v the_o virgin_n mary_n to_o succour_v a_o virgin_n in_o danger_n add_v immediate_o ac_fw-la paulo_fw-la pòst_fw-la refert_fw-la eam_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o nazianzen_n declare_v that_o her_o prayer_n be_v hear_v vicit_fw-la inquit_fw-la virgo_fw-la vincitur_fw-la daemon_n the_o virgin_n say_v he_o overcome_v and_o the_o devil_n be_v overcome_v thus_o do_v the_o cardinal_n urge_v this_o example_n which_o as_o you_o see_v be_v of_o much_o more_o force_n then_o to_o say_v only_o as_o m._n andrews_n say_v that_o s._n gregory_n do_v not_o reprehend_v the_o fact_n 63._o for_o albeit_o his_o silence_n in_o not_o reprehend_v it_o may_v serve_v for_o a_o argument_n that_o he_o do_v not_o mislike_v it_o yet_o the_o other_o clear_o prove_v that_o not_o only_o he_o but_o also_o god_n himself_o do_v notable_o approve_v it_o see_v he_o say_v that_o she_o obtain_v the_o effect_n of_o her_o prayer_n and_o overcome_v the_o devil_n whereto_o i_o also_o add_v that_o when_o that_o holy_a father_n begin_v to_o recount_v the_o history_n of_o the_o maid_n supra_fw-la he_o say_v thus_o audite_fw-la virgin_n ac_fw-la simul_fw-la exultate_fw-la etc._n etc._n harken_v o_fw-fr you_o virgin_n and_o rejoice_v also_o yea_o all_o you_o that_o esteem_v chastity_n in_o matrimony_n and_o love_v virgin_n give_v ear_n for_o to_o both_o sort_n this_o my_o narratio_fw-la may_v serve_v for_o a_o ornament_n so_o he_o whereby_o it_o appear_v plain_o that_o he_o mean_v to_o recount_v that_o which_o he_o will_v wish_v to_o be_v approve_v and_o imitate_v by_o other_o whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o by_o this_o example_n he_o exhort_v and_o encourage_v all_o those_o who_o chastity_n shall_v be_v endanger_v to_o crave_v the_o help_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n as_o that_o holy_a maid_n do_v who_o thereby_o together_o with_o her_o other_o devotion_n of_o fast_v and_o prayer_n to_o almighty_a god_n which_o s._n gregory_n relate_v overcome_v the_o devil_n and_o escape_v the_o danger_n of_o his_o tentation_n and_o can_v this_o holy_a father_n more_o evident_o declare_v what_o his_o faith_n and_o belief_n be_v concern_v prayer_n to_o saint_n than_o not_o only_o to_o relate_v this_o fact_n of_o a_o holy_a virgin_n without_o reprehension_n of_o it_o but_o also_o to_o signify_v the_o happy_a event_n and_o success_n thereof_o yea_o and_o to_o incyte_v other_o to_o the_o approbation_n andrew_n and_o imitation_n of_o it_o 64._o but_o now_o say_v m._n andrew_n although_o nazianzen_n do_v not_o reprehend_v it●_n yet_o epiphanius_n do_v sharp_o reprove_v idem_fw-la illud_fw-la even_o the_o self_n same_o fact_n in_o the_o same_o age_n in_o other_o woman_n if_o this_o be_v true_a m._n andrews_n do_v indeed_o say_v somewhat_o to_o the_o purpose_n at_o least_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o father_n of_o that_o age_n do_v not_o with_o unanim_fw-la consent_n allow_v prayer_n to_o saint_n but_o if_o it_o be_v false_a and_o that_o he_o flat_o belie_v s._n epiphanius_n collyrid●an●_n what_o shall_v we_o think_v of_o the_o man_n conscience_n and_o cause_n the_o truth_n be_v s._n epiphanius_n sharp_o reprehend_v certain_a woman_n who_o use_v at_o a_o certain_a time_n of_o the_o year_n to_o commit_v idolatry_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n dianis_fw-la adore_v she_o with_o divine_a honour_n offer_v unto_o her_o certain_a cake_n in_o sacrifice_n as_o though_o she_o have_v be_v a_o god_n or_o a_o goddess_n and_o they_o her_o priest_n whereupon_o he_o discourse_v ample_o prove_v first_o out_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n that_o nusquam_fw-la mulier_fw-la sacrificavit_fw-la aut_fw-la sacerdotio_fw-la functa_fw-la est_fw-la woman_n have_v never_o sacrifyce_v anywhere_o or_o execute_v priestly_a function_n and_o then_o he_o come_v to_o the_o new_a testament_n where_o he_o show_v also_o the_o same_o and_o add_v further_a that_o if_o woman_n can_v ever_o have_v be_v admit_v to_o sacrifice_n the_o virgin_n mary_n herself_o shall_v have_v do_v it_o rather_o than_o any_o