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A34353 Considerations touching the late treaty for a peace held at Uxbridge with some reflections upon the principall occasions and causes of the frustration thereof : extracted out of the late printed full relation of the passages concerning it. Dugdale, William, Sir, 1605-1686. 1645 (1645) Wing C5920; ESTC R200044 28,388 39

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