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our_o purpose_n here_o but_o however_o this_o be_v or_o be_v not_o it_o be_v clear_a enough_o first_o that_o by_o no_o civil_a law_n of_o the_o roman_a emperor_n clerk_n have_v be_v ever_o yet_o at_o any_o time_n exempt_v in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a magistrate_n or_o from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n of_o his_o law_n which_o i_o take_v to_o be_v so_o absolute_o certain_a that_o bellarmine_n himself_o for_o proof_n of_o his_o three_o proposition_n which_o he_o have_v cap._n 28._o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr cler._n in_o these_o general_a word_n non_fw-la possunt_fw-la clericiâ—a_fw-la judicâ—_fw-la seculari_fw-la judicari_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la leges_fw-la civiles_fw-la non_fw-la servant_n have_v not_o the_o confidence_n to_o alleadg_n any_o other_o imperial_a or_o civil_a constitution_n but_o only_o those_o of_o the_o emperor_n justinian_n novel_n 79._o 83._o and_o 123._o where_o yet_o bellarmine_n confess_v this_o emperor_n decree_v no_o more_o but_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n and_o monk_n from_o secular_a that_o be_v lay_v judicatory_n in_o civil_a cause_n only_o and_o not_o in_o criminal_a nay_o confess_v that_o for_o criminal_a cause_n the_o same_o justinian_n particular_o and_o express_o decree_v in_o these_o very_a novel_n that_o clergieman_n be_v subject_a still_o to_o the_o lay_n or_o civil_a praetor_n jurisdiction_n with_o this_o caution_n only_o that_o judgement_n of_o death_n be_v not_o pronounce_v in_o the_o praetor_n court_n against_o a_o clerk_n before_o he_o be_v degrade_v by_o the_o bishop_n so_o that_o by_o the_o very_a concession_n and_o confession_n of_o bellarmine_n himself_o it_o be_v not_o only_o clear_a enough_o that_o no_o civil_a constitution_n can_v be_v produce_v for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o supreme_a lie_v power_n but_o also_o clear_a enough_o that_o no_o such_o can_v be_v plead_v for_o their_o exemption_n in_o such_o cause_n from_o all_o subordinate_a 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cum_fw-la possit_fw-la summus_fw-la pontifex_fw-la imperatori_fw-la praecipere_fw-la in_fw-la iis_fw-la praesertim_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la pertinent_a whereas_o say_v he_o the_o supreme_a pontiff_n or_o pope_n may_v command_v the_o emperor_n especial_o in_o such_o thing_n as_o concern_v the_o church_n where_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o bellarmine_n confess_v plain_o there_o be_v no_o civil_a institution_n or_o law_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o civil_a or_o lay_a court_n for_o the_o reader_n be_v to_o take_v notice_n here_o that_o by_o the_o civil_a law_n in_o this_o matter_n no_o other_o civil_a law_n be_v understand_v but_o that_o only_a of_o emperor_n from_o which_o indeed_o original_o and_o only_o all_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n proceed_v even_o in_o those_o christian_a country_n which_o have_v shake_v off_o the_o yoke_n and_o even_o in_o those_o too_o which_o never_o yet_o be_v under_o that_o of_o the_o imperial_a power_n or_o law_n but_o have_v make_v themselves_o peculiar_a municipal_a law_n which_o yet_o albeit_o they_o be_v mere_o and_o proper_o civil_a law_n yet_o be_v they_o not_o the_o civil_a law_n whereof_o bellarmine_n treat_v and_o his_o other_o associate_n contend_v as_o we_o be_v sure_o they_o give_v more_o exemption_n to_o clerk_n either_o in_o criminal_a or_o civil_a cause_n than_o those_o of_o the_o roman_a emperor_n do_v but_o forasmuch_o as_o many_o of_o our_o clerk_n be_v ignorant_a of_o that_o spring_n of_o their_o exemption_n whatever_o this_o exemption_n true_o &_o ground_o be_v as_o other_o be_v no_o less_o ungrateful_a for_o not_o acknowledge_v it_o i_o will_v oblige_v those_o and_o check_v these_o by_o lay_v here_o before_o their_o eye_n the_o very_a first_o law_n &_o the_o several_a degree_n of_o they_o whereby_o they_o come_v by_o the_o mere_a favour_n of_o the_o roman_a emperor_n to_o that_o exemption_n from_o secular_a court_n which_o they_o have_v true_o ever_o 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that_o religion_n be_v call_v clerk_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v obnoxious_a to_o nomination_n or_o susception_n that_o be_v that_o if_o they_o be_v name_v or_o elect_v for_o any_o civil_a office_n of_o magistracy_n or_o wardship_n or_o of_o gather_v of_o