other_o nevertheless_o she_o never_o do_v and_o final_o he_o conclude_v that_o the_o body_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n mary_n be_v revera_fw-la sanctum_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la deus_fw-la true_o holy_a but_o not_o god_n 65._o by_o all_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o these_o woman_n which_o epiphanius_n reprehend_v do_v not_o only_o take_v upon_o they_o the_o priestly_a function_n but_o also_o commit_v flat_a idolatry_n adore_v the_o virgin_n mary_n with_o divine_a honour_n offer_v sacrifice_n unto_o she_o which_o be_v a_o worship_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o now_o then_o can_v a_o man_n believe_v that_o m._n andrew_n reputation_n or_o any_o man_n else_o that_o have_v care_n of_o his_o reputation_n will_v be_v so_o shameless_a to_o say_v that_o this_o be_v idem_fw-la illud_fw-la that_o very_a self_n same_o thing_n which_o nazianzen_n say_v that_o holy_a virgin_n do_v who_o only_o crave_v help_v of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n be_v there_o no_o difference_n betwixt_o pray_v and_o sacrifyse_v betwixt_o idolatry_n and_o religious_a veneration_n due_a to_o god_n saint_n himself_o and_o servant_n or_o betwixt_o the_o usurpation_n of_o priestly_a function_n
confusion_n that_o they_o themselves_o be_v witness_n of_o the_o miraculous_a event_n and_o help_v he_o to_o take_v the_o fish_n which_o he_o sell_v for_o 300._o folles_fw-la beside_o the_o ring_n that_o be_v find_v in_o his_o belly_n 97._o three_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o s._n augustine_n high_o approve_v the_o invocation_n of_o the_o 20._o martyr_n see_v that_o he_o recount_v this_o together_o with_o many_o other_o miracle_n to_o prove_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n say_v in_o the_o end_n for_o the_o conclusion_n of_o the_o whole_a cui_fw-la nisi_fw-la huic_fw-la fidei_fw-la attesta●tur_fw-la ista_fw-la miracula_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o what_o other_o faith_n do_v these_o miracle_n give_v testimony●_n but_o to_o this_o whereby_o christ_n be_v preach_v to_o have_v ascend_v into_o heaven_n with_o his_o flesh_n for_o these_o martyr_n be_v martyr_n that_o be_v to_o say_v witness_n of_o this_o faith_n etc._n etc._n for_o in_o this_o faith_n they_o die_v who_o can_v obtain_v these_o thing_n of_o god_n for_o who_o name_n they_o be_v slay_v so_o he_o 68_o now_o then_o that_o which_o i_o wish_v thou_o good_a reader_n to_o note_v in_o all_o this_o discourse_n saint_n be_v how_o well_o m._n andrews_n have_v perform_v his_o vaunt_n which_o be_v that_o he_o will_v with_o one_o only_a sentence_n as_o with_o the_o sun_n dry_v up_o whatsoever_o can_v be_v object_v out_o of_o any_o little_a brook_n of_o augustine_n when_o nevertheless_o his_o hot_a sunny_a sentence_n have_v prove_v no_o warm_a nor_o bright_a than_o the_o moon_n in_o the_o wain_n and_o change_v which_o have_v neither_o heat_n nor_o light_n for_o so_o you_o see_v it_o have_v fall_v out_o with_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o he_o out_o of_o s._n augustine_n which_o prove_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o his_o purpose_n whereas_o the_o other_o testimony_n allege_v partly_o by_o the_o cardinal_n and_o partly_o by_o i_o be_v as_o you_o have_v also_o see_v most_o evident_a and_o pregnant_a to_o prove_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n which_o m._n andrews_n have_v hitherto_o impugn_a 69._o if_o then_o we_o consider_v the_o conformity_n of_o s._n augustine_n in_o this_o point_n withal_o the_o other_o father_n who_o place_n have_v be_v before_o produce_v to_o wit_n s._n basil_n eusebius_n s._n chrysostome_n s._n ephrem_n s._n maximus_n s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n s._n gregory_n nyssen_n s._n ambrose_n s._n hierome_n ruffinus_n s._n paulinus_n and_o theodoret_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o their_o consent_n and_o uniform_a testimony_n may_v suffice_v in_o the_o opinion_n of_o any_o reasonable_a man_n to_o show_v that_o the_o