that the Author ought to haue proved them not to haue ben repugnant to the customes of the Realme but to haue bin in vse and practise before the making of that acte of submission For hee must proue sayth the Answerer that they are not repugnant to the customes of this Realme and shew vs how they haue bin vsed and executed heere before the making of the statute yea he can say that they are by lawe established among vs. Which points saith he because we learn by law quod facta noÌ„ presumantur matters in fact are not intended to be done vntill they bee proued so we must still put him to his proofes in the meane time say that hee hath gaped wide to say nothing to the purpose and that in his whole booke he hath talked but not reasoned All which asseveration of this Answerer if the same be true and if this plea be a good avermeÌ„t to barre the Author from having proved a learned ministerie to be commanded by the lawe dispensations for many benefices to bee vnlawfull excommunication by one alone to bee forbidden and civill gouverment to be vnlawfull in ecclesiastical persons then much more forcibly may this argument be retorted vpon all such as clayme alleage put in vre any portion of the forraigne canon law For sithence it hath never yet bene proved that the forraigne canon lawe vsed and executed at this day was accustomed vsed 25. H. 8. then because wee learne by law as he saith quod facta non presumantur wee must still put him his clients to their proofe and in the meane while tell them that their Advocat hath twisted for them but a bad threed when by his reason he hath vntwined all their lawes and broken a sunder the bands of their gouverment Moreover because it is not yet proved that the forraigne and papall canon law is not contrariant nor repugnant to the lawes statutes or customes of the Realme nor derogatorie to the prerogatiues of the regall Crown nay because the contradictorie hereof is affirmed and this denied and because we learne by law as he saith that matters in fact are not intented to be done â—ill they be proved so wee must still put the vpholders and executioners of this law to their proofe and in the meane while tell them that the forraign papall law is but a pretended necessary disused law that it is not inspired with the life of law and that it is fathered by them to be such a law as is an hedlesse a fetherlesse and a nocklesse arrow which is not fit to be drawn or shot against any subiect of the King And from this voydance abolition nullitie of forraigne and papall canon law because sublato principali tolluntur accessoria it followeth that all offices and functions of papall Archbishops papall Bishops papall Suffraganes papall Archdeacons papall Deanes and Chapters papall Priestes papall Deacons papall Subdeacons papall Chancelors papall Vicars generall papall Commissaries and papall Officials meerely depending vpon the authoritie and drawen from the rules and grounds of that lawe are likewise adnihilated and of no value Howbeit forso By the opinion of the CiviliaÌ„s the papal canon law seemeth to bee in force much as by the opinioÌ„ of some learned Civilians there seemeth vnto them a necessarie coÌ„tinuance of the same forraign and papall law by reason that Archbb. and Bishops doe now lawfully Apologie of certain proceedings in courts Ecclesiasticall as they say vse ordinarie Archiepiscopall and Episcopall iurisdiction which they could not as they thinke doe if the same common lawe were vrterly abolished and for so much also as some learned in the canon lawes do mainteyne that since the statut of 1. Eliz. c. 1. the Archbb. and Bb. cannot lawfullie clayme anie ordinarie spirituall iurisdiction at all but that the spirituall iurisdiction to be exercised by them ought to be delegated vnto them froÌ„ the King by a commission vnder the great Seale Forasmuch I say as there are these differences of opinions it seemeth expedient to be considered by what law by what authoritie Archbb. and Bb. exercise Archiepiscopal Episcopall power in the church And to the end this question may fully be knowen and no scruple nor ambiguitie be left what power spirituall may be intended to be exercised by them We distinguish spirituall power into a power properly called spirituall and into a power improperlie Power properly and improperly called spirituall or abusivelie called spirituall The power properly called spirituall is that spirituall power which consisteth and is conversant in preaching the Woord administring the Sacraments ordeyning and deposing Ministers excommunicating or absolving and if there be anie other spirituall power of the like propertie and nature Now that this power properly called spirituall could haue bin drawen from the person of our late Soveraigne Ladie the Queene vnto Power properly called spirituall was neuer in the Queens person Archbb. and Bishops we denie For the Queenes Royall person being never capable of any parte of this spirituall power how could the same be derived from her person vnto them Nemo potest plus iuris in alium transforre quam ipse habet Archiepiscopall and Episcopall power therefore exercised in and about these mysteries of our holie Religion ordinarily necessarilie must belong vnto the Archbb. and Bb. by the canon of the holy Scriptures otherwise they haue no power properly called spirituall touching these things at all The power which improperlie is called spirituall Power improperly called spiritual is indeed but a temporall power is such a power as respecteth noâ— the exercise of any pastorall or ministeriall church to the internall begetting of faith or reforming of maners in the soule of man but is such a power as whereby publike peace equitie and iustice is preserved and mainteigned in externall things peculiarly appropried and apperteyning vnto the persons or affaires of the church which power indeede is properlie a temporall or civill power and is to be exercised onelie by the authoritie of temporall and civill Magistrates Now then to returne to the state of the point in question touching this later power improperly called spirituall by what law or by what authoritie the Archbishops and Bishops doe exercise this kind of power in the church I answer that they cannot haue the same from any forraign canon lawe because the same law with all the powers dependaÌ„ces thereof is adnulled And therefore that this their power must ought to be derived vnto theÌ„ from Bb. where From whence then is their power derived Herevnto we answere that before the making of that act spirituall iurisdiction did apperteyne vnto Bishops and that Bishops were ordinaries aswell by custome of the Realme canons constitutions and ordinances provinciall synodall as by forraign canon law And Bishops remaine ordinaries by custome provincial caÌ„oÌ„s and statute law though papal canon law be abolished that therefore these canons constitutions
ordinances provinciall or synodall according to the true intent of that act could not still haue bene vsed and executed as they were before if the Bishops had not still remained ordinaries Moreover it is cleare by two statutes that the Archbishops Bishops ought 25. H. 8. c. 20. 25. H. 8. c 16. to be obeyed in all maner of things according to the name title degree and dignitie that they shall bee chosen or presented vnto and that they may doe and execute minister vse and exercise all and euerie thing and thinges touching or perteyning to the office or order of an Archbishop or Bishop with all ensignes tokens and ceremonies therevnto lawfullie belonging as any Archbishop or Bishop might at any time heretofore doe without offending of the prorogatiue Royall of the Crown and the lawes and customes of this Realme Let it be then that by custome canons provintiall and statute law Bishops bee and doe remaine ordinaries yet aswell vppon those words of the statute 25. H. 8. without offending of the prerogatiue Royal as vpon the statute of 1. Eliz. c. 1. there remaineth a scruple and ambiguitie whether it be not hurtfull or derogatorie vnto the Kinges prerogatiue Royall that Ordinaries should vse and exercise their ordinarie power improperly called spirituall without a commission vnder the great Seale or that such their power should be as immoderate and excessiue now as in times past it was by the papall canon law Concerning the first by the statut of 1. Eliz. c. 1. and by the statute of 8. Eliz. c. 1. the Queene was recognized to be in effect the Ordinarie The Queen was supreme ordinarie of ordinaries of Ordinaries that is the chief supream and Souveraigne ordinarie over all persons in all causes aswell ecclesiasticall as temporall Where it seemeth to followe that all the branches streames aswell of that power which improperlie is called spirituall as of that power which properly is called temporal should haue bene derived originally vnto the Bishop from her Highnes person as from the onlie head fountaine of all the same spiritual power within her Kingdomes in such maner and from and by such commission vnder the great Seale as her H. temporal Officers Iusticers Iudges had their authorities committed vnto them And to this opinion Maister D. Bilson seemeth to accord For all power Pag. 348 saith he is not onely committed to the sword which God hath authorised but is wholie closed in the sword Against the head that it shall not be head to rule and guide the feete can be no prescription by reason Gods ordinance for the head to governe the bodie is a perpetual and eternall law and the vsurpation of the members against it is no prescription but a confusion and the subuersion of that order which the God of heaven hath immutably decreed and setled Besides there resteth saith the Remonstrance Pag. 114. 