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A33359 Diocesan churches not yet discovered in the primitive times, or, A defence of the answer to Dr. Stillingfleets allegations out of antiquity for such churches against the exceptions offered in the preface to a late treatise called A vindication of the primitive church, where what is further produced out of Scripture and antient authors for diocesan churches is also discussed. Clarkson, David, 1622-1686. 1682 (1682) Wing C4571; ESTC R16204 84,843 132

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that_o of_o felix_n say_v to_o do_v the_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n under_o decimus_n another_o presbyter_n a_o thing_n unheard_a of_o in_o those_o time_n but_o let_v we_o take_v it_o as_o we_o find_v it_o and_o upon_o the_o very_a slender_a reason_n allege_v against_o goulartius_n who_o be_v of_o another_o judgement_n believe_v that_o he_o be_v a_o priest_n in_o some_o village_n belong_v to_o caldonius_n his_o diocese_n 507._o diocese_n pag._n 506._o 507._o and_o that_o order_n for_o the_o presbyter_n from_o their_o church_n to_o repair_v to_o their_o proper_a bishop_n for_o chrism_n in_o africa_n 36._o africa_n con._n 4._o can._n 36._o in_o spain_n 20._o spain_n tol._n 1_o cap._n 20._o and_o in_o france_n 3._o france_n vascon_n can._n 3._o to_o these_o be_v add_v for_o further_a evidence_n the_o church_n say_v without_o ground_n to_o be_v many_o belong_v to_o hippo_n diaeritorum_fw-la also_o the_o church_n of_o thyana_n belong_v to_o
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when_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o presbyter_n of_o that_o church_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rule_v that_o church_n with_o he_o it_o be_v the_o same_o word_n that_o the_o govern_n of_o church_n by_o other_o bishop_n be_v express_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o alexander_n say_v of_o narcissus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 11_o 〈◊〉_d euseb_n l._n 6._o c_o 11_o it_o import_v no_o less_o than_o praesidere_fw-la and_o be_v ascribe_v to_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n joint_o by_o tertullian_n 39_o tertullian_n apol._n c._n 39_o cyprian_n 3._o cyprian_n lib._n 1._o ep._n 3._o and_o firmilian_a 75_o firmilian_a ep._n 75_o hence_o the_o presbyter_n be_v frequent_o say_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o the_o bishop_n 42._o bishop_n theod._n hist_o l._n 4._o c._n 8._o epiphan_n she_o 42._o for_o then_o the_o govern_v power_n of_o bishop_n be_v but_o count_v a_o ministry_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 260._o 〈◊〉_d isidore_n lib._n 4._o ep._n 260._o and_o the_o presbyter_n fellow_n minister_n with_o he_o and_o joint_a administrator_n in_o the_o government_n they_o be_v style_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 7._o 〈◊〉_d naz._n orat._n 1._o orat._n 7._o fellow_n pastor_n they_o do_v not_o then_o dream_v that_o a_o bishop_n be_v sole_a pastor_n of_o many_o church_n they_o be_v also_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v no_o less_o than_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a._n 〈◊〉_d ignat._n ad_fw-la tral_n in_o chrysost_n tom_n 7._o hom._n ζ._o a._n for_o the_o presbyter_n have_v their_o throne_n with_o the_o bishop_n so_o nazianzen_n speak_v of_o basil_n when_o ordain_v presbyter_n as_o promote_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o sacred_a throne_n of_o the_o presbyter_n 20._o presbyter_n orat._n 20._o they_o be_v also_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1._o s_o chyys_n in_o tim._n hom._n 1._o but_o further_a evidence_n be_v needless_a though_o abundance_n may_v be_v produce_v since_o the_o great_a patron_n of_o episcopacy_n seem_v not_o to_o question_v it_o that_o the_o church_n be_v govern_v in_o common_a and_o the_o bishop_n be_v to_o do_v nothing_o of_o importance_n without_o the_o presbyter_n it_o be_v acknowledge_v by_o bishop_n bilson_n 11._o bilson_n perpet_n govern_n cap._n 11._o bishop_n downham_n 8._o downham_n defence_n lib._n 3._o l._n 1._o c._n 8._o bishop_n hall_n assert_n it_o as_o that_o which_o be_v universal_o accord_v by_o all_o antiquity_n that_o all_o thing_n in_o the_o ancient_a church_n be_v order_v and_o transact_v by_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o presbyter_n 