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A52036 An answer to a booke entitvled An hvmble remonstrance in which the originall of liturgy, episcopacy is discussed : and quares propounded concerning both : the parity of bishops and presbyters in Scripture demonstrated : the occasion of their imparity in antiquity discovered : the disparity of the ancient and our moderne bishops manifested : the antiquity of ruling elders in the church vindicated : the prelaticall church bownded / written by Smectymnvvs. Smectymnuus.; Milton, John, 1608-1674. 1641 (1641) Wing M748; ESTC R21898 76,341 112

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constitute_v to_o this_o work_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d three_o that_o they_o have_v such_o authority_n entru_v into_o their_o hand_n as_o that_o they_o may_v interdict_v such_o as_o be_v scandalous_a from_o the_o public_a assembly_n we_o will_v glad_o know_v whether_o these_o be_v not_o as_o it_o be_v lay_v elder_n that_o there_o be_v such_o in_o the_o church_n distinguish_v from_o other_o that_o be_v call_v to_o teach_v appear_v 137._o augustine_n write_v to_o his_o charge_n direct_v his_o epistle_n dilectissimis_fw-la fratribus_fw-la clero_fw-la senioribus_fw-la &_o universae_fw-la plebi_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la hipponensis_n where_o first_o there_o be_v the_o general_a compellation_n fratribus_fw-la brethren_n than_o there_o be_v a_o distribution_n of_o these_o brethren_n into_o the_o clergy_n the_o elder_n and_o the_o whole_a people_n so_o that_o there_o be_v in_o that_o church_n elder_n distinguish_v both_o from_o the_o clergy_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n so_o again_o contra_fw-la cresconium_fw-la grammaticum_fw-la omnes_fw-la vos_fw-la episcopi_fw-la cap._n presbyteri_fw-la diaconi_fw-la &_o seniores_fw-la scitis_fw-la all_o you_o bishop_n elder_n deacon_n and_o elder_n do_v know_v what_o be_v those_o two_o sort_n of_o elder_n there_o mention_v in_o one_o comma_n &_o ibidem_fw-la cap._n 56._o peregrinus_n presbyter_n &_o seniores_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la musticanae_fw-la regiones_fw-la tale_n desiderium_fw-la prosequuntur_fw-la where_o
the_o church_n be_v govern_v communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la by_o the_o counsel_n of_o the_o presbyter_n in_o common_a and_o that_o even_o after_o this_o imparity_n it_o ought_v to_o be_v so_o govern_v sciant_fw-la episcopi_fw-la se_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la debere_fw-la in_o communi_fw-la regere_fw-la five_o that_o the_o occasion_n of_o this_o imparity_n and_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n above_o elder_n be_v the_o division_n which_o through_o the_o devil_n instinct_n fall_v among_o the_o church_n post_fw-la quam_fw-la verò_fw-la diaboli_fw-la instinctu_fw-la saravia_n will_v take_v advantage_n of_o this_o place_n to_o deduce_v this_o imparity_n as_o high_a as_o from_o the_o apostle_n time_n because_o even_o then_o they_o begin_v to_o say_v i_o be_o of_o paul_n and_o i_o of_o apollo_n but_o sure_a s._n jerome_n be_v not_o so_o weak_a as_o this_o man_n will_v make_v he_o to_o speak_v inconsistency_n and_o when_o he_o propound_v it_o to_o himself_o to_o prove_v that_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v in_o scripture_n the_o same_o to_o let_v fall_v word_n that_o shall_v confute_v his_o own_o proposition_n whereas_o therefore_o s._n jerome_n say_v that_o after_o man_n begin_v to_o say_v i_o be_o of_o paul_n and_o i_o of_o apollo_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v decree_v that_o one_o of_o the_o presbyter_n shall_v be_v set_v over_o the_o rest_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v speak_v indeed_o in_o the_o apostle_n phrase_n but_o not_o of_o the_o apostle_n time_n else_o to_o what_o purpose_n be_v that_o coacervation_n of_o text_n that_o follow_v but_o suppose_v it_o shall_v be_v grant_v to_o be_v of_o apostolical_a antiquity_n which_o yet_o we_o grant_v not_o have_v prove_v the_o contrary_a yet_o it_o appear_v it_o be_v not_o of_o apostolical_a intention_n but_o of_o diabolical_a occasion_n and_o though_o the_o devil_n by_o kindle_v division_n in_o the_o church_n do_v minister_v occasion_n to_o the_o invention_n of_o the_o primacy_n or_o prelacy_n or_o one_o for_o the_o suppress_n of_o schism_n yet_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n to_o think_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n in_o his_o apostle_n be_v never_o the_o author_n of_o this_o invention_n first_o because_o we_o read_v in_o the_o apostle_n day_n there_o