universal_a custom_n practice_n and_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n in_o their_o age_n be_v the_o same_o that_o now_o be_v concern_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n notwithstanding_o all_o the_o wrangle_a trifle_a shift_n evasion_n collusion_n and_o fraud_n which_o you_o see_v m._n andrews_n have_v use_v to_o obscure_v the_o evident_a and_o manifest_a verity_n thereof_o so_o as_o i_o may_v here_o very_o well_o end_v this_o matter_n be_v it_o not_o that_o m._n andrews_n in_o the_o preamble_n to_o his_o censure_n upon_o the_o place_n of_o the_o father_n make_v some_o objection_n not_o hitherto_o answer_v by_o i_o which_o by_o all_o likelihood_n not_o only_o he_o but_o also_o those_o that_o have_v read_v he_o will_v expect_v shall_v be_v some_o way_n satisfy_v and_o therefore_o i_o mean_v to_o examine_v the_o validity_n thereof_o with_o what_o brevity_n i_o convenient_o may_v certain_a objection_n of_o m._n andrews_n against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n be_v answer_v and_o by_o the_o way_n a_o imposture_n of_o the_o pretend_a bishop_n and_o clergy_n of_o the_o province_n of_o canterbury_n in_o a_o synodical_a canon_n of_o they_o be_v discover_v and_o final_o m._n andrews_n be_v prove_v to_o have_v notable_o wrangle_v juggle_v and_o tryfle_v throughout_o this_o whole_a controversy_n chap._n viii_o among_o diverse_a frivolous_a objection_n there_o 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some_o man_n do_v then_o give_v counsel_n &_o think_v it_o necessary_a to_o procure_v the_o favour_n of_o god_n by_o angel_n thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n use_v no_o less_o fraud_n than_o he_o be_v wont_a as_o well_o touch_v theodoret_n as_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n 2._o and_o first_o for_o theodoret_n andrews_n he_o abuse_v he_o notable_o allege_v some_o part_n of_o his_o word_n and_o leave_v out_o that_o which_o will_v clear_o explicate_v the_o whole_a matter_n and_o theodoret_n meaning_n who_o interpret_n the_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n to_o the_o colossenses_n nemo_fw-la vos_fw-la seducat_fw-la volens_fw-la in_o humilitate_fw-la &_o religione_fw-la angelorum_fw-la 2._o let_v no_o man_n seduce_v you_o will_v in_o the_o humility_n and_o religion_n of_o angel_n declare_v that_o certain_a heretic_n in_o phrygia_n and_o pisidia_n defend_v the_o use_n of_o the_o old_a law_n coloss●n_n induce_v man_n to_o the_o worship_n of_o angel_n and_o after_o a_o while_n lay_v down_o the_o reason_n which_o they_o use_v to_o that_o end_n say_v illi_fw-la ergo_fw-la consulebant_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o they_o counsel_v this_o under_o pretence_n of_o humility_n say_v that_o man_n can_v see_v nor_o comprehend_v almighty_a god_n nor_o come_v unto_o he_o and_o that_o they_o must_v procure_v to_o themselves_o god_n favour_n by_o angel_n thus_o say_v theodoret_n whereof_o you_o see_v m._n andrew_n lay_v down_o only_a the_o last_o word_n to_o wit_n putabant_fw-la oportere_fw-la sibi_fw-la divinam_fw-la benevolentiam_fw-la conciliare_fw-la etc._n etc._n they_o think_v they_o must_v procure_v to_o themselves_o the_o divine_a favour_n by_o angel_n whereas_o the_o word_n immediate_o go_v before_o which_o he_o leave_v out_o give_v the_o reason_n of_o this_o their_o error_n signify_v that_o they_o think_v it_o necessary_a to_o procure_v god_n favour_n by_o angel_n because_o man_n can_v not_o come_v to_o he_o otherwise_o which_o be_v far_o from_o the_o conceit_n of_o any_o catholic_a or_o christian_a man_n see_v that_o this_o opinion_n deny_v that_o we_o may_v come_v to_o god_n by_o christ_n and_o make_v angel_n the_o only_a mediator_n betwixt_o god_n and_o we_o which_o be_v in_o effect_n to_o deny_v and_o destroy_v the_o christian_a faith_n 3._o and_o therefore_o no_o marvel_n if_o saint_n paul_n the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n and_o theodoret_n forbid_v such_o prayer_n to_o angel_n but_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o the_o canon_n which_o theodoret_n