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A96069	VVater upon the flame: by XX. queries propounded in the spirit of love and meeknesse, to the serious consideration of all Gods people; principally to the fifth monarch men, commonly so called. / By one that loveth the truth, and all good men; and one that neither hath, nor ever had, nor never intendeth to have the least place of profit, or worldly advantage by any change of government whatsoever.		1659 (1659)	Wing W1042; Thomason E989_12; ESTC R204047	13,299	16

be busie with Armes for him as other Kings are for them But it seemeth some of you are of opinion that the word NOW is Emphaticall in that 18. of John 36. where Christ saith But Now my Kingdom is not from hence implying there would come a Time when it would be from the World and that before his personall appearing To that I answer First The word NOW is ordinarily used in Scripture without any Emphasis at all as 8. Rom. 1. And there is this reason why it should be so understood here 1. Because to understand it to point at the Time present onely that Christs Kingdome was not then at that Time of the World and to make it imply there would be a Time before his coming wherein it should I say thus to understand it would make more Divisions of the World then the Scripture owneth We read of three and but three The first from the Creation to the Flood called the Old World 2 Pet. 2.5 Secondly from the Flood to Christs Second coming Luk. 20 3● called THIS WORLD And Thirdly from Christs Second appearing to the end of his Raign called 2 Heb. 7. The World to come Now your Interpretation of the word NOW maketh a Fourth Namely one between the time of Christs speaking those Words and his Second coming which is not found in Scripture But again Secondly I answer Though it were admitted that the word Now should be Imphatical and signifie a time wherein Christ Kingdome would be of the World or from the world yet it crosseth your doctrine because you say the Saints as Saints must fight for him to enthrone him you know the Saints are contra-distinguished from the world and said to be chosen out of it John 15.19 So that which way soever you turn this text it fighteth against you not for you Thirdly if there had been any time between that expression of his and his Second coming wherein he would have his Servants turn destroyers of men instead of Saviours and walk so contrary to himself and the plain Laws he had given in Matt. 5 to all his followers surely he would have been very plain in telling us when that time should begin and when a period should be put to those positive Laws given in that most excellent Sermon on the Mount 15. Whether you are not commanded in the 12. Rom. 17. To provide things honest in the fight of all men and was not this Pauls care 2 Cor. 8.21 Providing for honest things not only in the sight of God but in the sight of men And is not that a Scripture exhortation to be obayed by all Saints 1 Cor. 10.33 give no offence neither to the Jew nor to the Gentile nor to the Church of God and if so Whether it is possible to give a greater offence both to the one and to the other and do any thing more dishonest in the sight of every man then for private persons under the notion and name of Saints that can work no more Miracles then other men to countenance what they pretend to 1 Pet. 2.11 2 Cor. 5.1 11. He● 16. whose profession is to be strangers and Pilgrims on earth to expect a building of God a house not made with hands eternal in the Heavens after the example of Abraham the Father of the faithful 12 Rom. 17.12 Rom. 19. 1 Tim. 6.8 not to mind high things nor to avenge themselves not to strive but to be gentle towards all men meek and lowly having food and rayment therewith to be content Now for such to turn head upon all the great principles of Christian Religion according to the Judgment of all men upon the Scriptures to grow impatient heady high-minded to do that to others which they would not that others should do to them and without any respect to the positive Law of God and natural rights of men to force the Thrones of Kings and worldly Powers and to give Laws to the Nations Saying under Christ we must raign I say Whether is it possible for men to be more scandelous and do things more dishonest in the sight of every man 16. Whether is there not a great appearance of evil in your pretending to fight that Christ may raign whereas Christ doth not personally appear to raign and utterly disclaimeth as you have heard his kingdome to be of this world some of your selves doubt whether ever he will visibly appear on earth at all or no what then will the thoughts of men be of you if ever you should run upon any boysterous engagement but that through some bitter root or other you would pull down those in power to advance your selves and for a cloak talk of Christ his raign or at best that you are spiritually intoxicated through some enthusiastical fancy this must needs be the thoughts of the most except you could shew a Commission from Christ to take the Kingdomes of this world under his hand and seal that all men may know you deputed by Christ thereto from all others that make no such pretence 17. Whether your judgment being that the persons used in this smiting work shall be of an extraordinary qualification for goodness pure sanctified refined purged as gold and silver as the text you urge from Malachy speaketh And as John undefiled Virgins redeemed from amongst men from the earth And in whose mouth is found no guile and so without fault before the Throne of God I say do not you by this description of the men that shal be used in this work either bewray the intemperate opinion you have of your own goodness and worth or else publish to the world with a loud voyce that you are not the men for the present fitted for the work is there any one man amongst you or indeed in the whole world able to say I am pure refined purged as gold undefiled redeemed for the earth I am without fault before the Throne of God if you say you cannot say so why then do you entertain one thought to engage in such high and mighty work which is proper only to such by your own confession 18 Whether height of confidence boldness to suffer sence of comfort be any Argument alone of being in the Truth Paul was high in confidence that he pleased God when he draged the Saints to prison Acts 26. I verily thought I ought to do many things contrary to the Name of Jesus Doth not Christ say they shall kill you and think they do God good service 9. John 40. The Pharisees Iohn 16.2 Are we also blind And yet who so blind Are any more bold to suffer more confident of being in the Truth then the poor deluded Quakers If these things alone be no solid Argument of being in the the Truth then be intreated to found your notions practises upon the never erring Word of God rationally interpreted or let them go 8. Isa 20. To the Law and to the testimony if they speak not according to this word