tax_n tribute_n etc._n etc._n yet_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v bind_v to_o undergo_v any_o such_o whereas_o before_o that_o law_n or_o privilege_n christian_a clerk_n be_v name_v or_o elect_v be_v bind_v to_o undergo_v all_o such_o office_n without_o any_o such_o excuse_n at_o all_o but_o eight_o year_n after_o this_o law_n so_o make_v the_o same_o câ—nstantine_n make_v another_o whereby_o he_o give_v a_o general_a exemption_n to_o such_o clerk_n from_o all_o kind_n of_o civil_a office_n l._n 1._o &_o 2._o cod._n theod._n the_o episcop_n &_o cleric_a l._n 16._o wherein_o he_o give_v the_o reason_n of_o this_o privilege_n lest_o say_v he_o clerk_n sacrilego_fw-la liuâ—re_fw-la quorundam_fw-la a_o divinis_fw-la obsequiis_fw-la 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be_v subject_a in_o temporal_a matter_n tâ—_n king_n and_o king_n to_o bishop_n in_o spiritual_a episcopi_fw-la regibus_fw-la in_o temporalibus_fw-la relâ—us_fw-la &_o reges_fw-la episcopis_fw-la in_o spiritualibus_fw-la subjecti_fw-la esse_fw-la debebunt_fw-la yet_o after_o such_o concession_n and_o notwithstanding_o such_o affirmation_n and_o allegation_n when_o the_o same_o be_v urge_v against_o himself_o to_o some_o purpose_n by_o william_n barclay_n he_o fly_v present_o to_o his_o vain_a distinction_n and_o reserve_a sense_n how_o inconsistent_a soever_o with_o any_o kind_n of_o rational_a or_o material_a sense_n first_o he_o tell_v â—od_n c._n 28._o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr cler._n that_o although_o he_o say_v in_o his_o above_o second_o proposition_n that_o clerk_n be_v not_o exempti_fw-la from_o the_o obligation_n of_o the_o civil_a law_n which_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o the_o sacred_a canon_n or_o clerical_a office_n yet_o as_o he_o mean_v only_o those_o politic_a law_n which_o 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ecâ—lesiarum_fw-la ministeriis_fw-la obsecundent_fw-la omniumque_fw-la contra_fw-la se_fw-la agentium_fw-la excipiant_fw-la actiones_fw-la let_v not_o any_o whoever_o at_o present_a be_v or_o hereafter_o shall_v be_v priest_n of_o the_o orthodox_n faith_n or_o clerk_n of_o whatever_o degree_n or_o even_a monk_n be_v at_o the_o pleasure_n or_o by_o a_o monitory_a sentence_n of_o any_o great_a or_o lesser_a judge_n draw_v to_o foreign_a judicatories_n or_o force_v out_o of_o the_o province_n place_n or_o region_n where_o they_o dwell_v let_v none_o of_o they_o be_v command_v by_o miserable_a necessity_n to_o relinquish_v the_o church_n or_o monastery_n which_o for_o religion_n sake_n they_o inhabit_v but_o in_o such_o place_n as_o they_o inhabit_v in_o the_o ministry_n of_o church_n let_v they_o before_o their_o own_o ordinary_a judge_n that_o be_v the_o rectour_n of_o province_n receive_v the_o action_n of_o all_o such_o as_o act_v against_o they_o see_v clerk_n of_o all_o degree_n whatsoever_o not_o subject_v to_o emperor_n only_o but_o to_o the_o rector_n of_o province_n who_o also_o be_v in_o this_o law_n say_v to_o be_v their_o ordinary_a judge_n now_o whereas_o the_o privilege_n of_o clerk_n be_v not_o read_v to_o have_v be_v any_o way_n lessen_v or_o recall_v by_o any_o law_n of_o former_a pious_a emperor_n from_o the_o time_n of_o theodosius_n and_o valentinian_n until_o that_o of_o this_o very_a leo_n and_o anthemius_n but_o rather_o by_o little_a and_o little_a daily_o enlarge_v by_o new_a indulgence_n or_o exemption_n give_v to_o the_o church_n and_o notwithstanding_o such_o daily_a enlargement_n the_o rector_n of_o the_o province_n be_v yet_o under_o the_o same_o leo_n and_o anthemius_n the_o ordinary_a judge_n of_o clerk_n it_o be_v sufficient_o evict_v that_o those_o word_n before_o in_o the_o foresay_a law_n of_o theodosius_n and_o valentinian_n fas_fw-la enim_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la divini_fw-la muneris_fw-la ministri_fw-la temporalium_fw-la potestatum_fw-la subdantur_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la be_v speak_v or_o write_v in_o that_o same_o sense_n we_o have_v say_v already_o whereas_o i_o say_v the_o emperor_n than_o hold_v it_o fas_fw-la or_o lawful_a for_o themselves_o to_o increase_v the_o privilege_n of_o clerk_n and_o also_o at_o their_o own_o pleasure_n or_o when_o they_o hold_v it_o fit_a to_o leave_v they_o to_o the_o common_a law_n and_o who_o see_v not_o further_o yet_o that_o bellarmine_n conclude_v out_o of_o justinian_o 83._o novel_a quite_o contrary_a to_o the_o express_a letter_n of_o that_o very_a