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A17912	A necessitie of separation from the Church of England, prooved by the nonconformists principles Specially opposed vnto Dr. Ames, his Fresh suit against humane ceremonies, in the point of separation only. Also Dr. Laiton, Mr. Dayrel, and Mr. Bradshaw, are here answered, wherein they have written against us. With a table in the later end, of the principal occurrents in this treatise. By Iohn Canne, pastor of the ancient English church, in Amsterdam.	Canne, John, d. 1667?	1634 (1634)	STC 4574; ESTC S117015	174,263	303

to the beast The truth whereof many can witnesse by wofull experience For Princes generally in those dayes have given so much authority unto the Hierarchie that they have scarse left themselves power to defend many times the innocent cause of their best subjects or to punish justly the vilest offender We would thinke him a man sencelesse that should give up willingly his weapons into the hand of his enimie For to doe so were to be murdered himselfe and to be accessarie to it The Bishops are proved to be the greatest enimies that the King and State hath Surely then with reverence be it spoken it is not wisely done that any power is given unto them For by this meanes in all likelihood many will be killed and not in their bodies only but in their soules also But enough of their persons Let us heare what they speake of their callings The offices say they of Arch-Bishops and Lord Bishops c. be rather members and part of the whore and strumpet of Rome then of the pure virgin spouse of the immaculat Lamb. Their calling indeed is meerly Antichristian false divelish contrary to the word of God taken out of the Popes shop with their names also yea it came frō the bottomlesse pit I say frō heathens frō darknesse the devil a thing degenerate and grown out of kind a humane creature an addition an institution an ordinance of Kings and Princes As it began with oppressing the onely lawfull pollicy and administration of the church so the end of it hath been the most proud and ambitious tyranny that ever was in the world It is as clear as the light that they are no brāches of Gods engrafting their ministery hath no root in Christs testament but of the earth new devised and which can doe no good As for the Apostles they never knew them Syon hath not heard of them Ierusalem which is above will not acknowledge them and no marvail for Antichrist and they are of one and the same brood and offspring of one and the same foundation his rysing was their rysing c. and their traditions and ceremonies are his they had them from him they are installed after the same manner of Popish Bishops creäted with the most of the same ceremonies they are trimmed up with the same trappings they have the like attendants the like armes and observancy they vsurpe the same power jurisdiction and exercise the like tyranny over ministers and people All their principall reasons brought to prove their standing are the same that Turrianus other Popish writers alleadg for the Popes supremacy as indeed they must stand or fall together It is evident therefore that they are no ministers at all in the church of Christ but have and doe usurpe and invade the name and seat of the ministery beeing doubtlesse very theeves robbers wolves and worriers of the Flocks The Magistrate therefore is to doe to them as our Saviour dealt Ioh. 2. in whipping out buyers and sellers and mony changers those might better come into the Temple then these Bishops into the church of God and had more necessarie use but they had abused holy things and made it a den of theeves Not only is this barely affirmed of them but also they doe lay downe many singular arguments and reasons to prove it To instance these Those offices and callings are Antichristian without which all forms of Governments are perfect save onely the government of the Kingdome of Antichrist But such are the callings of Lord Archbishops and Bishops as all forme of Governments may be perfect without them save onely the Antichristian Kingdome where in no case they can be missed For the Government both of the Church and common wealth can well spare them and be never a whitt the more unperfect Therefore the callings of Archbs. and Bs. doe only belong vnto the Kingdome of Antichrist Those Governours are justly called Antichristian who are assistant to the Pope in his vniversall government But Bishops Archbs. c. are assistante to the Pope in his vniversall Government Therefore Bishops Archbs. c. are justly called Antichristian That ministerry which all Christian men and women are bound to submitt and yeeld obedience unto is to be found in the word of God But the ministery of Archbishops Bs. is not to be found in the word of God Ergo there ought not to be obedience yeelded to it He that desires to see the Prelates arguments answered and soundly refuted which they alleadge to uphold their vnsanctifyed places and standings Let him read Mr. Baynes his Diocesans triall the first and second reply to Doct. Downenams Sermon Mr. Parkers Eccles Polit and there he shal receive satisfaction to the full Moreover such is their certainty of this thing that they have often chalenged yea dared the Prelates vnto disputation offering to adventure their lives if the other would but their Bishopricks to prove that they are neither Pastors nor Teachers but officers erected against the word of God the ancient fathers the moderne most learned and godly divines And the like