Iurisdiction 6. From this consideration of persons and causes arise two great questions First concerning the exemption of all causes Ecclesiasticall from the Kings Iurisdiction secondly concerning the exemption of Ecclesiasticall persons from temporall audience and iudicature For the better vnderstanding hereof we may proceede by some distinctions for when our aduersaries teach that the Pope is the head of the Church and we that the King is the supreame gouernor of the Church though in some sound of wordes these things seeme not much to differ yet in truth there is great difference betweene their meaning and ours For they calling the Pope the head to distinguish him from Christ whom the Apostle calleth the head of the Church say that the Pope is the ministeriall head which deuise was first brought in by the Schoolemen for among the auncients it was not knowne but all that speake of the head of the Church before acknowledge none but Christ. Concerning this deuise of the ministeriall head we say with the ancient Fathers that the Catholike Church is but one and hath one head Christ Iesus because to one bodie there can bee but one head from whom grace is infused to the whole body This Catholike Church is as that head is both perfectly known to God not to man this then is but one in all times and places But the visible Churches or particular are many at many times in many places and therefore must haue heads or gouernours aunswerable to themselues for many Churches many gouernours These are either Spirituall gouernours or Temporall The spirituall gouernment of the Church is committed to spirituall gouernours as first from Christ to his twelue Apostles of whom none was aboue the rest in this spirituall gouernment or kingdome of Christ as the Lord doth often expresly declare to them from them to Bishops and Pastors their successors Temporall gouernours are such as haue the custody of externall coactiue Iurisdiction both in Temporall and Ecclesiasticall causes for the power of the Church with all her spirituall Iurisdiction neuer reached to coaction This was by God first giuen to Magistrates and neuer reuoked in all times practised but when the Church and Kings were oppressed by the great power of Antichrist When wee call the King the supreame gouernour of the Church our meaning is that hee is appointed by God to be a Father and preseruer of religion a keeper of Ecclesiasticall discipline and as the Prophet Isaiah calleth him a nourcing father of the Church he is the soueraigne in all affaires of coactiue Iurisdiction Likewise this word Church is not taken in the same sense by them and vs for our aduersaries saying that the Pope is the head of the Church vnderstand thereby the. Catholike Church spread ouer the whole world but we vnderstand a particular Church yeelding the King to bee gouernour next and immediatly vnder God of his own dominions and consequently of persons and causes within his owne dominions so that there is much difference betweene their meaning and ours Then we must come to such an issue wherein without equiuocating the question betweene vs is set for wee shall otherwise run into that fault which is so rife with the Popes Clarks that Bellarmine himselfe confesseth it Notandum est saith he multos ex nostris tempus terere dum probant quod Caluinus caeteri haeretici concedunt This is most common among them to bee large in disputing that which is not in question betweene vs and it is a signe of some ingenuitie to confesse it but neither doth himselfe for all his confession auoid it neither doe they that write since and depend vpon his learning shunne it after so faire warning neither in truth can a false cause be maintained in so many bookes and large volumes as now they set out vnlesse they tooke this libertie to themselues to be large in disputing things which are not in question The question then is concerning the lawfull authoritie of Kings in their owne dominions touching this part of Iurisdiction which is called Ecclesiasticall coactiue Iurisdiction 7. For better proceeding let the distinction be remembred which is vsually receiued of Ecclesiasticall power for all power Ecclesiasticall is commonly deuided into power of order and of Iurisdiction The power of order by all writers that I could see euen of the Church of Rome is vnderstood to be immediatly from Christ giuen to all Bishops and Priests alike by their consecration wherein the Pope hath no priuiledge aboue other Thus teach Bonauentuâ—…e in 4. sent d. 17. q 1. August Triumphus lib. de potest eccles qu. 1. ar 1. Ioh. Gerson li. de potest eccles consid 1. Cardinal Cusanus lib. de cathol concord 2. cap. 13. Cardinal Contarenus tract de eccles potest pontificis Bellarm. lib. 4. de Rom. Pont. cap. 22. This then being the common confession of all that the Pope hath no more power herein then any other Bishop or Pastor we moue no contradiction in this As they confesse that in this power the Pope hath no praeeminence but that it is giuen from Christto all Bishops and pastors equally so wee confesse that in this power the prince hath no part and that Bishops and pastors haue this power onely from the diuine ordinance and not from earthly princes then our question is onely of the power of Iurisdiction 8. This power of Iurisdiction is diuersly vnderstood by the writers of the Church of Rome Augustinus Triumphus doth deliuer it thus The power of Iurisdiction is Temporall or Spirituall and this power considered in generall is threefold immediate deriued or giuen to execute some seruice the power of Iurisdiction immediate of all things Spirituall and Temporall is onely in the Pope The power of Iurisdiction deriued is in Bishops to them deriued from the Pope the power of Temporall Iurisdiction giuen to execute some seruice for the helpe of the Church is in Emperours Kings and secular princes this power is not immediat from God but is giuen first to the Pope and so to Kings for the vse of the Church and â—…elpe of Pope and Prelates I haue deliuered this in the â—…ery words of Triumphus whom in this thing others followe though of late some of the finer Iesuits who hold the same are growen more cunning in the manner of deliuering it Bellarmine loath to leaue the opinion and ashamed so grossely to propose it deuiseth a mollification of it thus Asserimus Pontiâ—…icem vt pontiâ—…icem et si non habeat vllam meré temporalem potestatem tamen habere in ordine ad spirituale bonum summam potestatem disponendi de temporalibus rebus omnium Christianorum That is We auer that the Pope albeit he hath not any power merely Temporall as Pope yet hath power supreame in respect of Spirituall good to dispose of all the Temporalties of all Christians And in the next Chapter concludeth that the Pope hath authoritie to depose hereticall kings and princes
tearme it from whence all Spirituall Iurisdiction must proceed to others some adde also Temporall of Spirituall Iurisdiction Bellarmine saith all Bishops receiue Iurisdiction from the Pope The like some of them or some others teach also of Temporall power the difference which they obserue is that Spirituall power is deriued from the Pope to all Bishops but Temporall power is giuen to execute some seruice Augustinus Triumphus of Ancona who wrote about three hundreth yeeres agoe at the commaundement of Iohn 22. Pope set foorth of late by the authoritie and priuiledge of Gregorie 13. did long before the Iesuits dispute this question of the Popes Soueraigne authoritie ouer Princes since which time the Friars haue closely followed his footsteps His assertion is Omnis potestas imperatorum regum est subdelegata respectu potestatis Papae And againe in the same place Omnis potestas saecularis est restringenda amplianda executioni mandanda ad imperium Papâ—… These and the like positions are now resolutely and stiffely maintained by the Iesuits and others of that faction 3. This agreeth well with the Canon lawes which are the fundamentall lawes of the court of Rome For thus they say Nos tam ex superioritate quam ad imperium non est dubium nos habere c. That is we aswell by that soueraignetie and right which without all doubt we haue to the Empire as also by that power whereby we succâ—…ed the Emperour in the vacancie of the Empire and no lesse also by the fulnesse of that power which Christ the King of kings and Lord of lords hath in the person of Saint Peter graunted to vs though vnworthy declare all such sentences and processes made by Henry 7. void and of none effect Thus saith Clement 5. Pope against Henrie 7. Emperour To the same purpose saith Boniface 8. Pope in a Constitution of his Oportet gladâ—…um esse sub gladio c. That is one sword must be vnder another sword and the Temporall authoritie must be subiected to the Spirituall authoritie for when the Apostle saith there is no power but of God and the