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A91250 Prynne the Member reconciled to Prynne the barrester. Or An ansvver to a scandalous pamphlet, intituled, Prynne against Prynne. Wherein is a cleare demonstration, that William Prynne, utter barrester of Lincolnes Inne, in his soveraigne power of parliaments and kingdomes, is of the same judgement with, and no wayes contradictory to William Prynne Esquire, a Member of the House of Commons in his memento. Wherein the unlawfullnesse of the proceedings against the King, and altering the present government is manifested out of his former writings and all cavils and calumnies of this scandalous pamphleteer fully answered. / By William Prynne Esquire, barrester at law, and a Member of the House of Commons. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1649 (1649) Wing P4043; Thomason E558_5; ESTC R203281 19,546 27

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PRYNNE The MEMBER reconciled to PRYNNE The BARRESTER OR An Answer to a Scandalous Pamphlet Intituled PRYNNE against PRYNNE Wherein is a cleare demonstration That William Prynne Vtter Barrester of Lincolnes Inne in his Soveraigne Power of Parliaments and Kingdomes is of the same Judgement with and no wayes contradictory to William Prynne Esquire A Member of the House of Commons in his MEMENTO Wherein the unlawfullnesse of the Proceedings against the King and altering the present Government is manifested out of his former writings and all cavils and calumnies of this scandalous Pamphleteer fully Answered By William Prynne Esquire Barrester at Law and a Member of the House of Commons Tit. 1. 12. 13. One of themselves even a Prophet of their owne said The Cretians ARE ALWAYES LYARS evill beasts slow Bellies This witnesse is true wherefore rebuke them sharply that they may be sound in the faith LONDON Printed Anno Dom. 1649. To the Reader Curteous Reader MEeting this morning with a printed Pamphlet intituled Prynne against Prynne Or the answeer of William Prynne Vtter-Barrester of Lincolnes Inne to a pamphlet lately published by william Prynne Esq a Member of the House of Commons intituled a breif Memento to the present unparliamentary I unto touching their present intentions and proceedings to Depose and Execute CHALES STEVVARD their lawfull Soveraigne with an Imprimatur of Theodore Iennings Jan. 25. 1648. prefixed to it written as I am credibly informed by a Colonell a Member of the Commons House and one of his Majesties present Judges to represent and render me an Apostate and turne-coate to the world like himselfe and to gaine some colour for this unjust and illegall proceedings if possible from my writings who ever from my Soule abominated and declared against them as Jesuiticall and Treasonable in all my writings I held it my duty to returne this short and speedy Answer thereunto both to vindicate my wounded reputation against all imputations of inconstancy and mutability in my principles or actions which have been alwayes loyall uniform ayming onely at the Common-good not vertiginous mutable perfidious and selfish as his and his Confederates appeare to all men It is Gods owne glory to be a Mal. 3. 6. unchangeable b Iam 1. 17. unvariable and without shadow of turning c Heb. 13. 8. yesterday to day and the same for ever d Camdens Elizabeth Speed Hollinshed SEMPER EADEM was Qu●een Elizabeths Motto and Semper idem shall be through Gods assisstance mine who as I am commanded by God himselfe to be e 1 Cor 15. 58. alwayes stedfast unmoveable and f Prov. 24 21. not to meddle or confederate with those who are given to change So I trust to manifest my selfe in this ensuing Tract in despite of calumny to be still the same I was heretofore both to the Kings and Kingdomes true and reall interest which now lye both at Stake likely to be speedily and irrecoverably lost by some false rooking Gamesters who play badly for themselves Which is the feare and apprehension of their and his poore Countries freind and wel-wisher for which he is once more like to become a Martyr January 29 ●648 William Prynne PRYNNE the Member reconciled to PRYNNE the BARRESTER HAd the Compi●er of the late absurd Pamphlet intituled Prynne against Prynne as many guts in his Braines as he hath in his Belly or as much Honesty Sincerity in his Head Heart as he hath disloyalty insincerity in both he could ●ot have been so irrationall or dishonest as to have published such a peece of Folly and Non-sence as this instead of answering the Memento which though a Right worshipfull Colonell and a Member too yet he dares not encounter his braines being all sunke into his guts his Pen as blunt as his sword that never yet slew nor wounded one Cavalier though he hath gained and received some thousand of pounds for his Grand Services in these late Warres When this Great Champion dare op●nly appeare in the field against any thing I have written with his name thereto affixed of which it seemes he is ashamed I dare assure him William Prynne the Barrester or William Prynne the Member will hand to hand encounter W. P. the Colonel or W. P. the Burgesse of W. though a Gyant in bulke but a Pigmy in most things else But to come briefly to the matter It is very true which he relates pag. 1. That William Prynne Esquire a Member of the House of Commons did in his Briefe Memento endeavour to diswade the rest of the Members sitting in Parliament from acting or proceeding against the King And had they been so provident wise and loyall as to have given an eare to his seasonable timely advise they had never plunged themselves the Kingdome into such difficulties and confusions as now they have done by their unjust and illegall tryall and condemnation of the King to have His head severed from his shoulders by a New erected high Court of Iustice without authority law justice or any legall or judiciall proceedings for which they found no warrant nor president in William Prynne the Barrester his Soverain Power of Parliaments Kingdomes but many arguments against and dehortations from it First The very Title of his