130. vnto the Bishops of this Realm none other but subordinate delegate authoritie and that the matter heads wherein their iurisdiction is occupied are by and from the Christian Magistrats authoritie In whom as supream Governour all iurisdiction within her dominions aswell ecclesiastical as civill by Gods and mans law is invested and their authoritie ecclesiastical is but subordinat vnder God the Prince derived for the most part from the Prince From which two statutes iudgements of the 1. Eliza. c. 1 8. Eliz. c. 1 Governours of the Church conteined in these two bookes for these two bookes were seene allowed by the Governors of the church I leaue it to be coÌ„sidered if the Bishop did exercise the same improper and abusive spirituall power and iurisdiction ecclesiasticall onelie and alonelie in their owne names stiles and dignities and vnder their owne seales of office that also by authoritie of forraigne and papall lawes if I say the Bishop did these things after this this manner I leaue it then to be considered whether their exercise of such power were derogatorie and preiudiciall in a very high degree to the prerogatiues of the Royall Crown or not For my part because I find by the forraigne canon lawe that papall Bishops be the Popes sonnes and are privileged to carry the the print image of the Pope their father namely that they haue plenitudinen potestatis within their diocesses as the Ex de Maior oâ—â— Pope pretendeth to have power over the whole worlde For quilibet ordinarius saith the same law in sua diocaesi est maior quolibet principe and because also not withstanding what socuer the Bb. haue written that they were the Queenes Bb. and had their authoritie derived vnto M. Bilson pag. 330. them from the Queene they did in her life time put the same papall law in execution by the same law did take vpon them plenitudinem potestatis within their Diocesses I for my part I say can not as yet otherwise conceyue but that exceedinglie they did intrude them selues into the Royall preheminences priviledges prerogatiues of the Queene For by what other authoritie then by a certain plenarie power did they in their owne names for the gouernment of the The Bb. by a plenarie power devised promulged new canons with out the Queens assent seuerall Churches within their seuerall Diocesses from time to time make promulge and by vertue of mens corporall oathes put in execution what new Canons Iniunctions and articles soever seemed good vnto them without any licence or coÌ„firmation from the Queene first had and obteyned therevnto By which pretensed plenarie power it seemeth that the statute made to bring the Cleargie in submission to the King was covertlie deluded and our late Soveraigne Ladie the Queene cunningly bereaved of that regall authoritie over euerie partieular Diocesan or Ordinarie which notwithstanding by the Parleament was giuen vnto her Highnes over the whole body and state of the Clergie For if once there be no necessitie of the Kings licence assent or confirmation to such articles canons or iniunctions as euerie ordinarie shall make within his iurisdiction then must it bee intended that the statute of submission hath covertlie permitred severall members severally to doe to execute those things which apparantly in expresse termes the whole convocation was commaunded and with the same in verbo sacerdotij had promised not to doe then the which what can seeme more vnreasonable and absurd For then might all the Ordinaries ioyne hand in hand and agree all togither in one never in anie of their convocations assembled by the Kinges writt to devise make or promulge any canons Ecclesiasticall at all And what assent licence or confirmation from the King could then bee needfull Or how then was the Cleargie brought in submission to the King For then should it not be with them as it is in the proverbe A threefold coard is not easilie brokeÌ„ but then should it be with them contrarie to the proverbe for
they being all fast knit and bound togither vnto the Kings authoritie by a coard of 24 threads might easilie be broken but being severed and pluct a sunder into 24. Bishops can make no lawe without leaue And yet everie Bb doeth make many lawes 24 partes one from the other the King with all his regall power might not beâ— able so much as to breake one of the least threedes wherewithall one of their cordes was twisted If the Lorde Maior the Sheriffes Aldermen and whole communaltie of the Citie of London should promise vnto the King vpoÌ„ their fidelities not to set anie price vpoÌ„ Wines or other victualles by their common Councell within the said Citie vnlesse the King vnder his privie signett should first authorize theÌ„ so to doe were it not a meere collusion of the Kings meaning if everie particular AldermaÌ„ should sett prices of such things in every particular Ward But against the collection made from the Statutes 1. 8. Eliza the iudgement of the diuinies aforesaid the A collection made against the former reason by an Apologie for sundry proced by iurisdi Eccl. pag. 5. author of an Apologie to his vnderstanding reckoneth the same collection to be a very simple collection against the same hee answereth and reasoneth in effect thus If as is collected all power spirituall by a commission vnder the great Seale must be derived from the Queene to warrant the execution of it vnto him that is to exercise it then must the like warrant bee procured for euery temporall office to execute his temporall office But euery temporall officer must not procure like warrant to execute his temporall office Therefore a commission vnder the great Seale must not be procured to warrant the execution of the said spirituall power The consequence of his maior proposition being false he laboureth notwithstanding to make the same good and in effect for the same argueth thus All temporall authoritie as absolutly and as really is revested in the person of the Queene as is the said spirituall authoritie Therfore as all spirituall officers for the execution of the said spirituall power must haue their authoritie derived vnto theÌ„ from the person of the Queen vnder the great Seale so likewise must all temporall officers for the execution of their temporal offices haue the like commission The consequence of which enthimeme followeth not though the antecedent be true For although as well all teÌ„porall as all the said spiritual authoritie improperlie so called was reallie absolutelie in the person of the Queene yet herevpon it followeth not that by one and the selfe same meanes alone and namelie by a coÌ„mission vnder the great Seale all temporall and the said spirituall power in euerie part and braunch thereof should be drawen alike froÌ„ the Queenes person For there be divers and sundrie meanes to derive temporall authoritie whereas there seemeth to be but one onely meanes to derive the said spirituall authoritie and then marke the substance of the Authors argument Some temporall Officers as Stewards of Leetes Constables sundry other Officers must not drawe their temporall authoritie from the Queene by a commission vnder the great Seale Therefore no spirituall officers as Archbishops Bb Archdeacons and sâ—de vacante Deanes and Chapiters must drawe any of their spirituall authoritie from the Queene by a commission c. Which argument