novel_a justinian_n there_o express_o order_n that_o as_o to_o such_o clerk_n as_o shall_v be_v convene_v in_o criminal_a cause_n at_o constantinople_n where_o himself_o live_v and_o the_o imperial_a court_n be_v then_o the_o judge_n there_o shall_v determine_v the_o matter_n but_o as_o to_o other_o clerk_n that_o live_v in_o the_o province_n abroad_o the_o precedent_n or_o judge_n of_o those_o province_n si_fw-mi de_fw-fr criminibus_fw-la conveniantur_fw-la siquidem_fw-la civilibus_fw-la that_o be_v if_o the_o crime_n of_o clerk_n be_v civil_a or_o lay_a crime_n crimina_fw-la laica_fw-la and_o not_o pure_a crime_n of_o religion_n or_o faith_n hic_fw-la quidem_fw-la nempe_fw-la constantinopâ—li_fw-la competentes_fw-la judices_fw-la in_fw-la provinciis_fw-la autem_fw-la earum_fw-la praesides_fw-la sive_fw-la judices_fw-la how_o then_o may_v bellarmine_n conclude_v out_o of_o this_o novel_a that_o politic_a or_o lay_v and_o mere_o civil_a even_o subordinate_a judge_n such_o as_o questionless_a the_o precedent_n and_o judge_n of_o province_n be_v under_o justinian_n can_v not_o judge_v clerk_n in_o
a_o ordinance_n in_o such_o general_a or_o rather_o indefinite_a term_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o a_o criminal_a question_n from_o the_o civil-judicatory_a or_o be_v it_o be_v but_o a_o command_n or_o law_n that_o none_o shall_v presume_v to_o call_v or_o draw_v a_o ecclesiastical_a person_n in_o a_o criminal_a question_n or_o even_o civil_a to_o a_o secular_a judgement_n against_o the_o imperial_a constitution_n and_o canonical_a function_n and_o whereas_o there_o be_v never_o yet_o any_o imperial_a constitution_n or_o canonical_a sanction_n either_o make_v before_o his_o time_n or_o in_o his_o time_n or_o after_o his_o time_n that_o exempt_v clergyman_n in_o either_o of_o both_o sort_n of_o question_n civil_a or_o criminal_a from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a and_o absolute_a power_n of_o the_o emperor_n themselves_o or_o of_o other_o king_n that_o acknowledge_v neither_o emperor_n nor_o pope_n nor_o any_o other_o above_o themselves_o in_o their_o temporal_a government_n who_o see_v not_o that_o out_o of_o this_o constitution_n of_o frederick_n nothing_o can_v be_v conclude_v for_o such_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n but_o only_o from_o that_o of_o subordinat_fw-la inferior_a and_o ordinary_a civil_a or_o secular_a judicatories_n beside_o we_o know_v frederick_n law_n be_v only_o for_o those_o few_o city_n or_o province_n that_o remain_v in_o his_o time_n which_o be_v about_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n one_o thousand_o two_o hundred_o and_o twenty_o and_o therefore_o can_v not_o pretend_v nor_o do_v pretend_v to_o prescribe_v law_n to_o other_o kingdom_n or_o king_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n either_o in_o civil_a or_o criminal_a cause_n or_o even_o to_o the_o inferior_a judicatories_n of_o other_o king_n and_o that_o we_o know_v also_o that_o that_o law_n of_o frederick_n be_v not_o imitate_v by_o the_o like_a in_o other_o principality_n not_o subject_a to_o he_o not_o imitate_v i_o say_v general_o as_o to_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o all_o either_o civil_a or_o criminal_a cause_n whatsoever_o from_o the_o very_a subordinat_a inferior_a civil_a judicatories_n nor_o even_o in_o prima_fw-la instantia_fw-la so_o that_o i_o must_v conclude_v that_o bellarmine_n be_v put_v to_o a_o very_a narrow_a strait_n for_o a_o imperial_a or_o civil_a law_n whâ—_n 〈◊〉_d pitch_v on_o this_o of_o frederick_n which_o be_v not_o know_v nor_o as_o much_o as_o 〈◊〉_d of_o in_o other_o part_n of_o even_a europe_n itself_o as_o own_v no_o subjection_n to_o frederick_n and_o yet_o a_o law_n not_o to_o the_o purpose_n be_v it_o of_o the_o same_o authority_n those_o imperial_a constitution_n be_v when_o the_o orient_a and_o the_o occident_n south_n and_o north_n as_o far_o as_o the_o roman_a empire_n be_v ever_o spread_v at_o any_o time_n or_o even_o in_o great_a constantins_n day_n be_v under_o one_o lord._n a_o imperial_a or_o civil_a law_n in_o those_o day_n or_o of_o such_o other_o for_o some_o age_n after_o which_o wâ—e_v receive_v in_o the_o wide_a christian_n world_n &_o consequent_o &_o general_o retain_v may_v have_v be_v to_o purpose_n if_o it_o have_v clear_o express_o on_o particular_o enact_v any_o thing_n to_o our_o present_a purpose_n but_o conceive_v in_o such_o term_n as_o this_o of_o frederick_n coâ—lâ—_n not_o be_v to_o such_o purpose_n