Booke had the purblinde Pamphleter perused it might have deterred him and his fellow-members from such a ●esuiticall and popish proceeding to the eternall infamy and scandall of our Religion it is this The treachery and disloyalty of Papists to their Soveraignes in Doctrine and Practise together with the first part of the Soveraigne power of Parliaments and Kingdomes Wherein the Traiterous Antimonarchicall Doctrines practises and attempts of Papists upon the Persons Crowns Prerogatives of their Soveraignes with the dangerous designes affests and consequences of their present illegal arming and accesse to the Kings person by meanes of evil Councellors are briefly discovered The Iurisdiction Power priviledges claimed exercised by our popish Parliaments Prelates Lords and Commons in former ages exactly paralleld with those now claimed by the Lords and Com●mons in this present Parliament which are manifested to be far more loyall dutifull moderate more consistant with lesse invasive 〈◊〉 and destructive to the pretended Soveraigne power and Prerogative of the King then those in former ages And the High Court of Parliament proved by pregnant Reasons and Authorities to be the mos● soveraigne power of all other in this Kingdome c. By William Prynne Utter-Barrester of Lincolnes Inne with this License of the Commons House affixed to it It is this second day of May 1643. Ordered by the Committee of the House of Commons in Parliament for printing that this Booke intituled the Treachery and disloyal●y of papists to their Soveraigns c. be printed by Michael Sparke Seino● Iohn White Whence the Argument stands thus Master Prynne the Barrester though he mainteined the High Court of Parliament to be the most Soveraigne Power of all others in
this Kingdome in his Soveraigne Power of Parliaments yet he and the Committee of the Commons House which authotized it doth in the very Title of that Booke in expresse termes condemne the Papists and popish Parliaments of Treachery and Disloyalty to their Soveraignes both in Doctrine and practise and of Trayterous Antimonarchiall ●ractises and attempts upon the Persons Crownes and Prerogatives of their Kings in deposing and murdering them And manifests the Iurisdiction Power and priviledges claimed b● the Lords and Commons not the Commons alone without the Lords or the tenth part of the Commons under the Armies force whiles the rest are imprisoned and secluded by them to be farre more loyall dutifull and moderate then those claimed and exercised by our popi●● Parliaments Prelates Lords and Commons Ergo he refu●es William Prynne a Member of the House of Commons in his breife Memento to the present unparliamentary Iunto wherein he diswades them from their present dislo●all proceedings to depose and execute Charles Stewad their lawfull King as being a Iesuiticall and popish practise contrary to the practise and principles of all protestant Parliaments and the manifold Petitions Remonstrances Declarations Protestations Solemne Leagues Covenants and Engagement of this present Parliament Whether Prynne be against Prynne in this and whether Prynne the Barrester Member be not both unanimous against their proceedings herein let the world this ignorant mistaken Pamphleter now judge Secondly Mr. Prynne the Barrester in the foure first Pages of the first Part of his Soveraigne Power of Parliaments in as positive and earnest manner as can be condemnes and censures the Ies●its and Papists doctrines and practises in deposing and murdering Kings and Princes as treasonable damnable wicked and hereticall and particularly chargeth them for attempting to destroy and murder Hi● Majesty and 〈◊〉 ●osterity as well as Queene Elizabeth and King Iames alleaging many protestant Writers of our owne Church as Doctour Iohn Whi●●● Bishop Iewel Bishop Bilson and others condemning them for this their doctrine and practise which can stand neither with peace nor piety Ergo Mr. Prynne the Member who doth the very same in his Memento are both accorded and not against one another but both against this Pamphleters and his Confederares Iesuiticall popish Assertions and practise Adde hereunto that Mr. Prynne the Barrestet not onely in his Truth triumphing over falshood antiquity over novelty printed by Order of the Commons House 1644. and in his sword of Christian Magistracy supported Anno 1646. hath asserted the Power and Prerogative of Christian Princes and Kings as much as any man in Ecclesiasticall matters but in his third part of the Soveraign power of Parliaments and Kingdomes p. 62 63 determines thus Thirdly Neither is this any parcell of the Controversy between the King and Parliament Whether Subjects may lay violent hands upon the persons of their Princes wittingly or willingly To deprive them of their Lives or Liberties especially In cold blood when they do not actually nor personally assault their lives or chastityes or for any publike misdemeanours without a precedent sentence of imprisonment or death against them given judicially by the whole State or Realme As in s●me elections and Heathen Kingdome in 〈◊〉 times * where they have such authority to araigne or condemne them for all unan●mously disclaime yea abominate such trayterous practises and Iesuiticall positions as execrable and unchristian Fourthly Neither is this the thing in difference as most mistake it Whether the Parliament may lawfully raise an Army to goe immediately and directly against the person of the King to apprehend or offer violence to Him much lesse intentionally to destroy Him or to resist his owne Personall attempts against them even to the hazard of his life For * S●● 〈…〉 Collection of all Remonstrances c the Parliament and their Army too have in sundry Remonstrances Declarations Protestations and petitions renounced any such intention or designe at all for which there is no colour to charge them when neither the Parliament nor their forces in this their resistance have the least thought at all to offer any violence to the Kings owne person or to oppose his legall just soveraigne authority The very words and languages of Mr. Prynne the Member in his Memento who is still consonant to himselfe in both And p. 92. to 98. he addes 〈◊〉 proves * Cook 7. Report 〈◊〉 case of f. 11 P●il●● A●ch de 〈◊〉 Vinda●i c. 17● That hereditary Kings are Kings before their 〈…〉 coronation which is but a ceremony That it is false and 〈◊〉 to affirme that Heredit●ry Kings before their Coronations ti●● they are anoynted are not sacred nor exempt from violence That Saules person was sacred exempt from his Subjects violence not because he was anointed as if that onely did priviledge him but because he was a King appoynted by the Lord himselfe That these texts and speeches of David 1 Sam. 24. 