to_o what_o these_o testimony_n seem_v to_o speak_v nor_o do_v he_o there_o say_v as_o our_o author_n cite_v he_o baptism_n alone_o may_v suffice_v to_o the_o salvation_n of_o infant_n indeed_o one_o of_o the_o place_n tell_v we_o that_o there_o be_v full_a remission_n of_o sin_n in_o baptism_n and_o consequent_o if_o the_o person_n baptise_a shall_v instant_o depart_v this_o life_n si_fw-la continuo_fw-la consequatur_fw-la ab_fw-la hac_fw-la vita_fw-la migratio_fw-la he_o will_v not_o be_v obnoxious_a to_o any_o thing_n agreeable_a to_o which_o be_v the_o place_n cite_v from_o venerable_a bede_n but_o hence_o we_o can_v only_o infer_v that_o st._n austin_n think_v in_o such_o a_o case_n of_o absolute_a necessity_n they_o may_v be_v dispense_v with_o through_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n but_o yet_o it_o be_v evident_a he_o hold_v they_o have_v a_o right_a to_o the_o sacrament_n and_o that_o ordinary_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o their_o obtain_n life_n eternal_a which_o also_o most_o evident_o appear_v from_o the_o book_n cite_v by_o our_o author_n cap._n 24._o he_o cite_v cap._n 22._o from_o a_o ancient_n and_o as_o i_o suppose_v apostolical_a tradition_n the_o church_n of_o christ_n have_v this_o deep_o settle_v in_o they_o that_o without_o baptism_n and_o the_o participation_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n no_o man_n can_v attain_v to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n nor_o yet_o to_o life_n eternal_a which_o after_o he_o have_v endeavour_v to_o prove_v from_o 1_o peter_n 3._o and_o john_n 6._o he_o proceed_v thus_o if_o therefore_o so_o many_o testimony_n divine_v convince_v we_o that_o everlasting_a life_n be_v not_o to_o be_v expect_v without_o baptism_n and_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v in_o vain_a to_o promise_v it_o to_o child_n without_o they_o now_o if_o this_o opinion_n which_o st._n austin_n say_v be_v so_o deep_o settle_v in_o the_o 264._o see_v austin_n ep_v 95._o de_fw-fr usu_fw-la patrum_fw-la p._n 263_o 264._o church_n of_o god_n and_o which_o be_v hold_v by_o innocent_a the_o first_o by_o st._n cyprian_n and_o other_o as_o dally_n may_v inform_v you_o be_v not_o a_o flat_a contradiction_n to_o the_o trent_n council_n anathema_n upon_o those_o who_o hold_v parvulis_fw-la necessariam_fw-la esse_fw-la eucharistiae_fw-la communionem_fw-la let_v any_o reasonable_a man_n judge_v chap._n x._o the_o question_n state_v by_o mr._n c._n sect._n 1._o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a infer_v not_o purgatory_n sect._n 3_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n not_o faithful_o relate_v sect._n 4._o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a not_o of_o apostolical_a antiquity_n sect._n 5._o the_o testimony_n of_o st._n denis_n consider_v sect._n 6._o of_o tertullian_n sect._n 7._o of_o st._n cyprian_n sect._n 8._o st._n chrysostome_n sect._n 9_o eusebius_n sect._n 10._o epiphanius_n sect._n 11._o a_o evasion_n confute_v sect._n 12._o st._n ambrose_n sect._n 13._o st._n austin_n not_o for_o purgatory_n sect._n 14._o mr._n c_o s._o dilemma_n consider_v sect._n 15._o argument_n against_o purgatory_n sect._n 16_o 17._o mr._n c_o s._o argument_n answer_v s._n 18_o 19_o in_o this_o chapter_n our_o author_n tell_v we_o sect._n 1_o that_o the_o church_n oblige_v all_o catholic_n no_o further_o 112._o sect._n 4._o &_o 5._o 111_o 112._o then_o simple_o to_o believe_v there_o be_v a_o state_n or_o place_n of_o soul_n in_o which_o they_o be_v