for_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o be_v exempt_v from_o the_o subjection_n due_a to_o emperor_n or_o king_n and_o another_o to_o be_v exempt_v a_o forâ—_n secuilâ—i_fw-la from_o a_o secâ—â—â—â—_n judicatory_a the_o emperor_n have_v under_o themselves_o and_o establish_v by_o themselves_o and_o by_o their_o own_o civil_a law_n two_o sort_n of_o judicatories_n the_o one_o termâ—â—â—g_v mere_a civil_a or_o mere_a secular_a judicatory_a where_o peculars_n only_o or_o mere_a â—ay_n man_n be_v judge_n and_o the_o other_o term_v 〈◊〉_d ecclesiastical_a judicatory_a where_o ecclesiastical_a person_n only_o or_o person_n depâ—â—â—â—_n by_o they_o be_v judgeâ—_n whatever_o the_o cause_n or_o question_n be_v civil_a or_o criminal_a temporal_a or_o spiritual_a or_o mix_v of_o both_o and_o both_o have_v their_o power_n which_o as_o coercive_a or_o a_o 〈…〉_o with_o any_o coercible_a from_o the_o emperor_n and_o from_o their_o civil_a law_n 〈◊〉_d so_o that_o the_o emperor_n exempt_n any_o from_o the_o secular_a judicatory_a 〈…〉_o leave_v or_o put_v such_o under_o the_o subordinat_fw-la pâ—â—er_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n depute_v by_o the_o same_o emperor_n or_o by_o their_o law_n which_o they_o may_v have_v do_v in_o favour_n of_o mere_a lie_v man_n 〈◊〉_d some_o lay-man_n and_o in_o some_o or_o many_o or_o all_o case_n whatsoever_o make_v have_v it_o be_v their_o imperial_a pleasure_n as_o often_o they_o do_v by_o instance_n grant_v epise_v 〈◊〉_d and_o entiam_fw-la to_o mere_a lie_v man_n and_o in_o mere_a lie_v crime_n or_o lie_v cause_n 〈◊〉_d civil_a and_o criminal_a at_o leaâ—_n in_o civil_a will_v bellarmine_n conclude_v therefore_o that_o those_o be_v exempt_v or_o shall_v be_v in_o such_o a_o case_n and_o by_o the_o emperor_n themselves_o or_o their_o law_n exempt_v from_o their_o own_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n in_o criminal_a cause_n or_o indeed_o in_o any_o whatsoever_o or_o must_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o by_o the_o law_n of_o england_n a_o lord_n for_o example_n 〈◊〉_d be_v condemn_v or_o try_v in_o a_o criminal_a cause_n but_o by_o his_o peer_n that_o therefore_o in_o england_n a_o lord_n be_v exempt_a from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n of_o the_o king_n himself_o or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o by_o a_o power_n derive_v from_o the_o king_n thâ—â—_n peer_n 〈…〉_o condemn_v or_o free_v another_o peer_n or_o even_o that_o by_o the_o supreme_a power_n of_o the_o king_n which_o former_o establish_v such_o a_o law_n of_o privilege_n for_o peer_n the_o same_o law_n may_v not_o be_v just_o again_o or_o upon_o just_a ground_n repeal_v and_o a_o contrary_a law_n make_v in_o parliament_n if_o at_o any_o time_n it_o be_v find_v by_o manifest_a experience_n that_o the_o peer_n do_v manifest_o and_o manifold_o and_o even_o to_o the_o ruin_n of_o the_o king_n and_o kingdom_n and_o against_o the_o very_a primary_n intention_n of_o all_o privilege_n and_o law_n make_v use_n of_o or_o rather_o abuse_v such_o a_o former_a law_n or_o former_a privilege_n or_o final_o and_o consequent_o that_o whatever_o privilege_n of_o exemption_n though_o only_o from_o inferior_a lie_v judge_n be_v so_o grant_v as_o before_o to_o clerk_n by_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n of_o emperor_n king_n and_o other_o state_n be_v such_o that_o in_o case_n of_o manifest_a and_o manifold_a abuse_n even_o to_o the_o ruin_n of_o the_o public_a and_o without_o any_o hope_n of_o amendment_n it_o can_v not_o be_v revoke_v again_o or_o moderate_v by_o another_o law_n and_o equal_a power_n to_o that_o which_o give_v it_o before_o therefore_o from_o first_o to_o last_o i_o think_v it_o be_v now_o clear_a enough_o that_o by_o the_o civil_a law_n no_o clerk_n be_v exempt_a in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o supreme_a coercive_a power_n of_o such_o temporal_a prince_n or_o state_n under_o who_o they_o live_v lxix_o that_o neither_o by_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n i_o be_o now_o to_o prove_v wherein_o i_o find_v so_o little_a difficulty_n that_o notwithstanding_o the_o general_a error_n so_o wide_o spread_v or_o suppose_v among_o as_o well_o divine_n as_o canonist_n to_o the_o contrary_a but_o introduce_v at_o first_o and_o continue_v after_o out_o of_o some_o passage_n of_o council_n very_o ill_o understand_v consider_v or_o examine_v i_o dare_v say_v bold_o that_o not_o only_o none_o of_o all_o those_o council_n or_o