47._o presbyter_n iren._n p._n 47._o mr._n thorndike_n prove_v at_o large_a that_o the_o government_n of_o church_n pass_v in_o common_a govern_n common_a prim._n govern_n primate_n usher_v more_o succinct_o but_o effectual_o episcopacy_n effectual_o reduct_v of_o episcopacy_n add_v but_o dr._n st._n who_o both_o assert_n and_o prove_v it_o 356._o it_o iren._n pag._n 354._o 355._o 356._o there_o be_v still_o one_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n which_o rule_v all_o the_o several_a congregation_n of_o those_o city_n in_o common_a of_o which_o the_o several_a presbyter_n of_o the_o congregation_n be_v member_n and_o in_o which_o the_o bishop_n act_v as_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o senate_n for_o the_o better_a govern_v the_o affair_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n let_v i_o add_v when_o the_o church_n be_v so_o multiply_v in_o city_n and_o territory_n as_o that_o it_o be_v requisite_a to_o divide_v they_o into_o parish_n and_o constitute_v several_a church_n the_o bishop_n be_v not_o the_o proper_a ruler_n or_o pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a precinct_n and_o the_o church_n in_o it_o or_o of_o any_o church_n but_o one_o the_o parish_n or_o church_n be_v divide_v among_o presbyter_n and_o bishop_n they_o have_v their_o several_a distinct_a cure_n and_o charge_n the_o bishop_n peculiar_a charge_n be_v the_o ecclesia_fw-la principalis_fw-la the_o chief_a parish_n or_o church_n so_o call_v or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o presbyter_n perform_v all_o office_n in_o their_o several_a cure_n and_o order_v all_o affair_n which_o do_v particular_o concern_v the_o church_n where_o they_o be_v incumbent_n those_o that_o be_v of_o more_o common_a concern_n be_v order_v by_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n together_o and_o thus_o it_o be_v in_o the_o bishop_n church_n or_o parish_n he_o perform_v all_o office_n administer_v all_o ordinance_n of_o worship_n himself_o or_o by_o presbyter_n join_v with_o he_o as_o assistant_n he_o be_v to_o attend_v this_o particular_a cure_n constant_o he_o be_v not_o allow_v to_o be_v absent_a no_o not_o under_o pretence_n of_o take_v care_n for_o some_o other_o church_n if_o he_o have_v any_o business_n there_o which_o particular_o concern_v he_o he_o be_v to_o make_v quick_a dispatch_n and_o not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o zonaras_n stay_v there_o with_o the_o neglect_n of_o his_o proper_a flock_n this_o be_v all_o evident_a by_o a_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n a_o rursum_fw-la 71._o r_o in_o zona_fw-la n._n 77_o in_o code_n 71._o placuit_fw-la ut_fw-la nemini_fw-la sit_fw-la facultas_fw-la relicta_fw-la principali_fw-la cathedra_fw-la ad_fw-la aliquam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la in_o diocesi_fw-la constitutam_fw-la se_fw-la confer_v vel_fw-la in_o re_fw-mi propria_fw-la diutius_fw-la quam_fw-la oportet_fw-la constitutum_fw-la curam_fw-la vel_fw-la frequentationem_fw-la propriae_fw-la cathedrae_fw-la negligere_fw-la of_o this_o church_n or_o parish_n he_o be_v the_o proper_a pastor_n or_o ruler_n call_v there_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o elsewhere_o 53._o elsewhere_o can._n 53._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o contradistinction_n to_o other_o part_n of_o the_o precinct_n call_v here_o diocese_n and_o the_o people_n of_o it_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o ancient_a canonist_n loc_n canonist_n zona_fw-la in_o loc_n his_o proper_a flock_n or_o people_n his_o own_o
special_a charge_n this_o be_v the_o particular_a church_n under_o his_o personal_a government_n but_o he_o be_v not_o ruler_n of_o the_o precinct_n or_o any_o other_o church_n in_o it_o save_v only_o in_o common_a and_o in_o conjunction_n with_o the_o other_o presbyter_n who_o joint_o take_v cognizance_n of_o what_o in_o his_o church_n or_o they_o be_v of_o great_a or_o more_o general_a consequence_n and_o concern_v the_o whole_a and_o give_v order_n in_o it_o by_o common_a consent_n and_o while_o this_o be_v the_o form_n of_o government_n if_o there_o have_v be_v as_o many_o church_n there_o thus_o associate_v as_o optatus_n in_o the_o four_o age_n say_v there_o be_v at_o rome_n or_o far_o more_o they_o can_v not_o make_v a_o diocesan_n church_n unless_o