capable_a of_o receive_v help_n or_o ease_v by_o prayer_n whereupon_o he_o give_v we_o a_o prayer_n of_o the_o mass_n which_o merciful_o desire_v to_o all_o that_o rest_n in_o christ_n a_o place_n of_o refreshment_n light_n and_o peace_n through_o christ_n our_o lord_n and_o also_o another_o which_o beseech_v the_o lord_n to_o absolve_v the_o soul_n of_o his_o servant_n from_o all_o the_o chain_n of_o his_o sin_n now_o say_v he_o if_o it_o can_v be_v demonstrate_v that_o by_o the_o universal_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n such_o prayer_n as_o these_o be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a it_o avoidable_o follow_v that_o the_o soul_n for_o who_o they_o be_v make_v be_v neither_o in_o heaven_n nor_o hell_n and_o if_o so_o where_o be_v they_o dr._n pierce_n speak_v like_o a_o honest_a man_n sect._n 1_o answer_n this_o be_v a_o shrewd_a argument_n which_o force_v the_o doctor_n either_o to_o lose_v his_o honesty_n or_o his_o cause_n but_o sure_a the_o case_n be_v not_o so_o desperate_a for_o be_v this_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o yet_o be_v a_o evident_a untruth_n and_o be_v these_o prayer_n use_v from_o the_o beginning_n and_o that_o through_o the_o universal_a church_n of_o god_n which_o can_v be_v prove_v yet_o will_v i_o defy_v his_o conclusion_n and_o his_o argument_n to_o infer_v it_o for_o 1._o sect._n 2_o if_o prayer_n for_o a_o place_n of_o refreshment_n exclude_v the_o person_n pray_v for_o at_o present_a out_o of_o heaven_n then_o be_v there_o not_o one_o saint_n one_o martyr_n nay_o not_o the_o virgin_n mary_n herself_o now_o in_o heaven_n see_v the_o prayer_n beg_v this_o to_o all_o that_o rest_n in_o christ_n sanctorum_fw-la sess_n 9_o de_fw-fr invocatione_n sanctorum_fw-la and_o then_o farewell_n the_o council_n of_o trent_n which_o talk_v of_o saint_n reign_v with_o christ_n &_o aeterna_fw-la felicitate_a in_fw-la coelo_fw-la fruentium_fw-la nay_o the_o liturgy_n of_o saint_n james_n pray_v for_o the_o spirit_n of_o all_o flesh_n which_o they_o have_v pray_v for_o and_o which_o they_o have_v not_o from_o righteous_a abel_n to_o that_o very_a day_n that_o they_o may_v rest_v in_o the_o region_n of_o the_o live_n in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n in_o the_o delight_n of_o paradise_n in_o the_o bosom_n of_o abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob_n and_o yet_o will_v our_o author_n say_v that_o there_o be_v not_o one_o of_o these_o soul_n in_o heaven_n and_o so_o for_o the_o absolve_a of_o their_o sin_n which_o be_v his_o second_o instance_n the_o liturgy_n of_o saint_n crhysostom_n pray_v for_o all_o the_o father_n and_o brethren_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o have_v go_v before_o they_o for_o all_o that_o have_v labour_v and_o administer_v in_o the_o holy_a function_n before_o they_o for_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o the_o sin_n of_o the_o bvilder_n of_o their_o mansion_n worthy_a to_o be_v have_v in_o perpetual_a remembrance_n and_o pray_v god_n to_o pardon_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o the_o orthodox_n father_n and_o brethren_n which_o sleep_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o god_n in_o the_o hope_n of_o the_o resurrection_n and_o eternal_a life_n dall_n de_fw-fr satisfact_n page_n 510._o and_o likewise_o saint_n augustin_n pray_v for_o his_o mother_n that_o the_o lord_n will_v pardon_v her_o sin_n 13_o confess_v l._n 9_o c._n 13_o i_o know_v o_o lord_n say_v he_o that_o she_o be_v