mention_v forbid_v only_a to_o commit_v idolatry_n to_o angel_n and_o not_o simple_o to_o pray_v to_o they_o as_o i_o will_v make_v it_o manifest_a when_o i_o shall_v have_v first_o declare_v how_o m._n andrews_n have_v abuse_v the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n laodicea_n therefore_o have_v say_v that_o the_o canon_n of_o that_o council_n be_v twice_o relate_v by_o theodoret_n in_o his_o comment_n upon_o the_o second_o and_o thyrd_o to_o the_o colossenses_n he_o add_v prohibent_fw-la ibi_fw-la disertis_fw-la verbis_fw-la ne_fw-la quis_fw-la precetur_fw-la angelos_n the_o father_n of_o that_o council_n do_v there_o forbid_v in_o express_a word_n neque_fw-la that_o no_o man_n pray_v to_o angel_n so_o he_o whereby_o the_o reader_n must_v needs_o imagine_v not_o only_o that_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n be_v full_o lay_v down_o by_o theodoret_n but_o also_o that_o the_o same_o be_v to_o no_o other_o effect_n they_o but_o only_o to_o ordain_v that_o no_o man_n shall_v pray_v to_o angel_n whereas_o theodoret_n do_v not_o allege_v any_o one_o word_n of_o the_o canon_n but_o touch_v only_o the_o effect_n of_o it_o in_o some_o sort_n and_o in_o very_o general_a term_n for_o the_o canon_n itself_o make_v no_o mention_n at_o all_o of_o prayer_n but_o forbid_v only_o a_o idolatrous_a worship_n of_o angel_n which_o also_o theodoret_n show_v to_o be_v his_o own_o meaning_n though_o he_o speak_v only_o of_o prayer_n to_o angel_n as_o it_o be_v evident_a both_o by_o the_o circumstance_n of_o
the_o verity_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n say_v si●e_fw-la deus_fw-la per_fw-la seipsum_fw-la miro_fw-la modo_fw-la etc._n etc._n whether_o god_n do_v work_v these_o thing_n by_o himself_o in_o that_o marvellous_a manner_n ●_o whereby_o he_o work_v temporal_a thing_n be_v himself_o eternal_a or_o whether_o he_o do_v the_o self_n same_o thing_n by_o his_o minister_n or_o whether_o he_o do_v some_o of_o they_o by_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o martyr_n as_o he_o do_v by_o man_n while_o they_o be_v yet_o here_o in_o body_n or_o all_o by_o angel_n who_o he_o command_v invisible_o immutable_o and_o without_o a_o body_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o martyr_n be_v do_v only_o by_o their_o prayer_n and_o impetration_n &_o not_o also_o by_o their_o operation_n or_o whether_o some_o thing_n be_v do_v by_o these_o mean_n &_o some_o by_o other_o which_o can_v by_o any_o mean_n be_v comprehend_v by_o mortal_a man_n ei_fw-la profectò_fw-la haec_fw-la attestantur_fw-la fidei_fw-la etc._n etc._n all_o these_o true_o do_v give_v testimony_n to_o that_o faith_n wherein_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v preach_v 16._o thus_o discourse_v this_o holy_a father_n acknowledge_v as_o you_o see_v the_o imbecility_n of_o man_n understanding_n to_o comprehend_v the_o manner_n how_o almighty_a god_n do_v work_v these_o supernatural_a effect_n although_o he_o doubt_v not_o of_o the_o effect_n of_o themselves_o elsewhere_o and_o yet_o forsooth_o m._n andrews_n must_v either_o know_v how_o saint_n do_v hear_v we_o or_o else_o he_o will_v deny_v that_o they_o hear_v we_o notwithstanding_o the_o know_a and_o common_a experience_n that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v always_o have_v thereof_o to_o which_o purpose_n also_o it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o he_o confess_v himself_o ver●●_n elsewhere_o that_o god_n be_v wont_n miraculous_o to_o relieve_v those_o that_o pray_v at_o the_o tomb_n of_o martyr_n and_o yet_o i_o be_o 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not_o sear_a enough_o to_o our_o sel●es_n found_v it_o will_v 〈◊〉_d import_n though_o it_o 〈…〉_z see_v that_o we_o do_v not_o thereon_o ground_v our_o doctrine_n that_o saint_n hear_v or_o know_v ou●_n prayer_n 〈…〉_z the_o custom_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n which_o pray_v to_o saint_n 〈◊〉_d therefore_o believe_v that_o they_o hear_v we_o and_o partly_o upon_o evident_a experience_n of_o the_o benefit_n that_o by_o