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B23579 A Reply of two of the brethren to A. S. wherein you have observations on his considerations, annotations, &c. upon the apologeticall narration : with a plea for libertie of conscience for the apologists church way, against the cavils of the said A. S., formerly called M. S. to A. S. : humbly submitted to the judgements of all rationall and moderate men in the world : with a short survey of W. R. his Grave confutation of the separation, and some modest and innocent touches on the letter from Zeland and Mr. Parker's from New-England. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665.; Steuart, Adam. Some observations and annotations upon the Apologetical narration. Selections.; Parker, Thomas, 1595-1677. 1644 (1644) Wing G1198 108,381 124

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be_v fear_v be_v much_o straighten_a in_o respect_n of_o a_o spirit_n of_o that_o wisdom_n themselves_o sure_o a._n s._n in_o say_v that_o the_o parliament_n be_v wise_a enough_o to_o know_v what_o be_v convenient_a for_o the_o church_n have_v sift_v the_o synod_n or_o assembly_n with_o a_o sieve_n of_o vanity_n and_o break_v the_o head_n of_o the_o necessity_n thereof_o &_o so_o be_v guilty_a of_o a_o far_o high_a misdemeanour_n against_o it_o than_o the_o apologist_n be_v in_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o have_v do_v or_o say_v yea_o or_o then_o himself_o lay_v to_o their_o charge_n which_o yet_o be_v his_o rod_n of_o scorpion_n to_o scourge_v they_o from_o place_n to_o place_n turpe_fw-la est_fw-la doctori_fw-la cum_fw-la culpa_fw-la redarguit_fw-la ipsum_fw-la sect._n 2._o but_o let_v we_o consider_v a_o little_a more_o narrow_o whether_o a._n s._n have_v quite_v himself_o like_o a_o doctor_n of_o the_o chair_n in_o strip_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n of_o a_o directive_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o put_v on_o he_o in_o stead_n thereof_o the_o purple_a robe_n of_o a_o executive_a coercitive_a and_o external_a power_n only_o pag._n 6._o 1._o by_o such_o a_o umpirage_n and_o decision_n as_o this_o between_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o himself_o with_o his_o fellow_n presbyter_n have_v he_o not_o make_v the_o one_o judex_n and_o the_o other_o carnifex_fw-la the_o one_o must_v give_v the_o sentence_n the_o other_o must_v do_v the_o execution_n the_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v much_o behold_v to_o the_o presbyter_n for_o give_v of_o he_o a_o consecrate_a sword_n to_o fight_v the_o presbyterian_a battle_n and_o for_o persuade_v he_o to_o pull_v out_o his_o own_o eye_n upon_o this_o presumption_n that_o he_o shall_v see_v better_o with_o he_o i_o perceive_v presbytery_n be_v policy_n in_o the_o high_a and_o seek_v to_o put_v the_o magistrate_n between_o itself_o and_o the_o envy_n and_o discontent_n of_o the_o people_n and_o yet_o nevertheless_o 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adequate_a end_n thereof_o 2._o i_o will_v glad_o be_v inform_v whether_o a._n s._n think_v it_o reasonable_a sect._n 3_o meet_v or_o christian_a that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n shall_v immediate_o hand_n over_o head_n without_o distinction_n without_o search_v for_o his_o own_o satisfaction_n into_o the_o equitablenesse_n and_o lawfulness_n of_o what_o a_o presbytery_n or_o synod_n shall_v commend_v unto_o he_o for_o execution_n interest_n himself_o in_o the_o execution_n of_o whatsoever_o shall_v be_v so_o recommend_v and_o present_v unto_o he_o i_o presume_v a._n s._n will_v not_o arrogate_v unto_o himself_o nor_o to_o his_o assembly_n a_o infallibility_n though_o in_o some_o place_n i_o find_v he_o very_o loath_a to_o abate_v this_o in_o the_o reckon_n if_o it_o will_v be_v allow_v and_o the_o truth_n be_v that_o the_o whole_a fabric_n well-nigh_o of_o his_o discourse_n to_o make_v it_o rational_a and_o any_o thing_n to_o