merciful_a and_o from_o her_o heart_n forgive_v her_o debtor_n do_v thou_o therefore_o forgive_v her_o debt_n if_o she_o have_v contract_v any_o after_o her_o baptism_n for_o so_o many_o year_n forgive_v her_o lord_n forgive_v she_o i_o beseech_v thou_o do_v not_o thou_o enter_v into_o judgement_n with_o she_o and_o so_o on_o and_o yet_o the_o same_o austin_n tell_v we_o what_o ever_o it_o be_v that_o be_v signify_v by_o abraham_n bosom_n there_o his_o mother_n be_v ibi_fw-la vivit_fw-la nam_fw-la quis_fw-la alius_fw-la tali_fw-la animae_fw-la locus_fw-la for_o what_o other_o place_n be_v fit_v for_o she_o of_o such_o prayer_n our_o author_n may_v find_v good_a store_n in_o dall_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la &_o pag._n 520._o now_o then_o be_v abraham_n bosom_n purgatory_n be_v all_o the_o orthodox_n father_n in_o purgatory_n or_o if_o not_o be_v it_o not_o evident_a that_o the_o church_n have_v make_v such_o prayer_n for_o those_o that_o be_v not_o in_o purgatory_n sect._n 4_o 2._o we_o shall_v tell_v he_o in_o the_o sequel_n of_o the_o chapter_n that_o these_o prayer_n of_o the_o father_n depend_v partly_o upon_o supposition_n explode_v by_o the_o romanist_n himself_o partly_o upon_o other_o thing_n which_o can_v suppose_v a_o purgatory_n in_o the_o mild_a sense_n sect._n 5_o but_o be_v it_o true_a that_o the_o romanist_n purgatory_n be_v only_o a_o place_n wherein_o soul_n be_v capable_a of_o receive_v help_n or_o ease_v by_o prayer_n why_o then_o may_v it_o not_o be_v heaven_n for_o the_o soul_n there_o may_v be_v help_v to_o a_o full_a state_n of_o glory_n by_o our_o prayer_n as_o the_o father_n general_o affirm_v 2._o the_o trent_n council_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o catholic_n church_n out_o of_o scripture_n and_o the_o ancient_a tradition_n of_o the_o father_n and_o the_o holy_a council_n have_v teach_v we_o that_o there_o be_v a_o purgatory_n and_o thereupon_o command_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v diligent_a that_o the_o sound_a doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n teach_v by_o the_o father_n and_o council_n shall_v be_v believe_v hold_v and_o every_o where_o preach_v now_o
consider_v what_o these_o psalm_n mean_v the_o same_o general_a practice_n and_o the_o like_a intention_n of_o the_o church_n therein_o be_v express_v and_o earnest_o urge_v by_o he_o in_o the_o same_o homily_n on_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n do_v we_o not_o praise_n god_n and_o give_v thanks_o unto_o he_o for_o that_o he_o have_v now_o crown_v he_o that_o be_v depart_v for_o that_o he_o have_v free_v he_o from_o his_o labour_n for_o that_o quit_v he_o from_o fear_n be_v keep_v he_o with_o himself_o be_v not_o the_o hymn_n for_o this_o end_n be_v not_o the_o sing_n of_o psalm_n for_o this_o purpose_n all_o these_o be_v token_n of_o rejoice_v whereupon_o he_o thus_o press_v they_o that_o use_v immoderate_a mourning_n for_o the_o dead_a thou_o say_v return_v o_o my_o soul_n unto_o thy_o rest_n for_o the_o lord_n have_v deal_v bountiful_o with_o thou_o and_o do_v thou_o weep_v be_v not_o this_o stageplay_n be_v it_o not_o mere_a simulation_n for_o if_o thou_o do_v indeed_o believe_v the_o thing_n that_o thou_o say_v thou_o lament_v idle_o but_o if_o thou_o play_v and_o dissemble_v and_o think_v those_o thing_n to_o be_v fable_n why_o do_v thou_o then_o sing_v why_o do_v thou_o suffer_v those_o thing_n that_o be_v do_v wherefore_o do_v thou_o not_o drive_v away_o they_o that_o sing_v and_o in_o the_o