be_v division_n rome_n 16.7_o and_o schism_n 1_o cor._n 3.3_o &_o 11.18_o yet_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o direct_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o ord●ine_a bishop_n for_o the_o take_v away_o of_o those_o division_n neither_o in_o the_o rule_v he_o prescribe_v for_o the_o heal_n of_o those_o breach_n do_v he_o mention_v bishop_n for_o that_o end_n nor_o in_o the_o direction_n give_v to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n for_o the_o ordination_n of_o bishop_n or_o elder_n do_v he_o mention_v this_o as_o one_o end_n of_o their_o ordination_n or_o one_o peculiar_a duty_n of_o their_o office_n and_o though_o the_o apostle_n say_v o_o portet_fw-la haereses_fw-la inter_fw-la vos_fw-la esse_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la probati_fw-la sunt_fw-la manifesti_fw-la fiant_fw-la inter_fw-la vos_fw-la yet_o the_o apostle_n no_o where_o say_v oportet_fw-la episcopos_fw-la esse_fw-la ut_fw-la tollantur_fw-la haereses_fw-la quae_fw-la mainifestae_fw-la fiunt_fw-la second_o because_o as_o doctor_n whitaker_n say_v the_o remedy_n devise_v have_v prove_v worse_a than_o the_o disease_n which_o do_v never_o happen_v to_o that_o remedy_n whereof_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o author_n three_o because_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o can_v foresee_v what_o will_v ensue_v thereupon_o will_v never_o ordain_v that_o for_o a_o remedy_n which_o will_v not_o only_o be_v ineffectual_a to_o the_o cut_n off_o of_o evil_a but_o become_v a_o stirrup_n for_o antichrist_n to_o get_v into_o his_o ●addle_n for_o if_o there_o be_v a_o necessity_n of_o set_v up_o one_o bishop_n over_o many_o presbyter_n for_o prevent_a schism_n there_o be_v as_o great_a a_o necessity_n of_o set_v up_o one_o archbishop_n over_o many_o bishop_n and_o one_o patriarch_n over_o many_o archbishop_n and_o one_o pope_n over_o all_o unless_o man_n will_v imagine_v that_o there_o be_v a_o danger_n of_o schism_n only_o among_o presbyter_n and_o not_o among_o bishop_n and_o archbishop_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o reason_n truth_n history_n and_o our_o own_o experience_n and_o lest_o our_o adversary_n shall_v appeal_v from_o hierome_n as_o a_o incompetent_a judge_n in_o this_o case_n because_o a_o presbyter_n and_o so_o a_o party_n we_o will_v therefore_o subjoyne_v the_o judgement_n of_o other_o ancient_a father_n who_o be_v themselves_o bishop_n the_o commentary_n that_o go_v under_o the_o name_n of_o saint_n ambrose_n upon_o ephes._n 4._o mention_n another_o occasion_n of_o this_o discrimination_n or_o priority_n and_o that_o be_v etc._n the_o increase_n and_o dilatation_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o occasion_n whereof_o they_o do_v ordain_v rector_n or_o governor_n and_o other_o officer_n in_o the_o church_n yet_o this_o he_o grant_v that_o this_o do_v differ_v from_o the_o former_a order_n of_o the_o church_n and_o from_o apostolical_a writ_n and_o this_o rectorship_n or_o priority_n be_v devolve_v at_o first_o from_o one_o elder_a to_o another_o by_o succession_n when_o he_o who_o be_v in_o the_o place_n be_v remove_v the_o next_o in_o order_n among_o the_o elder_n succeed_v but_o this_o be_v afterward_o change_v and_o that_o unworthy_a man_n may_v not_o be_v prefer_v it_o be_v make_v a_o matter_n of_o election_n and_o not_o a_o matter_n of_o succession_n thus_o much_o we_o find_v concern_v the_o occasion_n of_o this_o imparity_n enough_o to_o show_v it_o be_v not_o of_o divine_a authority_n for_o the_o second_o thing_n the_o person_n who_o bring_v in_o this_o imparity_n the_o same_o author_n tell_v we_o the_o presbyter_n themselves_o bring_v it_o in_o witness_n hierome_n ad_fw-la evag._n alexandria_n presbyteri_fw-la unum_fw-la ex_fw-la se_fw-la electum_fw-la in_o excelsiori_fw-la gradu_fw-la collocatum_fw-la evag._n episcopum_fw-la nominabant_fw-la quomodo_fw-la si_fw-la exercitus_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la faceret_fw-la aut_fw-la diaconi_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la archidiaconum_n the_o presbyter_n of_o alexandria_n do_v call_v he_o their_o bishop_n who_o they_o have_v choose_v from_o among_o themselves_o and_o place_v in_o a_o high_a degree_n as_o if_o a_o army_n shall_v make_v a_o emperor_n or_o the_o deacon_n a_o archdeacon_n ambrose_n upon_o the_o four_o of_o the_o ephesian_n tell_v we_o prius_fw-la it_o be_v do_v by_o a_o council_n and_o although_o he_o neither_o name_v the_o time_n nor_o place_n of_o the_o council_n yet_o ascribe_v it_o to_o a_o council_n he_o grant_v it_o not_o to_o be_v apostolical_a this_o