drawen from a particular affirmatiue vnto a general negatiue what weaknes it hath euery yong Logician can discerne And as for Stewardes af Leetes though they haue no Though all temporal officers drawe not their power from the Kinge by the great Seale yet by one meanes or other wtdrawe it froÌ„ the King commission vnder the great Seale yet for the executioÌ„ fo their Stewarships they haue a coÌ„mission vnder the Seale of the Exchequer Constables Decennary or Tythingmen and Thirdboroughes haue their authorities derived vnto the from the Kings person by the verie originall institution of their offices Sherifs of Countries Coroners Escheators and Verderors haue their offices and their â—uthorities warranted vnto them by the Kings writts out of the Chancerie But 〈◊〉 was not the mind of the Law-makers saith the Author that the Ordinaries by a commission vnder the great Seale should draw their saide spirituall power from the Queene What the mindes of the Law-makers were touching this poinct it mattereth litle or nothing at all Neither is it to purpose whether a commission vnder the great Seale bee necessarily required or not required by vertue of that statut 1. Eliz. c. 1. to warrant the said spirituall power vnto Ordinaries Only it sufficeth that the Queen having all power improperly called spirituall invested in her Royall person being really actually seysed of all the said supreme spirituall authoritie could not haue any parte of the same spirituall power drawn from her but by some one lawfull and ordinarie meanes or other For if this rule be true in euerie coÌ„mon person quod meum est sine mea voluntate à me auferri non potest how much more doth the same rule holde in the Royall prerogatiues rightes privileges dignities and supremities of a King Wherefore to saie that all supreme and ordinarie power improperly called spirituall was really and actually inherers in the Royall person of the Queene and to say also that some of the same inferior and ordinarie power not derived froÌ„ the Queen was neuerthelesse in the persons of inferior ordinaries is as much to say that some braunches of a tree may receyue nourishment from ells-where then from the roote that some meÌ„bers of the bodie are not guided by the head and that some streames flow nor from their fountaines And now to coÌ„clude this part against the canon law their Offices and functions thereof I dispute thus The forreigne and papall canon lawe with all the accessories dependances Offices and functions thereof is vtterlie abolited out of the Realme Therefore the same lawe is no part of the lawes of the Realme and therefore also it is evident that there will not followe any alteration of the lawes of the Realme by the taking of it away Which canon law also with other lawes functions how easely the same without any inconveniences may bee supplied shall God willing be presentlie made apparant if first we shall aunswere to that challenge which the state of Prelacie may seeme to make for the continuance of their Lordly primacie Chalenge for Lordly primacy out of the great Charter anâ—vered out of the wordes of the great Charter Concerning which challenge namelie that by the great Charter Lordly Archiepiscopal and Episcopall primacie or iurisdiction belonging to the state of Prelacie is belonging vnto them I demand vnto what Church this great Charter was graunted And whether it were not graunted vnto the Church of God in England The words of the Charter are these Concessimus Deo hac presenti Charta nostra confirmavimus pro nobis Mag. Charta c. 1.
if it may please him so to provide by Parleament may giue remedie vnto complaynants by writts out of the Chancerie and that complaints in such cases may effectuallie be redressed vpon such writts in the Kings Courts And if also sundrie matters of Tythes Testaments and Mariages be alreadie handled in the Kinges Courts if these things I say be so and so may be then with litle reason did the Admonitor warne vs that a verie great alteration of the common law must follow and that it will be no small matter to applie these things to the temporall law But the antecedent is true as hath bene alreadie shewed Therefore the consequent is true Admonition Iudgementes also of adulterie slauÌ„der c. are in these mens iudgmentes Pag. 78. mere temporall and therefore to be dealt in by the temporall Magistrate onely Assertion We are in deed of this iudgemeÌ„t that in regard of the Kinges Royall Office these iudgements of adultrie and other criminall causes comprised within this clause c. ought no more to be exempted from the Kings temporall Courtes then matters of theft murther treason and such like ought to be And for the mayntenance of our iudgementes wee affirme that there is no crime or offeÌ„ce of what nature or qualitie soever respecting any commaundement conteyned within either of the two tables of the holie law of God if the same bee nowe corrigible by spirituall power but that some fault and contempt one or other of the like nature and qualitie as comprised vnder the same commandement hath bene evermore and is now punishable by the Kings Regall and temporal iurisdiction For adulterie as the same is to be censured by penance in the Ecclesiasticall Courtes so is ravishment also buggerie sodomie to be punished in the Kings Court by payne of death And as hath bene accustomed that Ordinaries by ceÌ„sures of the Church may correct fornicators so fornication also as in some bookes written of the common lawe is reported hath bene in times passed presented and punished in leetes and Law-dayes in divers places of the Realme by the name of Letherwhyte whiche is as the booke saieth an auncient Saxon terme And the Lord of the Leete where it hath bene presented hath euer had a fyne for the same offence By the statute of those that be borne beyond the Seas 25. Ed 3. it appeareth that the Kinge hath cognizance of fome bastardie And nowe in most cases of bastardie if not in all by the statute of Eliza. the reputed father of a bastard borne is lyable to bee punished at the discretion of the Iustices of peace Touching periurie if a man loose his action by a false verdict in plea of land Periurie if punishable temporallie in some cases why not in all he shall haue an attaynt in the Kinges Court to punish the periurie and to reforme the falsitie And by divers statutes it appeareth that the Kings teÌ„porall Officers may punish periurie committed in the Kings teÌ„poral Courtes And though it be true that such periurie as hath risen vpon causes reputed spirituall haue bene in times past punished onlie by ecclesiasticall power and censures of the Church yet herevpon it followeth not that the periurie it selfe is a meere spirituall and not a temporall crime or matter or that the same might not to be civillie punished By a statute of Westminster 25. Ed. 3. it was accorded that the King his Vsurie heyres shall have the cognizance of the vsurers dead and that the Ordinaries haue cognizance of vsurers on lyfe to make compulsion by censures of the Church for sinne and to make restitution of the vsuries taken against the lawes of holy church And by another statute it is provided that vsuries shall 20. H. 3. c. 5. not turne against any being within age after the time of the death of his Auncestoure vntill his full age But the vsurie with the principall debt which was before the death of his Auncestor did remayne and turne against the heyre And because all vsurie being forbidden by the law of God is sinne detestable 13. Eliz. c. 8. it was enacted that all vsurie lone and forbearing of money c. giving dayes c. shall be punished according to the forme of that Act. And that everie such offendor shal also be punished corrected according to the Eccle. lawes before that tyme made against vsurie By al which statutes it seemeth that the cognizance reformatioÌ„ of vsurie by the lawes of the Realm partayneth onlie to the Kinge vnles the King by his lawe permit the Church to correct the same by the censures of the church as a sinne committed against the holy law of God Touching heresies and schismes albeit the Bishoppes by their Episcopall Heresies schismes are punishable by the Kings lawes and ordinarie spirituall power grouÌ„ded vpon canon lawe or an evill custome have vsed by definitive senteÌ„ce pronouÌ„ced in their Consistories to condemne men for heretickes and schismatickes and afterward being condemned to deliver them to the seculer power to suffer the paynes of death as though the King being custos vtriusque tabulae had not power by his Kinglie office to enquire of heresie to condemne an hereticke to put him to death vnlesse he were first condemned delivered into his hands by their spirituall power although this hath bene I say the vse in England yet by the statutes of Richard the second Henrie the fift it was lawfull for the Kings Iudges and Iustices to enquire of heresies and Lollardes in Leetes Sherifes turnes and in Lawdayes and also in Sessions of the peace Yea the King by the common law of the Realme revived 25. H. 5. c. 14. by an Act of Parleament which before by the Statute of Henrie the fourth was altered may pardon a man condemned for heresie yea and if it should come to passe that any heresies or schismes should arise in the Church of Englande the Kinge by the lawes of the Realme and by his Supreame Soveraigne power with his Parleament may correct redresse and reforme all such defaultes and enormities Yea further the King and his Parleament with consent of the Cleargie in their Convocation 1. Eliz. ca. 