end_n he_o conclude_v somewhat_o prophetical_o that_o he_o very_o much_o fear_v lest_o by_o this_o mean_v some_o grievous_a disease_n shall_v creep_v in_o upon_o the_o church_n whether_o the_o doctrine_n now_o maintain_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o the_o child_n of_o god_n present_o after_o their_o departure_n out_o of_o this_o life_n be_v cast_v into_o a_o lake_n that_o burn_v with_o fire_n and_o brimstone_n be_v not_o a_o spice_n of_o this_o disease_n and_o whether_o their_o practice_n in_o chant_v of_o psalm_n appoint_v for_o the_o expression_n of_o joy_n and_o thankfulness_n over_o they_o who_o they_o esteem_v to_o be_v torment_v in_o so_o lamentable_a a_o fashion_n be_v not_o a_o part_n of_o that_o scene_n and_o pageantry_n at_o which_o saint_n chrysostome_n do_v so_o take_v on_o i_o leave_v it_o unto_o other_o to_o judge_v that_o his_o fear_n be_v not_o altogether_o vain_a the_o event_n itself_o do_v show_v the_o citation_n out_o of_o eusebius_n touch_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o people_n and_o clergy_n not_o without_o tear_n and_o groan_n sect._n 10_o 9_o de_fw-fr vita_fw-la constan_n l._n 4_o c._n 9_o for_o the_o soul_n of_o constantine_n what_o do_v it_o infer_v more_o than_o this_o that_o they_o be_v earnest_a with_o god_n that_o his_o soul_n may_v be_v partaker_n of_o some_o of_o those_o various_a benefit_n which_o we_o mention_v before_o and_o none_o of_o which_o at_o all_o refer_v to_o purgatory_n but_o yet_o notwithstanding_o that_o they_o think_v the_o emperor_n in_o a_o state_n of_o bliss_n must_v needs_o be_v grant_v if_o we_o suppose_v they_o to_o have_v believe_v what_o he_o tell_v they_o be_v at_o the_o point_n of_o death_n that_o he_o have_v now_o attain_v the_o true_a life_n 63._o euseb_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la constant_n l._n 4_o c._n 63._o and_o that_o none_o but_o himself_o do_v understand_v of_o what_o happiness_n he_o be_v make_v partaker_n and_o that_o therefore_o he_o hasten_v his_o go_v immediate_o to_o god_n as_o to_o that_o of_o epiphanius_n sect._n 11_o tell_v we_o that_o prayer_n make_v fâ—â—_n the_o dead_a profit_n we_o albeit_o they_o do_v not_o blot_v out_o entire_o all_o mortal_a sin_v first_o if_o this_o word_n stand_v which_o he_o put_v in_o then_o must_v it_o be_v grant_v that_o they_o alleviate_v even_o mortal_a sin_n and_o be_v well_o make_v for_o those_o that_o die_v under_o the_o guilt_n of_o they_o and_o then_o he_o be_v necessary_o to_o be_v understand_v in_o saint_n chrysostom_n sense_n or_o else_o he_o contradict_v the_o know_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o be_v that_o those_o prayer_n be_v not_o make_v for_o any_o that_o die_v under_o the_o guilt_n of_o mortal_a sin_n and_o indeed_o if_o this_o be_v the_o sense_n viz._n that_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v profitable_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d albeit_o they_o do_v not_o whole_o blot_v out_o the_o sin_n of_o those_o that_o be_v pray_v for_o then_o must_v it_o be_v say_v that_o some_o be_v pray_v for_o who_o sin_n be_v not_o yet_o whole_o forgive_v second_o the_o case_n stand_v thus_o aerius_n have_v object_v if_o the_o prayer_n of_o those_o here_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d altogether_o profit_v the_o dead_a then_o let_v he_o procure_v some_o to_o pray_v for_o he_o after_o he_o be_v dead_a that_o those_o heinous_a sin_n he_o have_v commit_v may_v not_o be_v require_v at_o his_o hand_n and_o then_o there_o will_v be_v no_o