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A41623 Pulpit-sayings, or, The characters of the pulpit-papist examined in answer to the Apology for the pulpits and in vindication of the representer against the stater of the controversie. Gother, John, d. 1704. 1688 (1688) Wing G1347; ESTC R18623 55,138 78

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these Colours were the Papists Represented from the Pulpit by these Preachers in the Year 1681. when the time was not of confuting them by Gospel and Reason but by barbarously knocking them in the Head like Beasts But all these Colours are either False or Deceitful as might be easily shewn at large but I am quite tir'd as I fear the Reader is too by staying so long in this nauscous Stuff I 'll therefore pass them over as such Calumnies deserve with as short a Reflection as may be but yet in order And therefore as to the First it is absolutely False for Falshood and Deceit are no where recommended or taught by his Church and are so far from sitting Men for Heaven that I am certain no Man of what Church soever guilty of those wicked Qualities can possibly have admittance there till they have first discharg'd their Conscience by a sincere Repentance and made Restitution to the Parties Injur'd to the best of their power This is the Receiv'd Doctrin of his Church and I hope in their Dealing they practise it as much as any I don't question but there are still Knaves of his Communion but then let that Teacher who has no such of his Coat or in his Church come and sling the first Stone The Second is False too since 't is known that there are great numbers of Papists who were never so by Education And is it not an abominable and wicked Slander to accuse all such of Atheism and that had it not been for their blinding themselves by this they had never become Papists Since such as have made the Observation find that those who were of a good Life when Protestants continue to be so when Papists and that many who liv'd like Atheists when Protestants become better Christians by being Papists The Third is likewise False since the Council of Trent do's not allow the Picturing the Divinity it self as the Preacher says but takes particular care if it happen says the Council that the Histories of the Holy Scripture be Painted or Figur'd that the People be taught that the Divinity is not therefore Figur'd or Painted as if that could be seen with Corporeal Eyes or represented in Colours Sess 25. which is just contrary to what the Preacher delivers And therefore tho' sometimes in our Churches there may be seen Figures to put us in mind of the Blessed Trinity yet the like may be seen too in the Frontispiece of some Bibles and Common-Prayer-Books of the Church of England to which the Preacher's Exclamation of O Hateful Sight may be as properly apply'd as to any thing of that nature in our Churches The Fourth of Praying to Images is false too for we are taught to Pray to none but God alone and to desire the Intercession or Prayers of such holy Persons as are acceptable to God whether in Heaven or Earth These we own may be assisting to us by the Prayers they offer up to the Throne of God where St. John saw an Angel offering Incense with the Prayers of all the Saints upon the Golden Altar which was before the Throne Revel 8. 3. But for Images we confess them to be nothing but Wood or Stone c. that they can neither Hear See nor Understand they are of some use indeed inasmuch as they are Sacred Remembrances of Christ or his Saints but are still devoid of all Power of Helping or Praying for us And we acknowledge it a like Absurdity to Pray to an Image as to offer a Petition to the Statue of the King. The Apologizer has found an odd Notion pag. 32. of leaving Prayers with an Image which I suppose is the same as leaving ones Grace in a Hat when a Man gives Thanks with that before his Mouth and his Eyes And if this be his meaning of our Praying to Images I wish he would expound it so to his Hearers at his next Meeting otherwise I shall still take him for a Misrepresenter If I charg'd any thing farther than due in relation to this Point in the Advice to the Pulpits I ask the Preacher's Pardon resolving to do him all the Right he shall require for I assure him 't was nothing of Design but Mistake only and therefore I do not here set this Calumny under his Name but quote the Apologizer who both asserts and pretends to defend it And I wish the Pulpits would do us the same Right in retracting and owning the many Wrongs they have done us if Repenting be not beneath their Station The Fifth is False since we worship only God himself and not the Bread and Wine which we believe not to be in the B. Sacrament And therefore this Charge is to be reckon'd for Misrepresenting by the Judgment of a former Adversary who gives this Sentence If we put our own Opinions of his a Papists Faith and Practice into his Character this says he is Misrepresenting because a Papist has not the same Opinion of these things which we have and this makes it a false Character Answ to Pap. Prot. pag. 17. Let the Apologizer examin this Rule and see whether it be not our Case whilst the Preacher gives a Character of us not according to ours but his own Belief The Sixth is False for tho' we confess a Temporal Punishment sometimes to remain due to Sin after the Guilt is remitted yet the Eternal Punishment is releas'd through the Influence of the same Cause by which the Guilt is discharg'd to wit the Passion of Christ and whatsoever Satisfaction we attribute to Human Means yet nothing of this can find acceptance or prevail with God but through the help of his Divine Grace and the Merits of Christ our Redeemer who gave himself a General Ransom for the World and yet requires we should apply it to our selves which Application of ours do's not at all derogate from the Plenitude of Christ's Satisfaction The Seventh is absolutely contrary to the Doctrin and General Practice of our Church whose Members do generally go to Confession many times in the Year and are under an Obligation of doing it at least Once a Year which cannot be perform'd as is directed by our Spiritual Books but by a Sincere and Hearty Repentance how then is the Non-necessity of Repentance before the Imminent Point of Death a Doctrin of ours when all in our Communion are bound by Precept not to defer it past the Year All our Divines indeed own Repentance to be absolutely necessary at the Point of Death but that it is not necessary till then I am certain is contrary both to the Receiv'd Doctrin of our Church and the Practice of her Professors And tho' we acknowledge that a Hearty Repentance even at the Point of Death is accepted by God according to that At whatsoever hour a Sinner Repents c. Yet this is not to be rely'd on and we hear nothing so much discourag'd in our Books and Sermons as deferring Repentance to the last there being but One as S.