canon_n of_o council_n allege_v for_o such_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n but_o not_o even_o any_o of_o they_o allege_v for_o their_o exemption_n from_o as_o much_o as_o the_o subordinat_a civil_a power_n of_o inferior_a judicatories_n have_v any_o such_o matter_n at_o all_o though_o my_o purpose_n here_o be_v not_o other_o then_o to_o prove_v this_o truth_n for_o what_o concern_v the_o supreme_a power_n only_o to_o which_o purpose_n i_o affirm_v that_o no_o where_n in_o any_o council_n be_v it_o find_v that_o the_o father_n attribute_v such_o authority_n to_o themselves_o as_o by_o their_o own_o sole_a power_n to_o exempt_a clerk_n from_o lay_a tribunal_n â—_o or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n to_o deprive_v secular_a judge_n or_o magistrate_n of_o power_n empire_n command_n judgement_n coercion_n or_o jurisdiction_n over_o clerk_n or_o which_o also_o import_v the_o very_a same_o to_o prohibit_v the_o secular_a judge_n not_o to_o take_v cognizance_n of_o or_o give_v sentence_n in_o the_o cause_n either_o civil_a or_o criminal_a of_o clerk_n bring_v unto_o their_o tribunal_n or_o final_o and_o it_o be_v still_o in_o effect_n the_o same_o
not_o to_o summon_v clerk_n to_o their_o tribunal_n and_o judge_v their_o cause_n whensoever_o such_o cause_n be_v mere_o temporal_a and_o not_o proper_o or_o strict_o spiritual_a or_o of_o a_o pure_o spiritual_a nature_n and_o i_o affirm_v also_o that_o before_o justinians_n empire_n which_o be_v from_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 527._o wherein_o it_o be_v begin_v to_o the_o year_n 565._o wherein_n he_o die_v no_o council_n nor_o canon_n of_o council_n do_v ever_o as_o much_o as_o declare_v or_o even_o as_o much_o as_o only_o suppose_v that_o clerk_n be_v by_o any_o other_o authority_n or_o by_o that_o i_o mean_v of_o the_o very_a emperor_n themselves_o exempt_v general_o from_o lay_v tribunal_n not_o even_o i_o mean_v still_o from_o those_o of_o inferior_a judge_n and_o o_o god_n of_o truth_n how_o can_v any_o know_v divine_a any_o conscientious_a historian_n canonist_n or_o civilian_n be_v so_o preoccupated_a as_o not_o to_o acknowledge_v or_o so_o blind_a as_o not_o to_o see_v it_o can_v be_v any_o way_n probable_a that_o the_o father_n of_o those_o primitive_a and_o pure_a age_n shall_v attribute_v any_o such_o power_n to_o themselves_o as_o by_o their_o own_o proper_a authority_n to_o exempt_v other_o or_o even_o themselves_o from_o that_o subjection_n to_o which_o as_o well_o themselves_o as_o all_o other_o clerk_n be_v antecedent_o bind_v by_o the_o positive_a law_n of_o god_n himself_o as_o not_o only_a st._n augustine_n teach_v in_o his_o exposition_n of_o the_o thirteen_o chapter_n of_o st._n paul_n to_o the_o roman_n but_o all_o other_o father_n general_o who_o treat_v of_o this_o subject_n or_o expound_v that_o chapter_n but_o to_o clear_v this_o matter_n thorough_o we_o must_v observe_v those_o ancient_a father_n with_o who_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n whereof_o now_o there_o be_v so_o great_a neglect_n do_v sincere_o and_o severe_o nourish_v use_v their_o utmost_a endeavour_n that_o ecclesiastic_n shall_v not_o only_o by_o their_o doctrine_n 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can_v exempt_v the_o subject_n of_o king_n from_o all_o subjection_n to_o king_n and_o this_o without_o any_o consent_n from_o the_o king_n themselves_o add_v as_o a_o further_a cause_n of_o his_o admiration_n how_o it_o be_v confess_v that_o before_o such_o exemption_n by_o the_o pope_n those_o very_a person_n so_o exempt_v by_o he_o or_o attempt_v to_o be_v so_o exempt_v to_o wit_n the_o whole_a ecclesiastical_a order_n of_o clerk_n and_o even_o as_o well_o priest_n bishop_n archbishop_n patriarch_n and_o the_o very_a pope_n himself_o as_o other_z the_o most_o inferior_a clerk_n be_v all_o of_o they_o primitive_o original_o and_o even_o by_o the_o very_a law_n of_o god_n subject_a to_o the_o secular_a prince_n in_o all_o politic_a or_o civil_a and_o temporal_a matter_n and_o yet_o as_o a_o further_a cause_n add_v also_o that_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n submit_v unto_o in_o baptism_n deprive_v no_o man_n of_o the_o temporal_a right_n he_o have_v before_o baptism_n and_o consequent_o 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pope_n i_o say_v too_o of_o the_o whole_a church_n who_o see_v not_o consequent_o therefore_o i_o say_v that_o neither_o pope_n nor_o council_n nor_o other_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n