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A77758 The ordinance of excommunication rightly stated and vindicated from severall false opinions concerning it. By a lover of truth and peace. Feb. 17. 1645. Imprimatur. John Downame. Bakewell, Thomas, b. 1618 or 19. 1646 (1646) Wing B535; Thomason E325_9; ESTC R200624 8,442 8

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because_o they_o have_v some_o among_o they_o that_o hold_v the_o doctrine_n of_o balaam_n revel_v 2.14_o 20._o four_o excommunication_n be_v a_o divine_a censure_n and_o not_o a_o humane_a ordinance_n because_o it_o be_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n before_o they_o have_v either_o humane_a law_n or_o magistrate_n in_o it_o and_o afterward_o when_o they_o have_v king_n and_o einperour_n in_o the_o church_n they_o have_v submit_v themselves_o to_o this_o ordinance_n five_o it_o be_v a_o divine_a censure_n because_o the_o church_n be_v command_v to_o obey_v they_o that_o have_v the_o rule_n over_o they_o who_o also_o have_v speak_v unto_o they_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o they_o watch_v for_o their_o soul_n as_o they_o that_o must_v give_v a_o account_n heb._n 13.7_o 17._o as_o they_o rule_v in_o their_o family_n so_o they_o must_v rule_v in_o the_o church_n for_o both_o must_v obey_v they_o 1_o tim._n 3_o 4_o 5._o then_o this_o be_v contrary_n to_o their_o now_o model_n who_o utter_o deny_v that_o there_o be_v any_o such_o ordinance_n and_o will_v have_v the_o magistrate_n to_o rule_v in_o the_o church_n with_o regal_a power_n as_o they_o rule_v in_o the_o state_n but_o this_o be_v to_o dethrone_v christ_n of_o his_o kingly_a office_n in_o the_o church_n who_o place_v they_o to_o rule_v so_o in_o the_o state_n only_o and_o not_o in_o the_o church_n by_o the_o positive_a law_n of_o the_o land_n but_o minister_n rule_v ministerial_o by_o the_o word_n only_o and_o in_o obedience_n to_o christ_n and_o not_o to_o man_n second_o this_o be_v contrary_a to_o they_o who_o hold_v that_o all_o the_o congregation_n must_v rule_v judge_n and_o censure_n but_o if_o all_o shall_v be_v ruler_n who_o shall_v they_o rule_v and_o if_o all_o shall_v judge_v and_o censure_n who_o shall_v they_o judge_v and_o censure_v it_o be_v the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n those_o church-officer_n in_o that_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n that_o make_v decree_n to_o be_v keep_v &_o lay_v it_o 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