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A67646	A defence of the innocency of the lives, practice, and doctrine of the English preists [sic], Jesuits, and papists relating to the crimes of murther and treason, vnjustly charged on them by E.C. in his narrative wherein are discouered his grosse mistakes, his wilfull falsifications, his shamefull falshoodes, and his groundlesse vniust accusations of the English papists.	Warner, John, 1628-1692.	1680 (1680)	Wing W908A; ESTC R221952	27,739	33

God his Prince haue furnisht him with for the defence of his ship althô by that meanes some Algerins be killed their souls lost for Christ's law would be intolerable to Absolute Powers if it enjoined the contrary if I say you answer so you say as much as Soto says Not to tire my Reader with vnecessary matter repetitions I omit what you cite out of Nauar Grassü Bonacina One word suffices for all either they truly approue of Murther or they do not If they do we disown them so you haue no right to charge their sentiments on vs. CHAPTER 4. Protestants both teach practice sedition Rebellion IT is with the greatest reluctance imaginable that I rake in this kennel whereof the fumes stench is able to infect a People so susceptible of the infection as English are Jt were to be wisht these seditious maximes had neuer appeared in the world or that vpon their first appearance that seuerity had been vsed on them which the Roman Senat practised on Monsters that they had been transported out of the fight of men butyed in perpetuall obliuion The G●nerals of the Iesuites haue often forbidden their subjects to treate of any of these seditious points least by writing of them their memory might be preserued which is always dangerous when People are disposed to practice them And I doubt not but experience will sh●w that is the most prudent way to preuent all mischeife Yet to comply with your importunity I will follow encounter you in this I owne that there haue been excesses on both sides in their writers whose zeale for the cause they embraced was greater then their Discretion Yet the fault is lesse in those who stand only for what was of old beleiued and practised then in those who would haue all things changed according to their phansy therfore the excesses on the Catholicks side are more excusable yet we shall find the Protestants more pragmatical more refractory to Superiours more violent more seditious Rebellious then Catholicks without comparison I will begin with your Doctrine then passe to your practice The roote of all our seditious maximes is that detestable Proposition of your Patriark Witlef no Prince nor Prelat nor Bishop continues such in state of mortal sin Concil Constant f. 8. of which Melanction sayd Comment in Polit. Wicles caused much mischeif by teaching that those loose all Authority who haue not the holy Ghost What Oates hath the impudence to say euen to his Majesty is much worse for he requires not only that Princes Liue vertucusly that is haue the Holy Ghost but also punish all who do not vnder paine of Deposition Goodman in his Apology is of the same mind Bad Princes according to the Law of God ought to be deposed sayd he in case the Magistrates neglect to doe their Duty the People haue as free liberty to do it as if there were no Magistrates at all in those circumstances of time God enlargeth them with liberty to vse the sword Caluin in 6. Dan. v. 22. 25. The Kings of the Earth doe depriue themselues of Power when they make head against the King of Heauen Yea they are vnworthy to be numbred amongst men therefore we are rather to spit in their faces then to obey them Knox If Princes gouerne tyrannically against God his Truth their subjects are absolued from their Oath of Fidelity But is this freeing from their oath all No For Buccanan says The common People haue right to dispose of the scepters of Kingdomes at their pleasure Again the People have Power to Iudge of the life of their Kings Yet more It were to be wisht that rewards were appointed for such as kill Tyrants as there are for such as kill wolues Goodman Kings haue right to raigne from the People who vpon occasion can also reuoke it In fine Osiander says it is the common opinion of Wiclef's followers that the People may as they shall pleafe punish their Princes who offend These many other seditious Doctrines may be found in the Protestants Apology And if any desire to see their number encreased by modern Factious Spirits he shall see enough in the ordinary Gazets viz that the King is one of the three states that the house of Commens made him what he is that it is not treason to beare armes against the King prouided it be not against the three states That the Parliament CAN DISPOSE of the SVCCESSION of the CROWN many such maximes which you dayly aduance of as malignant a Nature as any before cited Here I must obserue a remarkable difference betwixt Catholicks you Catholicks do not follow these Principles I defy you to name any one Catholick aliue who hath taught any of them you retaine them still or rather grow worse worse Which is of no small consequence to discouer what party is dangerous to the state which guilty of treasonable maximes I come now to your practice which giues reason to say you came into the world like the Cadmean brood all armed that many or rather all your Princes felt your armes assoon as they saw your faces In Geneua you cast off the Authority of your Bishop Prince of the town In higher Germany you shaked the authority of Charles V. Emperour In lower Germany you withdrew many Prouinces from the obedience of their King You vsurped vpon Rudolphus the Emperour in Transiluania vpon Christiernus in Denmarck vpon Sigimund in Swedeland You fought for the Crowne of France against Francis II. Charles IX Henry III. in the time of Charles IX you coined mony in the name of one you held for King says Cardinal Richelieu Let vs come to our deare Country In England you set vp Iane Grey against the lawfull heyre queene Mary You bore armes against another Mary lawfull queen of Scotland brought her into restraint forced her to depose her self to fly her country not content with keeping her Prisoner nineteen yeares at last you put her barbarously to a violent death Your perpetual insolencies against her son Grandson your encroachments vpon the Royul Prerogatiue are written with a Beame of the sun Your whole proceedings against Charles 1. of Glorious memory are so knowne that I need not to mind you of them so detestable that I need no Art to make them appeare odious I defy you to shew that euer any Catholick designed vpon his Souveraigne what you haue lately acted on yours Now with what face can you reproach vnto vs any seditious Doctrin whilst you teach much worse haue executed things more execrable then euer any Catholick dreamt of Remoue this beame out of your eye before you take notice of a moth in ours which yet we haue long since remoued as I sayd CHAPTER 5. English Catholicks teach no seditious Doctrines E. C. pag. 4. describes vs to be men who sweepe away whole townes Citties Nations subuert sundamental