powers that are are ordained of God They could not be ordinated vnlesse one sword were vnder another and a little after Thus of the Church and of the power Ecclesiasticall is verified the prophecie of Ieremie behold I haue sâ—…t thee ouer nations and kingdomes to plucke vp and to root out and to destroy and to throw downe and to build and to plant And againe we declare we say we define we pronounce that it is necessarie to saluation to beleeue that euery humane creature is subiect to the Pope of Rome These be the lawes of the court of Rome which some of late haue so much adored as to call them Catholike Diuinitie and which for truth and certaintie and for authoritie ouer their consciences they hold comparable euen with the holy Scriptures 4. By all which wee collect the doctrine of the court of Rome or the Popes faction to be that the Pope hath all power Spirituall and Temporall aboue all other whatsoeuer This I call the opinion of the Court of Rome or the Popes faction because we finde the most learned of the Church of Rome to hold the contrary For concerning spirituall power the best learned of the Church of Rome yea and whole councels maintaine the Spiritual power of the Church to be aboue the Pope as hereafter we shall declare And for this Temporall power aboue Kings and Emperours claimed by the Popes in their Canon Lawe maintained by their flatterers it seemeth so straunge so new and absurd that they who maintaine it are not as yet agreed vpon the state of the question For some hold that the Pope hath this power directly ouer Princes as the Canonists to whom some of the Shoole-men may be added as Triumphus and some of late called Congregationis Oratorij as Cardinall Baronius Bozius and such Others denying this direct power hold that the Pope hath the same power but indirectly as depending vpon his Spirituall power of this opinion is Cardinall Bellarmine and others these both hold the same conclusion but differ in the manner of holding it Others there be who are in some sort content to allowe the Popes Fatherhood in spirituall matters in case lie would not prooue incorrigible but vtterly denie this power ouer princes both direct and indirect of this opinion was Guil. Occham Ma' silius Patauinus and other learned men of the Church of Rome And of late Guil. Berclaius a French Lawyer hath with great learning refuted both the former opinions of the Popes power direct and indirect against Bozius and Bellarmine and yet this man professeth himselfe to be resolued to liue and die a Papist so that on the one side stand all the reformed Churches and many of the best learned of the Church of Rome I may say all the Church of old and of late On the other side standeth the Pope with his faction that is his flatterers and this I call with some of former ages the Court of Rome this is the opinion of our aduersaries 5. Our positiue sentence against this standeth in two parts as the Pope hath incroached on two sides both vpon the right of Kings and of the Church Concerning the Kings right we hold that in externall coactiue Iurisdiction the King hath supreame authoritie in all causes and ouer all persons Ecclesiasticall aswell as Ciuill This is that which hath bene published by diuerse writings and ordinances which by publike authoritie haue beene enacted and published declaring that the King within hi Dominions hath this soueraigne authoritie and that heerein there is no forraine power aboue the King The authority of the Church hath beene in like sort vsurped by the Pope by drawing to himselfe a supposed title of the head of the vniuersall Church by deuising a straunge authority in the fulnesse of power by claiming a newe and straunge priuiledge of his not erring iudgement and making himselfe the onely iudge of controuersies of faith This power in iudging and determining of controuersies of faith and religion being partly in the Church partly in the Scriptures the Pope hath wrested from both first extolling the Church aboue the Scriptures and then setting himselfe aboue the Church Then that the limits of each power may be truely knowne we giue all spirituall power to the Church all externall coactiue iurisdiction to the King when each of these shall haue taken vp his owne right there will not be so much left to the Pope as these great flatterers the Iesuits seeke to heape vpon him Our purpose is first to dispute the right which Kings haue in coactiue power ouer all persons and in all causes euen Ecclesiasticall within his dominions by persons ecclesiasticall wee vnderstand Archbishops Bishops Deans Rectors and all other set in calling and place Ecclesiasticall by causes Ecclesiasticall wee vnderstand causes Ecclesiasticall of externall coactiue
and answereth to an obiection which I will set downe in his own words Quod si Christiani non deposuerunt olim Neronem Diocletianum Iulianum Valentem similes iâ—…suerat quia deerant vires temporales Christianis That is If Christians of old deposed not Nero Diocletian Iulian Valens and the like this was because Christians then wanted Temporall forces They will shortly without blushing tell vs that Iesus Christ also submitted himselfe to the heathen Emperours and to their deputies because he wanted power to resist them for this they may say with some sophisticall shew of reason aswell as that which they doe say Then his opinion is that the Pope as Pope hath not any Temporall power but yet the Pope and onely the Pope hath Temporall power aboue all Kings and Emperours This is one of the greatest points wherein the Pope hath incroached vpon the right of Kings 9. Besides this Temporall Iurisdiction there is another part of Iurisdiction called spirituall which the writers of the Church of Rome deuide into internall and externall internall they referre to the Sacraments onely Gerson de potest ecclesi consid 1. Bellar. de Rom. pont lib. 4. cap. 22. Bellarmine in the place last cited disputing of Iurisdiction saith there is a triple power in the Bishop of Rome first of order secondly of internall Iurisdiction thirdly of externall Iurisdiction the first is referred to the Sacraments the second to inward gouernment which is in the court of conscience the third to that externall gouernment which is practised in externall courts and confesseth that of the first and second there is no question betweene vs but onely of the third De primâ secundâ non est questio sed solum de tertiâ saith he Then of this wee are agreed that the question betweene vs and them is onely of Iurisdiction in the third sense and therein especially of Iurisdiction coactiue in externall courts binding and compelling by force of law and other externall mulcts and punishments beside excommunication as for Spirituall Iurisdiction of the Church standing in examinations of controuersies of faith iudging of heresies deposing of heretickes excommunication of notorious and stubborne offenders ordination of Priests and Deacons institution and collation of benefices and spirituall cures c. This we reserue intire to the Church which Princes cannot giue or take from the Church This power hath bene practised by the Church without coactiue Iurisdiction other then of excommunication But when the matters handled in the Ecclesiasticall consistorie are not matters of faith and religion but of a ciuill nature which yet are called Ecclesiasticall as being giuen by Princes and appointed to be within the cognisance of that consistorie and when the censures are not spirituall but carnall compulsiue coactiue here appeareth the power of the ciuill magistrate This power we yeeld to the magistrate and here is the question whether the magistrate hath right to this power or Iurisdiction which is thus described by the Romanists Externall Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall is a power coactiue giuen to gouerne Christian people in contentious courts this is the principal question which we haue here to search Our English flatterers of the Pope that write now and of late haue written vndertake to prooue that this Iurisdiction is first and principally in the Pope and from him deriued to Bishops and that Kings haue not this power at all or any part of it vnlesse by commission from the Pope our assertion is contrary that this power of Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction externall and coactiue beâ—…ongs to Kings only not to Ecclesiasticall persons but as they â—…aue commission from their Princes And because we would â—…ot be mistaken in the question we will set down the words of the best of that side for better euidence and assurance who take the question thus and not otherwise Iohn Gerson saith Potestas Ecclesiastica Iurisdictionis in foro exteriori est potestas Ecclâ—…siastica coactiua quae valet exerceri in alterum etiam iâ—…uitum Bellarmine speaking of the same power saith it is ad regendum