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A49440 Observations, censures, and confutations of notorious errours in Mr. Hobbes his Leviathan and other his bookes to which are annexed occasionall anim-adversions on some writings of the Socinians and such hæreticks of the same opinion with him / by William Lucy ... Lucy, William, 1594-1677. 1663 (1663) Wing L3454; ESTC R31707 335,939 564

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of_o st._n john_n in_o his_o revelation_n ibid._n xv._n the_o word_n be_v with_o god_n signify_v more_o then_o know_v to_o god_n against_o socinus_n and_o his_o follower_n 340_o eternal_a life_n before_o christ_n incarnation_n know_v to_o the_o angel_n bless_a soul_n prophet_n philosopher_n 341_o although_o not_o till_o afterward_o manifest_v to_o other_o 342_o the_o philosopher_n excel_v the_o socinian_o in_o this_o knowledge_n ibid._n xvi_o socinus_n other_o text_n of_o no_o validity_n to_o his_o purpose_n 343_o xvii_o the_o discourse_n resume_v concern_v knowledge_n of_o the_o word_n before_o the_o preach_n of_o st._n john_n baptist._n ibid._n xviii_o whether_o in_o the_o socinian_n or_o catholic_n sense_n may_v be_v more_o true_o say_v the_o word_n be_v god_n 345_o xix_o god_n with_o they_o no_o proper_a name_n but_o a_o appellative_a etc._n etc._n 346_o contrary_a to_o the_o use_n of_o it_o single_a throughout_o the_o new_a testament_n ibid._n xx._n how_o satan_n be_v call_v the_o god_n of_o this_o world_n etc._n etc._n 347_o how_o the_o belly_n god_n ibid._n the_o socinian_o criticism_n about_o the_o article_n ibid._n answer_v 348_o and_o socinus_n instance_n ibid._n how_o st._n cyrill_n rule_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v ibid._n xxi_o socinus_n answer_v about_o tautology_n 349_o as_o likewise_o to_o that_o objection_n god_n can_v be_v with_o himself_o 350_o lord_n and_o god_n not_o both_o one_o 351_o the_o word_n god_n with_o though_o not_o of_o the_o father_n ibid._n chap._n xxxiii_o i._o the_o socinian_o conceit_n of_o the_o word_n be_v with_o god_n in_o the_o beginning_n 352_o ii_o improbable_a have_v no_o evangelical_n authority_n 353_o iii_o that_o they_o pretend_v to_o prove'_v it_o not_o ibid._n the_o distinction_n of_o christ_n divinity_n and_o humanity_n illustrate_v ibid._n his_o ascent_n into_o heaven_n which_o they_o insist_v on_o not_o corporeal_a 354_o iu._n his_o double_a capacity_n of_o priest_n and_o layman_n allege_v by_o they_o discuss_v 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and_o why_o render_v be_v ibid._n why_o the_o evangelist_n choose_v to_o use_v it_o rather_o than_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d write_v of_o st._n john_n baptist._n 363_o ix_o socinus_n put_v his_o a_o diminution_n upon_o st._n john_n testimony_n of_o christ_n ibid._n which_o be_v evident_o affirmative_a of_o his_o divinity_n 364_o x._o socinus_n misinterpret_n creation_n by_o recreation_n or_o regeneration_n 365_o and_o misapplie'_v to_o his_o purpose_n a_o text_n in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o e●hesians_n 366_o another_o violence_n of_o he_o in_o wrest_v actual_a regeneration_n to_o regeneration_n in_o endeavour_n 367_o xi_o smalcius_n gloss_n ibid._n his_o various_a signification_n put_v upon_o the_o word_n world_n ibid._n where●n_v he_o impose_v fallacy_n upon_o his_o reader_n 368_o the_o bishop_n animadversion_n 369_o xii_o their_o sense_n direct_o opposite_a to_o that_o evident_a in_o the_o text._n 370_o xiii_o the_o genuine_a sense_n of_o the_o term_n not_o change_v as_o 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be_v man._n ibid._n which_o be_v assert_v and_o by_o a_o familiar_a instance_n illustrate_v ibid._n their_o objection_n answer_v by_o the_o dependence_n of_o substance_n upon_o god_n ibid._n another_o argument_n of_o smalcius_n 379_o answer_v by_o the_o manner_n of_o exist_v ibid._n christ_n a_o true_a man_n though_o a_o divine_a person_n 380_o who_o conception_n and_o gestation_n in_o the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v womb_n conduce_v nothing_o to_o his_o personality_n ibid._n the_o divinity_n and_o humanity_n unite_v render_v he_o neither_o two_o son_n nor_o two_o person_n ibid._n xvi_o objection_n of_o his_o be_v the_o same_o god_n with_o the_o father_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 381_o answer_n which_o identity_n implie'_v not_o that_o they_o be_v make_v flesh_n with_o he_o ibid._n as_o scotus_n illustrate_n excellent_o 382_o the_o bishop_n apology_n to_o the_o reader_n ibid._n xvii_o smalcius_n first_o quaere_fw-la etc._n etc._n rectify_v answer_v 383_o all_o action_n not_o always_o necessary_o according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o he_o or_o that_o which_o act_z ibid._n smalcius_n second_o quaere_fw-la answer_v and_o frustrate_v 384_o his_o three_o quaere_fw-la answer_v with_o reference_n to_o the_o discourse_n before_o concern_v the_o incarnation_n of_o the_o father_n and_o holy_a ghost_n