they speak of Archdeacons deanes prebanes canons and the whole Hierarchye of which more hereafter If this be so then by the reasons before shewed it is evident and most certaine that no man can lawfully cōmunicate at any time in the ministery of these men and so much they acknowledge Why should Gods people of what degree soever subject their neck to a Babilonish yoke should they not stand fast in the liberty wherein Christ hath set them free if they sit not in Moyses chayr why should they heare them If they bring not a lawfull warrant of their calling why should they be obeyed to heare and obey Christ coming in his fathers name and Antichristian Prelates coming in their owne name cannot subsist together But because the thing is allready sufficiently proved we will therefore proceed to a second sort of their ministers Yet by the way I desire the reader to take knowledge of one thing To weet that the Nonconsormists by these positions laid downe against their Prelates doe herein certainly condemne their whole ministery allowed by the Lawes of the Land for if the calling and office of their Bishops be as they say it is of the earth false divilish Antichristian c. Then it followes that their calling and office must necessarily be of the same qualitie nature and condition to weet of the earth false divilish Antichristian which is wholy derived from it which receives I say and takes its life and beeing of it onely and no where else For if their Bishops have not a right power in themselves then can they not transferre it to an other as the Law saith nemo potest plus juris transferre in alium quam sibi competere dignoscatur No man can give more to another then he hath himselfe If Korah Dathan and Abiram when they vsurped the Preisthood

and let goe scott-free and unpunished knowne Atheists Charmers Blasphemers Drunkards Fornicators Heretikes Prophaners of the Sabbath c. Notwithstanding those called Puritans which will not observe their Traditions beggarly Ceremonies shall be hurryed up downe to their spiritual courts upon every occasion and there be scorned derided taunted and reviled with odious and contumelious speaches eyed with big and sterne lookes have proctors procured to make personal invectives against them made to daunce attendance from court to court and from terme to terme frowing at them in presence and laughing at them behind their backs never leaving molesting of them till they have emptied their purses or caused them to make shipwrack of their consciences or driven them out of the Land or lastly by imprisonment starved stifled and pined them to death Thus they cherish vice correct vertue give men leave to be any thing saving good Christians Besides in these vncleane stewes all is done for mony nothing is regarded else for mony any sinne may be bought out with them but those which will not fee them shall be cursed and cast into hel for every triffle although they have done no evill at all but contrariewise for doeing that which is right and good And this is so manifest a truth as the Prelates Creatures have openlie confessed The Church Censures now a dayes doe onely touch the purse evill doers when they have payd their see returne scott free If no monie then have at the off enders with the Episcopal Sword presently at one blow they are cutt off from the Church delivered over vnto Satan proclaimed Publicans Heathens Anathema For the most ridiculous things and against every good man these brutish thunderbolts doe fly vp and downe and onely to be feared of the purse And yet this is not the greatest wickednesse which is committed by these peslilent fellowes for it is further affirmed that their learned preachers are excommunicated many times by foolish boyes No marvaile therefore their censures are not regarded and that the Nonconformists give counsell that no man should make any conscience of them for surely they are of no more effect weight or consequence then if a villaine or rogue should give sentence of death against a lawfull Prince I forbeare to mention the bawdy pleading of their Doctors and proctors in those courts and the sumners yea and Registers themselves it is so scurilous vncleane and beastly as the Nonconformists say it would greive a chast care to heare it For the Archdeacons and Chauncellours are fain to laugh it out many times when they cannot hold their countenance any longer In the writing of these things there comes to my minde a speach which a B. spake once to me in private I relating to him certaine base and inhumane cariages which they did me in his courts out of great compassion he vttered these words I pray God saith he to keepe all good men out of their hands his speach was good but in what a case is he himselfe all the while which vpholds with both hands these soule murderers their court and courses and yet in his conscience is perswaded that they are all starke naught It is not needefull that I proceed farther in this point seeing the Nonconformists doe generally affirme that their Church is still vnder the Bondage of Antichrists Government the very same false tyrannous discipline that is pourtrayed out in the Popes Canons for which cause we refuse say they to have Christ an immediate King in the immediate government of the Church so as great indignitie is offered vnto him as if some base vnderlings vnto a King should commit his beloved spouse vnto the direction of the mistresse of the stewes and enforce hir to live after the order of a brothel house I will here