populum Christianum iâ—… foro exteriori 10. Then this is the thing which wee are to prooue that Ecclesiasticall coactiue power by force of lawe and corporall punishments by which Christian people are to be gouerned in externall and contentious courts is a power which of right belongeth to Christian Princes Concerning the power of orders and institutions of excommunication and deposition and of internall Iurisdiction in the court of Conscience in administration of Sacraments absolution by power of the keyes this we giue not to Princes but Princes as they are preseruers of Religion and nurcing fathers of the Church are to see that Bishops and all inferiour ministers performe their faithfull duties in their seuerall places and if they be found faulty to punish them because that belongeth to external Iurisdiction coactiue Thus much may suffice for the state of the question For the manner of handling I purpose to search the right of Kinges first in the law of nature secondly in the written law giuen by Moses continued vntill the comming of our Lord Iesus Christ thirdly to declare the confirmation of the same right by Christ and his Apostles and the Church succeeding vntill that time that the Pope drew a newe estate and Iurisdiction to himselfe After which time I purpose to obserue how the Pope hath incroached first vpon the Bishops then vpon the right of kings and last vpon the right of the Church and generall Councels By all which will appeare how late how new and strange that Iurisdiction is which the flatterers of the court of Rome now yeeld to the Pope CHAP. II. Kings in the time of the Law of nature had all power Ecclesiasticall both of order and Iurisdiction IN the Law of nature we haue not many examples of Kings that gouerned a people where the Church of God was planted there is onely mention of Melchisedecke King of Salem of him it is said Gen. 14. Melchisedecke King of Salem was a priest of the high God In his person these two offices the kingdom the priesthood were ioyned both which offices followed the prerogatiue of the birthright for that this Melchisedeck was Sem is the receiued opinion of many interpretours wherein is some difference Some take Sem to be the eldest sonne of Noah but others from a probable collation of Scriptures hold him to be the second sonne but whether hee were eldest or not it is apparant and out of doubt by that blessing Gen. 9. that he had the birthright for Canaan is made his seruant which is the auncient stile and euidence of the birth-right as is expressed in the birthright of Iacob Iaphet is perswaded to dwell in the tents of Sem. Whereas therefore hee hath that honor aboue both his brethren the birthright is euidently confirmed vnto him Canaan being made his seruant and Iaâ—…het being directed to repaire to his
gouernments I meane Ecclesiasticall and Temporal be directed by coactiue power there is no difference in the point of Iurisdiction betweene Temporall and Ecclesiasticall authoritie For the King and only the King is to appoint iudges in matters Temporall and Ecclesiasticall the King hath no more authoritie in reuersing the iudgement of the one then of the other being true iust and lawfull So that the Kings Iurisdiction standeth not in a power to dissanull true and righteous iudgemens but in a power supereminent by which he is charged First to confirme lawes Ecclesiasticall and Temporall Secondly to place Iudges for both causes Thirdly to see that those iudges of both sortes iudge iustly according to right and equity Fourthly to punish them if they shall be found to giue vniust and corrupt sentences Fiftly and last of all his Iurisdiction appeareth in appellations 7. But heere a question will be moued whether a man may appeale from an Ecclesiasticall iudge to the Prince For that one may appeale from a Temporall iudge I suppose it is not doubted at least I see no reason why it should be doubted But in a cause Ecclesiasticall and from a iudge Ecclesiasticall to appeale to the Temporall Magistrate of this some Romish Doctors doubt This doubt which the Canonists haue made may be increased by that place Deu. 17. 10. Thou shalt not decline from that thing which they shall shew thee neither to the right hand nor to the left And that man that will do presumptuously not hearkning to the Priest that standeth before the Lord thy God to minister there or vnto the iudge that man shall die It might seeme to be collected hence that there is no appellation from the Priest no though hee should iudge as some Rabbins expound the words I will declare their exposition because it sauoureth much like the expositions of some Papists where the text saith thou shalt not decline to the right hand nor to the left they expound it that if the Priest shall say thy right hand is thy left or thy left is thy right this sentence thou must receiue and therein rest 8. But this is a fond assertion not only without reason but against the expresse words of the Scripture for it is said according to the law which shall teach thee and according to the iudgement which they shall tell thee thou shalt doe Where we finde two rules for these two kindes of Iudges the Priest and the iudge the sentence of the Priest must be according to the written lawe the sentence of the other according to the truth of iustice and iudgement If a man be able to shew that he is wronged he may vndoubtedly appeale to a Superiour now a man may be able to shew that he is wronged if hee can shew that the Priest declineth from the law of God which is appointed his rule or the Temporall iudge from iustice And therefore if there be a Superiour in the land he may appeale but if there be no Superiour he is without remedie as when Hely was both Priest and iudge from him at that time there could be no appellation but where the forme of a kingdome is established where one King is set vp in lawfull authoritie by whose power iudges Spirituall and Temporall are placed in his dominions heere appeareth a fountaine of Iurisdiction deriued as it were into two inferiour riuers and from these inferior powers appellation may be brought if they shall not in their sentences keepe their rules prescribed to them the lawe and iustice for the appellation being grounded vpon the lawe of Nature to moderate the peruersitie and partialitie of iudges it were an absurd thing to denie this in causes Ecclesiasticall vnlesse a man would suppose that persons Ecclesiasticall may not be corrupt in their iudgements Now if we shall once graunt appellations then assuredly wee confirme the Iurisdiction of Princes in all matters wherein appellation may bee made to them And because Iurisdiction is assuredly proued by appellation we will for the farther manifestation of the truth seeke to cleere this point the rather becâ—…use our aduersaries tell vs confidently that in matters Ecclesiasticall all appellation belongeth to the Pope The Popes say so and they beleeue them we hold that appellation in causes Ecclesiasticall is to bee directed to the King who is by God set ouer the persons appellant 9. In the Old Testament we haue fewe examples or none that I remember of any that appealed from any inferior iudge Ecclesiasticall to the Soueraigne but in the New Testament there is one example sufficient to confirme the truth S. Paul being accused for causes Ecclesiasticall appealed from the high Priest to Câ—…sar Therfore it is lawfull in matters Ecclesiasticall to appeale from iudges Ecclesiasticall to the Ciuill Magistrate The consequence resteth vpon this that Saint Paul heerein did nothing but that which he might doe iustly and lawfully which thing I suppose the greatest enemie of Saint Pauls Doctrine will not denie for he came vp to Ierusalem with this profession and purpose I am ready not to bee bound onely but euen to die for the name of the Lord Iesus Neither durst he for sauing of his life giue a scandall to the Gospell The antecedent consisteth of these two parts First that the matters for which Saint Paul was accused were matters Ecclesiasticall Secondly that therein he appealed from the high Priest both are witnessed by the expresse words of the Scripture For Festusâ—…aith â—…aith They brought no crime against him but had certaine questions against him of their owne superstition and of one Iesus which was dead whom Paul affirmed to be aliue These questions be out of doubt Ecclesiasticall euen in the iudgement of our aduersaries that he appealed from the high Priest reskuing himselfe from his iudgement it is euident by the words in the twentie three Chapter where the Apostle speaketh to the high Priest as to his iudge Thou sittest to iudge me according to the law And when he was reskued from the Priests by Lysias and sent to Felix and left by him to Festus he neuer thinketh of appealing from any of theâ—…e ciuill gouernours But when Festus asked him if he will goe to Ierusalem and there be iudged of these things then Pâ—…ul vtterly refusing the high-Priest appealed to Câ—…sar by which it followeth that in matters Ecclesiasticall a man may appeale from iudges Ecclesiasticall to the Soueraigne Prince Whereupon this vndoubtedly followeth that there resteth Soueraigne Iurisdiction in the Prince And therefore the Popes their flatterers vnderstanding well that Supreame Iurisdiction could neuer bee prooued to rest in the Popes vnlesse first Appellation should be made to them wrought by all subtilty as hereafter we shall declare by right or wrong they neither cared nor spared to cause Appellations to be made to them which thing when once they had obtained that in all causes Ecclesiasticall Appellation might be made to the Popes then and not before