ibid._n xviii_o our_o saviour_n mission_n derogate_n nothing_o from_o the_o authority_n and_o plenitude_n of_o power_n in_o himself_o 385_o which_o he_o exercise_v in_o give_v commission_n to_o his_o apostle_n 386_o chap._n xxxiv_o i._o the_o socinian_o opinion_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n 387_o confute_v and_o this_o prove_v that_o he_o be_v a_o distinct_a person_n of_o the_o trinity_n not_o a_o mere_a attribute_n of_o the_o deity_n ibid._n ii_o not_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n as_o they_o pretend_v out_o of_o holy_a scripture_n 389_o iii_o not_o the_o gift_n of_o god_n to_o certain_a man_n but_o by_o a_o figure_n 390_o a_o defiance_n to_o they_o that_o call_v for_o reason_n 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close_v with_o raymund_n lul_n who_o he_o vindicate_v against_o vasques_n 397_o and_o aymericus_n who_o make_v he_o a_o heretic_n ibid._n his_o advice_n to_o the_o pope_n and_o cardinal_n about_o convert_v the_o saracen_n 398_o his_o devout_a enterprise_n according_a to_o it_o with_o success_n ibid._n his_o like_a adventure_n among_o the_o moor_n ibid._n their_o cruel_a sentence_n and_o execution_n frustrate_v by_o his_o strange_a deliverance_n 399_o the_o notable_a effect_n of_o his_o suffering_n ibid._n vi_o lully_n undertake_n according_a to_o vasques_n ibid._n who_o argument_n he_o recite'_v and_o forme_n 400_o the_o first_o prove'_v a_o personal_a plurality_n by_o concord_n ibid._n another_o from_o equality_n distinction_n ibid._n vasques_n first_o answer_n except_v against_o the_o supposition_n of_o a_o real_a effective_a act_n in_o god_n ibid._n the_o bishop_n reply_n that_o lul_n not_o only_o suppose_v but_o prove_v i●_n ibid._n his_o lordship_n explanation_n of_o lully_n 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concern_v the_o creation_n or_o government_n of_o the_o world_n these_o he_o have_v no_o occasion_n further_o to_o busy_a his_o soul_n about_o but_o then_o when_o they_o be_v reveal_v by_o faith_n a_o contemplative_a soul_n ambitious_o strive'_v how_o he_o may_v climb_v up_o to_o they_o by_o reason_n these_o permit_v i_o shall_v undertake_v the_o question_n sect._n 3_o the_o first_o opposer_n i_o meet_v with_o be_v that_o great_a father_n of_o the_o school_n trinity_n aquinas_n himself_o who_o indeed_o have_v speak_v as_o full_o as_o any_o of_o his_o follower_n his_o discourse_n be_v in_o prima_fw-la parte_fw-la quest._n 32_o art_n primo_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la i_o answer_v say_v he_o it_o must_v be_v say_v that_o it_o be_v impossible_a by_o natural_a reason_n to_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o trinity_n of_o the_o divine_a person_n for_o it_o be_v prove_v before_o which_o be_v quest._n 12._o art_n 12._o in_o corpore_fw-la that_o man_n by_o natural_a reason_n can_v attain_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n by_o the_o creature_n but_o the_o creature_n induce_n to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n as_o effect_n induce_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o cause_n that_o therefore_o only_o can_v be_v know_v of_o god_n which_o be_v necessary_a to_o be_v affirm_v of_o he_o as_o he_o be_v the_o beginning_n and_o cause_n of_o the_o creature_n but_o the_o creative_a virtue_n of_o god_n be_v common_a to_o the_o whole_a trinity_n therefore_o it_o appertaine_n to_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o essence_n not_o to_o the_o trinity_n of_o the_o person_n thus_o far_o he_o and_o this_o be_v the_o first_o of_o his_o argument_n i_o will_v answer_v they_o by_o degree_n one_o by_o one_o for_o perspicuity_n sake_n to_o this_o first_o i_o shall_v answer_v that_o although_o the_o great_a part_n of_o knowledge_n be_v either_o draw_v from_o the_o cause_n to_o the_o effect_n aequiparance_n or_o from_o the_o effect_n to_o the_o cause_n and_o the_o first_o only_o can_v be_v apply_v to_o god_n who_o have_v no_o cause_n and_o who_o effect_n some_o way_n or_o other_o all_o thing_n be_v as_o from_o that_o one_o infinite_a be_v god_n yet_o raymund_n lul_n who_o i_o most_o honour_n in_o this_o case_n have_v think_v of_o other_o way_n of_o argue_v of_o as_o great_a force_n and_o convince_a a_o man_n understanding_n as_o these_o to_o wit_n demonstratio_fw-la per_fw-la aequiparantiam_fw-la by_o the_o proportion_n and_o equality_n of_o thing_n and_o per_fw-la similitudimem_fw-la by_o their_o likeness_n that_o by_o equiparance_n or_o equivalence_n he_o conceive_v to_o be_v when_o by_o one_o or_o two_o of_o a_o equal_a excellency_n a_o other_o quality_n be_v prove_v to_o be_v as_o excellent_a as_o thus_o because_o god_n be_v infinite_o excellent_a therefore_o he_o be_v infinite_o know_v infinite_o good_a again_o this_o argument_n from_o equivalence_n may_v be_v bring_v from_o the_o power_n to_o the_o act_n thus_o the_o act_n be_v proportion_v to_o he_o power_n where_o be_v a_o 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