conclude with this argument Whatsoever is contrary to the institution of Christ and his writen word is Antichristian and is to be banished out of Church of the God But the Government by Lord Bishops with Episcopall domination is contrary to the institution of Christ and his writen word Therefore it is Antichristian and is to be banished out of the Church of God SECT III WE have heard what the Nonconformists say of their Church Government in this Section we will lay downe our conclusions from it and these are cheiflie 3. First No obedience must be yeelded to these Ecclesiast officers I say we may neither acknowledge their authority nor in any thing kind or degree partake with them in their administration but strictly avoyd the same as we would avoyd wrath and vengeance to come There is no need that I alleadge Scriptures reasons c. As before for confirmation of this seeing the Nonconformists goe with vs fully in the thing and doe affirme that men ought not to appeare in their courts neither to obey or regard their citations excommunications warrants c. Nor to receive any absolution from them in a word not to yeeld obedience to them in any one thing which comes from them as they are Bishops Archdeacons Chancellors Commiss officials c. For this were an acknowledging of them and a way to maintaine them in their vsurpation pride idolatrie covetuousnes c. Beside we should suffer men to rule then over vs at their pleasure and so not stand fast in that Christian liberty which the Lord commaunds vs to doe Moreover it is certaine a man cannot obey the Bishops Government but he must necessarily transgresse against the Lawes of the Realme and to prove this an argument may be framed thus Whosoever shall allow or countenance in word or deed any forraigne power authority or jurisdiction and more particularily of the Pope of Rome makes himselfe a transgressour to the King and to the Lawes But such as obey the B● Fool. Government doe allow and countenance in word and died a forraine power authority and jurisdiction and particularly of the Pope of Rome Therefore such as obey the B● Eccles Government make themselves transgressors to the King and the Lawes Both parts of the reason are evident and cleare as the light The former are of the words of the oath of Allegeance Touching the later to weet that the Prelates exercise a forraigne power authority and jurisdiction derived from the Pope We have before sufficiently proved And therefore it behoveth all the Kings subjects to looke well to this thing least they be not onely forsworne but incurre also the penaltie of the Law which is after conviction forfeitures judgements and executions due to high treason Our second inference is that the publick assemblies of England are false and Antichristian and therefore to beleft this necessarily followes vpon the former premises for if they have not the power of the censures and of excommunication but stand vnder a government which came wholy and every part from the devil and Antichrist then is their condition naught the reason is because this

but specially that it be sett on by one that hath authority therevnto So much more it is in the case of the Sacraments for to receive the same in a false ministery is to deny Gods ministery and to give the glory of it there where he hath not given it and to deprive our selves of this comfort that our hearts may say Gods solemne voyce speaketh his solemne hand offereth and giveth which is here the lively stay of our fayth By this it appeareth that the daunger is marvelous great to communicate in a false ministery a man would pull a sore punishment upon his head if he should have a hand to putt by a Princes lawfull officer whether Iudge Mayor Bayliefe c. and sett up a rebel in the roome thereof and come to him for justice He that receives in a false ministery denies Gods ministery sayth the former Author And so puts a traitor in his place and takes the holy things from the handes of a traitor which is a fearfull transgression and surely will procure extreame wrath without true and sound repentance From all that hath beene before spoken we may here frame this Argument None may heare or joyn in spirituall communion with that ministery which hath not a true vocation and calling by election approbation and ordination of that faithfull people where he is to administer But the present ministery of the ecclesiasticall assemblies of England hath not a true vocation and calling by election approbation and ordination of a faithfull people where they administer Therefore none may hear or joyne in spirituall communion with the present ministerie of the Ecclesiasticall assemblies of England Which of the propositions the Nonconformists will deny I know not but sure I am they are both Theirs Howbeit it may be they doe not so well weigh their owne principles as they should And hence it is that their practice is not strictly answereable to their profession and therefore doe give just occasion I speake it with greife unto the Prelates and their Parasites to insinuate against them hypocriticall ends in condemning so greivously the ministery worship government of the English Church and yet to partake in the knowne evills and abuses thereof But for my part I am otherwise minded then the Bishops in this thing and doe thinke that they doe of conscience condemne the state of that Church But doe not maturely consider the responsive conclusions which follow upon their principles For which cause I haue written of purpose