6. 10. c. 26 v. 21. 23. 2 Sam. 1. 12. 16. The Lord forbid that I should doe this thing unto my Master the Lords anointed to stretch forth my hand against him seeing he is the Lords anointed I will not put forth my hand against my Lord for he is the Lords anointed And David said to Abishai when he would have slaine Saul Destroy him not for who can stretch forth his hand against the Lords anointed and be guiltlesse The Lord forbid that I should stretch forth my hand against the Lords anointed For wast thou not afraid to stretch forth thy hand against the Lords anointed Thy blood shall be upon thy head for thy mouth hath testified that thou hast sl●ine the Lords anointed c. Prove That Subiects ought not wilfully or purposely to murder or offer violence to the Person of their Kings especially in cold blood when they doe not actually assault them That David and his men might not with safe conscience stretch forth their hands nor rise up against their Soveraigne King Saul to assault or kill him thus in cold blood without any assault or present provocaetion which had been treachery and unpiety in a Sonne in Law a servant a subiect a successor who slew the Amalekite that came and brought him tidings of Sauls death together with his Crown and bracelet instead of giving him a reward a● he likewise * 〈…〉 put Baanah and Richab to death as Traytors who having murdered King Ishbosheth though his enemy and corrivall instead of rewarding them and hanged up their hands and feet because he reported himselfe had slaine him to gain a reward from David which concludes that it was not lawfull for any of Sauls own men to slay him no not in an exigent by his owne command Aud he concludes That the evasion of Doctor Ferne That Davids dem●●nor c. was extraordinary derogating exceedingly from the personall safety of Princes yea and exposing them to such perils as they have cause to con the Doctor small thankes for such a
it that will needs make Presidents to be rules and patternes Sure when we said That some Presidents were such as that they ought not to be rules for us to follow we might by any ingenious Reader with much more probability beene thought to have intended those of deposing Kings then to have said that with duty and modesty Kings might be disposed because we affirmed that we had not suffered such things to enter into our thoughts And although they would perswade his Majesty that there is little confidence to be placed in our Modesty and duty yet as God is witnes of our thoughts so shall our actions witnesse to all the world that to the honour of our Religion and of those that are most zealous in it so much strucken at by the Contrivers of that Declaration under odious names we shall suffer more from and for our Soveraign then we hope God will ever permit the mallice of wicked Councellors to put us to and though the happines of this and all Kingdomes dependeth cheifly upon God yet we acknowledge that it doth so mainly depend upon his Maj. and the Royall Branches of that Root That as we have heretofore so we shall hereafter esteem no hazard too great no● reproach too vile but that we shall willingly go through the one and undergo the other That we and the whole Kingdome may enjoy that happinesse which we cannot in an orderly way of providence expect from any other fountain or Streams then those from whence were the ●oyson of evill counsels once removed from about them wee doubt not but we and the whole Kingdom should be satisfied most abundantly Therefore Mr. Prynne the Barrester as well as M. Prynne the Member and both Houses of Parliament too are point blanke against the present arraigning deposing and executing of the King condemning it as a Popish and Iesuiticall Practise never owned but disclaimed by every Protestant Parliament and by this Parliament in two expresse Declarations two solemne Protestations and in the solemne League and Covenant since all which this Pamphleter tooke and assented to as readily as any other Members and therefore cannot excuse himselfe from most detestable prevarication and perjury in violating these his solemne Protestations League and Covenant with his Oathes of Supreamacy and Allegiance to boot which he hath oft times taken the guilt and infamy whereof must rest upon his conscience and eternally cry for vengeance against him unlesse he expiate it by timely and deep repentance Fourthly Mr. Prynne the Barrester in his Epistle to the Reader before his fourth Part thus expresseth himselfe For my own pa●e as I have alwayes been and euer shall be an Honour a Defender of Kings and Monarchy the best of Government whiles it keeps within the bounds which law and conscience have prescribed so I shall never so far degenerate below the duty of a man a Lawyer a Scholler a Christian as to misinforme or flatter either nor yet out of any popular vaine-glory court either Parliaments or people to the prejudice of KINGS IVST ROYALTIES but carry such an equall hand between them as shall doe right to both Injury to neither to preserve and support their just and legall Soveraigntyes jurisdictions Rights within their proper limits without tyrannicall invasions or seditions incroachments one upon another This is Mr Prynne the Barresters sence And in the third Part of his Soveraign Power of Parliaments and Kingdomes page 147. he concludes thus Let Gods curse and mens for ever rest upon all those