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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A08131	The Bible-bearer. By A.N. sometimes of Trinity Colledge in Oxford	Newman, Arthur.	1607 (1607)	STC 18495; ESTC S113226	23,490	50

Earle of Gowry There is another society of men who in the time of Lent were wont to eate flesh seuen daies in the wéek though out of Lent but fiue and I thinke they did it to no other ende but onely to crosse the authority of that power which enioynes them from eating of flesh meat at that time of the yéere Thus they behaue themselues in déede like men that labour to liue vncontrouled They will be euer in an ertreame for when we feast they will fast and when we fast they will feast And carry to the cie of the world such a séeming shew of sauctify that vnlesse a man be well acquainted with their manners and conditions they are able to deceiue a very well taught and grounded experience Thi● I knew Poli. thou art able to iustifie of thy selfe in thy obseruance of their beheauiours since thou hast béene a Bible-bearer I meane a professor in shew not in déede if thou wouldest but discouer their absurdities which I thinke very fit for a Caution and instruction to others Poli. I am not yet Theo. so resolued a professor but that good and holesome perswasiōs may preuaile with mee for methinkes I cannot rellish our Teachers doctrine nor do I like their impugning of the magistracy ●●●o●tan to England Page 92. nor their exhorting the common people to repute those Princes for Gods Enimies that liue not vnder the yoake of their pretended holy Discipline Theo. I make no doubt but thou wilt grow into a dislike of their dealings for they haue depraued and slaundered not onely the common book but the whole estate of the Church as it was reformed by her late maiesty Yea in her maiesties life time the state of this church of England was so depraued beyond the Seas by new fangle D●sciplinartans Qualter episcop l li●usi an 1574. as that it hath béene conceiued by very godly and Religious men in forreigne Countries that we haue no lawes no good orders no discipline but that euery man may do what he list They refuse to subscribe to the Kings lawfull authority in causes Ecclesiasticall to the Articles of Religion to the Book of common prayer and the orders rites and Ceremonies of our Church Nay they dissent from vs in thinges accidentall and Ceremoniall For example sake Pet. Mart. in Epist 3. Beza in lij●●st 8 ●2 the Cappe and the Surplesse c. are Adiaphora that is thinges in different in their owne nature yet are there many of so peruerse a condition that rather then they will weare them they will lose their liuings and forsake their callings Poli. They are not of my minde for in my opinion that is then great folly and insolency Had I a good liuing I should willingly vse those matters being things so indifferent before I should forgoe my meanes by such a madnesse Bulling aduersus Anaba●t fo 18 102. But who haue they cryed out against benificed-men saying they were Ventris minstra Ministers of the belly and that they could not teach truely because of their great liuing Theo The onely thing I think Poli. they aymed at was that the Pastors might be expelled that so they might succéede them Swinglius saith They teach that such cannot preach the Gospell sincerely Zuingl in Ecclesiast which haue great benifices But then hope is to haue the true Pastors expelled that they may succeede in their places And yet forsooth they publikely protest they seeke for no liuing Po. But I pray thée fell me The that I may profit by thée how long h●●h the Surplesse beene vsed Theo. Hierom. de s●npioribus ecclesiast The Godly fathers of the Church in the purest estate therof haue left it in writing that the Ministers in their times did vsually put on white garments in the celebration of the Sacramentes and execution of diuine Seruice Nay it was vsed in the very day●e of the Apostles as is testified by Hegesipp●● who as an holy Father saith liued néere the Apostles time His Testimony is this Hegisip li. comment linea no lanea veste induauatur When Iames sirnamed Iustus went into the Temple he was apparelled with a linnen vesture Poli. This shall suffice me for that question but why do our teachers tel vs that the Crosse in baptisme is a piece of Popery Theo. Therein they commit a fallacy for it was vsed in the Church within the compasse of 300 yéeres after Christ and hath béene vsed euer since Dyon Arcop de ecclesiast hierer ca. de baptismo Besides the writinges of many fathers that iustifie the same Dionisius Areopagita who liued in the Apostles tyme maketh mention of the Crosse in baptisme why do they finde fault with the Ring in the solemnization of Marraige The. They are too nice in their points The ring in Ma●●●mony is an auncient Ceremony For Tertullian who ●●ued almost 200. yeares before Saint Chrysostomes time maketh mention of it Therefore Zanchye speaketh in our behalfe for the vse thereof Z●n●h●●s d● 〈◊〉 C●●● Resexternae c. Things exte●nall which are n●t repugnant to the word and which neither are Superstitious nor obscene are to be obserued acc●rding to the Custome of the Countrey wherein wee liue But many make shewe of zeale where there is none affecting new formes Inuenting new opinions and running from errour to errour Po. What thinke you the cause that many haue so run from one newe opinion to another and are of no more slayed and setled a iudgement The I coniecture it to bee because they haue contemned and disdained the auncient fathers of the church and haue thought it the loosing and mispending of good hours to pervse their writinges For one of them being vrged for his conformity with the Testimonies of the Classicall and principall Doctors of the Church T. C li. 1 pag. 154 cried out that Truth was measured by the crooked yard of Tyme and termed the séeking into the Fathers writings A taking in duches and that his harty ●●xed cold and his flesh trembled to heare m●n say th●t a Preacher should quote Doctors alledge P●et● and Philosophers Idem li. 1. pag. 1.4 and confirme hys matter o●t of hum ne vvriters And yet Paule himselfe doth alledge Aratus Menander and Epime●ides who were all He●●●en P●e●● Poly. I thinke that warrant enough and sufficient But what is the reason then that since my late conuersing with some of them I haue hearde such exceptions taken against Poets and Philosophers and the fathers whom they ought rather to reuerence with Seneca saying Ego illos ve●eror c and to do a kind of homage to their very names Aug. lib. 3. contra Petilian ca. 16 The. I am thus conceipted of them that as Petilian dispraised Logicke and Rhetoricke because hee himselfe had no skill in these Artes So many New-fangle-Nouilists contemne all Gentile learning and finde faulte with such as make vse of it because they themselues are ignorant therein Resembling the