Rev. 11.15 Mind the words And the Seventh Angel sounded and there were great voyces in heaven saying The Kingdomes of this world are become the Kingdomes of our Lord and of his Christ And the 1 Cor. 15.52 saith thus In a Moment in the Twinkling of an eye at the last Trumpet for the Trumpet shall sound and the dead shall be raised So then if the Time of Christs Reign over the Kingdomes of this world take place with the sounding of the last Trumpet which is Johns Doctrine And the sounding of the last Trumpet be at the Time of the Resurrection of the Dead which is Pauls doctrine Then how vain a thing is it to expect the Fifth Monarchy of our Lord Jesus Christ till after the first Resurrection 10. Whether by the Stone cut out of the Mountaine without hands be not meant Christ with the House of Israel onely or at least Principally Because the same Work that Daniel saith the Stone shall do Dan. 2.3.4.35 The same Work the men of Israel shall do See also and compare the 41. Isa 14 15 16. Who 12. Zach. 3. are called a burthensome stone And is it not harsh dealing in the Interpretation of Scripture to put that upon the Gentile Saints which the Scripture fixeth on the men of Jsrael where do we find the Gentiles called the men of Israel in all the Word of God 11. Whether the destruction of the Whore of Rome is not plainly declared to be the work of the Ten Hornes and not the Saints as Saints Though the Saints in common with the World may be used in the Work as they are Members of those Common-Wealths over whom those Horns have Power Rev. 17.16 The ten horns which thou SAWEST These shall hate the Whore and make her desolate and naked and shall eat her flesh and burn it with fire For the Saints as Saints to go about it then is to cross the word of God and I fear to run before they are sent 12. Whether you are not in a great Errour when you say Banner of Truth p 19● that the Stone spoken of Dan. 2.44 you find it to be Christ Jesus in the pure sanctified and refined Gentile Christians To prove this you urge in the first place Mal. 3.2 3. The words are as followeth But who may abide the day of his coming and who shall stand when he appeareth For he is like refiners fire and fullers sope and he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver And he shall purify the Sons of Levi and purge them as gold and silver then shall the offering of Jndah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the Lord as in the dayes of Old But how you should conclude the Text speaking of the Gentile Christians is strange Are the Gentile Christians called by the Name of the Sons of Levi The Persons of the Text are Sons of Levi Sons of Jacob v. 6. such as then were under the Law of Tithes vers 8. and are said to rob God in not paying of them Therefore not Gentile Christians A second Text you urge to prove the Stone in Daniel is meant of Christ in the Gentile Saints picked not out of the World onely but Churches also is the 14. Revel 4 5. but very impertinently in my apprehension Because the picked holy persons there spoken of are said to be One hundred fourty and four thousand which if we will suffer John to tell us who they are we must needs understand them of the Sealed Jews of the Twelve Tribes of the Children of Israel spoken of Rev. 7.4 and not the Gentile Christians Mind the Words And I heard the number of them that were sealed and there were sealed One hundred fourty and four thousand Now mark who they were OF ALL THE TRIBES OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL and so goeth on to the 8. verse to mention those Tribes particularly Therefore not the Gentiles But Thirdly to prove that the stone Dan. 2. that shall break in pieces and consume the Kingdomes of the Earth is not to be meant of Christ with the Jews but of Christ in the Gentile Saints you urge Christs words in the 21. Mat. 42. where he is spoken of under the Metaphor of a stone And where Christ telleth the Jews that the Kingdom of God should be taken from them given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof From hence you conclude that the smiting work of the Kingdomes of the world will be done by the Gentiles first and not the Jewes Here your Error lieth in the mistake of the sence of those words The Kingdome of God spoken of is the 21. Math. In that place it noteth onely the Gospel of the Kingdome Mat. 4.13 which Luke 10.9 Christ said was come nigh to them And 17. Luke 21. Christ said was amongst them And in this sense the Kingdome of God was taken from them Acts 13.46 according to Christs threat But you use the words to note the Kingdome of his visible Power and Dominion as a visible King over the Jewes which they were not in possession of Therefore not capable of a Threat to have it removed Yea though Christ had the Right of all Power given to him by the Father Mat. 28. yet not the right of actual exercise of all that Power at the same time Therefore Heb. 2.8.9 when Paul to the Hebrews had said He hath put all things under his feet presently subjoyneth But we see not YET all things put under his feet Yea Christ telleth his Disciples Acts 1.7 That the Time of Restoring the Kingdome to Israel was not for them to know And finding some of his Disciples supposing his Kingdome in your sense would immediately appear Luke 19.11 He putteth a Parable on purpose to rectify them the Substance whereof is that he must go to Heaven and receive Orders for it and return again before he execute it Which directly answereth to 7. Dan. 11. Rev. 15. and 2 Tim. 4.1 where his Kingdom and appearing are put as taking place together 13. Whether when Christ saith My Kingdome is not of this world or from hence as he expoundeth himself John 18.36 giving this for the Reason why his servants fight not for him Doth not this Text reprove with a high hand all humane force to enthrone him and consequently condemn your practise because he saith My Kingdome is not from hence that is from the World or worldly Powers as the Kingdomes of other Monarchs were Iohn 8.31 Mat. 21.25 1 Iohn 2.16 but from above from his Father Things of and from the world from men and from the earth are opposed in other Scriptures to being from above from heaven from the Father Here then seemeth to be Christs Argument if he were to come by his Kingdome as other Kings ordinarily come by theirs His servants would Fight for him as the servants of other Monarchs fight for them but since he was to come by his from another Power then that of men his servants need not