if_o any_o other_o be_v imaginable_a can_v or_o can_v so_o exempt_a clerk_n from_o the_o power_n of_o prince_n be_v that_o before_o such_o exemption_n all_o clerk_n be_v subject_a to_o prince_n and_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n subject_a to_o they_o but_o for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o appear_v undoubted_o that_o bellarmine_n be_v one_o that_o do_v not_o or_o at_o least_o will_v not_o see_v these_o either_o antecedent_n or_o consequent_n be_v he_o say_v in_o plain_a term_n and_o in_o his_o own_o name_n also_o de_fw-la potestate_fw-la papae_fw-la in_o temporalibus_fw-la supra_fw-la cap._n 38._o that_o whether_o the_o supreme_a temporal_a prince_n themselves_o have_v or_o have_v not_o or_o can_v or_o can_v not_o exempt_v ecclesiastical_a while_o in_o their_o dominion_n from_o their_o own_o 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de_fw-fr potest_fw-la eccles._n sect_n 7._o prop._n 2._o where_o he_o write_v thus_o clerici_fw-la sunt_fw-la exempti_fw-la a_o tributis_fw-la non_fw-la jure_fw-la divino_fw-la sed_fw-la priâ—ulegio_fw-la principuâ—_n hoc_fw-la express_v dicit_fw-la d._n thomas_n super_fw-la illum_fw-la locum_fw-la roman_n 13._o ideo_fw-la enim_fw-la &_o tributa_fw-la praestatis_fw-la et_fw-la dicit_fw-la hanc_fw-la exemptionem_fw-la habere_fw-la equitatem_fw-la quamâ—â—â—_n non_fw-la autem_fw-la necessitatem_fw-la that_o final_o however_o this_o be_v certain_o true_a yet_o soto_n infer_v out_o of_o that_o reason_n of_o st._n thomas_n not_o a_o congruency_n but_o a_o necessity_n for_o as_o we_o have_v see_v before_o thus_o he_o discourse_v whereas_o tribut_n custom_n and_o other_o public_a tax_n be_v pay_v to_o king_n for_o their_o maintenance_n and_o as_o a_o reward_n or_o satisfaction_n for_o the_o labour_n they_o undergo_v in_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o whereas_o 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nu_fw-la 6._o hac_fw-la parte_fw-la tantùm_fw-la damnandi_fw-la quòd_fw-la confirmationem_fw-la electi_fw-la in_o romanum_fw-la pontificem_fw-la sibi_fw-la vindicarent_fw-la imò_fw-la add_v ita_fw-la vindicarent_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la ipsa_fw-la electione_n &_o confirmatione_fw-la pecuniam_fw-la etiam_fw-la aliquam_fw-la vellent_fw-la acccipere_fw-la but_o let_v we_o here_o this_o learned_a annalist_n make_v a_o little_o further_a progress_n ibid._n tom_n 8._o a_o 593._o n._n 18._o quibus_fw-la imprimis_fw-la say_v he_o vides_fw-la sanctum_fw-la gregorium_fw-la definire_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la subditam_fw-la regibus_fw-la aliquo_fw-la modo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la verumetiam_fw-la firmiter_fw-la asseverare_fw-la non_fw-la habendum_fw-la esse_fw-la mauritium_n inter_fw-la imperatores_fw-la dum_fw-la adversus_fw-la dei_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la regiam_fw-la potestatem_fw-la exercet_fw-la what_o do_v you_o say_v baronius_n be_v this_o indeed_o your_o candour_n will_v 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baronius_n rursum_fw-la say_v he_o ejusdem_fw-la gregorij_fw-la sententia_fw-la reddi_fw-la
of_o they_o to_o have_v be_v deliver_v by_o he_o most_o constant_o and_o firm_o and_o from_o the_o very_a bottom_n of_o his_o soul_n let_v baronius_n teach_v or_o show_v we_o that_o gregory_n have_v any_o where_o complain_v of_o any_o unlawful_a oppression_n of_o himself_o or_o of_o other_o priest_n by_o the_o emperor_n that_o be_v of_o the_o usurpation_n of_o rule_n power_n jurisdiction_n authority_n or_o dominion_n over_o the_o clergy_n let_v baronius_n show_v this_o to_o the_o end_n it_o may_v from_o such_o complaint_n appear_v that_o gregory_n do_v not_o speak_v from_o his_o heart_n or_o his_o own_o inward_a sense_n when_o he_o say_v that_o priest_n be_v grant_v and_o commit_v by_o god_n himself_o to_o the_o emperor_n dominion_n but_o that_o by_o such_o word_n he_o mean_v only_o that_o god_n permit_v the_o priest_n to_o be_v under_o he_o &c_n &c_n i_o say_v let_v baronius_n show_v any_o such_o place_n in_o gregory_n and_o we_o shall_v most_o willing_o admit_v of_o his_o interpretation_n let_v bellarmine_n show_v that_o any_o where_o gregory_n comylain_v in_o particular_a of_o mauritius_n as_o tyrannical_o or_o violent_o oppress_v he_o or_o usurp_a either_o spiritual_a or_o temporal_a jurisdiction_n or_o authority_n over_o he_o or_o as_o hinder_v he_o in_o any_o respect_n to_o execute_v his_o episcopal_a office_n