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A01768 The copies of two speeches in Parliament The one by Iohn Glanvill Esquire. The other by Sir Henry Martin Knight. At a generall committee of both houses, the 22. of May. 1628. Glanville, John, Sir, 1586-1661.; Martin, Henry, Sir, 1562?-1641. aut; England and Wales. Parliament. Proceedings. 1628-05-22. 1628 (1628) STC 11904; ESTC S103133 8,463 21

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