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A61213 The unreasonableness of the Romanists, requiring our communion with present Romish church, or, A discourse drawn from the perplexity and uncertainty of the principles, and from the contradictions betwixt the prayers and doctrine of the present Romish church to prove that 'tis unreasonable to require us to joyn in commmunion with it. Squire, William, d. 1677. 1670 (1670) Wing S5102; ESTC R15456 70,903 210

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whether_o the_o indulgence_n be_v valuable_a further_o then_o according_a to_o the_o worthiness_n and_o devotion_n of_o he_o who_o receive_v the_o indulgence_n and_o then_o it_o be_v no_o way_n certain_a that_o there_o be_v any_o benefit_n by_o the_o indulgence_n angelus_n de_fw-fr clavasio_n indulgentia_fw-la clavasio_n summa_fw-la angelica_n p._n indulgentia_fw-la tell_v we_o that_o quoad_fw-la augmentum_fw-la gratiae_n &_o gloriae_fw-la they_o be_v only_o so_o much_o worth_a as_o be_v the_o devotion_n of_o he_o that_o receive_v they_o and_o no_o more_o but_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o punishment_n which_o be_v to_o be_v inflict_v in_o purgatory_n tantum_fw-la dimittit_fw-la quantum_fw-la sonat_fw-la remitt_v what_o it_o express_v but_o how_o come_v the_o value_n of_o the_o indulgence_n for_o the_o gain_v a_o augmentation_n of_o glory_n to_o depend_v on_o the_o worth_n of_o the_o receiver_n and_o not_o for_o gain_v a_o freedom_n from_o pain_n again_o the_o indulgence_n require_v they_o shall_v be_v contrite_a and_o have_v devout_o confess_v their_o sin_n and_o without_o this_o they_o gain_v no_o