〈◊〉 hath power to determine what is heresie and what is not heresie If then it might please the King to haue it enacted by Parleament that they which opiniativelie and obstinatelie hold defende 1 Eliz 〈◊〉 1. and publish any opinions which according to an Act of Parleament alreadie made haue bene or may bee ordered or adiudged to be heresies should be heretickes and felons and their heresies If it please the Kinge heretickes may bee adiudged felons and hereâ—ies felonies to be felonies and that the same heretickes and felons for the same their heresies and felonies beeing araigned convicted and adiudged by the course of the common law as other felons are should for the same their heresies felonies suffer the paynes of death
there is no doubt but the King by vertue of his Soveraigne and Regal Lawes might powerfullie ynough reforme heresies without anie such ceremoniall forme papall observance or superstitious solemnitie as by the order of the canon lawe pretendeth to bee still in force hath bene accustomed And as these offences before mencioned be punishable partlie by temporall and partlie by ecclesiasticall authoritie so drunkennes absence from divine service and prayer fighting quareling and brawling in church and church yeard diffamatorie wordes and libels violent laying on of hands vpon a Clarke c. may not onlie be handled and punished in a Court ecclesiasticall but they may also be handled punished by the King in his temporall Courts By all which it is evident that the Clergie hath had the correctioÌ„ of these crimes rather by a custome by sufferance of Princes theÌ„ for that they be meere spiritual or that they had authoritie by the immediate law of God And if all these as well as some of these crimes by sufferance of Princes The cognizance of all crimes as well as of some crimes by the lawe of God belong to the King and by a custome may be handled punished spirituallie then also if it please the King may all these as well as some of these crimes without a custome bee handled and punished temporallie For by custome and sufferance onlie some of these crimes be exempted from the cognizance of the King and therefore by the immediate law of God the cognizance as well of all as of some of these crimes properlie apperteineth vnto the King And then the iudgment of those men who defend iudgements of adulterie slaunder c. to be more temporall and by the temporall Magistrate onelie to be dealt in seemeth every way to bee a sincere and sound iudgement Howbeit they doe not hereby intend that the partie offending in any of these things by the Kings law punishable should therefore wholly be exempted freed from all censures of the Church Nay we iudge it most requisite and necessarie No offendor freed froÌ„ the censures of the Church for the bringing the partie which offendeth to repentance and amendement of life if presentlie vpon sentence of death he be not executed that besides his temporall punishement the censures of the Church according to the qualitie of the offence may bee vsed and executed against against him yea and we thinke that the Kinge by the holie law of God is bound by his regal power to command the church dulie rightlie to vse the same censures not onelie against everie adulterer defamer vsurer c. but also against everie thiefe everie manslayer everie traytor and every other offendor For not onlie sinnes reputed with vs ecclesiastical but al sinnes of what kind soever ought to be repented of coÌ„sequentlie against all sinnes the ecclesiasticall censures ought to bee vsed And by whom should the same be exercised but by the church Why then belike where an offendour is punished in the Kings Court hee shall againe bee punished in the Ecclesiasticall Court and so for one offence be twise punished which were vnreasonable To this wee answere that it is not against reason that one man for one For a maÌ„ to be punished twise for one fault in two respects is not vnreasonable fault should bee punished both temporallie and spirituallie First he consisteth of two parts viz. of a bodie and of a soule in both which parts he hath offended Secondlie he hath offended aginst two lawes the law of God and the law of the King For the execution of which two lawes there be two kindes of officers of two severall natures the King for the one lawe and the Officers of the Church for the other law both these kindes of officers haue power given them immediatlie from God to execute the one Kinglie and temporal the other Pastorall spirituall power And therefore we say it staÌ„deth with great reason that the soule causing the body to sinne should no more escape that punishmeÌ„t which is appointed for the soule by the law of God then the body should escape that punishment which is appointed for the bodie by the law of the King why then the Officers of the Church may medle with matters apperteyning to the Kinges law what an indignitie to the King were that To this we answere that the Officers of the church in a severall respect and to a severall end dealing in one and the selfe same matter wherein the King dealeth may no more be charged with dealing in matters apperteyning to the Crowne by the exercise of their spirituall sword then can the King be charged with medling in the same matters to medle with matters perteining to the soule by the exercise of his temporall sworde So that the spirituall power of the officers of our Saviour Christ which consisteth onelie in binding and loosing of the soules of men can not possiblie by any reason or good â—ntendement bee construed now to be any more preiudiciall to the Kings prerogative or contrariant to the lawes of the Realme then it hath bin heretofore Because vsurie incontinencie divers other crimes ecclesiasticall haue not bin punished only by ecclesiastical correction but also by teÌ„porall peyne And therfore to take away this frivolous obiection we instantlie pray that the lawes of the Realm may still keepe their due and ordinarie course and that the Kinges Scepter may reteyne that ancient and Royall estimatioÌ„ which belongeth vnto it and that it may be ordered by an irrevocable law as followeth Potestas iurisdictio actionum quarumcunque civilium punitio castigatio externa omnium maleficiorum quorumcunque famam facultates seu personas tangentium non penes Pastores Seniores Ecclesiae sed penes vnum solumque Principem civilem Magistratum sunto quicunque ijs non acquieverunt capitali poena punivnto Whervpon also falleth to the ground that cavillous and odious slaunder following in the Admonition viz. that the lawes mainteyning the Queenes Supremacie in governing of the church and her prerogatiue in matters ecclesiastical as well elections as others must be also abrogated The contrarie whereof being avouched throughout this whole Assertion it shall be needlesse to spend any time in the refutation of so grosse an vntrueth Admonition Those lawes likewise must be taken Pag. 79. away whereby impropriations and patronages stand as mens lawfull possession and heritage Assertion By a statute 15 R. 2. c. 6. because divers damages and diseases oftentimes had happened and daylie did happen to the parochians of divers places by the appropriation of benefices of the same places it was agreed and assented that in everie licence from thence foorth to be made in the Chancerie of appropriation of any parish church it should be expreslie conteined comprised that the diocesan of the place vpon the appropriation of such churches should ordeine according to the value of such Churches a convenient summe of