this treatise to prove that they cannot justify their Tenets against that Church and stand members lawfully thereof Concerning their ministerie I have shewed before that by their owne confession it is false and so not to be joyned with And if I should here end the point I thinke every indifferent reader would sufficiently be satisfied But because I judge the same to be of importance to justifie a seperation from them and also that their ministers are of sundry sorts degrees therfore I will speake a little more thereof and prove further from their writings that every kind degree of their ministery is false and Antichristian According to the Prelates Canons their ministers are divided into 3. Heads or orders Namely Bishops Preists and deacons The first comprehends the superiour the other two the inferior ministers What the superior are few but know viz. Archbishops and Lordbishops against whose courses and callings whole books have beene written to manifest the same to be evill and vnlawfull I shall onely here breifly lay downe some of their passages touching both referring the reader for more full satisfaction to that which is published at large by them As for their Bishops if they be as the Nonconformists report of them surely they are not fitt for Church or common wealth for they oppose say they with tooth and nayle every thing that is good They have had their hand in all the great evils that hath befallen their Church and state never any good thing prospered that they put their hand too the King state stood never in need but they allwayes deceived thē if oppertunity serve they will make peace with their head he meanes the Pope if it be with the losse of all their heads if they continue their places And hence it is that all the professed enimies of state and Church make vse of them to effect their evill ends as David sayd of Goliahs sword there is none to that fo sayth the Pope Spaniard and Arminian for overturning of a state and making havock of a Church there is none to a Bishop give them that To the same purpose others They are the greatest and most pestilent enimies that the state hath and are likely to be the ruin thereof Take them for better who will they are no other then a remnant of Antichrists brood a viperous generatiō Caterpillers Moaths Canker wormes sonnes of that monstrous Giant the man of sinne men of bloods base fellowes murderous tyrants vsurpers time servers cages of vncleane birds vnnaturall false and bastardly governors Lordly Epicures proud Popish presumtious perfidious Prophane Paltry and pernitious Prelates open enimies to the sincere preaching of the gospell the scepter of Christs Kingdom and the glory of the Land men contented to be bawdes vnto all kind of sinnes and therefore all the professed and notorious Atheists Papists blashemers adulterers drunkards and most infamous persons in the Kingdom are with them they have further with them the counsell of Achitophel the courting of Shebna the roaring and brawling of Goliah the cruell pride and vanity of Hamon the flattery of Amaziah the falshood of Samaiah and the bloody cunning of Doeg these wax worse and worse and growe to a height of iniquity greiving at the encrease of good men and persecute nothing more then holinesse they care not for King country nor their own souls but for a Bishoprick And therefore if they can by flatteries invectives whisperings or other evill courses keepe the King and counsel so ignorant and blind as to be firme on their side they care for no more to be short the best of them in some sort are the worst because they hold vp the reputation of that vnlawfull office and make way for more wicked successours and their traditions Much more then this yea and worse too is sayd of their Bb. but I passe it over as blushing to speake it Only I here thinke of that saying in the Proverbes when the wicked beareth rule the people mourn It was just so with the Israelites when Pharaoh sett cruell tas kemaisters over them And it seemes their case is much like unto it indeed some difference there is for the Egyptian Lords onely beate the Lords people But their Prelates say they imprison and kill them also I should wonder at such horrible injuries committed in any common wealth but that the scripture sayth the Kings of the earth shall give their strenght and power

in the father and the Sonne Hence it followes that those which abide not in the Doctrine of the Prophets and Apostles but set vp other formes of worshipping God abide not in the sonne and the father Gods worship must be according to his nature heavenly divine and spirituall but all devised worship is according to the nature and disposition of the deviser foolish carnall vaine c. Therefore when God is worshipped not according to his owne will but according to the will and pleasure of man the true God is not worshipped but a God of mens invention is set vp Thus he Secondly there must be a true manner of worship which is to proceed from the very heart root and to be performed with the will the affections and all that is within us For this gives life and welbeeing to divine service as a well proportioned body if it want breath offends us and we desire to have it taken out of our sight For the noysome smel which it maketh in our nostrels even so every worship how outwardly glorious and formall soever voyd of uprightnesse displeaseth the Lord greatly and he bids such hypocrites to cary the same away out of his presence because it is noysome and abominable unto