and_o we_o will_v then_o believe_v it_o appear_v out_o of_o gregory_n himself_o that_o he_o obey_v and_o profess_v himself_o to_o have_v obey_v mauritius_n constrain_o not_o free_o and_o that_o he_o obey_v he_o only_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la but_o not_o the_o jure_fw-la but_o i_o be_o sure_a that_o hethertoo_o neither_o of_o both_o have_v bring_v any_o thing_n to_o help_v these_o interpretation_n of_o they_o indeed_o gregory_n complain_v that_o the_o emperor_n justinus_n hold_v the_o roman_a church_n under_o symoniacal_a oppression_n but_o that_o any_o prince_n be_v injurious_a to_o his_o own_o person_n by_o usurp_a jurisdiction_n over_o he_o 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quod_fw-la sensi_fw-la minime_fw-la â—acui_fw-la and_o there_o too_o he_o confess_v himself_o subject_a to_o the_o command_n of_o the_o emperor_n juffâ—oni_fw-la imperatoris_fw-la subjectum_fw-la therefore_o it_o be_v plain_a enough_o that_o bellarmine_n gloss_n of_o gregory_n be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v be_v it_o be_v so_o contrary_a to_o gregory_n word_n baronius_n likewise_o bring_v indeed_o gregory_n complaint_n against_o mauritius_n though_o without_o sufficient_a ground_n as_o if_o mauritius_n have_v through_o simony_n keep_v the_o roman_a church_n under_o oppression_n but_o that_o mauritius_n have_v be_v at_o any_o time_n injurious_a to_o the_o person_n of_o gregory_n or_o those_o of_o other_o priest_n or_o that_o mauritius_n have_v ever_o hinder_v he_o or_o they_o from_o exercise_v due_o their_o episcopal_a or_o sacerdotal_a function_n he_o have_v not_o a_o word_n to_o bring_v and_o yet_o we_o on_o the_o other_o side_n can_v produce_v most_o clear_a and_o manifest_a passage_n wherein_o and_o not_o a_o complain_v but_o as_o affirm_v nor_o as_o upbraid_v but_o as_o praise_v first_o that_o after_o he_o may_v the_o better_a object_n ingratitude_n gregory_n l._n 2._o ind._n 11._o ep_n 61._o assume_v the_o person_n of_o christ_n reason_n with_o mauritius_n recount_v particular_o the_o mighty_a favour_n he_o have_v do_v and_o benefit_n bestow_v upon_o he_o ego_fw-la te_fw-la de_fw-fr notasio_n comitem_fw-la exeubitorum_fw-la de_fw-la comite_fw-la excubitorum_fw-la caesarem_fw-la de_fw-fr cesare_n imperatorem_fw-la nec_fw-la solum_fw-la hoc_fw-la sed_fw-la patrem_fw-la feci_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la meos_fw-la tuus_fw-la manuâ—_n commisi_fw-la &_o in_o a_o meo_fw-la servitio_fw-la milites_fw-la tuos_fw-la subtrahis_fw-la behold_v the_o ingratitude_n after_o so_o many_o benefit_n and_o consider_v that_o as_o he_o be_v mind_v as_o of_o a_o benefit_n confer_v upon_o he_o that_o of_o a_o notary_n he_o be_v make_v a_o count_n and_o of_o a_o count_n make_v caesar_n and_o emperor_n so_o among_o the_o same_o benefit_n he_o be_v mind_v by_o christ_n or_o by_o gregory_n in_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n that_o to_o his_o hand_n he_o have_v commit_v his_o own_o priest_n all_o which_o doubtless_o import_v not_o represent_v not_o to_o we_o a_o bare_a permission_n of_o god_n but_o the_o good_a will_n and_o pleasure_n of_o god_n even_o that_o very_o will_v in_o god_n which_o divine_n call_v voluntatem_fw-la beneplaciti_fw-la for_o they_o be_v all_o equal_o recount_v as_o benefit_n and_o favour_n of_o god_n in_o the_o same_o stile_n and_o manner_n do_v gregory_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o theodorus_n commemorate_fw-la the_o divine_a benefit_n of_o god_n to_o mauritius_n and_o among_o other_o do_v recount_v this_o of_o dominion_n over_o priest_n that_o he_o may_v the_o better_o tax_v his_o ingratitude_n valde_fw-la autem_fw-la mihi_fw-la durum_fw-la videtur_fw-la say_v he_o ibid._n ep_v 64._o ut_fw-la ab_fw-la ejus_fw-la servitio_fw-la milites_fw-la suos_fw-la abstrahat_fw-la qui_fw-la ei_fw-la &_o omne_fw-la tribuit_fw-la &_o dominari_fw-la eum_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la militibus_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la câ—ncessit_fw-la where_o i_o can_v but_o admire_v the_o confidence_n of_o our_o new_a interpreter_n that_o for_o concedere_fw-la they_o give_v we_o permittere_fw-la in_o the_o latin_a tongue_n and_o make_v we_o believe_v that_o a_o concession_n or_o grant_n of_o dominion_n over_o priest_n make_v by_o god_n himself_o and_o make_v by_o he_o intend_v it_o as_o a_o special_a savour_n and_o benefit_n must_v be_v understand_v to_o be_v a_o bare_a permission_n only_o or_o a_o effect_n only_o of_o the_o permissive_a