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B11734	The vnreasonablenesse of the separation Made apparant, by an examination of Mr. Iohnsons pretended reasons, published an. 1608. Wherby hee laboureth to iustifie his schisme from the church assemblies of England.	Bradshaw, William, 1571-1618.; Ames, William, 1576-1633. Manudicition for Mr. Robinson.	1614 (1614)	STC 3532; ESTC S113892	55,662	116

Ministrie and a purpose to giue themselues over vnto that worke They haue in some good measure for none hath them in perfection all those graces and gifts that Paul to Timothie requires to bee in Bishops and Elders They are so judged and esteemed to bee of other Ministers and well grounded Christians and of those people which submit vnto their Ministrie who accepting of them and their Ministrie as sent of God desiring and yealding themselues to liue vnder them as is fitting for Christians And they resolving to guide and governe them as becometh spirituall leaders and guides Such calling and entraunce as this haue many of our Church-officers more then this in substance and effect is not appointed by Christ Those defects and errors which over and besides many time they yeald vnto in their calling entraunce and administration are not of that nature and qualitie that they make anullitie thereof or make it a fals and Antichristian calling entrance or administration The maintenance they liue by as it is no where in speciall appointed of Christ so is it no where in generall or speciall forbidden In the yealding wher-of vnto the Ministers they fulfill the Testament of Christ in giving of their temporall things for spirituall in giving hire to the Labourers c. and do not therin breake any parts els therof hee having no where forbiden any such manner of maintenance but left it indifferent to giue money or fruits In fruits to giue the twentith the twelfth the tenth the eighth of the increase according ether to their estate or the necessitie of the Ministers wherein the Magistrate hath authority to rule and define who hath in his hand the power of mens temporall estates or the Church if the Magistrate leaue vnto them the free vse of their owne Temporalties Nether is the tenth required to be giuen by the Magistrate or yealded to bee given by the Church to the maintenaince of the Ministers any more ceremoniall or Iudaicall in regard of the number then in regard of the matter Nether did their any Ministery lie so much in the quantity of the thing given as in the very gift and offering it selfe So that by the same reason that you make it vnlawfull for Ministers to be maintained by tithes you make it vnlawfull for them to haue any kinde of maintenaunce from the Church there having bin a Ceremonie in the very matter it self as much as in the quantitie or number For not onely their giving the tithe of their increase but also the very giving of their increase it selfe out of that consideration was ceremoniall The fourth Demande Whether every true visible Church of Christ bee not a companie of people called and seperated out from the worlde and the fals worship and waies therof by the word of God and joined together in the fellowship of the Gospell by voluntarie profession of the faith and obedience of Christ I answer 1. That every true visible Church of Christ is such a people 2. That yet not withstanding they bee such they may in their infirmitie and ignorance walke in some of the waies and practice some parts of the fals worship of the world not withstanding their said seperation conjunction and profession 3. They may in time become the true visible Churches of Christ which at the first were not in the said manner and forme called seperated and joined together but forced and constrained against their will by the sword of the Magistrate 4. Many of those Churches in our kingdome from which you seperate as they now stand are such a companie of people so called seperated and joined together though in all three there may bee some kinde of defects and wants The fift Demande Whether the Sacraments being the seales of righteousnes which is by faith may be administred vnto any other but to the faithfull and their feed or in any other Ministrie or māner then is appointed by Iesus Christ the Apostle and high Priest of our profession And whether they be no otherwise administred in our Cathedrall Parishionall Churches in England 1. I graunt that the Sacraments ought to bee administred onely to the faithfull in outward profession and their seed and in no other Ministrie or manner then is appointed by Christ 2. In many of our Churches at the least they are administred in no other manner from and by no other Ministry then Christ hath appointed nor to no other persons 3. Every error and defect in some part of the matter and forme and ministrie a rising of ignorance or infirmity maketh not the Churches fals Churches except you hould That no true perticuler Church can erre which is a more grosse opinion then that of the Papists The