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A65833 The accuser of our brethren cast down in righteous judgment against that spirit of hellish jealousie vented in a great confused book, falsly entituled, The Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate and innovator, in five parts ; the fallacy and force whereof being herein clearly detected & justly repelled. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1681 (1681) Wing W1887; ESTC R19917 128,311 327

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