who are in love with any warre especially a civill within their own dearest Countries bowells Or Dure abuse my loyull syncere Lucubrations to any disloyall sinister designes to the preiudice of their Soveraignes or the States wherein they live which he never published to countenance or encourage any tumultuous REBELLIOUS factions ambitions Trayterous Spirits to mutiny or Rebell against their Soveraigns but only out of a cordiall desire to effect such a speedy honourable safe religious sempeternall Peace between King and Parliament as all true Christian English hearts both cordially pray long for endeavour Ergo Mr. Prynne the Member and Barrester is still one and the same man an assertor of Monarchy and Loyalty and no wayes contradictory to himselfe in any of his writings and Gods curse and mans must rest upon this unpurified Pamphleter for his malicious perverting of his words against their scope and purpose to justifie the deposing and murthering of the King and altering of our Monarchy 5ly Mr. Prynne the Barrester neither in his 4. Part of the Soveraigne Power of Parliaments nor in his Appendix to them hath produced any one President no not of any one Popish Parliament or Kingdome that ever judicially condemned or executed their lawfull King were he never so Tyrannicall impious or flagitious much lesse any Protestant Parliament or Realme who condemne and abhor both the Doctrine and Practise of murthering or destroying their Kings as Jesuiticall Papall impious Heriticall and damnable abjured by the very Oath of Allegiance as he proves expresly Part. 1. p. 1. 2. 3. 4. Therefore Mr. Prynne the Member in his Memento is of the selfe same Judgement as he was in his Soveraigne power of Parliaments in both which this Pamphleter a Member of the high Court of Iustice who condemned the King to death may read his Neck-Verse and fatall destiny if he repent not All other Passages truly quoted out of Mr. Prynne the Barrester to prove the Soveraigne Power of Parliaments and Kingdoms not of a Peece of a Parliament or Kingdome much lesse of a ninth part of a Commons House sitting under a force who are neither a Parliament nor Kingdome Mr. Prynne the Member still averres in this and his owne genuine sence as they are printed in his Books not as they are mangled and misapplied by this idle Scribler to those few Commons now sitting p. 5. 6. c 2dly Whereas he alleageth p. 7. 8. 9. 10. That William Prynne the Member his first Argument against the Iunto is That their proceedings against the King is an Offence within the Statute of 25. E. 3. concerning Treason I William Prynne the Barrester doe remember that in the beginning of this late Warre the Cavaliers used the same Argument against the Parliaments raising Armes and I then made this Answer to it p. 107. of my said first Part That The Parliament and Whole Kingdome being the Highest Power cannot by any publike Acts or Votes of theirs consented to in Parliament become Traytors or guilty of High Treason against the King either by the Common Law or the Statute of 25. E. 3. c. 2. of Treasons which extends not to the whole Kingdom or Court of Parliament representing it of which no Treason was ever yet presumed c. William Prynne the Barrester and Member is still of the same opinion and not repugnant to him selfe who speaks there of a WHOLE KINGDOME AND COVRT OF PARLIAMENT as this * Page 5 6 8 9.
and crosseth the very practise and principles of the protestant Religion If so then both are alike within the intent and meaning of this Law and Oath though the Pope and his instruments be pincipally intended 2dly These clauses in the Oath That the Pope neither by himselfe nor with any other hath any power or authority to depose the King c. That I will bear true Allegiance to his Maiesty his Heirs and Successors and him and them will defend to the utter most of my power against all attempts whatsoever a universall affirmative from or by the Pope or any others which shall be made against his or their persons their Crown and Dignity by reason or colour of any such sentence or Declaration or otherwise Which last words in the dis-junctive coupled with the former generall ones and compared with the following clause And that neither the Pope nor any person whatsoever hath power to absolve me from this Oath or any part thereof c. and with the first branch of it I do truly and sincerely acknowledge professe testify and declare in my Conscience before God and the world that our Soveraigne Lord King Charles is lawfull and rightful King of this Realme and of all his Majesties Dominions and Countries with this addition that all Protestant Subjects are enjoyned to take this Oath as well as Papists and more especially every member of the Commons house of Parl. without taking whereof he is utterly disabled to be a Member Doe infalliby evidence that this Law and Oaths related not only though principally to the Popes Usurpations in this Realm but to all other Subjects usurpations to depose or murther the King by any usurped or pretended Authority or High Court of Justice whatsoever But that which clears it unanswerably is this That this very Act provides That every Gentleman or person of higher degree or any person or persons which hath born or shall bear any Office or place of Captain Leiutenant or any other place charge or Office in Camp army or Company of Soldiers or Conducters of Soldiers shall goe or passe voluntarily out of this Realme to serve any forreign Prince State or Potentate be it Protestant or Popish before that he shall become bound by obligation with two such suertyes as shall be alowed of by the Officers therein limited to take the same Bond unto our Sovereign Lord the Kings Majesty HIS HEIRES and SUCCESS●R in the sum of ●wenty pounds of currant English money at the least with condition to the effect following shall be a Felon The Tenour ●f which condition followeth viz. That if the within bounden shal not at any time thereafter be reconciled to the Pope or Sea of Rome nor Shall enter into or consent unto any practise plot or conspiracy