sixt Demande Whether the booke of Common Praier with the feasts fasts holy daies stinted Praiers liturgie prescribed therin vsed in theis Assemblies be the true worship of God commaunded in his word or the deuise invention of man for Gods worship service 1. Though it should bee graunted that the booke of Common praier in all the parts and percels therof is not the true worship of God but containeth in it some devises and inventions of man yet the true worship of God not withstanding is prescribed in it 2. So much of it as is vsed in many of our Churches is the true worship of God and in effect commanded in his word 3. Those devises and inventions of men with the feasts fasts holy daies therin prescribed though they should be graunted to be sinnes and corruptions in our Churches such as ought not to be conformed vnto such as we ought rather to seperate frō our Churches then ether by subscription conformity or any other meanes to approue yet are they not of that nature that the simple vse of any or all of them doth destroy the very being of those Churches which vse them making them fals Churches and such as wee may haue no spirituall communion withall no not in the best things The seaventh Demande Whether all people and Churches without exception be not bound in Religion onely to receive and submit vnto that Ministry worship and order which Christ as Lord and King hath given and appointed to his Church Or whether any may receiue joine vnto another devised by man for the service of God And consequently whether they that joine to the present ecclesiasticall Ministery worship and order of the Cathedrall and Parishionall Assemblies can bee assured by the word of God that they joine to the former ordained by Christ and not to the latter devised by man even the man of sinne for the worship and service of God 1. I graunt that wee are bound in Religion to do that which is specified in the first part of your question 2. To joine with our eccleasiiasticall Ministrie worship and orders at least in those Assemblies whether Cathedrall or other when and where all things are not performed according to the rigour of our lawes is not to joine with a Ministrie and worship devised by that man of sinne but though not in all the specialties and formalities therof with such a Ministrie and worship as is required and instituted of God 3. They which joine to the present ecclesiasticall Ministrie worship and order of the Cathedral or Parishionall Assemblies in those things which are performed therein according to the true intent and meaning of our lawes though some things bee done not warrantable by the word yet they may bee assured by the word of God that they joine to the substance of that Ministrie worship and order which Christ as Lord King hath given and appointed to his Church At least they may bee as well assured therof by Gods word as any that joine with the present ecclesiasticall Ministery worship and order of the Assemblies of those of the Seperation can bee assured by the same word that they joine to that forme which is ordained by Christ

in some points of their ministery to swerue from some observances which the lawes require The Argument therefore will not follow from the qualitie of the ministery except hee can proue that our Ministery is in all our Assemblies in all respects aimswerable to our lawes 2. The Preesthood which the law admitteth is not called Sacerdotius but Presbyteratus and the Priests are not called Sacerdotes or sacrificers but Presbyters as sufficiently appeares by our orders in Latin Therefore the Law doth not intende any true and proper Priesthood but onely boroweth the name to expresse an office of another kinde 3. To bee Persons Vicars Stipendaries Chaplins c. is not to haue a diuers kind of Priesthood or deaconry or Ministery as hee foolishly conceiteth onely varietie of Tytles is giuen to the same kind of Ministery in diuers persons in respect only of a diuers kinde of maintenaunce or dependance for Parsons are such as haue all tythes in kinde Vicars such as haue only the smaller Tyths the other being impropriated by the Magistrate for other purposes Stipendaries are such as are maintained by the voluntary Contribution of their Churches or by some such like meanes Chaplins are such as depend vpon great men The Ministery of all which If they duly execute the same is one and the same even that and noe other for substance which is proper to true Pastors and Teachers Fr. Iohn The Assumption is prooued by their 7. Arguments following The. 1 Arg. The Pastors and Teachers spoken of Eph. 4.11 haue their offices callings administration and mainetenaunce ordained by Christ in his Testamente Eph. 4.8.11.12 and Rom. 12.7.8 Act. 14.23 and 20.17.28 Heb. 5.4 Col. 4.17 1. Thes 5 12.13.14 1. Pet. 5.1.2.3 Reu. 2. and 3. and 22.18 1. Cor. 14.1 and 5.4 and 9.14 and 11.23 and 12.28 Gal. 6.6 But the Prelates Priests Deacons of the Church of England haue not their offices Callings Ministration and Maintenaunce