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A15082 A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of DivĀ· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit* White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 25382; ESTC S122241 841,497 706

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therefore_o depend_v upon_o their_o office_n do_v also_o cease_v now_o i_o subsume_v to_o pray_v for_o people_n distinct_o and_o in_o particular_a depend_v upon_o the_o call_n and_o office_n of_o man_n while_o they_o be_v live_v but_o when_o they_o be_v defunct_a this_o call_n and_o office_n cease_v or_o if_o they_o deny_v this_o let_v the_o adversary_n prove_v the_o contrary_a by_o divine_a revelation_n therefore_o although_o abraham_n and_o job_n pray_v for_o abimelech_n and_o eliphas_n etc._n etc._n while_o abraham_n and_o job_n live_v and_o although_o abimelech_n and_o the_o rest_n must_v by_o god_n precept_n be_v holpen_v by_o their_o prayer_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o from_o hence_o that_o the_o live_a ought_v to_o make_v intercession_n to_o the_o saint_n decease_v very_o he_o that_o read_v this_o section_n of_o the_o jesuit_n may_v well_o wonder_v and_o ask_v whether_o such_o discoursor_n ever_o believe_v or_o hear_v that_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v incarnate_a that_o he_o 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