gouernment which is reserued to Bishops as the Apostles successours After which example Gregorie the first writeth thus Serenissimi domini animum non ignoro quod se in causis sacerdotalibus miscere non soleat Gregorie calleth those causes with which the Emperours medled not causas sacerdotales meaning therby the same which Ambrose calleth causes of faith 12. Besides this Spirituall gouernment which is peculiar to Bishops there is also another part of gouernment giuen to Bishops which commeth from Princes which Constantine first gaue as hereafter we shall declare Of this Chrysostome saith I am vero pars illa quam Episcopum tractare in iudicijs conuenâ—…t infinita odia infinitas offensiones parit quae ipsa praetâ—…r quam quod negâ—…tijs quamplurimis plena est tam multas etiam difficultaies affert quam multas ne forenses quidem iudices sustinent and much more to the same purpose Augustine complaineth that he was too much troubled with these matters of iudic ture And Synosius professeth that he can not attend both businesses Antiquum tempus saith he tulit eosdem sacerdoâ—…es iudices eâ—…nim Aegyptij Hebraeorumque gens multum temporis â saceraotibus gubernata est and a little after Non condemno Episcopos qui versantur in negotiis c. Si qui vero sunt qui à rerum diuersarum aggressione non laeduntur illi for sitan possunt simul â—… fungi ciuâ—…tatibus praeesse In all these parts of Episcopal Iurisdiction which either by Apostolicall right or institution or by the fauour of Princes haue beene giuen to them the Pope hath intruded like a Foxe and maintaineth his intrusion like a Lion For as Christ left an equalitie and paritie among his Apostles often affirming and confirming that one of them should not be greater then another and yet the Apostles were in gouernement aboue other Ministers and that by the institution of Christ himselfe For the Lord after that he had chosen his twelue Apostles did chuse also seuentie Disciples and sent them two and two bâ—…fore him into euery citie where he himselfe should come saith S. Luke then Christ himselfe is the authour of this order in the Church which the Church hath since that time euer held the Bishops succeeding the Apostles as the inferiour Pastors succeeded the seuentie Disciples So the Apostles after them left the like equality among Bishops that one of them should not bee aboue another and yet Bishops in gouernment aboue other Ministers for Iurisdiction was neuer in the multitude but in gouernours the Bishops theÌ„ being the gouernors after the Apostles the like IurisdictioÌ„ was in all As Cypr. saith Episcopatus vnus est cuius à singulis pars in solidum tenetur And Hierom saith Vbicunque fuerit Episcopus siue Romae siue Eugubij c eiusdem meriti eiusdâ—…m est sacerdotij Which power in Bishops the Pope hath by surreption drawen to himselfe and now out of his fulnesse imparteth to Bishops at his pleasure as if hee were the fountaine of Iurisdiction 13. As thus he hath drawen their auncient right from Bishops so hath he drawen from Temporall Princes that which of auncient right was theirs we shall better vnderstand what he hath taken from Temporall Princes if we consider the true limits beâ—…weene the power of Princes and the power of the Church We say therefore that the Iurisdiction of the Church was neuer extended to coactiue power because God hath giuen all coactiue power to the Ciuill Magistrate to whom hee hath committed the sword And as coactiue power belongeth not to the Church so neither dooth it belong to the power of the Church to erect or establish to dissanull or dissolue this coactiue power as the Pope pretendeth to doe by excommunication deposing Kings and freeing their subiects from their faith and allegeance This dissolution of coactiue power cannot belong to the Church because this is both Temporall and coactiue the power of the Church being Spirituall cannot bee called either Temporall or coactiue Now that the power exercised by the Pope in excommunication is Temporall and coactiue is the graunt of Bellarmine for hee saith that the Church of old did not depose Nero Diocletian Iulian â—… c. Quia deerant vires temporales then he graunteth that in this present practise of the Popes there are vires temporales what is this but temporall coaction The Church in old time had all that power which Christ committed to his Church but then by the confession of Bellarmine the Church had no coactiue power therefore this coactiue power which the Pope vseth by Temporall force in deposing of Kings was not by Christ graunted to his Church And if we should yeeld Temporall coaction to the Church what power is left to the Magistrate Thus we see the auncient hedge is plucked vp and the bounds are chaunged which of old stood betweene these two powers Ciuill and Spirituall 14. Against this disordering of the auncient bounds wee haue the words of our Sauiour Christ. My kingdome is not of this world i f my kingdome were of this world my seruaunts would surely fight that I should not bee deliuered c. But because when these wordes are vrged against our aduersaries they looke ascant vpon them as if they touched them not Let vs consider how the kingdome of the Pope and his pretended Iurisdiction in deposing of Kings is vtterly ouerthrowen by these words which declare the power properly belonging to Christs kingdome that is to his Church Christ aunswereth heere to Pilats question Verse 33. Art thou the King of the Iewes By which question it appeareth there was some suspition and feares that Christ pretending for a kingdome might conspire against the state and worke the trouble and dissolution of the gouernment established For as Herod when he heard that Iesus was borne the King of the Iewes was troubled and all Ierusalem with him and entred into such feares and suspition that mooued him to kill all the young children from two yeeres old and vnder so the high Priests suggested the same suspitions to Pilate From this ground riseth this question of Pilate Art thou the King of the Iewes To this he aunswereth my kingdome is not of this world From which aunswere applied to such a question these positions issue It is against the nature of the kingdome of Christ to worke any trouble to the kingdomes of the world And that kingdome which worketh trouble to the kingdomes of this world is not the kingdome of Christ. Christs kingdome which is not of this world is his Church which is in this world but not of this world as himselfe saith If you were of this world the world would loue her owne but because you are not of this world but I haue taken you out of this world therefore this world hateth you Then we reason thus The gouernment of Christs Church breedeth no trouble
distinctly set in two persons Moses keeping the ciuill gouernment and Aaron the Priesthood The gouernment of Moses and his successours being more ciuil The Priesthood of Aaron his successors ceremoniall it followeth that this ancient ordinance of the law of nature was altered by such positiue lawes of God which were either ciuil or ceremoniall and consequently that this alteration taketh not away the auncient right 6. If I might therefore in a matter of this nature declare my poore opinion leauing the censure hereof to the learned that are able to iudge I take it that as it is not simply vnlawfull that a King may be a Priest and neuerthelesse keepe his kingdome so I suppose this thing cannot be done without not only a lawfull but also an ordinarie calling from God and from the Church For no man taketh this honour to himselfe but he that was called thereto as was Aaron And this cannot bee done without an ordinary calling for when Kings were Priests and the first borne sacrificers as in the law of nature then they had an ordinary calling therto for that was then the ordinance of God ordinarie in the Church which now is not But if a man were first ◅ Priest and afterward aduanced to a kingdome by some Temporal right in this case it were assuredly vnlawfull for him to shake off his holy estate and betake himselfe wholly