ordained by Christ in his Testament Ergo. They are not Pastors and Teachers spoken of Eph. 4.11 The Assumption appeareth by their Constitution and practice in as much as their offices of Prelacie Priesthood and Deaconry their calling and entraunce according to their Pontificall Their choyse of their people whoe stand themselues vnder Antichrist and vnseperated from the worlde and are noe true visible Churches of Christe Their Ministration by their owne and other Popish Canons Artes Iniunctions and booke of Common prayer their maintenaunce by Tyths Lordships c. were neuer ordained by Christ for his Ministery but diriued from Antichrist and his Apostasye as hath bene proued by vs in diuers treatises Answere 1. The Proposition is not true except hee vnderstand by offices Callings and administration the Substantial or Essentiall parts therof Otherwise those very Pastors and Teachers ther spoken of may haue diuers accessary parts of their offices callings and administration not ordayned by Christ in the newe Testament Nether is it true Yf by maintenaunce hee meane any speciall kind of maintenaunce It is to be graunted in generall That Ministers are to haue sufficient maintenaunce and the texts a ledged for that proues noe more and therfore that which they proue is nothing to the purpose As little to the purpose are the other Texts for it will not follow from any force in them but that there may bee sundry accidents cleauing as parts to the offices calling and maintenaunce of true Pastors and Teachers which Christ neuer ordained 2. Concerning the Assumption 1. whether Prelates haue their office calling c. ordained by Christ is besids the present question Except M. Iohnson can proue that they are ordinary Ministers of our Church Assemblies which I am sure hee cannot 2 Soe many of our Ministers whoe in the booke of ordination are called Priests and Deacons as in all points concerning the substaunce of their Ministery are qualified according to the intent of the lawes haue their offices callings administration and maintenaunce for the substaunce therof ordained by Christ And yet I deny not but ther may be some accidentall defects or Superfluityes in and a bout them all yet such as doe or cannot be proued to destroy the nature and substance of any of them 3. All that is brought to proue the Assumption is falce and as much if not more controuersal then the Assumption it selfe For 1. hee can neuer proue that either the practis of all our Ministers is in all things according to that Constitution or their constitution according to their practis or either of them answerable to the strict termes of the law in all points 2. Hee can neuer proue that either in their constitution or practis or by the law they are in proper speech either Priests or Deacons only hee presumes them to be such because through some libertie of speech vsed in the lawes they are termed such Though it should bee graunted that our people stand vnder some kinde of observances and offices which in their owne nature and first originall are in some kinde Antichristian Yet they are of such a nature that divers worthy Martyrs of Iesus Christ that haue with stood Antichrist vnto blood haue stood vnder as much as wee And therfore such a manner of standing vnder Antichrist cannot be said to overthrowe though it may somwhat staine the Ministery of Christe But howsoeuer hee herein shamefully begs the question in the naked affirming without any prooffe That all in this kingdome are vnder Antichrist 4. Though for avoyding further controuersie that should be graunted him that some parts of our ministratiō by the Canons c. was neuer ordayned by Christ Yet at the least the maine principall and Essentiall parts therof performed according to the Canons and booke a foresaid are ordayned by Christ yea by M. Iohnson himself Nether hath hee proued or euer can proue That that part of our ministration by our Canons and booke a foresaid which Christ hath not ordayned If any such bee is of that nature and qualitie that it necessaryly destroyeth or maketh a nullity of the other parts of their Ministery which vse them 5. Though Tythes and Lordshippes and manners in perticulers bee not ordayned by Christ for the maintenaunce of Ministers yet they are as much ordayned as any other particuler or speciall kind of maintenaunce It is the will of Christ that the Ministers of the Gospell should liue of the Gospell i. should bee manietanied for their Ministery sake by them to whome they preach the Gospell But in what particuler manner that maintaynaunce should bee raysed hee hath noe wher defined and therfore left it to the discretion of Christian Magistrates or Churches 6. Wheras for the proofes of theis maine pointes hee referreth vs to the generall Tytles of certaine Treatises formerly published hee might as well send vs as they say to seeke a needle in a bottle of hay and why doth hee not in all other points of this booke as well as in the is send vs to the saide Treatises