a_o diocesan_n and_o a_o presbyterian_a church_n be_v all_o one_o for_o this_o be_v plain_o a_o presbyterian_a church_n the_o ancient_a presbytery_n differ_v from_o the_o modern_a but_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o small_a moment_n in_o those_o their_o precedent_n be_v fix_v and_o constant_a in_o these_o common_o though_o not_o always_o circular_a the_o presbytery_n in_o scotland_n comprise_v some_o twelve_o some_o twenty_o some_o more_o church_n their_o moderator_n be_v at_o first_o and_o for_o some_o year_n circular_a king_n james_n afterward_o anno_fw-la 1606_o 559._o 1606_o hist_o p._n 559._o will_v have_v they_o to_o be_v constant_a and_o so_o it_o be_v order_v yet_o when_o they_o be_v fix_v no_o man_n ever_o count_v these_o presbytery_n to_o be_v diocesan_n church_n the_o church_n of_o geneva_n consist_v of_o twenty_o four_o parish_n govern_v in_o common_a by_o a_o presbytery_n with_o a_o moderator_n who_o be_v sometime_o change_v sometime_o continue_v for_o life_n calvin_n be_v precedent_n while_o he_o live_v yet_o that_o of_o geneva_n be_v not_o wont_a to_o be_v take_v for_o a_o diocesan_n church_n nor_o be_v those_o ancient_a church_n such_o while_o they_o be_v govern_v not_o by_o one_o bishop_n but_o by_o a_o senate_n of_o presbyter_n where_o he_o preside_v as_o in_o the_o council_n of_o constantinople_n all_o thing_n in_o the_o province_n be_v say_v to_o be_v govern_v not_o by_o the_o metropolitan_a but_o by_o the_o provincial_a synod_n 8._o synod_n can._n 2._o soc._n l._n 5._o cap._n 8._o final_o the_o presbyter_n be_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n acknowledge_v to_o have_v have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n both_z as_o to_o the_o ministration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o the_o exercise_n of_o government_n and_o censure_n this_o power_n they_o exercise_v either_o joint_o in_o conjunction_n with_o the_o bishop_n and_o senate_n of_o presbyter_n or_o distinct_o in_o the_o particular_a church_n whereof_o they_o have_v the_o charge_n the_o former_a power_n concern_v the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v not_o question_v nor_o be_v there_o any_o ground_n to_o question_n the_o latter_a if_o some_o be_v not_o sway_v more_o by_o the_o practice_n of_o their_o own_o time_n than_o the_o principle_n and_o declaration_n of_o the_o ancients_n chrysostom_n ascribe_v to_o presbyter_n not_o only_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o power_n of_o order_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o power_n of_o government_n f_o giving_z this_o as_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o 11._o in_o 1_o tim._n jom_n 11._o apostle_n give_v the_o same_o rule_n for_o the_o order_n both_o of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n there_o be_v but_o little_a difference_n betwixt_o they_o say_v he_o for_o they_o be_v ordain_v both_o to_o the_o teach_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o rule_v of_o the_o church_n now_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d denote_v jurisdiction_n or_o presidentiam_fw-la cum_fw-la potestate_fw-la and_o be_v as_o hesychius_n render_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v plain_a in_o chrysostome_n himself_o he_o tell_v we_o the_o apostle_n paul_n have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 25._o 〈◊〉_d in_o 1_o cor._n hom._n 23._o &_o hom_o 25._o which_o he_o elsewhere_o express_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 25._o 〈◊〉_d in_o 2_o cor._n hom._n 25._o and_o speak_v of_o moses_n he_o say_v it_o be_v wonderful_a that_o he_o who_o be_v to_o be_v a_o ruler_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v be_v bear_v at_o such_o a_o time_n 16._o time_n in_o act._n hom._n 16._o theophilact_fw-mi make_v the_o difference_n as_o little_a between_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n and_o ascribe_v as_o much_o power_n to_o the_o late_a almost_o in_o the_o same_o word_n tim._n word_n in_o 1_o tim._n so_o theodoret_n declare_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d jurisdiction_n to_o belong_v to_o every_o presbyter_n 19_o presbyter_n in_o 1_o tim._n 5._o 19_o against_o a_o elder_a especial_o no_o less_o than_o two_o witness_n must_v be_v admit_v because_o he_o have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n