and only to his Temporall gouerment as some Cardinals haue done Then by the law of nature the King had both the power of order and Iurisdiction and howsoeuer this is altered by a positiue ordinance of God yet all is not taken away there remaineth still that part of Iurisdiction so farre as it standeth in power coactiue in respect wherof the common law of this land saith the King is persona mixta because he hath both Ecclesiasticall and Temporall Iurisdiction 7. This example of Melchisedeck both King and Priest hath much lifted vp the Pope and his flatterers for of this they take especiall hold and thinke hereby to prooue the Pope to be King of the Church because Melchisedeck was both King and Priest But to this we aunswere Melchisedeck had both these honours by a lawfull and ordinarie calling but so hath not the Pope for his Priesthood we graunt he had once thereto a lawfull calling both by locall and doctrinall succession which doctrinall succession Irenaeus calleth successionem principalem Tertullian doctrinae cōsanguinitatē cum Apostolica Ecclesia but now haue they forsaken that principall succession and haue nothing left to glory in but bare personall and locall succession Then to the office of a Bishop the Pope may shew some colour though the colour be now worne thredbare but to the princely office which he claimeth ouer the Church he can shew neither calling nor colour so that the example of Melchisedek which the Popes parasites drawe with such violence to him doth helpe him nothing but rather helpeth the cause of Christian Kings against him for it is certaine that Kings were Priests by an ordinary calling before these two offices were distinguished but it can neuer be prooued that Priests were Kings by such an ordinary calling after that these two offices were set in distinct persons If any man suppose that we haue stretched the example of Melchisedeck too farre because he was a type of Christ I aunswere this is nothing against my purpose that Melchisedeck was a type of Christ. For many men in their ordinary standing and executing ordinary functions did also beare some type extraordinarie thus did Moses Ioshua Dauid Solomon and others I speake of Melchisedeck as I finde him in his ordinary place a King and a Priest 8. By all which we conclude that vnder the law of Nature Kings were in the beginning inuested with all power Ecclesiasticall both of orders and Iurisdiction and therefore these things are not incompatible by nature All this time which lasted about the space of two thousand and fiue hundred yeeres Kings had Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction without question And therefore this Iurisdiction of Princes which we haue vndertaken to examine is found aunswerable to the first gouernment of the world vntill the time of the law giuen by Moses CHAP. III. All externall Iurisdiction coactiue was a right belonging to Kings vnder the Law NOw let vs search what Iurisdiction in matters Ecclesiasticall was found due and acknowledged to belong to the Kings right all that time vnder the Law Then we find by an especiall commaundement of God these two offices of King and Priest were distinguished and set in two seuerall persons the one in Moses the other in Aaron And the tribe of Leui was taken to the seruice of God in stead of the first borne by an expresse commaundement and the first borne which in number exceeded the number of the Louites were redeemed by fiue shekels a man for the number of the first borne was taken 22273. the number of the Leuites 22000. so that the number of the first borne exceeded the number of the Leuites by 273. These were redeemed and after that redemption the first borne of other tribes were discharged from the attendance of the seruice of God the Leuites tooke vp their place Now the Kings office and the Priests being thus distinguished we must consider what things did properly belong to each office 2. First we find that Moses who had the place of a King in gouernement as he is also called a King doth consecrate Aaron the Priest Moses is commaunded to consecrate him and his son s Exod. 28. and performeth it Leuit. 8. therefore it is repeated Num. 3. These are the names of the sonnes of Aaron the anointed Priests whom Moses did consecrate to minister in the Priests office Heere then appeareth some Iurisdiction of Moses ouer Aaron But this I meane not to vrge for it may bee thought extraordinailry to belong to Moses as Gods Apostle or Ambassadour and lawgiuer vnto Israel for in such great chaunges as was from the law of Nature to the written law somewhat must bee admitted extraordinary and this I could be well content to vnderstand so though many doubts arise for the princes right against the Priests For first it may be obiected seeing there was a Prince and a Priest set vp distinct one from the other why should the Prince consecrate the Priest and not the Priest the Prince But here we finde that Aaron doth not consecrate Moses to be Prince but Moses doth consecrate Aaron to be Priest Another doubt may be moued why Moses should consecrate not onely Aaron but his sonnes also For though we should admit the consecration of Aaron to be done by Moses of necessitie as a thing extraordinary at the first beginning of this Priesthood yet this necessitie appeareth not so much in Aarons sonnes for they might haue beene consecrated by Aaron after that himselfe had bene once consecrated by Moses And yet we find that the
consecration of Aaron and his sonnes is done altogether by Moses These things though they make faire shew for the Princes Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall ouer Priests yet wee purpose not to stand vpon them 3. But when the Priest was once consecrated and ordained and all things fully perfected concerning his function and two seuerall and distinct functions set vp then will appeare without faile in Moses his successors the right of Princes in Aaron his successors the right of Priests After all things thus perfected we finde that all the lawes which in truth proceeded originally from God were established by the authoritie of Moses and this we finde true not onely in Iudiciall and Ciuill Lawes which were to rule that state but euen in ceremoniall and Morall Lawes which were to rule the Church There is not so much as one ceremoniall law established by the authoritie of Aaron but in all the name and authoritie of Moses is expressed only we finde concerning Aaron that if any doubt in the lawes ceremoniall did arise for the interpretation of those lawes and of such doubts the high Priest must sit as iudge For the people are charged in matters that are hard to consult with the Priest and ciuill iudge Deut. 17. 8. c. Which the learned interpreters vnderstand thus that if the cause be mixt partly Ciuill partly Ceremoniall or doubâ—…full that then both the Ciuill Magistrate and the Priest must iointly determine it but if the people haue distinct causes some Ciuill other Ceremoniall the Ciuill Magistrate must iudge the causes Ciuill and the Priest must iudge the causes Ceremoniall from the consideration of which place we may drawe certaine inferences 4. First all Lawes euen Ceremoniall that is Lawes whereunto Spirituall or Canon Lawes are answerable are established by the authoritie of the Ciuill Magistrate This taketh away all authoritie of the Popes Canon law in all Christian kingdomes where it is not established by the authoritie of Kings in their kingdomes For it is against all reaâ—…on and rules whether we looke vpon the light of nature or vpon the Scriptures or the lawfull practife of authoritie since the Scriptures were written that any Lawes should be imposed vpon a Prince against or without his consent as the Popes haue indeuoured to impose the Canon Lawes vpon Princes And this appeareth in the practise of Christian Magistrates so long as lawfull authoritie stood up without confusion in the world But heere we consider the fountaine of that practise which was from Gods Law wherein we see all Lawes confirmed and established by the authoritie of the Ciuill Magistrate And if it could bee prooued that in some Lawes Ceremoniall the authoritie of Aaron was requisite yet this helpeth them nothing that plead for the Popes Canons For these men would impose these Canons vpon Princes without their consent but in all these Lawes of Moses wherein is a perfect patterne for all law-makers they cannot shew one Law though neuer so nearely concerning the Church which is established without the authoritie of Moses the Ciuill Magistrate If they obiect these things were all done by an especiall commaundement of God I aunswere this doth more establish the authoritie of Princes and confirme our purpose for let them aunswere why God would haue all these things established by the Ciuill Magistrate and not by the Priest This then maketh