whatsoever against the Kings maiesty his heirs and Successors or any of his or their Estate or Estates Realmes or Dominions but shall within convenient time after knowledg thereof had reveal and disclose to the Kings maiesty his heirs and Successors or some of the Lords of his or their Honourable Privy Councell all such practises plots and conspiracyes that then the said Obligation be voyd Which condition being generall extending to any Plot practise or conspiracy whatsoever against the King His Heirs and Successors or any of his or their Estate or estates Realms or Dominions without any limitation to the Pope or other sorraigne Prince State or Potentate or to popish Recusants only and reaching as well to plots practises and conspiracies by any Subjects whatsoever as well within the Realme as without be they protestants papist or whatsoever Sect or Religion fully clears and proves the Oath of Allegiance to extend though principally to the pope and forraign Princes and States and their Treasons and Conspiracies yet only unto them but likewise to the Treasons Plots Practises conspiracies by any subjects whatsoever within the realm to the presert disloyal votes acting Iesuitical proceedings of the members now sitting Thirdly For the pretended perverting of the words of this oath by Mr. Prynne viz Nor any other for nor with any other It is but the Printers oversight omission Nor doth it alter the sence in substance For if the Pope cannot joining with any other suppose the Members now sitting in the Commons house or the high Court of Iustice lawfully depose nor murther the King then certainly those Any other cannot lawfully depose nor murther him without the Pope within the true meaning of this Oath under pain of deepest perjury and Treason to boot which I desire this Pamphletter now seriously to consider if he hath any honesty or conscience lest within him 6thly What is objected out of Mr. Prynnes Appendix p. 14 is already sufficiently answered and cleared in the first and second section and there is nothing in it which can justifie the late triall arraignment and condemnation of the King in the least degree triable by no law of God or man by such an usurped and illegall Iurisdiction amounting to Tyranny in the superlative Degree And for the condemnation and beheading of Mary Queen of Scotts it was not by her own Parliament and Subjects in her own Kingdom for any Treason against them but for Treason committed in England against Queen Elizabeth where she was a Subject and no Queen at all and that by a surprise as some relate 7thly To that objected p. 15 Touching the name and Title which WILLIAM PRYNNE the Member is pleased to give to the Parliament he meanes the 45 Commons who are no Parliament now sitting calling it A present unparliamentary Iunto I William Prynne the Barrester do call to mind that when the King and divers of the Lords and Commons in the beginning of our late Troubles had deserted the Parliament I did then in my said first Part of the Soveraigne Power of Parliaments p 43 44 maintaine and prove That the remaining part was a Parliament notwithstanding the personall absence of the rest and that as long as those absent are Members of the Parliament they shall still be legally present whether they will or no. To this Mr. Prynne the Member answers First That what he hath written as a Barrester in these two Pages of his First Part will prove fatall to this Pamphletter and his Junto now sitting if well considered and truly recited For first he there proves That there can be no Parliament without the King who ought to be alwayes personally present in or neare his Parliament which he hath more fully manifested as a Barrester in his Plea for the Lords p. 7. to 13. by many Authorities and Records The 45. Commons therefore now sitting without the Lords and their Fellow Members concurrence and against their Votes having illegally and trayterously condemned the King to loose his Head and acting as an intire Parliament without the King Lords or their Fellow Members can be no Parliament at all but a meer unparliamentary J●nto by Mr. Prynne the Barresters Resolution to
bad invention I shall reiect it as the extraordinary fancy of the Doctour and other Lo●alists or Jesuists void both of truth and loyalty Now what Mr. Prynne the Member could have written more in point of law and conscience positively and directly against the unlawfulnes and disloyalty of the Junctoes and their High Courts arraigning and putting the King to death and that in cold blood contrary to their faith Oaths Engagements even after the Treaty and above two yeares after his first imprisonment then what he hath thus written and printed as a Barrester by the House of Commons own Order and approbation dated May the 8. 1643. prefixed to the third part or whether these passages doe not most fully and punctually concurre with what he hath published and asserted in his MEMENTO to the eternall reproach and shame of this malitions Impostor and perverter of his words and opinion let all sober and unb●assed men resolve And if these passages be not sufficient his Histriomastix printed Anno 1633. p. 516 to 520. 825. 826. 