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A66243 A plain defence of the Protestant religion, fitted to the meanest capacity being a full confutation of the net for the fishers of men, published by two gentlemen lately gone over to the Church of Rome. Wherein is evidently made appear, that their departure from the Protestant religion was without cause of reason. Written for publick good by L. E. a son of the Church of England, as by law established. L. Ė.; Wake, William, 1657-1737, attributed name. 1687 (1687) Wing W251A; ESTC R221936 36,083 64

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a_o evidence_n of_o the_o church_n sanctity_n but_o be_v indeed_o a_o mere_a invention_n of_o man_n but_o our_o sanctity_n we_o will_v prove_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n because_o we_o teach_v the_o same_o doctrine_n which_o that_o contain_v pa._n 32._o luther_n and_o calvin_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o reformer_n confirm_v their_o doctrine_n with_o miracle_n or_o they_o do_v not_o pro._n what_o if_o they_o do_v not_o pa._n if_o they_o do_v not_o they_o be_v not_o true_a apostle_n pro._n the_o doctrine_n they_o preach_v be_v not_o they_o but_o that_o which_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n teach_v and_o confirm_v by_o miracle_n so_o that_o it_o need_v no_o more_o confirmation_n except_o we_o have_v receive_v it_o upon_o their_o authority_n which_o we_o do_v not_o we_o acknowledge_v they_o be_v not_o apostle_n as_o the_o twelve_o be_v and_o therefore_o no_o need_n of_o their_o work_a miracle_n pa._n 33._o the_o sign_n which_o christ_n say_v in_o scripture_n follow_v your_o 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than_o what_o they_o be_v in_o duty_n bind_v to_o do_v and_o therefore_o be_v holy_a man_n for_o all_o that_o pa._n 35._o the_o catholic_n roman_n church_n and_o no_o other_o stand_v firm_a and_o infallible_a against_o all_o the_o tempest_n of_o apostasy_n heresy_n and_o schism_n pro._n the_o roman_a church_n be_v not_o firm_a nor_o infallible_a but_o as_o to_o the_o visible_a part_n of_o it_o be_v fall_v both_o by_o apostasy_n heresy_n and_o schism_n pa._n 36._o the_o roman_n have_v once_o the_o true_a church_n or_o they_o have_v not_o pro._n the_o question_n be_v ambiguous_a if_o you_o mean_v by_o it_o that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o true_a church_n as_o the_o mother_n of_o all_o other_o i_o deny_v it_o if_o you_o mean_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o have_v the_o true_a faith_n i_o answer_v that_o she_o have_v the_o true_a faith._n pa._n if_o the_o roman_n have_v the_o true_a faith_n they_o retain_v the_o same_o still_o infallible_o or_o do_v not_o pro._n they_o do_v not_o pa._n 37._o if_o they_o do_v not_o than_o they_o must_v have_v their_o fall_n either_o by_o apostasy_n heresy_n or_o schism_n pro._n she_o have_v fall_v by_o they_o all_o pa._n the_o ancient_n apostolic_a catholic_n roman_a church_n fall_v by_o apostasy_n or_o it_o do_v not_o pro._n the_o ancient_n apostolic_a catholic_n church_n fall_v not_o at_o all_o nay_o the_o ancient_a roman_a church_n fall_v not_o but_o the_o present_a roman_a church_n be_v fall_v pa._n if_o she_o be_v fall_v by_o apostasy_n what_o prudent_a man_n will_v say_v that_o she_o ever_o renounce_v the_o sweet_a name_n of_o jesus_n which_o she_o ever_o have_v in_o so_o great_a veneration_n pro._n she_o may_v have_v fall_v by_o apostasy_n and_o yet_o not_o have_v renounce_v the_o name_n of_o jesus_n so_o that_o her_o have_v it_o in_o so_o great_a veneration_n be_v no_o argument_n that_o she_o be_v not_o fall_v by_o apostasy_n pa._n 38._o the_o roman_a church_n fall_v by_o heresy_n or_o she_o do_v not_o pro._n she_o do_v pa._n if_o she_o do_v by_o what_o general_n council_n be_v she_o ever_o condemn_v which_o of_o the_o father_n ever_o write_v against_o she_o or_o by_o what_o authority_n be_v she_o otherwise_o reprove_v pro._n if_o nothing_o be_v a_o heresy_n but_o what_o a_o general_a council_n condemn_v than_o those_o heresy_n which_o spring_v up_o in_o the_o first_o three_o hundred_o year_n be_v wrongful_o esteem_v such_o in_o those_o time_n see_v there_o be_v then_o no_o general_n council_n if_o a_o doctrine_n may_v be_v heretical_a which_o be_v never_o condemn_v by_o a_o general_a council_n than_o the_o dostrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v be_v heretical_a though_o never_o condemn_v by_o a_o general_n council_n so_o that_o question_n do_v not_o vindicate_v she_o from_o be_v guilty_a of_o heresy_n pa._n but_o which_o of_o the_o father_n ever_o write_v against_o she_o pro._n all_o the_o ancient_a father_n disclaim_v those_o doctrine_n which_o the_o 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pro._n she_o do_v pa._n if_o she_o do_v who_o company_n do_v she_o leave_v from_o what_o body_n do_v she_o go_v forth_o where_o be_v the_o true_a church_n she_o forsake_v pro._n she_o forsake_v the_o primitive_a church_n the_o eastern_a church_n and_o all_o those_o christian_n who_o always_o maintain_v their_o freedom_n from_o the_o roman_a yoke_n pa._n 40._o the_o true_a holy_a apostolic_a catholic_n church_n be_v fallible_a and_o can_v err_v or_o it_o can_v pro._n remember_v by_o the_o church_n i_o mean_v the_o faithful_a throughout_o the_o world_n and_o of_o these_o i_o say_v they_o all_o can_v err_v in_o any_o point_n of_o faith._n pa._n why_o do_v you_o then_o false_o condemn_v she_o pro._n we_o do_v not_o condemn_v she_o we_o be_v part_n of_o she_o but_o for_o the_o roman_a church_n we_o condemn_v she_o pa._n 41._o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v infallible_a in_o all_o her_o proposal_n and_o definition_n of_o faith_n or_o she_o be_v not_o pro._n all_o definition_n make_v by_o 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