a greater and clearer confirmation of the Princes right Then the Church may interpret Scripture determine controuersies of faith but cannot establish a Law the reason is because for the establishing of Lawes coactiue power is requisite which is in the Ciuil Magistrate not in the Church And therefore the Canon Lawes can haue no force of lawes but as they are receiued and established by Princes in their seuerall kingdomes For neither can the law haue the force of a law without coactiue power neither hath the Pope any coactiue power in the kingdomes of other Princes but onely in such places where himselfe is a Temporall Prince 5. Secondly we obserue that the high Priest is appointed by God a iudge for interpretation of those lawes that concerne the Church in questions of conscience in causes mixt or doubtfull This might moderate the humours of some who in loue to innouation would leaue no place of iudicature to Ecclesiasticall persons for these things are insert into Moses lawe taken from the law of Nature and not as things Ceremoniall which thing is apparant from the end vse and necessitie thereof for the things which had a necessary vse before the written law and must haue a necessary vse after the abrogation of that law must be acknowledged to be taken from a perpetuall law because there must be a perpetuall rule for a perpetuall necessity This then being perpetuall and necessary matters of question and of Ecclesiasticall audience still arising the hearing and iudging of such things belong to such as are most skilfull in those affaires And hence is the iudicature of fuch things assigned to the Priest which right of Ecclesiasticall iudgements and courts standeth no lesse now due to them in the time of grace then it was under the law because this office in iugdeing hearing and determining is not heere giuen to Priests as a thing Ceremoniall but as I haue declared deriued from the law of Nature as a perpetuall seruice for a perpetuall vse 6. Thirdly we consider that the lawes Ecclesiastical are established by the authoritie of the Ciuill Magistrate but for interpretation of them the Priest is appointed to iudge Hence riseth the ground of Iurisdiction both Temporall and Spirituall wee consider Iurisdiction here as our question importeth authority coactiue in externall iudicature in the execution of lawes The fountaine of this authoritie is in him principally by whose authoritie the law is established and without whose authoritie it is not The execution of this authoritie is in them that are appointed iudges And heerein there is no difference betweene Temporall and Ecclesiasticall authoritie I speake not nowe of Spirituall gouernment by the lawes of God executed within the court of Conscience but of Ecclesiasticall gouernment in the execution of lawes Ecclesiasticall wherin there is vse of coactiue power These two things being in themselues and in nature so distinct if this one distinction might be remembred it is ynough to aunswere all the confused collections of that Catholike Diuine who wrote of late against the fift part of Reports of the Lord Cooke For all that hee writeth there resting vpon no other ground then vpon the confounding of Spirituall and Ecclesiasticall power is answered in one word by this one poore distinction betweene these two powers Now the distinction is apparant because in Spirituall gouernment there is no coactiue power but in Ecclesiasticall iudicature there is coactiue power which maketh an euident and famous difference in Iurisdiction because this is most certaine that all that Iurisdiction wherin coactiue power is vsed is from the Ciuill Magistrate Then if these two
to command for otherwise the Kings command is but as the word of a priuat man or of a child if he haue not power to iudge and punish 14. Moreouer whereas Iehosaphat commandeth the Priests and Leuites to iudge betweene blood and blood Law and precepts statutes and iudgements In things that concerned questions of blood as when blood was shed by casualtie in which case the party offending had remedy by sanctuary and the high Priest was the immediat iudge as also in matters concerning lawes precepts â—…tutes iudgements that is ordinances ceremoniall or morall In these things stood the Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction which then was practised in the Church for to take that distinction which we must often remember in this question it is confessed that all Ecclesiasticall power is either of order or Iurisdiction In both which the King hath a part bâ—…t differently In the power of orders the Kings part and office was to see that things of that nature were orderly done and the breach thereof punished but himselfe was not to execute any thing whereunto the Priests were apointed by the power of their orders as to offer incense c. Wherefore Vzziah was smitten with leprosie for medling with that part of the Priests office Now Iurisdiction is diuided into power internall which as often wee haue said belongeth not to the King and power externall which power externall when it is coactiue is nothing but that which wee call the Kings Iurisdiction though it be in matters Ecclesiastical And this Iurisdiction is here testified to be in Iehosaphat and from him deriued to all to all iudges vnder him both Temporall and Ecclesiasticall For as he commaunded the Temporall iudges so in like sort he commaunded the Ecclesiasticall And as the Ecclesiasticall iudges might replie if they had bene such as now these are of the Romane Clergie that Ecclesiasticall iudgements were holy and the cause of God and not of the King so doth the King witnesse of Temporall iudgements for speaking to Temporall iudges he saith you execute not the iudgements of man but of the Lord. Then Temporall iudgements are the Lords cause aswell as Ecclesiasticall and herein they differ not 15. Now this Iurisdiction which is in coactiue power wee prooue to be in the King and onely in the King I speake according to the forme of the state of Israel in those dayes wherof we now speake aunswerable to which is the Soueraigne magistrate in any other state This right I say we prooue to bee onely in the King and from him deriued to other iudges both Temporall and Spirituall by these reasons first the King and onely the King commaundeth both iudges to doe their duties in their seuerall places and hath lawfull power to punish them if they doe otherwise therfore the Kings Iurisdiction coactiue is ouer both sorts alike The antecedent hath two parts the first drawen from the expresse words of the Scripture in this text the second followeth by a necessitie For the commaund of a King is ridiculous and no commaund vnlesse he haue authoritie to punish The consequence followeth by the very definition of Iurisdiction which will prooue the second part of the antecedent For this Iurisdiction for which we plead is defined by the most learned of the Church of Rome authority coactiue If it be authoritie it may command if coactiue it may punish then it followeth that where Iehosaphat had first authoritie to commaund and last to punish that questionlesse hee had this Soueraigne Iurisdiction 16. If against this any obiect that the King may command in matters of orders of preaching the Word administring the Sacraments c. In all these things the King may lawfully command the parties to doe their duties and may punish them if they doe otherwise and yet no man will put the Kings Iurisdiction in these matters of orders Preaching Sacraments c. For aunswere let me intreat the reader with attention to consider these three things First to commaund secondly to execute thirdly to punish Iurisdiction standeth wholly in the first and last and nothing at all in the second that is in authoritie and not in action So that though the King should execute a thing which belongeth to his office yet in the execution therof his Iurisdiction should not appeare howsoeuer his wisedome knowledge and actiue vertues might appeare therein for Iurisdiction is in the authoritie of commaunding and power of punishing and supereminence that riseth from both And therefore in the preaching of the Word administration of Sacraments the King hath no part because therein Iurisdiction standeth not these things being matters of execution not of commaund but the authoritie to commaund these things by making or vrging lawes for them and to punish the transgression by corporall punishments this because it includeth coactiue power is in the Soueraigne Magistrate onely If the Magistrate should either neglect his dutie as the heathen did or commaund false doctrines to be preached as the Arian Emperours did in this case the Church hath warrant to maintaine the truth but without tumults and rebellion and rather in patience to loose their liues then to forgo any part of the truth 17. Another reason to