Selected quad for the lemma: power_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
power_n	king_n	law_n	restrain_v	2,948	5	9.3714	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A92075	The Cyprianick-Bishop examined, and found not to be a diocesan, nor to have superior power to a parish minister, or Presbyterian moderator being an answer to J.S. his Principles of the Cyprianick-age, with regard to episcopal power & jurisdiction : together with an appendix, in answer to a railing preface to a book, entituled, The fundamental charter of presbytery / by Gilbert Rule ...	Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701.	1696 (1696)	Wing R2218; ESTC R42297	93,522	126

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in_o these_o reason_n as_o have_v the_o power_n of_o baptise_v make_v nothing_o against_o we_o because_o all_o parish_n minister_n be_v so_o call_v and_o none_o without_o their_o allowance_n ought_v to_o intrude_v on_o their_o charge_n in_o this_o or_o any_o other_o administration_n and_o because_o the_o authority_n for_o baptise_v and_o other_o church_n work_n be_v communicate_v from_o the_o presbytery_n by_o their_o president_n the_o bishop_n he_o indeed_o give_v the_o power_n but_o not_o by_o his_o own_o sole_a authority_n but_o by_o that_o of_o the_o presbytery_n the_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n come_v next_o who_o say_v de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la cap._n 17._o the_o high_a priest_n who_o be_v the_o bishop_n have_v the_o power_n of_o baptise_v and_o after_o he_o or_o in_o subordination_n to_o he_o say_v our_o author_n presbyter_n and_o deacon_n a._n 1._o tertullian_n do_v not_o speak_v of_o bishop_n as_o distinct_a from_o the_o