and followes and vnto such like Officers fellowes The Cathedral The goverment in Cathedral churches not by one alone churches their livings and their landes their revenues their dividents their chapiters and their conferencies depend vpon the will and disposition of the Deane and Chapiter and not of the Bishop alone Neither can the Bishoppe Ex. de exces Prela c. 〈◊〉 Exc. de 〈◊〉 quaes cons cap c. novit alone by any ancient canon lawe pretended to be in force place or displace excommunicate or absolue any ecclesiasticall person without the iudgment of the Chapiter And aswell by a statute 21. H. 8. c. 13. as also by the booke of consecrating Archbishops c. the presence of divers Ministers and the people is required at the ordination of every Minister As for the deposition or degradation of Ministers vnder the correctiō whether the degradation of a Minist be warantable of the reverend Bb. be it spoken I thinke they haue not so much as any colour of any law for it The forme of the degradation of a Popish and sacrificing Priest by the canon law can bee no pretexte to degrade a Minister of the Monsieur de Plesis 164. in the seconde book of the Masse Gospel because a Minister of the Gospel is not set into his charge per calicem patinam with a cup full of wine dish full of hostes Neither receaveth he any charecter at al of a shaveling Priest And because a Minister of the Gospell is ordeyned onely after that manner which the statute lawe hath appointed howe should the ordination made by so high an authoritie bee vndone by any other power vnto the former maners of the administration of the causes of the Vniversities Colledges and Cathedrall churches may bee added the execution of ecclesiasticall iurisdiction committed heretofore by the Queene vnto the ecclesiasticall Commissioners For althoug by the words of the statute her Highnes had full power and authoritie The ecclesiastical commissiō exercised by manie commissioners and not by one by her letter patents to assigne name and authorize any one person a naturall borne subiect to execute spirituall iurisdiction yet neverthelesse according to the laudable vsages and customes of her kingdome and Courts temporal shee evermore authorised not one alone but diuers sundrie aswell temporall as ecclesiasticall persons for the execution thereof Which manner of commissiō because the reverend Bb. commend the same and avowe that it would doe more good if it were more common it cannot but seeme to bee a most gratefull thing vnto all good men especiallie vnto those reuerend Fathers if humbly wee beseech the Kinge that his Highnes would be pleased to make it more common And therefore in the The ecclesiastical commission commanded by the Bb. if it please the king may be enlarged vnto all Parishes wherein are godlie preaching Ministers behalfe aswell of the reverend Bb. as of all the learned and graue Doctors and Pastors of every church we most instātly intreat our most gracious Souverayne Lord the King that where in any Parish there shal be found a learned preaching Minister resident vpō his benefice that there he would be pleased by his authoritie Royal vnder the broad Seale to enable him and some other godly and faithfull Knights Esquires Gentlemen Citizens Borough-Maisters or other chief men of the same Parish to execute spirituall Iustice against drūkards adulterers swearers raylers and such like ecclesiasticall offendours inhabitants only within the same Parish For in this case we say as the reuerend Bb. say bonum quò communius eò melius If any No exceptiō to be taken against lay Elders to be authorized by the king in every Parish sithence the king authorizeth laie Elders in everie ecclesiasticall cōmission exception should be taken or challenge made scoffinglie and with scornefull termes against these lay parochians as heretofore hath bin vsed against laie elders or lay Aldermen as they call thē let him that taketh such exception advise him selfe wel and remember before he speake that in speaking he controle not the policie the practise the wisdom the authoritie both of our late Queen deceased and of our Souverayne Lord the King now raigning who authorized and doth authorize lay-men to bee ecclesiasticall commissioners Which kind of lay men or lay Elders as they call them that they haue ioyned in the exercise of the chiefest censure of the Church viz. excommunication with ecclesiasticall persons hath bin already proved by the sentence of excommunicatiō pronounced against E. by Maister W. and his associates whereof diuers were laie-men Againe if one laie Elder dwelling at Winchester may call and ssociate vnto him self one ecclesiasticall Elder dwellinge at S. Georges in Southwarke to excōmunicate any Parochian or Minister subiect vnto the iurisdiction of the Archdeacō of Surrey in what Parish soeuer of the same iurisdiction the partie shall dwell if it be lawfull I say Discipline of excommunication exercised by one laie Elder and one ecclesiastiall Elder for euerie ordinarie to ioyne one laie Elder one ecclesiasticall Elder together in cōmission the one to pronounce sentence of contumacie the other to denounce sentence of excōmunication for everie spirituall contumacie committed within his iurisdiction what reason can any man pretend why it should not be much more lawfull for the King by his Royall authoritie to apoint a learned preaching Pastor with the assistance of some cōpanie of faithfull inhabitants of the same Parish to exercise all maner of spiritual iustice within their own parish If the King shall stand in doubt whether any Discipline by excommunicatiō be exercised after this and this maner in the church of Englande then to put his Highnes out of all doubt hereof may it please the King to consider the precept of the reverend Bishoppes made in their convocation togither with the practise of the venerable Archdeacon of Surr. following The precept is this Vnusquisque Articlo pro clero c. de quibusdam circa excom excessib coercend 1584. Vicarius generalis officialis seu Commissarius qui ordines ecclesiastico non susceperit eruditum aliquem presbyterum sibi accerset associabit qui sufficienti authoritate vel ab ipso Episcopo in iurisdictione sua vel ab Archidiacono presbytero existente in iurisdictione sua munitus idque ex praescripto iudicis tunc praesentis excommunicationis sententiam pro contumacia denunciabit Everie Vicar generall Officiall or Commissarie which hath not taken vpon him ecclesiasticall orders shall call and associate vnto him some learned Presbyter who being armed with sufficient authoritie from the Bishopp in his iurisdiction or from the Archdeacon beeing a Presbyter in his iurisdiction shall denounce that by the prescript of the Iudge present the sentence of excommunication for contumacie Now the maner of the D. Hones practise of the Bishopps article practise of this precept ensueth in these wordes Iohannes Hone legum Doctor Officialis
by the scriptures it can not bee prooved that there be two seuerall distinct formes of ordinations the one called consecration proper to a Lord Bishoppe for the exercise of Discipline the other called ordination peculiar to a Pastor or teaching Elder for the ministration of the word and Sacraments Wherevnto lastlie If the Lord Bishop haue power to minister discipline by diuine right thē no more can he commit that his power to another thē he can commit the power which hee hath of preaching to another may be added another maine reason that Episcopall power in Englande to minister the discipline can not therfore be of divine institution because if it were of divine institution the Bishoppe could no more surrogate the same his episcopall power to his Suffragane to his Vicar generall or Rouland Allen to minister the censures of Christ in his owne name then he can depute them or any of them to minister the doctrine Sacramentes in his own name But how doth it appeare that the Vicar generall Rowland Allen or any other Presbyter did ever excommunicate by the power or in the name of the Bishoppe For the profe hereof we shall not need to search any other authenticall record then the precept and the practise before intreated of For it is not saide in the precept That the Presbyter being armed with authoritie from Christ but it is sayde that the Presbyter being armed with authoritie from the Bishoppe or Archdeacon shall denounce the sentence of excommunication the practise also of Doctor Hone every way confirmeth as much For therein Doctor Hone doeth not