god_n merciful_a providence_n and_o ordinance_n man_n do_v receive_v by_o they_o and_o partly_o also_o upon_o the_o conformity_n thereof_o to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o teach_v not_o only_o that_o the_o angel●_n in_o heaven_n do_v rejoice_v at_o the_o repentance_n of_o sinner_n which_o they_o can_v not_o do_v if_o they_o do_v not_o knee●_n 1●_n it_o but_o also_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a be_v glorify_v 〈◊〉_d aequales_fw-la angelis_n 20._o equal_a to_o angel_n and_o consequent_o have_v the_o like_a knowledge_n that_o they_o have_v beside_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o the_o prophet_n of_o god_n do_v see_v the_o heart_n and_o thought_n of_o man_n 9_o and_o know_v thing_n far_o distant_a from_o them●_n samuel_n tell_v unto_o saul_n all_o that_o he_o have_v in_o his_o hart_n 5._o and_o eliz●●s_n be_v absent_a see_v hi●_n servant_n g●●zi_n take_v gift_n of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o syrians_n and_o discover_v also_o all_o that_o which_o the_o king_n of_o syria_n treat_v in_o his_o cabinet_n 7._o also_o s._n steven_n be_v on_o earth_n do_v see_v our_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n on_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o his_o father_n in_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v absurd_a to_o imagine_v that_o the_o glorify_a saint_n in_o heaven_n can_v not_o see_v or_o know_v what_o be_v do_v on_o earth_n especial_o such_o thing_n as_o concern_v themselves_o and_o the_o honour_n that_o be_v do_v unto_o they_o for_o god_n great_a glory_n and_o the_o prayer_n that_o be_v direct_v to_o they_o for_o the_o relief_n of_o god_n servant_n last_o s._n john_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n signify_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n do_v offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n ●●_o which_o they_o can_v not_o do_v if_o they_o do_v not_o understand_v and_o know_v man_n prayer_n 18._o furthermore_o this_o doctrine_n be_v also_o ground_v upon_o the_o clear_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n who_o teach_v it_o express_o 11._o as_o s._n athanasius_n who_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o saint_n earth_n &_o post_fw-la mortem_fw-la &_o in_o die_v judicij_fw-la cognoscent_fw-la omne_fw-la shall_v know_v all_o thing_n both_o after_o their_o death_n and_o in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o nullus_fw-la est_fw-la say_v s._n basil_n ex_fw-la hijs_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la singula_fw-la ubique_fw-la consideret_fw-la there_o be_v none_o of_o these_o he_o speak_v of_o angel_n and_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a who_o do_v not_o consider_v every_o thing_n every_o where_o beside_o that_o he_o call_v the_o 40._o martyr_n commune_v humani_fw-la generis_fw-la custodes_fw-la the_o common_a guardian_n or_o keeper_n of_o humane_a kind_n medium_n s._n ambrose_n also_o say_v that_o martyr_n be_v prae●ules_n &_o spectatores_fw-la actuum_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la the_o governors_n and_o beholder_n of_o our_o action_n 19_o in_o like_o manner_n s._n hierom●_n teach_v ●●_z that_o it_o be_v write_v of_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n si_fw-la quuntur_fw-la agnum_fw-la quocumque_fw-la ierit_fw-la they_o follow_v the_o lamb_n wheresoever_o he_o goethe_v and_o then_o he_o add_v si_fw-la agnu●_fw-la ubique_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o the_o lamb_n ●e_v every_o be_v therefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v that_o those_o also_o who_o be_v with_o the_o lamb_n be_v every_o where_o and_o see_v that_o devil_n go_v all_o the_o world_n over_o and_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o exceed_a great_a celerity_n be_v every_o where_o present_a shall_v martyr_n after_o they_o have_v shed_v their_o blood_n for_o christ_n be_v shut_v up_o as_o it_o be_v in_o a_o coffer_n that_o they_o can_v get_v out_o so_o he_o theodoret_n also_o give_v to_o martyr_n the_o