this_o as_o a_o choice_a commendation_n of_o his_o presbyterial_a government_n that_o in_o it_o their_o church_n be_v not_o expose_v unto_o the_o calumny_n of_o the_o papist_n who_o pretend_v to_o be_v nothing_o but_o one_o church_n meaning_n that_o a_o compliance_n with_o they_o in_o unity_n and_o uniformity_n will_v be_v a_o exemption_n to_o they_o from_o their_o calumny_n 3._o it_o be_v a_o old_a piece_n of_o subtlety_n of_o the_o old_a serpent_n to_o oppose_v god_n in_o sect._n 14_o his_o saint_n and_o in_o his_o way_n by_o teach_v his_o prophet_n and_o agent_n to_o make_v parallel_n between_o to_o sort_n and_o to_o suit_n god_n servant_n with_o he_o and_o god_n way_n or_o work_n with_o he_o that_o so_o the_o foolish_a and_o inconsiderate_a world_n may_v be_v bring_v to_o think_v that_o god_n and_o he_o be_v but_o one_o and_o that_o there_o be_v little_a or_o no_o difference_n between_o they_o how_o do_v janne_n and_o jambres_n withstand_v moses_n but_o by_o do_v the_o same_o 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for_o they_o if_o they_o be_v leave_v free_a to_o judge_v of_o their_o own_o action_n all_o the_o lineament_n in_o the_o face_n of_o presbytery_n demonstrate_v this_o to_o be_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o it_o a_o willingness_n to_o confer_v all_o and_o all_o manner_n of_o power_n whatsoever_o upon_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n which_o they_o may_v be_v secure_v will_v be_v use_v to_o serve_v their_o turn_n and_o not_o to_o the_o prejudice_n or_o disturbance_n of_o they_o in_o their_o way_n and_o so_o a._n s._n after_o he_o have_v labour_v in_o the_o very_a fire_n and_o have_v engage_v himself_o to_o the_o uttermost_a to_o prove_v the_o negative_a he_o fall_v off_o with_o this_o gloze_a close_o at_o the_o last_o pag._n 51._o that_o if_o the_o king_n and_o parliament_n shall_v find_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o what_o he_o have_v deliver_v expedient_a he_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v against_o it_o therefore_o of_o the_o two_o arminian_n be_v more_o charitable_o affect_v towards_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o cast_v a_o power_n upon_o they_o out_o of_o a_o hope_n they_o will_v use_v if_o for_o their_o good_a than_o the_o presbyterian_o be_v in_o deny_v this_o power_n unto_o they_o out_o of_o fear_n they_o will_v use_v it_o to_o their_o damage_n 6._o and_o last_o for_o conclusion_n of_o this_o first_o chapter_n concern_v such_o sect._n 16_o a_o directive_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n as_o a._n s._n it_o seem_v will_v here_o sequester_v for_o the_o honour_n and_o service_n of_o his_o presbytery_n when_o jesus_n christ_n have_v declare_v himself_o willing_a to_o divest_v himself_o and_o make_v a_o delegation_n of_o it_o unto_o they_o i_o shall_v as_o willing_o acknowledge_v and_o adore_v their_o patent_n as_o any_o other_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n god_n support_v i_o i_o shall_v with_o the_o utmost_a of_o my_o power_n and_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o all_o discouragement_n danger_n death_n vindicate_v the_o right_n and_o prerogative_n belong_v to_o the_o crown_n of_o my_o great_a lord_n and_o master_n what_o shall_v become_v of_o i_o in_o so_o do_v ipse_fw-la viderit_fw-la as_o for_o such_o a_o directive_n power_n which_o with_o the_o honour_n and_o safety_n of_o the_o right_n of_o heaven_n be_v attributable_a unto_o man_n who_o character_n and_o cognizance_n be_v this_o not_o to_o be_v compulsorie_a unto_o man_n by_o any_o external_a violence_n whether_o direct_o or_o indirect_o to_o subscribe_v against_o their_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n to_o it_o i_o can_v free_o allow_v as_o much_o of_o it_o to_o a._n s._n and_o his_o presbyterial_a assembly_n as_o will_v stand_v with_o their_o peace_n with_o god_n with_o their_o honour_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o unpartial_a and_o intelligent_a man_n with_o the_o peace_n and_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n if_o they_o will_v have_v more_o let_v they_o look_v to_o it_o this_o desire_n of_o they_o will_v in_o time_n find_v they_o out_o and_o slay_v they_o cap._n 2._o concern_v that_o executive_a coercitive_a and_o external_a power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n which_o a._n s._n ascribe_v unto_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n pag._n 6._o a._n s._n in_o this_o six_o page_n to_o persuade_v with_o the_o parliament_n and_o civil_a magistrate_n that_o they_o shall_v do_v god_n good_a service_n to_o resign_v up_o their_o eye_n patient_o into_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o presbytery_n