prooue this Soueraigne authoritie coactiue to be only in the King and from him respectiuely deriued to both sorts of iudges may thus bee drawen For the iudges Temporall there is not so much question made all the doubt is of iudges Ecclesiasticall the chiefe of which iudges Ecclesiasticall in the Church of Israel was the high Priest Then this Iurisdiction whereof we speake must be confessed to haue been principally and originally either in the king or in the high Priest but in the high Priest it was not Therefore in the King it must be That it was not in the high Priest we proue by these reasons The high Priest is commaunded corrected punished and deposed by the King and not the King by the Priest therefore the Soueraigne Iurisdiction is not in the high Priest but in the King Againe the high Priests did neuer practise coactiue authoritie vnlesse when they were Soueraigne Magistrates as sometimes the high Priests in Israel were but as high Priestâ—… they had no such power for the causes betweene blood and blood which were of their cognisance are by the interpreters vnderdood such cases wherein a man was killed by chaunce without the purpose or against the will of the offender in which case the high Priest might graunt him the prâ—…uiledge of sanctuary and so deliuer him from the auenger of blood but he had no power coactiue to inflict death or such punishments at his pleasure which trueth was so constantly receiued and preserued in the Church afterward that euen in the greatest power highest ruffe of Poperie the Church of Rome did not take this full â—…oactiue power but onely proceeded to degradation and then to deliuer men vp to the secular powers which was a â—…ecret confession that they had no right to
not be extended to these practises What can be denied heere For neither can they denie but that the censures of the Church should bee of greatest power there where they were first instituted neither can they denie that excommunication was first instituted in that Church of the Iewes neither can they shew vs that any King of that Nation was at any time deposed for pretended heresie or for knowne and professed idolatry though the Kings there were often great idolaters though the Priests were bolde and couragious in Gods cause yet we neuer finde that any Priest did by excommunication depose the King or destroy the bond of allegeance This thing then being neither practised by the Iewes where these censures were in first and chiefe force nor by Christ and his Apostles nor by the Fathers of the Primitiue Church nor known in the Church for the space of almost a thousand yeares as hereafter wee shall declare wee haue great reason to conclude that excommunication as it is an Ecclesiasticall censure hath no power coactine to alter any temporall authority to depose Kings to destroy and dissolue allegeance or to trouble any lawfull authority established in this world 18 This will no lesse appeare if wee consider the power which the Church hath alwaies practised for coactiue power was a thing which the Chnrch yeelded alwayes to the â—…iuill Magistrate And if the Bishops of Rome did sometimes breake out beyond their bounds yet were they in those ancient times alwayes repressed by the authority of the Church For that we may take a short suruay of the Iurisdiction of the Church during the first three hundred yeres so long as the Apostles liued no man doubteth but that they ruled all and that the greatest Iurisdiction of the Church was in them if we speake of spirituall Iurisdiction And if any one Apostle liued after the rest there was more power acknowledged to be in him then in any one that liued in the Church in his time Now it is for an assured historicall truth recorded by Eusebius and before him by Irenaeus whom the full consent of the auncients follow heerein that S. Iohn liued after all the other Apostles were dead that he continued in the gouernment of the Church vntill the times of Traian Emperour In which time the Bishops of Rome after Peter are recorded to be these Linus Anacletus Clemens Eâ—…aristus Alexander If the Bishop of Rome had then been the head of the Church the chiefe Pastor the Monarch the fountaine of all Iurisdiction as his flatterers now make him it must be confessed that Alexander in his time and Euaristus before him was S. Iohns head and before him Clemens and before him Anaclet and before him Linus Did these rule and gouerne S. Iohn or S. Iohn them shall we say that they had Iurisdiction ouer S. Iohn or S. Iohn ouer them If these Bishops each in his time had Iurisdiction ouer S. Iohn then there was an authority in the Church aboue the authority of the Apostles If they were gouerned by him then the Bishop of Rome was not the head of the Church There is no sober spirit that can doubt of these things or can thinke that in those dayes any liued in the Church who was not vnder the Iurisdiction of an Apostle 19 After Saint Iohns death who was liuing in the yeare of Christ 100. and after in the Church of Rome were Sixtus Telesphorus Hyginus Pius Anicetus Soter Eleutherius Victor These gouerned the Church of Rome in succession by the space of one hundred yeares together In which times they seemed willing to put to their helping hands to aduance the Church of Rome For Sathan hauing a purpose thence to raise Antichrist began betime to worke and to abuse those good men as it was not hard for him to beguile better men then they were though we admit them to be good men and holy Martyres Then were they drawne into a loue to aduance their seate and Iurisdiction yet so as neither in them is proued pernicious neither was it thought by the church to be very dangerous seeing they yeelded and submitted themselues in the end to the graue and godly aduise of the Church 20 The things wherein the Bishops of Rome sought first to aduance their power was by imposing ceremonies vpon other Churches Thus did Anicet contend for the celebration of Easter but was quieted by Polycarp who for the peace of the Church made a iourney to Rome and pacified Anicetus And was so much honoured of Anicetus that there he practised the function of a Bishop as Eusebius reporteth taking the storie from Irenaeus Thus was peace and loue then maintained on all sides whilest the Bishops of Rome were content to be ruled by others 21 A little after Victor grewe more violent in the fame quarrell and excommunicated the Easterne Churches which did not obserue Easter after the maner of the Church of Rome But Uictor was resisted and sharply reproued by Polycrates Bishop of Ephesus and the rost of the Easterne Bishops as also by Irenaeus Bishop of Lions in Fraunce These did freely reproue Victor for that he regarded not the peace of the Church they declare that in ceremonies there was great difference of olde and yet the Bishops liued in loue and peace together that the differences in ceremonies did not breake the consent in faith that these differences were before the time of Victor and that hee was therein to followe the examples of his auncients who preserued loue and peace and the doctrines of faith sincere with some diuersity in outward ceremonies This was all that the Bishops of Rome attempted in those dayes wherein there appeareth no Iurisdiction ouer others but rather the contrary For the godly Bishops of Asia reproued them and made them see and acknowledge their owne rashnesse and caused them to desist therefore the Church did not then acknowledge the Popes Iurisdiction 22 Betweene Victor and Syluester the first succeeded 18. Bishops of Rome in the space of 100 yeares next In which time there was no great attempt made for superiority or Iurisdiction onely the Bishops of other Churches did honour the Bishop of Rome following the Apostles rule In giuing honor goe one before another Which honour if they could haue remembred as well to giue to others as they did to receiue from others there could haue risen no question of Iurisdiction but that which began in loue and courtesie was afterward drawne to Iurisdiction We denie not but some of the auncients haue yeelded to S. Peter a Priority among the rest of the Apostles because of his great zeale and loue to Christ and to his trueth and for his excellent vertâ—…es and to the Bishops of Rome wee finde likewise that the auncients yeelded great and honourable titles but this was in respect of their vertue learning and integrity For the auncients knewe no other rule of fauouring men but vertue he was in the Church most honourable and