943. with his answer to the Bill concerning it in the Star-Chamber wherein he did upon his oath condemne and abhor from his heart the popish Doctrine and practise of murdering and deposing Kings as contrary to the Oathes of Supremacy and Allegiance which he had taken as a Barrester His Epistle before his Quench-coal Published Anno 1638. wherein he interminis condemnes this Popish and Jesuiticall doctrine and practise as faction rebellion and treason His pleasant Purge for a Romane Catholick p. 104. to 112. printed 1642. where as an Vtter-Barrester he particularly refutes and censures the Popes and Jesuits doctrine and practise of killing or dep●sing Kings and absolving Subjects from their Oathes and Allegiance answering all their arguments and texts to prove it And the Antipathy of the English Lordly Prelacy both to Regall verity and Civil unity or an historicall Collection of the severall execrable Treasons Conspiracies Rebellions seditions State schismes Contuma●ies Oppressions and Antimonarchicall practises of our English British French Scottish and Irish Lordly Prelates against our Kings Kingdomes c. published by him as an Utter-Barrester and dedicated to the Parliament Anno 1641. will abundantly absolve him from this scandalous scriblers misrepresentation of his loyalty and false surmises contrariety of his writings as a Barrester and Member which have been alwayes loyall and harmonious against killing or deposing of Kings ayming at nothing but the Honor peace and happi●esse both of the King Kingdome Parliament Church without any private or sinister ends whatsoever as all impartiall PERVSERS of them cannot but acknowledge Thirdly Mr. Prynne the Barrester in the same first Part page 7 asserts and proves That popish Parliaments Peeres and Prelates have heretofore challenged and exercised a greater Iurisdiction over their Kings then this Parliament or any other since the embracing of the Protestant Religion ever claimed and doe in a great measure disclaime For proofe whereof he shewed That they had challenged a just and legall Power as they deemed it to depose their Kings produceth presidents to prove it and among others the presidents of King Edward the 2d and Richard the 2d who were first enforced to resigne their Crownes and after that not arraigned and condemned to lose their heads in a High Court of Iustice as now had a se●tence of deposition drawne up against them but were to be honourably treated and maintained all their lives page 7. 8. 78. to 80. and p. 9. he writes That our popish Parliaments Peeres and Prelates have oft translated the Crowne from the right Heires and setled it on others who had no right nor title to it producing examples to prove it In the close whereof he writes thus Such a transcendent power and jurisdiction as this to disinherit the right Heire and to transferre the Crowne to whom they thought meetest Neither this present nor any other protestant Parliaments Peeres or Subiects ever exercised though popish Parliaments Lords Commons have thus frequently done it And p. 86. he addes True it is Our protestant Parliaments never challenged nor exercised such Jurisdiction and I presume they will not do it And good reason had he thus to write because the * E●●act C●llection p. 657 658. Lords and Commons in Parliament in their Answer to his Majesties Declaration after his late victory against the Rebels on Sunday the 23. of October 1642. had but a few moneths before made this Protestation to all the world concerning the allegations That the Army raised by the Parliament is to murder and depose the King We hoped the contrivers of that Declaration or any that professed the name of a Christian could not have so little charity as to raise such a scandall especially when they must needs know the Protestation taken by every Member of both Houses whereby they promise in the presence of Almighty God to defend his Maiesties Person The promise and protestation made by the Members of both Houses upon the nomination of the Earle of Essex to be Generall and to live and dye with him wherein is expressed That this Army was raised for Defence of the Kings person our often earnest and humble addresses to his Majesty to leave that desperate and dangerous Army wherewith he is now encompassed raised and upheld to the hazard if his owne and the Kingdomes ruine And to come in person to his Parliament where he should be sure to remaine in honour and safety And our humble Petition directed to be presented to him by the hands of the Earle of Essex before any blow given to remove his Royall Person from that Army a request inconsistant with any purpose to offer the least violence to his person which hath and ever shall be deare unto us And concerning the Imputation laid to our charge of our raising this Army to alter the frame of Government and establish the Lawes of the Land we shall need to give it no further answer then this That if to raise an Army in our just defence when another is marching towards us to destroy us and our lawes be to alter the frame of Government then is that ARMY raised for that purpose otherwise it is for our owne and the lawes necessary preservation And not long after the * Ex●ct Coll●ct on p. 695. ●●6 Lords and Commons in their Remonstrance Novemb. 2. 1642. in answer to his Majesties Declaration the 26 of May 1642. concerning the Commission of Array hath these notable Passages But most injuriously most maliciously it is affirmed by the contrivers of this Answer That we told the King that we might without want of modesty and duty depose him Did we so much as once name that word the signification whereof we professed that we did not suffer it so much as to enter into our thoughts Did we say that with duty and modosty we might depose the King because we said we never suffered it to enter into our thoughts Or doe not they rather say
which this Scribler refers And so much the rather because they will quite dissolve this Parliament by putting the King to death For the Parliament being but the Kings Parliament and great Councell and an Authority not an Interest originally called and authorised to sit by the Kings Writ alone which abates and expires by his death and enables not to consult without but only with the King of businesses concerning The King and His Kingdome as these clauses of the Writ import Carolus c. cum NOS de advisemento et consensu Consillij NOSTRI pro quibusdam arduis et urgentibus negotijs NOS Statum defensionem Regni NOSTRI ANGLIAE concernent quoddam PARLIAMENTVM NOSTRVM c. tenere ordinavimus Et ibidem vobiscum c. Regni NOSTRI COLLOQVIVM HABERE c. Quod personaliter intersitis NOBISCVM c. super DICTIS NEGOTIIS tractaiur Et ad faciendum et consentiendum his quaenunc et ibidem de Communi Consilio dicti Regni NOSTRI contegerit ordinari super NEGOTIIS ANTEDICTIS c. The King therefore being put to death the Parliament must of necessity be dissolved by it since it can be no more his Parliament his Councell nor conferre with HIM about HIS and HIS Kingdomes affaires for which they were called and elected to treat of as the Peoples Attorneys or Trustees the King being both the Head the beginning end and foundation of the Parliament which cannot subsist without him no more then a naturall body without an head or an house without a foundation as our * Modus 〈◊〉 Parliamentum Cook 4. I●stit c. p. 1. 