the canon we do not think that God hath giuen vs any leaue to sin In the Glosse when the Action is dubious whether it be good or bad w● must judge fauourably of the Pope If it be of its own nature bad as Adultery or MVRTHER we must own that he sins in it althô there be no man to whom he ought to be accused by reason of the dignity of the first Chair You see sir that the glosse says iust the contrary to what you cite out of it for it says the Pope sins by murther you make it say murther is no sin in a Pope E. C. pag. 6. As yet we haue not proued vpon them their KING KILLING doctrine pray let one quotation supply for all I think it is such an one as is sull home to the Point Suarez l. 6. ad M. B. Regem 1.24 says A King if he be once excommunicated may be deposed or slain by any person whomsoeuer that with impunity Therefor it is past all manner of doubt but that they h●ld it exreamely Lawfull Answer It is past all manner of doubt that you hold it extreamely Lawfull to tell any kind of lyes falsify any Authours you please prouided it may concontribute to charge some odious opinion on Papists how contrary soeuer it be to the Authours you cite Suarez hauing written that Proposition immediatly addes Haec Propositio simpliciter sumpta est falsissima This Proposition absolutely taken is most false What say you Christian Reader is this fair play what cannot these men proue at this rate out of any Authour by making him say what he condemnes condemn what he says What credit do they deserue who discouer so little sense of Truth honesty shame of men or feare of God These are his proofes of our holding Murther to be Lawfull which he doth not 1. because there is not one word cited out of any English Catholick 2. Nor out of any other aliue 3. He falsitys impudently all he cites CHAPTER 6. Catholicks practice no Treason E. C. pag. 7. What was the offence of the Cittizens of Toulouse Auignon when P. Gregory IX Set Lewis the French King to war against them their Earl Raymundus without cause but only that of their Religion where the sayd King dyed at the siege Answ Here are two greate vntruths The first that there was no cause of that war besides Religion There were two wars made vpon the Albigenses The first by Simon Monfort with the forces of the King of France Lewis VIII Soveraign Lord of the Earle of Toulouse for hauing killed an Embassador or Legat against the law of nations The second by Lewis himselfe for their Herely Rebellion So neither war was on the score of Religion purely The second vntruth is that the King of France dyed at the siege He finisht the war vnited those Countryes to the crowne on his way home he dyed at Monpensier in Auvergn See De Serres a Huguenot E. C. p. 7. You giue many instances of crueltys shewed towards Hereticks in Cabrieras Merindol Prouenc Vassy Germany the Lowcountryes c. To all I answer they were rebels stood in open defiance of the Ancient Laws establisht of their Princes commands E. C. p. 7. Pray for the fuller satisfaction in this thing beside D. Fowlis his History of their Rebellions Treasons read the vngratefull be hauiour of the Papists Priests towards the Imperial Indulgent crown of England Answ I will not vndertake to vindicate the actions of all Papists that haue been I speake for those aliue If any here to fore were really guilty of Treason I excuse them not yet the late proceedings against Catholicks althô certainly Innocent yet charged with the most heauy Accusations imaginable ground a suspition that their Ancestors may haue had hard measure in that kind Howeuer if our fore fathers left any blot on their Religion by some illegall attempts Catholicks since haue washt it out with their Bloud And I pray God with all my hart that all Protestants were as faith full to the Royal interest as Papists are In your pages 8. 9. I find nothing worth mentioning but a saying of Aeneas Syluius that nothing is giuen at Rome but for mony not euen jmposition of hands what you cite out of Caramuel that a Priest may kill a Detractor As to Aeneas Syluius he recalled all those writings being made Pope Pius II. This is so fals that Absolution which is one imposition of hands was neuer refused any man vpon score of Pouerty And as for Caramuel that proposition is condemned by Alexander VIII Caramuel hath no credit euen in his own order he is a Bernardin his writings being forbidden amongst them vnder great Penaltys E. C. p. 10. The Pope is called by Papists our Lord God the Pope Answer those words are found but once that in a Glossa which sort of writings are little regarded by our Divines Howeuer you haue no reason to reproach vs with that expression who say the same of all Kings pag. 16. of all men pag. 21. E. C. p. 11. Bellarmin says God hath giuen to the Pope the Power to make sin to be no sin no sin to be sin Answer this imports no more then that God gaue the Pope to oblige by his laws the conscience of the Faithfull in things indifferent viz eating flesh on a wednesday which of it self is no sin but is a sin when forbidden But Bellarmin expressely says that the Pope cannot make Lawfull a thing of it self cuil as Theft or Murther nor vnlawfull a thing of it self good as the loue of God E. C. p. 11. What could stirr the Roman Catholicks vp to that dreadfull Rebellion massacre in Ireland where in cold Blood were murdered aboue 100000. Protestants without the least prouocation but only the Indispensable necessity to kill Hereticks Answer The late King knew other reasons These are his words The preposterous vigour vnreasonable seuerity which some men carryed before them in England was not the least incenture that kinaled blew vp into those horrid flames the despair of discontent which wanted not predisposed fewel for Rebellion in Ireland where Dispayre being added to their former discontens the Feares of vtter extirpation to their wonted oppressions it was easy to prouoke to an open Rebellion a People prone enough to breake out to all exorbitant violence both by some Principles of their Religion the natural desire of Liberty both to exempt themselues from their present restraints to preuent those after rigours where with they saw themselues apparently threatned by the Couetous zeale vn●haritable fury of some men who think it a greate argument of the Truth of their Religion to endure no other but their own The Rebells were exasperated to the most desperate Resolutions Actions by being threatned with all extremitys not only to the knowne heads cheise Incendiarys but euen to the whole community