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A40706 A dialogue betwixt Philautus and Timotheus in defence of Dr. Fullwood's Legas AngliƦ against the vindicator of Naked truth, stiling himself Phil. Hickeringill. Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693. 1681 (1681) Wing F2499; ESTC R7930 24,716 36

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