title_n of_o deuce_n principes_fw-la propugnatores_fw-la &_o custodes_fw-la hominum_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o captayn_n the_o prince_n 8._o the_o defender_n and_o guardian_n of_o man_n by_o who_o say_v he_o those_o mischief_n and_o misery_n which_o devil_n do_v inflict_v upon_o we_o be_v avert_v from_o us._n s._n chrysostome_n call_v s._n peter_n corinth_n and_o s._n paul_n and_o patron_n and_o protector_n of_o the_o emperor_n whereupon_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o those_o bless_a apostle_n and_o other_o saint_n do_v understand_v the_o action_n and_o necessity_n of_o those_o who_o they_o protect_v and_o defend_v ●●_o 20._o moreover_o s._n augustine_n discourse_v how_o the_o saint_n shall_v see_v god_n in_o heaven_n after_o the_o resurrection_n and_o whether_o they_o shall_v see_v he_o with_o their_o corporal_a eye_n teach_v by_o the_o way_n that_o they_o shall_v then_o see_v all_o thing_n with_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o spirit_n etiam_fw-la unde_fw-la sunt_fw-la corpore_fw-la absentes_fw-la even_o whence_o they_o be_v absent_a in_o body_n and_o this_o he_o prove_v ample_o by_o the_o example_n of_o elizaeus_n who_o be_v absent_a from_o his_o servant_n giezi_n see_v he_o take_v gift_n of_o naaman_n ●_o and_o therefore_o say_v unto_o he_o nun_n cor_fw-la meum_fw-la in_o praesenti_fw-la erat_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v not_o my_o hart_n present_a with_o thou_o when_o the_o man_n come_v from_o his_o chariot_n to_o meet_v thou_o and_o thou_o take_v the_o money_n whereupon_o s._n augustine_n say_v cord_n svo_fw-la ergo_fw-la se_fw-la dixit_fw-la hoc_fw-la vidisse_fw-la propheta_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o prophet_n say_v that_o he_o see_v this_o with_o his_o hart_n be_v no_o doubt_n admirable_o help_v by_o almighty_a god_n but_o how_o much_o
devotion_n of_o the_o people_n by_o the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n through_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o martyr_n or_o else_o whether_o it_o be_v do_v both_o way_n this_o he_o say_v he_o dare_v not_o define_v confess_v and_o teach_v evident_o as_o much_o as_o we_o require_v in_o this_o matter_n to_o wit_n that_o devout_a people_n be_v certain_o help_v by_o the_o martyr_n neither_o be_v it_o to_o be_v wonder_v that_o s._n augustine_n will_v not_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o determine_v how_o the_o same_o be_v wrought_v say_v that_o even_o in_o ordinary_a and_o natural_a thing_n the_o effect_n be_v evident_a and_o certain_a and_o yet_o the_o cause_n be_v many_o time_n either_o uncertayn_a or_o else_o whole_o unknown_a which_o be_v to_o be_v grant_v much_o more_o in_o supernatural_a and_o miraculous_a event_n 12.13.14.15.16_o as_o i_o have_v show_v evident_o in_o the_o last_o chapter_n where_o i_o have_v confute_v such_o another_o ridiculous_a argument_n of_o he_o against_o prayer_n to_o saint_n 44._o and_o albeit_o he_o have_v resolve_v that_o the_o saint_n themselves_o do_v not_o appear_v or_o assist_v at_o their_o tomb_n but_o angel_n in_o their_o shape_n and_o likeness_n yet_o it_o can_v not_o be_v say_v but_o that_o apparition_n be_v they_o be_v make_v by_o god_n express_a ordinance_n for_o their_o merit_n in_o their_o name_n and_o likeness_n and_o for_o the_o benefit_n of_o those_o that_o expect_v and_o crave_v their_o help_n especial_o see_v it_o be_v usual_o say_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o god_n speak_v and_o appear_v to_o 18._o abraham_n and_o moses_n 3._o when_o nevertheless_o it_o be_v do_v by_o the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n and_o not_o in_o any_o shape_n that_o can_v represent_v he_o and_o therefore_o s._n augustin●_n have_v great_a reason_n to_o say_v that_o s._n felix_n appear_v and_o that_o the_o martyr_n per_fw-la divinam_fw-la potentiam_fw-la vivorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la intersunt_fw-la be_v by_o the_o divine_a power_n present_a at_o the_o do_n or_o 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