need_n of_o his_o be_v good_a now_o epiphanius_n thus_o answer_v we_o he_o that_o will_v see_v more_o of_o the_o sense_n of_o epiph._n in_o this_o place_n may_v consult_v bishop_n usher_n from_o p._n 236._o to_o 246._o where_o he_o show_v evident_o that_o the_o romanist_n be_v aâ—rians_n not_o we_o although_o the_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o cut_v off_o all_o their_o sin_n which_o be_v the_o only_a thing_n thou_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v yet_o do_v it_o profit_v notwithstanding_o for_o another_o purpose_n now_o from_o this_o sentence_n can_v it_o not_o be_v infer_v that_o epiphanius_n think_v these_o prayer_n profitable_a to_o the_o cut_n off_o of_o any_o sin_n which_o the_o person_n have_v commit_v in_o his_o life_n time_n but_o this_o be_v only_o add_v because_o aerius_n go_v about_o to_o prove_v this_o only_a that_o prayer_n make_v for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o cut_v off_o all_o their_o sin_n now_o whereas_o sect._n 10._o our_o author_n will_v avoid_v the_o answer_n usual_o return_v upon_o their_o argument_n sect._n 12_o by_o tell_v they_o that_o prayer_n be_v make_v for_o martyr_n apostle_n yea_o all_o saint_n 11._o p._n 115_o sect._n 11._o by_o the_o father_n which_o yet_o they_o dare_v not_o say_v be_v still_o in_o purgatory_n with_o this_o old_a salvo_n that_o such_o prayer_n as_o be_v make_v for_o remission_n of_o sin_n refreshment_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o make_v for_o they_o but_o imperfect_a sinner_n '_o this_o reply_n have_v be_v obviate_v already_o by_o i_o by_o show_v that_o such_o prayer_n as_o these_o he_o mention_n be_v make_v for_o the_o martyr_n and_o apostle_n as_o it_o be_v more_a large_o do_v by_o dally_n page_n 501._o and_o 507._o as_o to_o refreshment_n with_o such_o abundant_a evidence_n as_o i_o be_o confident_a master_n cressie_n will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o reply_v unto_o it_o and_o as_o to_o remission_n of_o sin_n with_o convictive_a evidence_n yea_o further_o they_o pray_v for_o they_o that_o they_o may_v be_v deliver_v from_o the_o punishment_n of_o hell_n and_o obtain_v everlasting_a bliss_n as_o appear_v from_o the_o liturgy_n of_o saint_n james_n that_o they_o may_v pass_v by_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n and_o the_o way_n of_o darkness_n from_o the_o prayer_n use_v of_o old_a in_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o all_o depart_v in_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o holy_a trinity_n that_o they_o may_v be_v separate_v from_o the_o punishment_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o obtain_v everlasting_a bliss_n and_o from_o what_o the_o romanist_n say_v daily_o in_o their_o mass_n desire_v the_o lord_n jesus_n that_o he_o will_v deliver_v the_o soul_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a that_o be_v depart_v from_o the_o pain_n of_o hell_n and_o from_o the_o deep_a lake_n and_o from_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o lion_n that_o hell_n do_v not_o swallow_v they_o up_o that_o they_o fall_v not_o into_o darkness_n sect._n 13_o well_o but_o our_o author_n proceed_v and_o tell_v we_o that_o indeed_o many_o of_o these_o prayer_n do_v regard_v the_o day_n of_o judgement_n 11._o p._n 115._o sect._n 11._o and_o the_o glory_n ensue_v yet_o withal_o that_o they_o think_v to_o some_o soul_n a_o present_a refreshment_n do_v accrue_v in_o the_o intermedial_a condition_n 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