2. c. Cromptons Iurisdiction of Courts f. 1. 2. So my Ple● for L●●ds p. 7. to 12. Law books resolve and so was it expresly adjudged and agreed 1. H. 4. rot Parl. n. 1. 14. H. 4. Cook 4. Instit p. 46. 4. E. 44. 44. b. That by the death of the King the Parliament is ipso facto dissolved as all other Courts held only by his Writ or Commission are Neither will the Act made this Parliament in the 17. year of this King To prevent Inconveniences which may happen by the untimely adjourning Proroguing or Dissolving of this present Parliament which enacted That this PRESENT PARLIAMENT now assembled shall not be DISOLVED prorogued or adjourned unlesse it be by Act of Parliament to be passed for that purpose continue this Parliament in being after the Kings death for these reasons First because the scope intent of this Act made before our late Warres was only to disable the King to adjourne prorogue or dissolve this Parl. by any Proclamation or Royall Act of his without the consent of both houses as the very title prologue and close of it resolve But never to continue it still a Parliament in case of the King death against which it never intended to provide it being a legall and absolute dissolution of it by the very fundamentall constitution of Parliaments and the Common Law of the Realme Secondly Because the King is the head and principall Member of this present Parliament and the first person in the enacting Parl. Be it declared and enacted BY THE KING c. and therefore when he ceaseth to be and is cut off the Parliament must of ne● cessity cease to be as well as if the Lords and Commons had all bin dead or murdered by the Army in which case the Parliament had bin ended notwithstanding this Act which cannot make a thing in being which is actually destroyed no more then a dead man to be alive Because it was never the intention of the King Lords and Commons who were all parties to this act to set up a new kinde of Parliament without either King or Lords or the Majority of the Commons house or to vest the Name power and authority of the Parliament in an eight or ninth part of the Commons house alone as now when the King Lords and residue of the Commons were cut off and forced away by the Armies violence Such a thought as this never once entred into their heads Therefore the murthering of the King the laying aside the Lords house secluding of most of the Commons must of necessity dissolve this present Parliament notwithstanding this Act as Master Prynne the Barrester proved long since before he was a Member in his Plea for the Lords p. 14 15. and so much the rather because without them no Act of Parliament can possibly be made this Parliament to dissolve it within the words or meaning of this Act. The Commons therefore now sitting having by their late exorbitant proceedings and cutting off the Kings and Lords too in Mr. Prynne the Barresters judgement disolved this present Parliament and thereby consequently dissolved all Parliament Comittees in City and countrey together with all Ordinances of Parliament and all * Cook 7. Rep. f. 29. 30. 31. Dyer 165. 4. E. 4. 44. 1. E. 5. ● a. 1. H. 7. 2 1. E. 3. 6 7. Commissions of the Commissioners of the Great Seale Iudges of the Kings Courts Iustices of the Peace Sheriffes and the like and the Generalls and all other Officers of the Armies Commissions likewise and put the Kingdome and Army into a miserable confusion Master Prynne the Member conceives he could then and now give them no other Title but that in his Memento which he fears the present age and posterity will have just cause to give them for the miseries they have brought and are like to bring upon them by their Vn-parliamentary and violent proceedings which he doubts wil end in their own ruine Secondly Master Prynne the Barrester in those very Pages proves That not only the KING but all the Lords and Commons ought to be present at the Parliament and fined if they absent themselves without just cause and that all things ought to be acted in Parliament by the Kings Lords and Commons joynt concurrence only he addes That if any of the Lords or Commons when summoned shall wilfully absent themselves that the rest may sit and proceed without them and by the Kings consent make wholsome Lawes for the Common wealth But he neither there nor any where else affirmed that the Lords and Commons could make binding Lawes or Ordinances of Parliament without the King or that the Commons alone could make Acts of Parliament without the Lords as a few of them now they presume or that the eight or ninth part only of the commons house sitting under a force when the rest of the Members are imprisoned secluded and driven away thence by the Armyes violence were a compleat Parliament or House of commons to vote order or act any thing except only to adjourne and take Order to remove the force or that what they voted or acted under a force was valid and binding to their fellow MEMBERS or any others but he expressely affirmes the contrary that whatever is voted or enacted whiles the Parl is under a force is void null
