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A02352 Ignis fatuus. Or, The elf-fire of purgatorie Wherein Bellarmine is confuted by arguments both out of the Old and New Testament, and by his owne proofes out of Scriptures and Fathers. Also an annexe to this treatise of purgatorie, concerning the distinction of sinne in mortall and veniall. By M. William Guild, Minister at King-Edvvard. Guild, William, 1586-1657. 1625 (1625) STC 12481; ESTC S118973 32,841 72

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punishment_n of_o sin_n and_o be_v inflict_v upon_o the_o godly_a not_o to_o prevent_v sin_n but_o for_o satisfaction_n to_o god_n justice._n whereto_o we_o answer_v that_o to_o no_o purpose_n do_v he_o instance_n the_o common_a calamity_n of_o all_o man_n or_o death_n of_o all_o in_o general_a see_v our_o controversy_n here_o be_v only_o of_o satisfactory_a punishment_n proper_a to_o the_o godly_a in_o particular_a which_o bellarmine_n himself_o confess_v the_o former_a not_o to_o be_v and_o so_o most_o clear_o answer_v for_o we_o say_v that_o indulgence_n take_v not_o away_o poenas_fw-la naturales_fw-la 1._o &_o commune_v sed_fw-la illam_fw-la quae_fw-la infligitur_fw-la in_o foro_fw-la poenitentiario_fw-la haec_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la per_fw-la quam_fw-la domino_fw-la satisfacimus_fw-la &_o cui_fw-la succedit_fw-la nisi_fw-la domino_fw-la satisfiat_fw-la in_o praesenti_fw-la purgatorii_fw-la poena_fw-la so_o that_o these_o other_o natural_a and_o common_a calamity_n be_v the_o 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