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j._n that_o whatever_n have_v be_v ever_o in_o the_o church_n by_o christ_n institution_n be_v essential_a to_o it_o sect._n 4._o by_o this_o he_o unchurch_v rome_n sect._n 5._o he_o say_v that_o every_o such_o thing_n be_v essential_a to_o the_o church_n but_o not_o to_o every_o member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o to_o such_o as_o have_v sufficient_a proposal_n confute_v sect_n 6._o by_o this_o their_o church_n can_v be_v know_v or_o the_o faith_n of_o a_o few_o may_v make_v other_o christian_n sect._n 7._o his_o assertion_n further_o confute_v sect._n 8._o his_o logical_a proof_n shame_v that_o every_o accident_n be_v separable_a and_o therefore_o all_o that_o christ_n institute_v to_o continue_v be_v no_o accident_n sect._n 9_o whether_o the_o belief_n of_o every_o institution_n for_o continuance_n be_v essential_a to_o the_o church_n sect._n 10._o they_o unchurch_n themselves_o sect._n 11._o he_o acknowledge_v that_o all_o christian_a nation_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o believe_v the_o 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