will_n of_o god_n and_o there_o too_o where_o it_o be_v in_o the_o same_o form_n or_o style_v recount_v as_o the_o dominion_n over_o the_o soldier_n and_o the_o whole_a empire_n be_v who_o to_o wit_n god_n give_v he_o to_o wit_n mauritius_n all_o not_o permissive_o questionless_a but_o free_o and_o willing_o 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themselves_o who_o shall_v as_o much_o as_o promise_v to_o pay_v or_o consent_v to_o the_o payment_n of_o any_o such_o imposition_n or_o even_o promise_v or_o consent_n to_o pay_v or_o give_v any_o kind_n of_o money_n or_o quantity_n or_o portion_n of_o money_n to_o such_o prince_n state_n lord_n official_o &c_n &c_n under_o any_o other_o title_n as_o that_o of_o a_o charitable_a subsidy_n or_o help-money_n or_o that_o of_o loane-money_n or_o that_o also_o of_o gift-money_n without_o the_o authority_n or_o licence_n of_o the_o say_v apostolic_a see_n but_o this_o too_o excessive_a boldness_n of_o boniface_n be_v both_o acknowledge_v and_o correct_v by_o clement_n the_o v._o and_o by_o the_o general_n council_n of_o vienna_n in_o which_o council_n the_o say_a clement_n preside_v that_o canon_n of_o boniface_n with_o all_o the_o several_a branch_n or_o declaration_n of_o it_o be_v total_o expunge_v and_o abolish_v as_o appear_v by_o clementina_n quoniam_fw-la de_fw-fr immun_n ecclesiaâ—_n but_o whether_o that_o decree_n of_o boniface_n be_v principal_o make_v by_o he_o in_o hatred_n of_o philip_n king_n of_o france_n as_o who_o boniface_n can_v not_o or_o will_v suffer_v to_o bestow_v the_o ecclesiastical_a benefice_n of_o france_n at_o his_o own_o pleasure_n on_o such_o as_o he_o will_v and_o impose_v also_o or_o receive_v from_o the_o churchman_n or_o church-revenue_n of_o france_n such_o money_n as_o he_o want_v for_o the_o carry_v on_o of_o his_o war_n in_o flanders_n whether_o so_o or_o no_o i_o say_v it_o matter_n not_o for_o he_o make_v it_o and_o make_v it_o general_o even_o for_o all_o king_n emperor_n etc._n etc._n indeed_o the_o gloss_n in_o extravag_n quod_fw-la olim_fw-la de_fw-fr immunit_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la say_v it_o be_v for_o the_o former_a cause_n he_o make_v that_o constitution_n as_o also_o that_o out_o of_o it_o orta_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la multa_fw-la scandala_fw-la vnde_fw-la clemens_n papa_n in_o clement_n quoniam_fw-la de_fw-fr immunit_fw-la ecclesiar_v voluit_fw-la quod_fw-la antiqna_fw-la jura_n servarentur_fw-la &_o non_fw-fr alla_fw-fr constitutio_fw-la but_o we_o know_v out_o of_o ecclesiastical_a history_n the_o first_o original_a and_o whole_a procedure_n and_o by_o what_o degree_n boniface_n come_v at_o last_o to_o that_o extravagancy_n as_o to_o write_v also_o to_o that_o very_a philip_n that_o he_o hold_v they_o all_o for_o heretic_n who_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o papal_a supremacy_n in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o france_n and_o in_o all_o temporal_n as_o well_o as_o in_o spiritual_n which_o great_a exorbitancy_n as_o well_o of_o the_o say_a canon_n as_o of_o all_o the_o precedent_n concountant_a and_o subsequent_a proceed_n of_o boniface_n occasion_v so_o much_o trouble_v to_o the_o universal_a church_n as_o we_o know_v the_o translation_n of_o the_o papacy_n itself_o to_o france_n and_o the_o frequent_a long_a scandalous_a and_o pernicious_a schysme_n betwixt_o anti_n pope_n which_o enâ—â—ed_v thereupon_o amount_v unto_o for_o so_o it_o natural_o and_o common_o happen_v that_o while_o the_o spiritual_a prelate_n of_o the_o church_n do_v according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n with_o all_o christian_a humility_n obey_v the_o temporal_a prince_n in_o temporal_a matter_n the_o church_n itself_o and_o these_o prelate_n in_o she_o enjoy_v halcyon_n day_n peace_n and_o rest_n and_o tranquillity_n as_o that_o when_o and_o as_o often_o as_o the_o same_o prelate_n replenish_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o this_o world_n lift_v up_o their_o horn_n against_o prince_n push_v at_o their_o temporal_n there_o be_v nothing_o to_o be_v see_v but_o scandal_n and_o trouble_n and_o woe_n and_o calamity_n both_o in_o church_n and_o state_n and_o so_o i_o have_v end_v my_o comparison_n betwixt_o the_o more_o ancient_a holy_a pope_n and_o some_o of_o their_o late_a successor_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o subjection_n and_o obedience_n as_o due_a or_o not_o due_a 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