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A88098 An after-reckoning with Mr Saltmarsh: or, An appeal to the impartiall and consciencious reader, and lover of truth and sincerity, against his last paper, called An end of one controversy, or an answer or letter to M. Leys large last book. Written by L.M. a student in divinity. Ley, John, 1583-1662. 1646 (1646) Wing L1870; Thomason E339_20; ESTC R200863 51,392 74

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who takes upon him affirmatively and distinctly to answer that question and it is d Palacius 2. de Bapt. c. 33. Palacius a Papist who sayth he baptized him thus I baptize thee in thine owne name who wast to come Wherein being so punctuall in his resolution he was too presumptuous Yet on the other hand they are as far out who say as e Marsilius Paludanus apud Lorin in Act. c. 19. v. 4. p. 705. col 2. Bellarm l. 1. de Bapt. c. 20. Tom 3. p. 35● some doe that Iohn used no form of words at all in the Baptisme of Christ Fourthly f Magdeburg Centur. 1. l. 2. cap. 6. Chamier Tom. 4. l. 5. c. 13. p 277. Some learned Divines hold that Iohn did at least sometimes baptize in the Name of the Father Son and Holy ghost although some g Bellarm. l 1. de sacra Bapt. c. 23. Papists do with such confidence deny it h Lorin in Act Apost c. 10. v. a. p. 704. col 2. as to hold it impudence to affirm it And they hold so the rather to maintain their Tenet against the Protestants of the essentiall difference of the Baptisme of John from the Baptisme instituted by Christ according to his command and commission given to the Apostles Matth. 28.19 But it is probable enough that he did in his Baptisme make mention of the Trinity because 1. He had the same warrant of divine authority for what he did which the Apostles had Iob. 1.33 2. Because i Sic argument Chamterus loce citato he was an orthodox Divine and acquainted with the Doctrine of the Trinity 3. Because at the baptisme of our Saviour there was a most cleare manifestation of the Trinity the father acknowledging his Sonne from heaven and the holy ghost lighting on him in the likenes of a Dove And therefore it is like he made mention of the Trinity at least after Christs Baptisme at Iordan by way of supplication or of sacramentall application though ordinarily he baptized In the Name of Christ Iesus or of the Messias which was to come But whether he used the one or the other form before the act or instantly with the act of Baptizing as our manner is at this day is very uncertain The third Querie Of the severall Formes of Baptisme which is the chief The cheif forme for authority and perpetuity and community is that whereof Math. 28.19 is the ground I baptize thee in the Name of the Father Sonne and Holy ghost And though it be not necessary to conceive that ministers are bound formally expressaly and precisely to apply these words to the act of baptizing yet since no sence is assigned to them when they are so applied but what is very congruous to the act of the Minister it cannot but be a very safe way explicitly to mention them in the baptismal action For whether we meane by I baptize thee in the Name of the Father Sonne and Holy ghost I baptize thee by the power authority or commission from God as Acts. 3.6 and Acts. 4.7 who is owne in substance three in persons Father Sonn and Holy ghost or whether by those words we imply a prayer for the blessing of the Trinity upon the baptized person or engage him to the profession of the fayth and worship of the blessed Trinity or what other orthodox sence we assigne unto the words they may well be taken in that sence when sprinkling water upon the party baptized or dipping him in the water we say I baptize thee in the Name of the Father Sonne and Holy ghost For this forme of Baptisme there is very good warrant of scripture reason and practicall example 1. For scripture the Text forecited out of Math as it is expounded is plaine and pertinent to which may be added the forecited illustrious testification of the Father to the Sonne and the apparition of the Holy Ghost in the forme of a dove at our Saviours Baptisme in the river Jordan Mat. 3. 2. For reason we say that in baptisme there is a concurrent operation of grace towards the party baptized who is within the Covenant k Gerard. Loc. Com. Tom. 4. p. 488. ¶ 91. whereby the Father receiveth him for a Sonne the Sonne for a Brother the Holy Ghost for a Temple 3. For practicall example we have first the Apostles who received a Commission from our Saviour to Baptize In the name of the Father Sonne and Holy Ghost which appeareth to have been the Apostolicall practize by the passage betwixt Paul and the Disciples found at Ephesus for when Paul had put the question to them Whether they had received the Holy Ghost since they beleeved and they had answered that they had not so much as heard whether there were an Holy Ghost or no he replyed with a question Vnto what thou were yee baptized as it were wondring that they that were baptized should not have heard of the holy Ghost which he had no cause to do unlesse there had been practicall example to baptize with mention of the Holy Ghost And if the Holy Ghost were named at Baptisme it is not probable that either the Father or the Sonne were omitted But whether the Apostles constantly kept to that forme is uncertain Popish Authors confidently contradict each other in this point for lPetr Lombard in Sent. l. 4. Distinct 3 p. 699. Peter Lombard resolveth that the Apostles baptized in the Name of the Trinity mEstius in l. 4. Sent. dist 3. ¶ 4. p. 40. col 2. Estius avereth that the Apostles alwayes baptized In the Name of the Father Sonne and Holy Ghost and he renders this reason Because of one Sacrament there should be but one forme especially after a forme is prescribed as it was to the Apostles Mat. 28.19 Others n Aur●olus in 4. Sent. Dist 3. Francis Long. in Annot. in Can Apost 40. p. 136. Harding de Cor. sabutra quespec art 2. say that they had for a time a dispensation to baptize In the name of Christ Iesus for speciall honour to that person and Name which was most exposed to contempt But if that had been a sufficient reason why the Apostles should baptize In the Name of Christ and not of the Trinity it is like our Saviour would have given his order of Baptisme under that form For the times after the Apostles we finde many testimonies for Baptisme In the name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost not only in the writings of suppositious or suspected Fathers as o Clem. Constit l 3 c. 16. l 7. c. 22. Clemens Romanus but in such as are acknowledged for legitimate as p Just Mart. Apot. 2. ad Anton. Pium an 150. Justin Martyr in his second Apology and in the book of confession or exposition of right faith which goeth under his name and if it be not his as there is q Bellar. de Eccles Scriptorib p. 64 Scultet medul patr part 1. c. 9. p. 34.