chalēge to be an officer vnto Christ but he sayeth that he is the officiall of the venerable Archdeacō of Surrey and that Maister Rowland Allen Presbyter by vertu of his office doth excommunicate the parties who obeyed not his mandates who made not their appearances before him c. If it be answered that Rowland Allen though he be not an immediate officer from Christ that yet nevertheles he is a mediate officer deputed to his office by an immediate officer vnto Christ vix the Lord Bishoppe or Archdeacon then we replie and say First that the Lord Bishoppe Archdeacon bee neither immediate or mediate officers appointed by Christ to be Ministers of his discipline Secondlie if they were immediate officers from Christ that yet they haue no authoritie by the law of Christ to transferre their right or any part thereof to an other person or to depute an other person in their name or by their authoritie to excommunicate As for these words viz In Dei nomine amen nos Iohānes Hone or nos Roulandus Allen c. sometimes vsed in their scedule of excommunication it is but a prophaning of the holie name of God whereby they make them selues guiltie of the taking of the glorious name of God in vaine And thus much touching both the question and answer whether the discipline of Christ may be ministred by the Bishoppes humane episcopall power yea or no. But now on the other side because no divine censure can lawfullie be executed in the church by that authoritie which is of humane institution if it be aunswered that the Bishop by reason of his pastorall Whether the L. Bishopp by pastorall authoritie may excommunicate a Pastor power which hee is saide to haue over all the Pastours and people of his Diocesse may lawfullie not onlie minister the worde and Sacraments but also the Discipline of Christ vnto them all then it followeth that by a Pastourall power one Pastour may be a Pastour of Pastors which is against the Scriptures and contrarie to the brotherly fellow-like authoritie which is common to all Pastours vnder the sunne and betwene whom touching their Pastourall functions there is to this day by the Scriptures as litle superioritie and as great a paritie as ever there was betwene Apostles and Apostles betwene Prophets and Prophets or betwene Evangelistes and Evāgelistes and as at this day there is betwene Bishops Bishops betwene Archbishops and Archbishops or betwene Patriarckes and Patriarckes yea and as is betweene Earles and Earles Dukes and Dukes Kinges and Kinges Emperours Emperours For no greater superioritie or preheminence hath any one Pastor over the person or function of an other Pastour touching the administratiō of any thing properly belōging Pastoures ouer small flockes are as truely pastors as Pastors ouer great flocks to either of their pastoral functions thē hath one Emperor over the person or function of an other Emperor or one King over the person or functiō of an other King or one Lord Bishop over the person or function of an other Lord Bishop or one Archbishop over the person or functiō of an other Archbishop or then had one Apostle over the person As great paritie betwene Pastors Pastors as between Apostles Apostles or function of an other Apostle Nay then hath one eye over an other eye one hand over an other hand one arme over another arme or one foot over another foote And therefore if touching the functions which Pastors either among them selues haue in common one with the other or which they haue over their flockes there be no disparitie but that the Pastors to whom small flockes are committed doe as reallie and as truelie participate of the nature of true Pastors as those great Pastours doe vpon whose great shoulders great burdens are imposed it behoveth great Pastors to prove vnto vs by the holie Scriptures that by the institution of their great pastorall functions they haue their power so enlarged as that thereby they may preach the Word minister the Sacraments and excommunicate and that on the other side the litle Pastours haue their power by the institution of their petie pastorall offices so streightned as whereby they may onlie preach the Word and administer the Sacramentes but not excommunicate it behooveth I say great Pastors to be able sufficiently to shew vnto vs these thinges out of the holy Scriptures or els it seemeth to stande with reason and equitie deduced from the same Scriptures that a Pastor over a few should haue like power to teach and to governe a few as a great Pastor over manie hath to instruct and to rule many Marie if they think that only great Pastors be true Pastors that great powers spirituall be only true powers spirituall then let them also conclude that onely great Knights be true Knights that only great Dukes bee true Dukes that onely great Kings be true Kings and that only great principalities temporall bee true principalities temporall Which conclusion Not onelie Kinges of great kingdomes but also Kinges of small kingdomes bee true kings if they shall iudge to be conclusionles because King Rehoboam had as large a patent to feede and to command two Tribes as King Solomon his Father had to command and to feede twelue or as the Archbishop of Yorke may suppose him self to haue over nine or tenne Counties as the
the Kings prerogative Royall be duely advanced Which things if it might please them rightly to consider then let them humblie and seriouslie beseech our Sovereine Lord the King and States in Parleament to giue their consentes to such a law as the proiect ensuing may warrant thē the same not to be dangerous to the overthrowe of their civill studies The Proiect of an Act for the explanation and amplifying of one branch of a statute made in the first yeere of the raigne of Queene Elizabeth entituled An Act restoringe to the Crowne the ancient iurisdiction over the state Ecclesiasticall and also for the declaring and reviving of a statute made in the first yere of King Edward the sixt entituled An Act what seales and stiles Bishops and other spiritual persons exercising iurisdiction ecclesiasticall shall vse FOr asmuch as by one braunch of an Act made in the first yeere of our late Soveraigne Ladie of blessed memorie Queene Elizabeth entituled an Act restoring to the Crowne the auncient iurisdiction over the state Ecclesiastical Spirituall and abolishing all forraigne power repugnant to the same it was established and enacted That such iurisdictions priviledges superiorities and preheminences spiritual and ecclesiasticall as by anie spirituall or ecclesiasticall power or authoritie hath heeretofore bin or may lawfully be exercised or vsed for the visitation of the Ecclesiasticall state and persons and for reformation order correction of the same and of all maner errors heresies schismes abuses offences contempts and enormities should for euer by authoritie of that present Parleament be vnited and annexed to the Imperiall Crowne of this Realme by meanes whereof it may now be made a questiō whether any Archbishops or other Ecclesiasticall persons having since that time vsed or exercised any such spirituall or ecclesiasticall iurisdiction in their owne right or names might lawfully haue done or hereafter may lawfully doe the same without speciall warrant and authoritie derived immediatly frō your Highnes by and vnder your H. letters patents And whereas also by a statute made in the first yeare of Kinge Edward the sixt entituled an act what seales and stile Bishops or other spirituall persons shall vse it was ordained that all and singular Archbishops and Bishops others exercising ecclesiastical iurisdictiō should in their processe vse the Kings name and stile and not their owne and also that their Seales should bee graved with the Kings armes And forasmuch also as it must bee highly derogatorie to the Imperiall Crowne of this your Highnesse Realme that any cause whatsoever ecclesiasticall or temporall within these your H. Dominions should be heard or adiudged without warrant or commission from your Highnes your heyres successors or not in the name stile and dignitie of your Highnes your heyres and successors or that anie seales should be annexed to anie promesse but onelie your Kinglie seale and armes May it therefore please the King at the humble supplication of his Commons to haue it enacted That the aforesaid branch of the aforesaid Act made in the first yeere of Queene Elizabeth her raigne everie part thereof may still remayne for ever be in force And to the end the true intent and meaning of the said statute made in the