Pamphletter relates his words and the Titles of all his 4. Parts manifest consisting of Lords and Commons and that in a condition of freedom and safety sitting in a full and free Parliament But he never meant nor intended it of the House of Commons alone acting and voting without and against the House of Lords nor of a House of Commons sitting acting under a horrid Arme● force as now much lesse of a remnant of a Commons-House sitting and Voting when near nine parts or ten of their fellow-members are by a mutinous Army imprisoned secluded and driven away from the House or of 40. or 50 Commons sitting under a force and usurping to themselves without and against the consent of their secluded Fellow Members the supreame Authority of the Kingdom making Acts of Parliament and erecting a New High Court of Justice without the Lords or their Fellow Nembers consents to indite arraigne condemne and execute the King as a Traytor and without the whole Kingdomes or Scotlands and Irelands joynt consents of which he is likewise King Such a Parliament as this consisting of some 50. or 60 Commons only without King Lords or the rest of their Fellow Commoners he never heard nor read of in any age and so could never intend it and therefore in his Memento might very well mind them of committing Treason within this Law whatever they Vote order or ordain or Enact in such a thin House under a force whiles the other Members are secluded being by Mr. Speakers owne Declaration of July 30. 1647. and the Ordinance of both Houses August 20. 1647. declared to be meerly null and void to all intents even at the time of its Voting Ordering Ordaining enacting ever after and so no prea at all 〈◊〉 justifie such Members in the case they be indicted a●d arraigned of High Treason for it 3 Whereas this Pamphletter p. 11 suggesteth That Wil● Prynne the Member in the rehearsal of the Statute of 25. E. 3. hath foulely miscarried and falsified the words of it in his Mement● For where as the Statute mentions nothing at all touching deposing the King he urgeth the Statute thus That it is no lesse then High Treason for any man by overt act to compass or imagin the deposition or death of the King Adding the word deposition which is no where found in the whole Statute To this Mr. Prynne the Member answers 1. That this Ignoramus hath foulely mis-recited and falsifyed his words by omitting part of them which are these First I shall minde them that by the Common Law of the Realme which he omits the Statute of 25. E. 3. and all other Acts concerning Treasons omitted likewise by this Scribler it is no lesse than High-Treason for any man by overt Act to compasse or imagine the deposition or death of the King quoting Cook and Stamford in the margin and 21. R 2. Plac. Cor. num 4. 6. 7. in the Text. Now though the word deposing be not in the Statute of 25. E. 3. yet it is in the Lawbooks which he cites and in the Parliament Roll of 21. R. 2. which this Dulman never read Therefore this absurd observation and censure of his might well have been spared Secondly To compasse the deposing or imprisoning of the King is in expresse Words declared to be Treason by the Statutes of 26 H. 8. c. 13. 1. E. 6. c. 12. 1. Eliz c. 6. 13. E. c. 1. and is no lesse then High Treason within the meaning and intention of 25 E 3 c. 2. though not within the Letter as our * Cook 3. instit ch ● p. 5. 6. 12 13. and 7. Rep. 10 11 Law-books and all the Judges of England have resolved Therefore Mr. Prynne the Member stands rectus in Curia against this ignorant false aspersion 4ly What Mr. Prynne the Barrester writ concerning the Oath of Supremacy quoted p. 11 12 he doth still averre as to the first branch of it which is distinct from the latter as applyed to the whole Parliament not to the House of Commons alone or those few Members now sitting in it under a force of which he never intended that passage to whom it is here misapplyed Only he must inform this Gentleman that the latter clause of this Oath And do promise that from henceforth I shall bear true allegiance to the Kings Highne his heirs and lawful successors and to my power shall assist and defend all Iurisdictions Priviledges and Preheminences granted or belonging to the Kings Highnesse his Heirs and Successors on united and anexed to the Imperiall Crowne of this Realme So help me God c. Is a distinct clause from the former which hee and his Confederates in their late proceedings have quite forgotten and shall one day answer for such wilfull perjury in this or the world to come if they repent not of it 5thly Whereas he addes p. 13. That the Oath of Allegiance relates only to the Popes unlawfull exercise of Authority and Iurisdiction within the Kingdome And that William Prynne the Member in his rehearsall makes the Oath to run thus That the Pope neither of himselfe nor by any Authority of the Church of Rome or by any other means nor any other hath power c. and so instead of the words with any other implying the Authority of the Pope joyned with others he makes it a distinct clause nor any other and so upon this forgery including the Parliament within those words nor any other he would make this proceeding against the King to be contrary to the Oath of Allegiance Mr. Prynn● the Member answers First that though this Oath doth principally relate to the Popes unlawfull exercise of Authority and Jurisdiction within this Realme yet it relates not only and solely to it as he pretends The whole scope of this Oath is To secure our Kings from being deposed or murdered by their Subjects or any other The greatest danger the Parliament then feared as to those two Treasons and Mischiefs was principally from the Pope and his Popish Instruments who maintained and averred the lawfullnesse of deposing and murthering Christian Princes excommunicated or deprived by the Pope by their Subjects or any other Against which mischife this Oath and Statute principally provides it being contrary to the Doctrine and Practise of all Protestant Churches and Subjects But can any man argue This Oath provides against the deposing and murthering of our Kings by the Pope or Popish Subjects or Parliaments by any influence or authority from the Pope Ergo it is lawfull for Protestant Subjects and Parliaments to depose and murther their Kings without infringing this Oath Doth not that Law and Oath which provides against the greatest and most likelyest Assassinates and Deposers of our Kings provide likwise against the lesser and more unusuall and is not a Protestants deposing and murthering of his Prince as treasonable as unlawfull as a Papists yea and farre worse in this respect because it hardens and justifies them therin scandalizeth