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A62870	Præcursor, or, A forerunner to a large review of the dispute concerning infant-baptism wherein many things both doctrinall and personal are cleared, about which Mr. Richard Baxter, in a book mock-titled Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism hath darkned the truth / by John Tomes.	Tombes, John, 1603?-1676.	1652 (1652)	Wing T1812; ESTC R27540	101,567	110

overthrew baptism of little ones yet he brought it not into publique because as Guitmund saies He knew That the eares of the worst men would not brook that blasphemy I also related a speech of the same Cassander concerning the Albigenses besides which in my Exercitation I alleadged the words of Lucas Osiander accusing the Albigenses as agreeing with Anabaptists And to shew that there was some reason for what I averred to wit that there were others that made head against infant-baptisme before Baltasar Pacimontanus I alleadged Bernard Serm. 66. in Cantica Epis. 240. to Hildefonsus Earle of St. Giles Petrus Cluniacensis his Epistle to three Bishops of France and in my Antidote sect 9. Eckbertus Schovangiensis his seventh Sermon adversus Catharos in Auctario Biblioth Patrum tom 2. Against these allegations Mr. M. excepts and Mr. B. le ts flie at me as before neither deny that I rightly cite the Authors But 1. That the Authors were lying Papists 2. That no impartial Authors so charge them 3. That they did bely them in other things 4 That upon report these with other things were charged on them 5. That the Councels charge them not with this 6. That other Historians charge not the Waldenses 7. That their confessions acquit them 8. That I do but joine with malicious Papists to take up any the falsest slander to defend my cause by it For answer hereto I will not return railing for railing but this I say and leave it to indifferent men if there be any to judge between us whether of us be in the right Cassander was never accounted that I ever read one of those railing lying Papists Mr. B. mentions but as impartial a man as any Papist living in his time Maximilian the second Emperour who favoured Protestants more then any Emperour prized him His study was reconciliation and a middle way which Mr. B. professeth to be his Mr. B. page 261. saith He spake the best of all parties that he might displease none Bernard is by Mr. B. himself page 265. stiled a pious man Petrus Cluniacensis was though a zealous Papist yet thought fit by Illyricus to be reckoned among Witnesses of Truth in his Catalogue They are as impartial Authors specially Bernard as that age yielded if these be not taken for witnesses of things in their times I know not how Protestants will make up their Catalogue of witnesses for them in all ages Protestant writers do frequently alledge these very Authors for other things Mornay in his Mysterie of Iniquity progress 46. cites these very writings against Papists I conceive Mr. M. Mr. B. think they said true when Bernard charged them that they derided prayer for the dead invocation of Saints Purgatory and Cluniacensis that they excepted against Altars adoring of Crosses the Masse chanting inquires praying for the dead If they be to be believed in so many why not in this which they put first Lucas Osiander Epit. Hist. Eccl. Cent. 12. lib. 3. cap. 3. anno Christi 1158. cites Cluniacensis for the same thing Eckbertus saith when he was Canou at Bon he with his Companion Bertoly did often speak with them whom he refutes sayes in his Sermon that they alleadged against Infant-baptisme Mat. 28. 19. Mark 16. 15 16. Though I make no question but that they bely them at least some of them in other things some upon report as Cluniacansis that they denyed some of the Scripture it may be saith Osiaander because they denyed the Apocryphal writings or perhaps because they denied arguments valid from the rites of the old Testament some upon false inferences which is a frequent thing in writers to make the consequences they gather from their writings the tenets of the Authors they impugne some it may be out of that abuse of charging those tenets and practises upon all of the same profession which is too true of some as that all Christians did lewd practises because the Gnosticks did so that all Anabaptists are wicked because those of Munster Copp and some others proved so in which way Mr. B. walkes page 138. c. for which the Lord forgive him yet it seemes utterly unlikely to me that in this Petrus de Bruis and Henricus and their followers should be belied when so many of chief account in their time from several places charge them with denying infant-baptisme and rebaptizing Petrus Cluniacensis writes to 3. Bishops of France and Bernard to the Earle of St. Gyles of purpose against them for this reason Bernard and Cluniacensiis put it for their prime error Petrus Cluniacensis and Eckbertus produce and take on them to answer their allegations against infant-baptisme but not so as I remember any allegations against the Scriptures or Marriage which they charge them to deny and therefore it 's likely they wrong them in these not in that As for the Albigenses and Waldenses it might be true that some might be against Infant-baptisme yet others not some following Peter de Bruis others Waldus as it was in the reformation when some followed Luther others Zwinglius in the points of the Eucharist Images c. or it may be that they all at the beginning held so but after left it which seemes to be the conceit of Cassander ubi suprà And yet in the old book wherein their doctrince is cited by Illyricus in his Catalog test verit printed Argentinae 1562. pag. 3 4. there are some speeches which Illyricus is faine by glosses to free from the opinion of Antipaedobaptisme But whether the Waldenses were Antipaedopatists or no what I did alleadge was rightly done not with a brazen face or seared conscience or out of a desire to take up any slaunder or joine with any party to defend my cause as Mr. B. doth most unbrotherly insinuate yea in my Examen part 2. sect 2. before I cite Bernard and Cluniacensis I have these words Now although he charge them with denying marriage abstaning from meates yet you may smell out of his own words that this was but a calumny but because by the reasons given I am induced to conceive notwithstanding Mr. Ms. and Mr. Bs. allegations that Peter de Bruis and Henricus and other godly persons and societies were 500. yeares ago Antipaedobaptists yea I conceive as good a catalogue of Antipaedobaptists may be made almost in all ages as may be made for Protestants against many Popish corruptions and better then Antiprelatists can make against Episcopacy And this I dare still to do and marvel Mr. B. dare bring such railing accusation to which I onely returne The Lord rebuke him The other untruth if not malice Mr. B. chargeth me with is concerning my dealing with himself when I had in my Valedictory Sermon and Antidote shewed how impertinently the 2. monsters in New England were brought as evidences of Gods judgements against Anabaptists I added in my Sermon one of the errors condemned in New England is the 21. To be justified by faith is to be justified by works