first yeere of King Edward the sixt may be declared and revived that likewise by the authoritie aforesaid it may be ordayned and enacted that all and singular Ecclesiastical Courts and Consistories belonging to any Archb. Bb. Suffraganes Colege Deane and Chapiter Prebendarie or to any Ecclesiasticall person or persons whatsoever and which haue heretofore bin commonly called reputed taken or knowne to bee Courts or Consistories for causes of instance or wherein any suite complaint or action betwene partie and partie for any matter or cause wherin iudgment of law civil or canon hath bin or is required shall and may for ever hereafter be reputed taken and adiudged to be Courts and iudgmentseats meerely civill secular and temporall and not hence foorth Ecclesiasticall or spirituall and as of right belonging and apperteyning to the Royall Crowne and dignitie of our Soveraigne Lorde Kinge Iames that nowe is his heyres and successors for ever And that all causes of instance and controversies betwene partie partie at this day determinable in any of the said Courts heretofore taken and reputed ecclesiasticall shall for ever hereafter bee taken reputed and adiudged to be causes meerely civill secular and temporall as in trueth they ought to be and of right are belonging and appertayning to the iurisdiction of the Imperiall Crowne of this Realme And further that your H. liege people may be the better kept in awe by some authorised to be your H. Officers Ministers to execute iustice in your Highnes name and vnder your H. stile and title of King of England Scotlād Frāce and Ireland defendor of the faith c. in the said Courtes and Constories and in the said causes and controversies Bee it therefore enacted by the authoritie aforesaid That all the right title and interest of in and to the said Courts and Consistories and in and to the causes controversies aforesaide by any power iurisdiction or authoritie heretofore reputed Ecclesiasticall but by this Act adiudged civill secular and temporall shall for ever hereafter actually and reallie be invested and appropried in and to the Royall person of our Soveraigne Lord the King that now is his heyres successors Kinges and Queenes of this Realme And that it shall and may bee lawfull to and for our saide Soveraigne Lord and King his heyres and successors in all and everie Shire and Shires Diocesse and Diocesses within his H. Dominions and Countries by his and their letters patents vnder the great Seale of England from tyme to tyme and at all tymes to nominat and appoint one or moe able and sufficient Doctor or Doctors learned in the civill law to be his and their civil secular and temporal Officer and Officers Minister and Ministers of Iustice in the same civill secular and temporall Courts Consistories which in and ouer his and their royall name stile and dignitie shall as Iudge and Iudges doe perform execute all and every such act and acts thing and things whatsoeuer in and about the execution of iustice and equitie in those Courts according to the course and order of the civill lawe or the Ecclesiasticall canons and constitutions of the Realme as heretofore hath bin vsed and accustomed to bee done by for or in the name of any Archbb. Bb College Cathedral Church Deane Archdeacon Prebendary or any other Ecclesiasticall person or persons whatsoeuer And that all and every such civill secular and temporall Officer and Officers Minister and Ministers Iudge Iudges in his and their processe shall vse one manner of Seale only and none other hauing graued decently therein your Kingly armes with certaine characters for the knowledge of the Diocesse or Shire And further bee it enacted c That it shall and may be lawfull by
of Tythes Testaments and Matrimonie matters also of adulterie slander c. are in these mens iudgments mere teÌ„poral c. therefore to bee dealt in by the temporall Magistrate onely which as yet haue eyther none at all or very fewe lawes touching those things therefore the common lawe of the Realme must by that occasion receaue also a verie great alteration For it wil bee no small matter to applie these things to the temporal law to appoint Courts Officers and manner of processe and proceedings in iudgement for the same Assertion In deed we hold that all these matters whereof mention is here made and all Matters of tythes and other causes of like nature perteine to civill Iustice others of the like nature are merely civill and temporall and by the temporall Magistrate alone to bee dealt in and to be discussed if we consider the administration of externall and civill iustice And this wee thinke wil be graunted of all and not be denied of any vnlesse they be too to popishly addicted In regard whereof wee haue drawen as before is mentioned a proiect howe Courts and maner of processe and proceedinges in iudgement by Doctors of the civill law may be appointed by the King and his high Court of ParleameÌ„t without that that the common law of the Realme by the occasion of any such courts officer or maner of processe and proceedings must receave any alteration at al muchlesse a very great alteration Howbeit if it should not please the King and that the Civilians could not finde favour in his sight by courts offices and maner of processe and proceedings in iudgement before specified or by the like to have the studie of the civill law advanced yet we thinke it convenient once againe to â—owe matters of Tythes c. may be dealt in by the Kings Iudges be examined howe these matters may be dealt in according to the rules grouÌ„dâ— of the common lawe before the Kings Iudges and Iustices of the Kings bench and common pleas By a statute of 32. H. 8. c. 7. it is cleare that all tythes oblations c. and other ecclesiasticall or spirituall profits by the lawe or statutes of the Realme may bee made temporal as being admitted to be abide go to and in temporall hands laye vses and profits From the reason 〈◊〉 which statute it is cleere that those lawâ—â— likewise may be reckoned amongst 〈◊〉 for temporall lawes which by the lawâ—â— and statutes of the Realme may be executed by temporall and lay persons and which are conversant about temporall and lay causes If then the execution of the lawes touching these matters may lawfully remaine abide in the hands of Doctors of the civill law being temporall and lay persons as alreadie vnder the Bishops they doe it can not be denied but that the Kings Iudges and Iusâ—icers of both Benches may be as competible Iudges to put in execution the lawes concerning these matters as Doctors of the civill law or other lay-men be But the causes are not reputed and called temporall lay causes amongst vs. What for that if in their owne nature simply considered these causes bee meerely laye and temporall causes such causes I meane as whereof the King a â—ay civill and temporall Magistrate by his lay civill and temporal Magistracie â—erived vnto him immediatly from the holy law of God may and ought to take â—ognizaÌ„ce thervpoÌ„ either in his own Royall person or by the person of any of his inferior Officers may giue absoâ—te peremptorie iudgement If I say â—hese things be so what booteth it or that wisedom is it contend that these causes and matters have bin and are stil adiudged to be therefore ecclesiasticall no temporal causes because through an abusive speech or through a vaine and evill custome they haue bin so called and accompted in times past And what if it hath pleased the Kinges Progenitors by sufferance to tollerate the execution of such lawes as concerne these things to be in the hands power of Ecclesiasticall persons yet here vpon it followeth not that in very deede and trueth the Magistracie of the said ecclesiasticall persons was an ecclesiasticall Magistracie or that they were ecclesiasticall Magistrats but their Magistracie was and remayned still a temporall magistracie they were and aboade temporall Magistrates For not more can the qualitie of the person alter the nature of the cause then can the qualitie of the cause alter the nature of the person And if it be true that matters determinable in tymes past by a Magistracie abusivelie called ecclesiastical be notwithstandinge properlie temporaâ—â— matters and that the same Magistracie also be a temporall no spirituall Magistracie what a childish poore coÌ„ceit is it to challenge threp vpoÌ„ the teÌ„porall Magistrat that he hath none or verie few temporall lawes touching those matters And that therefore the people should not sollicit an alteratioÌ„ of abuses in