him Let every man therefore looke to this maine thing to wit that he worship God in the truth and sincerity of the inward man For in this God onely taketh delight and without this maine qualification he cannot abide either the person or action It is a thing common with men when they take a peece of worke to doe for an other and exspect to have a good reward for their labour to be carefull so to doe it as the Mr. for whome they doe it may have good content therein the like should be our care whensoever we take in hand any service of God and hope to be recompenced to perform the same in that sort as the Lord may be pleased to accept graciously of it in Iesus Christ In all this we do fully agree with the Nōconformists are persuaded that no man can rightly beleive that his service is well pleasing unto God unlesse it be performed both for matter and manner as they have before truly expressed and therefore to our power we are carefull allwayes thus to doe And so much the more because herein we know our masters will and have promised to doe it so that if we neglect it both our trespasse and punishment will be the greater SECT II. IN the former Section we have heard what a true worship is Now it followes that we describe the worship of the English Assemblies according to the testimony given thereof by the Nonconformists This worship for the matter of it is contained wholy as was said in their Church Leiturgie in the handling whereof for the readers better information I will first shew what they say of the whole booke and afterwards of the particular parts and peeces thereof Touching the former they write thus The whole forme of the Church service is borrowed from the Papists peeced and patched together without reason or order of edificatiō yea not only is the form of it taken from the church of Antichrist but surely the matter also For none can deny but it was culled and picked out of that Popish Dunghill the portuis and vile Massebooke full of all abominations From three Romish Channells I say was it raked together namely the Breviary out of which the common prayers are takē out of the rituall or book of rites the administration of the Sacraments burial matrimony visitation of the sick are taken and out of the Massebooke are the consecration of the Lord Supper Collects Gospels and Epistles And for this cause it is that the Papists like well of the English Masse for so King Iames used to call it and makes them say Surely the Romish is the true and right religion else the Heretikes in England would never have received so much of it For some have avouched it to my face saith the author of the Curtaine of Church power that the service there is nothing but the Masse in English others that it wants nothing but the Popes consecration These things thus retained it was also thought that Popish Kings and Princes would be the lesse offended what marvell seeing the I●suites themselves are so well pleased with the ceremonies and service that I heard one of them God is my wittnesse herein make it his hope that the maintenance of them against the puritans would make England the sooner returne to Rome in the rest Mine eyes and ea●es saith Bishop Hall can wittnesse with what approofe and applause divers of the Chatholikes royal as they are termed entertayned the new translated Lyturgie of our Church Which is the lesse wonder seeing Pope Pius the 4. sending Vincentio Parpatia Abbot of S. Saviours to Queene Elizabeth offered to confirme the English Lyturgie by his authority if she would yeeld to him in some other things Indeed it pleased them so wel that for the first eleven yeares of Queen Elizabeth Papists came to the English Churches and service as the Lord Cooke sheweth others of them affirme the same thing namely their Churrh service pleaseth marvelous well the Romish beast and his vngodly followers Witnesse the pacification of the devonshire Papists in the time of Edward the 6. when as they vnderstood it was no other but the very masse booke put into English wittnesse also the assertion of D. Carryer a daungerous seducing Papist The common prayer booke saith he and the Catechisme contayned in it hould no point of doctrine expresly contrary to antiquity that is as he explaine●h himselfe the Romish service onely hath not enough in it and for the doctrine of predestination sacraments grace free will and sinne c. The new Catechisme and sermons of the puritan preachers runne wholy in these against the common prayer and Catechisme therein contayned c. And therevpon he comforteth himselfe vpon the hope of supply of the rest to this effect speaketh Bristow and Harding If these things be right why not the rest It shall not be amisse to marke one accurrence in Q. Elizabeths time who beeing interdicted by the Popes Bull secretary Walsingham tryed a trick of state pollicie to reverse the same He caused two of the Popes intelligencers at the Popes appointment to be brought as it were in secret into England to whome he appointed a guide beeing a state intelligencer who should shew them in Canterbury and London service solemnly sung and said withall their pompe and procession which order the Popish intelligencers seeing and so much admiring they wondered that their master would be so vnadvised as to interdict a prince or state whose service and ceremonies so Symbolized with his owne So returning to the Pope they shewed him his oversight affirming that they saw no service ceremonies or Church orders in England but they might very