give_v occasion_n to_o other_o to_o fix_v it_o upon_o custom_n as_o hieronym_n in_o tit._n and_o august_n epist._n 19_o secundùm_fw-la honorum_fw-la vocabula_fw-la quae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la usus_fw-la obtinuit_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la presbyterio_n major_a est_fw-la and_o have_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o prelacy_n have_v the_o seal_n and_o confirmation_n of_o divine_a or_o apostolical_a authority_n gregory_n nazianzen_n will_v never_o in_o such_o a_o patheticke_a manner_n have_v wish_v the_o abolition_n of_o it_o 28._o as_o he_o do_v in_o his_o 28._o oration_n and_o now_o where_o be_v that_o acknowledgement_n 21.22_o and_o conveyance_n of_o imparity_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o say_v this_o remonstrant_a be_v derive_v from_o the_o apostle_n hand_n and_o deduce_v in_o a_o uninterrupted_a line_n unto_o this_o day_n where_o be_v it_o we_o find_v no_o such_o imparity_n deliver_v from_o apostolical_a hand_n nor_o acknowledge_v in_o apostolical_a write_n yet_o have_v there_o be_v such_o a_o acknowledgement_n and_o conveyance_n of_o imparity_n how_o this_o shall_v have_v be_v deduce_v to_o we_o in_o a_o uninterrupted_a line_n we_o know_v not_o unless_o our_o bishop_n will_v draw_v the_o line_n of_o their_o pedigree_n through_o the_o loin_n of_o antichrist_n and_o join_v issue_n and_o mingle_v blood_n with_o rome_n prius_fw-la which_o it_o seem_v they_o will_v rather_o do_v then_o lose_v this_o plea_n for_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d their_o tyrannical_a prerogative_n as_o nazianzen_n call_v it_o suffer_v we_o therefore_o humble_o to_o appeal_v to_o your_o honour_n whether_o this_o remonstrant_a have_v not_o give_v sentence_n against_o himself_o who_o be_v so_o confident_a of_o the_o evidence_n of_o his_o cause_n that_o he_o do_v not_o fear_v to_o say_v if_o there_o can_v be_v better_a evidence_n under_o heaven_n for_o any_o matter_n of_o fact_n then_o there_o be_v for_o his_o episcopacy_n 22._o let_v episcopacy_n before_o ever_o abandon_v out_o of_o the_o church_n of_o god._n sect_n vii_o yet_o it_o seem_v himself_o in_o the_o height_n of_o his_o confidence_n be_v not_o without_o jealousy_n of_o some_o thing_n may_v be_v speak_v against_o his_o cause_n therefore_o he_o seem_v to_o hear_v what_o be_v speak_v against_o it_o 23._o that_o the_o apostle_n bishop_n and_o we_o be_v two_o there_o be_v no_o other_o than_o a_o parochial_a pastor_n a_o preach_a presbyter_n without_o
inequality_n without_o any_o rule_n over_o his_o brethren_n we_o claim_v a_o eminent_a superiority_n and_o a_o power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n unknown_a to_o the_o primitive_a time_n that_o this_o which_o he_o suppose_v he_o hear_v we_o say_v be_v scripture_n truth_n we_o have_v show_v already_o etc._n etc._n that_o there_o be_v a_o parity_n between_o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n and_o that_o eminent_a superiority_n and_o power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o our_o bishop_n claim_n be_v unknown_a to_o scripture_n and_o be_v now_o prepare_v by_o god_n assistance_n to_o prove_v it_o be_v unknown_a to_o primitive_a time_n but_o how_o do_v this_o remonstrant_a meet_a with_o this_o reply_n 23._o alas_o alas_o how_o good_a people_z may_v be_v abuse_v by_o misinformation_n it_o seem_v the_o man_n judged_n this_o reply_n so_o poor_a as_o in_o his_o thought_n it_o be_v more_o worthy_a of_o his_o pity_n then_o of_o his_o pain_n to_o answer_v or_o rather_o know_v there_o be_v more_o in_o this_o reply_n than_o he_o know_v how_o to_o answer_v and_o therefore_o wave_v it_o with_o his_o rhetoric_n and_o this_o we_o rather_o think_v because_o he_o know_v but_o little_a in_o antiquity_n that_o know_v not_o that_o there_o be_v so_o vast_a a_o difference_n between_o our_o bishop_n and_o those_o that_o be_v not_o only_o in_o the_o apostle_n day_n who_o we_o have_v prove_v to_o be_v undistinguished_a from_o presbyter_n but_o those_o bishop_n that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n 400_o year_n after_o when_o there_o begin_v to_o be_v some_o discrimination_n that_o episcopacy_n may_v well_o be_v liken_v to_o the_o ship_n argo_n that_o be_v so_o often_o repair_v as_o there_o be_v nothing_o leave_v of_o the_o first_o material_n yet_o still_o it_o challenge_v the_o first_o name_n which_o difference_n we_o spread_v before_o your_o honour_n in_o three_o particular_n first_o in_o point_n of_o election_n to_o their_o office_n second_o in_o point_n of_o execution_n of_o 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