and_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o often_o grieve_v delinquent_n they_o be_v ill_o affect_v to_o he_o will_v be_v apt_a to_o bring_v false_a accusation_n and_o this_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d include_v in_o the_o presbyter_n office_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o nazzanzen_n speak_v and_o much_o more_o to_o that_o purpose_n 1._o purpose_n orat._n 1._o and_o beside_o many_o other_o passage_n of_o like_a import_n the_o title_n of_o governor_n be_v all_o a_o long_a in_o ancient_a writer_n give_v to_o presbyter_n and_o all_o the_o expression_n which_o signify_v authority_n and_o government_n be_v ascribe_v to_o they_o thereby_o those_o that_o will_v curtail_v their_o power_n and_o make_v it_o no_o more_o of_o old_a than_o it_o be_v now_o be_v not_o a_o little_a encumber_a to_o extricate_v themselves_o a_o distinction_n be_v devise_v of_o a_o power_n internal_a and_o external_a the_o former_a they_o will_v allow_v to_o presbyter_n in_o their_o respective_a church_n not_o the_o late_a but_o this_o be_v devise_v to_o disentangle_v themselves_o and_o salve_v the_o deviation_n and_o irregularity_n of_o late_a time_n not_o that_o there_o be_v any_o ground_n for_o it_o in_o antiquity_n for_o the_o high_a act_n of_o that_o external_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n be_v excommunication_n and_o if_o this_o be_v in_o the_o presbyter_n power_n of_o old_a no_o other_o act_n of_o that_o power_n will_v or_o can_v in_o reason_n be_v deny_v they_o but_o this_o the_o ancients_n ascribe_v to_o they_o so_o jerome_n heliodorum_n jerome_n ad_fw-la heliodorum_n mihi_fw-la ante_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la sedere_fw-la non_fw-la licet_fw-la illi_fw-la si_fw-la peccavero_fw-la licet_fw-la i_o tradere_fw-la satanae_fw-la ad_fw-la interritum_fw-la carnis_fw-la ut_fw-la spiritus_fw-la salvus_fw-la sit_fw-la chrysostome_n threaten_v some_o of_o his_o auditory_a while_o he_o be_v a_o presbyter_n to_o excommunicate_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d matth._n 〈◊〉_d hom._n 17._o in_o matth._n to_o wave_v all_o of_o like_a nature_n insist_v on_o by_o other_o justinian_n in_o the_o 6_o age_n signify_v plain_o that_o not_o only_a bishop_n but_o presbyter_n might_a excommunicate_a offender_n in_o his_o constitution_n he_o forbid_v bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o exclude_v any_o from_o communion_n till_o such_o cause_n be_v declare_v for_o which_o the_o canon_n appoint_v it_o to_o be_v do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n and_o will_v have_v the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n rescind_v which_o be_v pass_v by_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n without_o cause_n 11._o cause_n novel_a 123._o c._n 11._o in_o the_o code_n both_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n be_v forbid_v to_o excommunicate_v in_o certain_a case_n and_o then_o mention_n the_o case_n for_o which_o they_o must_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d although_o they_o have_v be_v accustom_v to_o it_o clericis_fw-la it_o lex_fw-la 39_o sec._n 2._o tit._n de_fw-fr episc_n &_o clericis_fw-la now_o while_o presbyter_n have_v this_o power_n there_o can_v be_v no_o diocesan_n church_n whether_o they_o exercise_v it_o in_o common_a as_o be_v show_v before_o or_o particular_o in_o their_o several_a church_n as_o will_v now_o be_v make_v apparent_a for_o by_o virtue_n of_o these_o power_n the_o presbyter_n be_v real_o bishop_n though_o they_o have_v not_o always_o the_o title_n yea_o they_o be_v call_v bishop_n as_o a_o learned_a prelatist_n observe_v by_o the_o ancient_a author_n clemens_n ignatius_n tertullian_n 74._o tertullian_n thornd_v prim._n govern._n pag._n 73._o 74._o and_o have_v frequent_o the_o name_n and_o title_n which_o some_o will_v appropriate_v to_o bishop_n and_o which_o the_o father_n use_n to_o express_v the_o office_n of_o bishop_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d praepositi_fw-la antistites_fw-la praesidentes_fw-la 68_o praesidentes_fw-la idem_fw-la service_n pag._n 68_o etc._n etc._n and_o so_o there_o be_v as_o many_o bishop_n real_o in_o every_o diocese_n as_o there_o be_v particular_a church_n and_o presbyter_n there_o and_o well_o may_v they_o be_v say_v to_o be_v real_o the_o same_o since_o