feed_v they_o with_o the_o commendation_n of_o constantine_n the_o great_a in_o refuse_v a_o unjust_a and_o exorbitant_a power_n which_o the_o council_n give_v to_o he_o where_o by_o the_o way_n it_o be_v somewhat_o observable_a that_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n incident_a to_o counsel_n and_o synod_n to_o give_v unjust_a &_o exorbitant_a power_n unto_o civil_a magistrate_n so_o that_o it_o stand_v the_o parliament_n &_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o hand_n before_o they_o part_v with_o their_o eye_n upon_o such_o term_n to_o look_v about_o they_o and_o to_o consider_v twice_o over_o what_o power_n they_o receive_v and_o accept_v of_o from_o the_o hand_n of_o council_n and_o synod_n especial_o in_o reference_n to_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o the_o church_n or_o servant_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v a_o terrible_a say_n of_o christ_n enough_o to_o make_v both_o the_o ear_n of_o king_n and_o prince_n and_o parliament_n yea_o and_o of_o synod_n and_o assembly_n too_o to_o tingle_v whosoever_o shall_v offend_v one_o of_o these_o little_a one_o that_o believe_v in_o i_o it_o be_v better_o for_o he_o that_o a_o millstone_n be_v hang_v about_o his_o neck_n and_o that_o he_o be_v drown_v in_o the_o depth_n of_o the_o sea_n matth._n 18._o 6._o it_o be_v dangerous_a meddle_v with_o saint_n in_o any_o other_o way_n then_o of_o tenderness_n and_o love_n be_v they_o never_o so_o few_o in_o number_n never_o so_o weak_a in_o power_n or_o otherwise_o one_o of_o these_o little_a one_o say_v christ_n all_z the_o 21._o reason_n with_o 41._o more_o put_v to_o they_o whereby_o a._n s._n incite_v the_o parliament_n against_o a_o toleration_n of_o the_o apologist_n with_o man_n of_o their_o judgement_n in_o the_o sequel_n of_o his_o discourse_n will_v not_o deliver_v either_o the_o king_n or_o parliament_n out_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o that_o threaten_a if_o they_o come_v under_o the_o dint_n of_o it_o by_o offer_v any_o violence_n shall_v i_o say_v yea_o any_o offence_n to_o the_o least_o of_o these_o little_a one_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 1_o cor._n 15._o 24._o prophesi_v of_o the_o put_n down_o of_o all_o rule_n and_o all_o authority_n and_o power_n by_o christ_n the_o reason_n thereof_o in_o the_o word_n immediate_o follow_v he_o show_v to_o be_v their_o enmity_n unto_o he_o for_o he_o must_v reign_v say_v the_o apostle_n verse_n 25._o till_o he_o have_v put_v all_o his_o enemy_n under_o his_o foot_n the_o truth_n be_v that_o it_o be_v a_o very_a hard_a matter_n even_o for_o the_o best_a of_o man_n in_o place_n of_o rule_n authority_n and_o power_n to_o move_v regular_o in_o their_o own_o orb_n and_o not_o to_o mistake_v or_o strain_n beyond_o the_o tenor_n of_o their_o commission_n to_o intermeddle_v in_o the_o affair_n of_o christ_n consider_v first_o that_o they_o be_v compass_v about_o with_o their_o own_o infirmity_n as_o well_o as_o other_o man_n second_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o calling_n they_o be_v compass_v about_o with_o more_o tentation_n this_o way_n than_o other_o man_n three_o and_o last_o which_o be_v as_o much_o or_o more_o than_o both_o the_o former_a if_o they_o be_v christian_n what_o between_o the_o insinuation_n and_o flattery_n of_o the_o base_a and_o the_o inconsiderate_a affection_n and_o favour_n of_o the_o better_a sort_n of_o teacher_n they_o be_v teach_v to_o dash_v their_o foot_n against_o this_o stone_n as_o if_o it_o be_v
judge_n whether_o that_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o external_a power_n without_o the_o church_n if_o it_o be_v reply_v no_o because_o that_o church_n do_v implicit_o consent_v in_o yield_v their_o elder_n for_o member_n of_o that_o presbytery_n we_o reply_v that_o if_o either_o your_o public_a law_n constrain_v that_o church_n upon_o penalty_n eth._n invitum_fw-la dicitur_fw-la quod_fw-la quis_fw-la vel_fw-la coactus_fw-la vel_fw-la per_fw-la ignorantiam_fw-la admittit_fw-la arist_n eth._n l._n 3._o c._n 1._o kecker_n praecog_n sy_v eth._n against_o their_o light_n to_o suffer_v their_o elder_n to_o sit_v in_o the_o classical_a presbytery_n than_o that_o church_n do_v not_o free_o consent_v or_o if_o that_o church_n without_o constraint_n do_v consent_n for_o