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temporall_n it_o may_v therefore_o depose_v
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sovereign_n than_o child_n be_v command_v to_o honour_v their_o parent_n and_o wife_n to_o obey_v their_o husband_n 110._o if_o our_o adversary_n object_n that_o the_o case_n allege_v by_o we_o here_o and_o above_o to_o prove_v that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n do_v sometime_o exercise_v their_o power_n over_o temporal_n or_o deprive_v other_o of_o some_o temporal_a thing_n do_v proceed_v not_o from_o a_o ordinary_a but_o a_o extraordinary_a power_n and_o by_o consequence_n hence_o can_v be_v infer_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v any_o such_o power_n since_o he_o succeed_v christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n in_o their_o ordinary_a jurisdiction_n only_o to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o all_o the_o case_n at_o least_o allege_a by_o we_o be_v not_o such_o for_o the_o power_n to_o deprive_v one_o by_o excommunication_n of_o all_o civil_a conversation_n and_o to_o separate_v a_o man_n from_o his_o wife_n in_o certain_a case_n be_v inherent_a in_o the_o pope_n according_a to_o his_o ordinary_a 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and_o authentic_a act_n wherein_o they_o approve_v our_o present_a oath_n of_o allegiance_n as_o it_o lie_v and_o all_o its_o clause_n wherein_o the_o difficulty_n thereof_o consist_v neither_o do_v our_o adversary_n pretend_v any_o such_o thing_n but_o only_o that_o the_o parliament_n and_o university_n of_o paris_n with_o some_o other_o parliament_n and_o university_n of_o france_n have_v make_v decree_n wherein_o they_o deny_v the_o pope_n to_o have_v any_o power_n whatsoever_o to_o depose_v king_n or_o to_o absolve_v their_o subject_n from_o the_o allegiance_n due_a unto_o they_o for_o any_o cause_n or_o under_o any_o pretence_n whatsoever_o yet_o hence_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o the_o parliament_n or_o university_n of_o that_o kingdom_n do_v approve_v this_o oath_n for_o to_o approve_v a_o oath_n it_o be_v necessary_a to_o approve_v all_o and_o every_o part_n thereof_o and_o who_o only_o approve_v one_o part_n do_v not_o therefore_o approve_v the_o whole_a so_o that_o 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manner_n either_o for_o such_o or_o as_o bad_a as_o such_o 58._o other_o think_v they_o can_v swear_v with_o truth_n that_o neither_o the_o pope_n nor_o any_o other_o whatsoever_o can_v absolve_v they_o from_o this_o oath_n or_o any_o part_n thereof_o in_o any_o case_n imaginable_a since_o the_o king_n himself_o may_v absolve_v his_o subject_n from_o such_o a_o oath_n either_o all_o of_o they_o by_o lay_v down_o the_o government_n with_o consent_n of_o the_o kingdom_n as_o charles_n the_o five_o do_v and_o it_o be_v hard_o to_o oblige_v one_o to_o swear_v that_o a_o king_n of_o england_n in_o no_o case_n possible_a can_v do_v the_o like_a or_o at_o least_o some_o of_o they_o by_o pass_v a_o town_n under_o his_o jurisdiction_n to_o another_o king_n as_o his_o majesty_n pass_v dunkirk_n to_o the_o french_a king_n and_o consequent_o absolve_v from_o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n the_o inhabitant_n who_o have_v take_v it_o moreover_o they_o do_v not_o see_v how_o they_o can_v swear_v 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a_o indirect_a power_n to_o depose_v king_n and_o so_o palpable_a that_o sure_a these_o author_n can_v not_o choose_v but_o perceive_v it_o be_v there_o not_o a_o great_a difference_n between_o the_o power_n his_o majesty_n have_v to_o depose_v or_o recall_v a_o lord-lieutenant_n of_o ireland_n and_o to_o depose_v a_o foreign_a prince_n when_o he_o can_v otherwise_o defend_v his_o subject_n between_o the_o right_a every_o one_o have_v to_o make_v use_n of_o what_o be_v his_o own_o and_o to_o make_v use_n of_o what_o belong_v to_o another_o in_o case_n of_o extreme_a necessity_n between_o the_o right_a one_o have_v to_o cut_v off_o his_o hair_n and_o to_o cut_v off_o his_o arm_n when_o otherwise_o the_o whole_a body_n will_v perish_v between_o the_o power_n a_o man_n have_v to_o put_v away_o his_o servant_n and_o to_o put_v away_o his_o wife_n from_o cohabit_v with_o he_o in_o some_o extraordinary_a case_n certain_o such_o power_n be_v very_o different_a and_o as_o different_a be_v a_o 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that_o account_n only_o since_o even_o bellarmine_n and_o peron_n be_v not_o of_o opinion_n that_o a_o prince_n can_v be_v depose_v mere_o because_o he_o be_v a_o heretic_n unless_o moreover_o he_o do_v endeavour_v to_o pervert_v his_o subject_n so_o that_o one_o can_v swear_v positive_o neither_o do_v the_o pope_n require_v it_o of_o any_o one_o that_o a_o king_n neither_o by_o himself_o nor_o by_o any_o authority_n derive_v from_o his_o crown_n or_o otherwise_o have_v any_o power_n whatsoever_o in_o any_o case_n imaginable_a to_o depose_v the_o pope_n not_o only_o as_o a_o temporal_a prince_n but_o also_o as_o pope_n or_o a_o ecclesiastical_a sovereign_n according_a to_o what_o have_v be_v insinuate_v what_o wonder_n be_v it_o therefore_o that_o catholic_n shall_v scruple_n to_o swear_v positive_o in_o as_o ample_a term_n that_o the_o pope_n can_v depose_v king_n for_o sure_a no_o catholic_n will_v affirm_v that_o king_n have_v more_o power_n over_o the_o pope_n than_o the_o pope_n over_o king_n 117._o from_o what_o hitherto_o have_v be_v discuss_v in_o reference_n to_o this_o point_n i_o conclude_v that_o though_o the_o opinion_n that_o deny_v the_o pope_n to_o have_v any_o authority_n to_o depose_v king_n shall_v be_v true_a yet_o the_o forementioned_a reason_n to_o prove_v it_o be_v manifest_o false_a or_o inconclusive_a and_o consequent_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o author_n who_o ground_n themselves_o upon_o those_o reason_n as_o most_o of_o our_o adversary_n do_v be_v void_a and_o of_o no_o force_n yea_o shall_v the_o aforesaid_a reason_n prove_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o any_o power_n to_o depose_v king_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o the_o oath_n may_v lawful_o be_v take_v for_o there_o be_v many_o other_o difficulty_n as_o we_o have_v see_v 118._o concern_v the_o example_n of_o such_o catholic_n as_o have_v take_v the_o oath_n consider_v first_o whether_o most_o of_o they_o have_v not_o be_v guide_v by_o the_o authority_n 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