Church-goverment least for want of temporall lawes the people should bee without ecclesiasticall discipline It will be no small matter saith hee to applie these things to the temporall lawe yea and so say I to But what of that The question is not how hardly these things may be applied to the temporall lawe but how small a matter it were to applie the temporall law vnto these thinges For it is not said in any law that casus ex iuribus but it is said in all lawes that The temporal law may easily be applied to causes nowe reputed ecclesiasticall ex casibus â—ura nascuntur And in deede the Phisition applieth not the disease to his phisicke but he prepareth his phisicke for the disease The husband-man he measureth not his grouÌ„d by the seed but his seed by the ground The Draper he meateth not his yarde by the cloth but his cloth by the yarde If in like maner the temporall lawes and the grounds and rules thereof were applied to these matters of tythes marriages c. whereof he speaketh what more alteration could there be of the temporall law by such an application then there is an alteration of the pluÌ„met by laying it to the stone or then there is an alteration of the rule or yard by laying them to the timber cloth Besides he that rightly and after an exact equall proportion can apply one rule or maxime of the teÌ„porall lawe to many more cases then wherevn to it hath bin vsually in former times applied he may rather be reputed an additioner then an alterer of the law But how may the temporall lawe be applied to those matters How even so and so as followeth By the statute 32. Howe Tythes may bee recouered in the Kings teÌ„porall Courts H. 8. c. 7. it is declared that tythes oblations c. and other ecclesiastical or spirituall profitts c. beinÌ„g in laye mens handes to laye vses be no more ecclesiasticall but temporall goods and profittes and that if any person were disseysed
should we think Prelacie to be but eyther Oligarchie or Tyrannie For neither Monarchie may it be neyther Pollicie Prelacie either Oligarchie or tyrannie or polliticall estate can it be and other kinde of government besides these there is not anie For my part I more charitably iudge of the government of the Church by Prelacie then to match it with Tyrannie And although the Admonitor and the Pervsers and allowers of his booke were men in their generation wise yet had they well weighed the nature of the goverment of Oligarchie they would rather in this argumēt haue bin silent then vpon disclayme of Democracie and Aristocracie goverments both of them commendable in their kinde haue cast the commendation of their owne goverment of the Church by Prelacie to so desperat an estate as is the estate of Oligarchie Wherein if any doe glorie because not many of the best but some fewe of the wealthiest and richest sort doe governe then lett him hearken and cōsider what long since was preached before Pope Vrban the fifte by Act. Mo. one Nicolas Orem a man singularly commended for learning in his time Nicholas Orem his opinion of Oligarchie Amongst all the regiments of the Gentiles none saith he is more to be found wherein is to bee seene so great and exceeding ods thē in the policie of Priests Amongst whom one is drunken another is sterved amongst whom some be so high that they exceed all Nobles Princes of the Earth some againe be so abased that they are vnder all rascalls and such a common weath saith hee may well bee called Oligarchie But Thomas Aquinas he seemeth to set the discommodities of Oligarchie a pinne Thomas Aquinas what hee thinketh of Oligarchie higher for saith hee as a Kingdome hath in it the commodities of all other good regiments of Aristocracie that the Noblest and chiefest persons among Aristocracie a good regiment the people be taken to Councell of Policie or politicall estate where an assemblie of all estates is had whē the very best of all sorts are chosen to consult and deliberate of the publique weale so doeth Tyrannie conteine and hath in it all incommodities and vices of all naughtie corrupt regiments of Oligarchie it borroweth that the most wicked Oligarchie a corrupt regiment corruptest men be Counsaylors that as it were a route of Tyrants doe govverne The reasons and pillers of which Oligarchie are immoderatnes excessivenes disparitie and inequalitie passing and beyond all meane and measure Now if our reverend Bb. shall shew them selues to bee mal-contented with mee as though out of the opinions of these learned men I would gather that the governement of the Church by Prelacie is one of the corruptest governements I am to desire them to haue patience vntill they shall plainly demonstrate vnto vs that the same is not Oligarchie For if hereafter they shall revoke their former disgraceful iudgmēts against the discipline by Pastors and Elders conteyning in it the very nature of true Aristocracie and withall instruct vs better of the true nature of their own governement of the Church by Prelacie they shall finde vs plyable to their opinion so that it be grounded vpon the principles and reasons of trueth In the meane season after the fashion of the Admonitors maner of admonishing the people wee most humbly beseech the King and Parleament to bee enformed that it is greatly to be feared if Prelacie be Oligarchie that the Prelates will endevour It is to bee feared least by the exāple of Prelates Oligarchie bee brought in the common weale to transferre that maner of goverment frō the Church vnto the common weale And that the cōmon weale shall as miserably be rent torne with factions vproares as now the church is disquieted by schismes and divisions For if only a few of the richest and welthiest sort shal get an head and beare all the sway in the cōmon weale they shall thinke by the principles and reasons of Oligarchie that they haue iniury if they haue not as much to do in civil matters as the Prelats haue to doe in the matters of the Church And what hereof may follow as the Admonitor leaveth so doe I also leaue it to the iudgement of other Onelie if the way hereof alreadie hath bin troden out vnto them by some who A caueat against Oligarchie haue not written nor spoken but yet practised the principles and reasons of Oligarchie in the common weale onelie then this I say and adde as a caveat that the daunger to come is more heedefully to be prevēted For like as in good harmonie to make the Musike perfaict is required a moderate proportionate inequalitie of voyces which if it too much exceed taketh away all the sweet melodie so by too much immoderate inequalitie or disparitie of Citizens the common weale falleth to ruine But why may not the governement of the The gouerment of the Church by Prelacie is not Monarchicall Church by Prelacie be a Princely and a Royall governement In deed this question if it should be resolued by the rules and principles of the canon law I could hardly disproue that government to be Princelike for as hath bin saide before quilibet Ordinarius in sua Diocoesi est maior quolibet Principe Yea and every Bishop by the same lawe hath as absolute a spirituall power within his Diocesse as a Kinge hath a temporall power within his Kingdome But because that law with the rules principles thereof is or ought to be discarded out of this Kingdome we will not wade in it Only we say that the governement of the Church by Prelacie cannot bee any kinde of Royall and Monarchicall governement because Prelates haue not like power spirituall as Kings and Monarches haue power rēporall For there was never yet lex regia de Prelatorum spirituali imperio lata qua Prelatis Institut de iure natur gent ci § Sed quod in eos omne imperium suum potestatem aut Deus aut populus Dei contulerit And therfore where the people haue made the fore said regall law as there it is iustly said quodcunque Imperator per epistolam constituit vel cognoscens decreuit vel edicto praecepit legem esse constat and quod Principi placuit legis habet vigorem So likewise where there is no such regall law made in the church there it is as iustly affirmed quod Prelato placuit legis non habei vigorem quodcunque Prelatus per epistolam constituit cognoscens decrevit vel canone praecepit legem non esse constat And then how can every Prelate or why doth everie Prelate by his sole authoritie inioyne canons articles iniunctions and orders to be observed as lawes in all the Churches of his iurisdiction If the Admonitor supposed the governement If the gouvernment of the Church by Prelacie bee Monarchicall thē may the government by Pastors be