want_v of_o light_n as_o it_o must_v be_v suppose_v if_o a_o classis_fw-la upon_o debate_n be_v find_v to_o be_v beside_o the_o word_n this_o ignorant_a act_n of_o that_o church_n be_v a_o unwilling_a or_o involuntary_a act_n and_o so_o no_o free_a consent_n and_o so_o the_o classis_fw-la according_a to_o a._n s._n his_o distinction_n be_v like_o a_o magistrate_n which_o be_v a_o bishop_n without_o and_o about_o that_o church_n but_o good_a a._n s._n we_o know_v it_o be_v a_o easy_a matter_n to_o distinguish_v the_o magistrate_n sect._n 12_o into_o such_o a_o executive_a coercitive_a external_a power_n as_o you_o speak_v of_o but_o we_o will_v fain_o see_v you_o demonstrate_v he_o into_o it_o and_o then_o a._n s._n and_o m._n s._n shall_v be_v no_o more_o two_o but_o one_o s._n we_o know_v not_o how_o to_o transform_v distinction_n into_o demonstration_n his_o second_o distinction_n be_v of_o the_o subject_a of_o this_o power_n the_o magistrate_n who_o he_o make_v twofold_a true_o christian_a and_o not_o true_o christian_n but_o 1._o i_o will_v fain_o know_v by_o what_o touchstone_n a._n s._n will_v try_v his_o gold_n in_o this_o case_n i_o mean_v judge_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n in_o a_o magistrate_n it_o appear_v from_o page_n 50._o of_o his_o discourse_n that_o he_o have_v no_o mind_n to_o grant_v his_o truth_n of_o christianity_n unto_o a_o magistrate_n that_o be_v either_o lutheran_n anabaptist_n socinian_n or_o papist_n any_o of_o these_o misprision_n in_o christianity_n be_v as_o sufficient_a in_o a._n s._n his_o judgement_n as_o in_o we_o to_o keep_v the_o sword_n of_o that_o power_n we_o speak_v of_o out_o of_o the_o magistrate_n hand_n and_o as_o for_o a_o magistrate_n who_o judgement_n shall_v be_v infect_v perfect_v reason_n and_o truth_n will_v say_v with_o apologisme_n or_o the_o great_a hatred_n of_o his_o soul_n independency_n i_o make_v no_o question_n but_o he_o in_o the_o comic_a term_n shall_v be_v exclusissimus_fw-la from_o this_o capacity_n or_o right_n above_o all_o the_o rest_n but_o let_v we_o go_v on_o with_o the_o man_n in_o the_o term_n of_o his_o own_o address_n to_o sect._n 13_o the_o apologist_n in_o the_o same_o place_n if_o he_o say_v that_o by_o a_o magistrate_n true_o christian_n he_o understand_v a_o orthodox_n magistrate_n what_o if_o he_o have_v one_o or_o two_o error_n will_v he_o yet_o permit_v he_o to_o be_v orthodox_n and_o true_o christian_a or_o not_o till_o a._n s._n here_o specify_v sermon_n generales_fw-la non_fw-la movent_fw-la his_fw-la own_o rule_n for_o myself_o until_o i_o shall_v be_v otherwise_o inform_v by_o himself_o i_o shall_v make_v use_n of_o my_o reason_n to_o believe_v that_o by_o a_o magistrate_n true_o christian_n a._n s._n only_a mean●_n a_o magistrate_n who_o in_o his_o judgement_n be_v presbyterial_a and_o that_o this_o qualification_n of_o presbyterialisme_n and_o truth_n of_o christianity_n in_o a_o magistrate_n be_v against_o all_o contradiction_n and_o counter-poysings_a whatsoever_o termini_fw-la aequipollentes_fw-la in_o his_o logic_n and_o if_o this_o be_v his_o meaning_n the_o king_n to_o be_v sure_a have_v none_o of_o his_o power_n as_o yet_o in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la and_o jure_v in_o re_fw-la nor_o have_v the_o parliament_n at_o least_o for_o aught_o a._n s._n or_o the_o kingdom_n know_v any_o whit_n more_o of_o it_o then_o the_o king_n and_o whatsoever_o it_o have_v do_v hitherto_o by_o any_o executive_a coercive_a external_a power_n about_o the_o church_n or_o church-affair_n in_o which_o kind_n it_o have_v do_v very_o much_o depend_v as_o touch_v the_o validity_n and_o justifiableness_n of_o it_o upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o it_o presbyterialize_v whence_o it_o follow_v that_o he_o that_o can_v or_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o the_o parliament_n be_v of_o a_o classic_a inclination_n can_v with_o the_o leave_n of_o a._n s._n his_o distinction_n judge_v they_o to_o have_v do_v lawful_o or_o warrantable_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o have_v do_v hitherto_o about_o or_o for_o the_o church_n the_o truth_n be_v that_o till_o a._n s._n will_v please_v to_o define_v what_o manner_n of_o magistrate_n he_o must_v be_v that_o shall_v pass_v the_o 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