quarrell I purpose to handle and discusse in the next Chapter in his proper place Theodoricus de Niem writing of this councell and of the end and purpose of those that held it saith that this Synod was gathered purposely to search out the auncient vses lawes and customes of the Empire and Church that each power knowing their owne limits the one might not encroach vpon the other Celebrata est saith he ab 153. viris religiosis Episcopis Abbatibus c. ab vniuersis regionibus et oramibus almae vrbis à cuncto etiâ—…m Clero huius sanctae Rom. Ecclesiae ex quirentibus vsus leges mores eiusdem Ecclesiae et imperij That is It was celebrated by one hundred and fifty three religious men Bishops Abbots c. by all the regions and degrees of the City of Rome by all the Clergy of this holy Church of Rome making search and inquisition for the vses lawes and customes both of this Church and of the Empire Then we see that Charles recouered some part of the auncient Iurisdiction of the Empire Which notwithstanding since his time the Popes by inuincible contentions wrested from the Emperours chalenging it to be a part of their owne Iurisdiction and charging the Emperours with Heresie and Schisme for practising that right which other Popes before them acknowledged to bee the auncient right of the Empire 14 And because to the Iurisdiction of Princes it belonged of olde both to call councels and to confirme them therefore Charles did not omit this part of Iurisdiction though as the euent declared it was much against the Popes pleasure He called a Synod at Frankford wherein was condemned the doctrine of worshipping of images which doctrine the Pope had late before confirmed The occasion hereof grew thus Leo Isaurus Emperour being much offended that the Saracines had that great and iust exception against Christians that they worshipped images called a Synod at Constantinople wherein the worship of images was condemned and the images burned He sent also to the Bishop of Rome as then Gregory the second commaunding him to doe the like if he would haue his fauour saith Paulus Diaconus Gregory the second tooke this in suâ—…h indignation that he rebelled against the Emperour and raised all Italy into a rebellion by which meanes the Emperour lost all that then was left in Italy Gregory the second in the middes of these stirres died and Gregory the third succeeded who prosecuting the purpose of his predecessour called a Synod at Rome in the yeare seuen hundred thirty three by Sigebert seuen hundred thirty nine by Palmerius In this Synod the doctrine of worshipping images was confirmed Leo the Emperor was excommunicated and depriued Thus began the Pope to practise a new Iurisdiction in deposing Emperours After this Constantine sirnamed or rather nick-named Copronimus in the yeare of Christ saith Sigebert seuen hundred fifty fiue called a Synod at CoÌ„stantinople wherein the worship of images was againe condemned But another Synod was held at Rome by Pope Stephen the third in the yeare of Christ seuen hundred threescore and eight wherein the worshipping of images was againe approued Which was more famously confirmed in the yeare of Christ seuen hundred foure score and eight by another Constanstine and his mother Irene who called the second Nycen Synod wherein Imagerie preuailed much by the helpe of Pope Hadrian 15. Vpon these stirres Charles the great was moued to call a Synod at Franckford Thither sent Pope Hadrian the acts of the second Nicen Synod to be approued there and to direct this Synod at Frankford if they would take any direction from the Pope But the Fathers of this Synode not regarding the Popes direction tooke a meane course betweene the Greekes who destroyed and defaced images and the Church of Rome which maintained the worship thereof For they decreed that it was not impious to set vp images but to giue any worship to them this they held to be vtterly against Christian faith and to be a thing receiued from the superstition of the Gentiles This Synod was called and confirmed by Charles the great Then belike the Pope had not gotten all Iurisdiction ouer Kings which now he claimeth For the Emperour called Synods not the Pope Neither as then had hee gotten Iurisdiction ouer all Bishops because we see many Bishops were found in Germany France Aquitany and England for all these Nations Charles nameth in his letter to Elepandus Metropolitane of Tolet as fauouring and maintaining the trueth against the worship of images which resisted the Pope in this matter so that his great and soueraigne Iurisdiction was not then established 16. About this time that most worthy most religious and learned King Alfred raigned in England Aser Meneuensis writing his life entituleth him Omnium Britanniae insulae Christianorum rectorem Which title doth not much differ from that which is now in part giuen to the King supreame Gouernour of all persons Ecclesiasticall For whereas at this day the discipline of the Court of Rome exempteth Clerkes from the Kings Courts and consequently from the Kings gouernment it appeareth that in King Alfreds time this thing was vtterly vnknowne to the world therefore this King is called and acknowledged to bee the Gouernour of all Christians within his dominions Now because Bishops and Clerks were Christians he was hereby questionlesse vnderstood the gouernour of Clerkes aswell as of others As then all forraine gouernement and Iurisdiction was excluded by that title so nowe there is no other thing sought but in like sort to exclude all forraine power and Iurisdiction whether the Popes or any other At this time whe n King Alsred liued and raigned the sense iudgement and vnderstanding of the world was no other but that Kings were supreme gouernours of all persons and caufes Ecclesiasticall and Temporall within their owne Dominions Ivnderstand gouernment here as throughout this question I haue often admonished gouernment or power coactiue for this exemption of criminous Clarkes from their Kings Courts was a thing vnknowen in the world in those dayes And therfore whereas it is commonly taken by our aduersaries who vse to begge such principles as they cannot prooue that the religion sense and iudgement of the world ranne wholly for the Iurisdiction which now is practised in the Court of Rome this wee vtterly denie For we are able to shew when the sense iudgement and religion of the Church was against them in euery part of their pretended Iurisdiction For first whereas the Pope claimeth Iurisdiction ouer Bishops this is one part of his Iurisdiction and is now the sense and iudgement of the Court of Rome but in the times of the sixt and seuenth Carthaginian Councels of the Affrican and Mileuitan Synodes at this time I say and alwayes before the religion sense and iudgement of the whole world ran contrary If any obiect that these were not generall Councels but prouinciall I
aunswere wee vrge not their Canons onely to rule the Pope but their testimonies to know the truth of those times and before For they made an exact and diligent search through all the famous Churches of Christendome for the Popes Iurisdiction ouer Bishops and hauing once so famously refuted that Iurisdiction we take and reuerence their testimonies which will for euer be held honorable in the Church Before these times the religion sense and iudgement of the world was not that any Bishop or Clarke of forraine Prouinces might appeale to Rome which now is the sense and iudgement of the Court of Rome The Pope claimeth now this Iurisdiction likewise to depose Princes to dissolue and vndoe the obedience of subiects this is now the sense and iudgement of the Court of Rome but before the time of King Pipin the sense and iudgement of the world ran alwayes contrary That the Pope is vniuersall Bishop and the Church of Rome the head of other Churches yea the Pope the head of the vniuersall Church is now the sense and iudgement of the Court of Rome but this was not the sense iudgement and religion of the Church of Rome before the time of Gregorie the first as the same Gregorie doth sufficiently witnesse That criminous Clarkes should be exempted from the Courts of their Kings is now the practise and iudgement sense and religion of the Court of Rome but before the yeere one thousand this was not the sense and iudgement of the world That the Pope is aboue a generall Councell is now the sense and religion of the present Court of Rome but it was not the sense and religion of the Church of Rome before the time of the Councell of Trent In like sort of any part of their Iurisdiction whereof here we speake we are able to point to the time when it was not the sense and iudgement of the Church of Rome 17. About the time wherein Alfred raigned who began his raigne in the yeere of Christ eight hundred seuenty two died in the yeere nine hundred The Popes hauing already intruded vpon the Iurisdiction of Bishops and Archbishops beganne to make many desperate attempts vpon the Iurisdiction of Kings also but they were repressed where the Emperours had any power to resist and though they assumed Iurisdiction ouer Emperours yet they brought not all to an effect Cranâ—…zius speaking of those times saith The Emperour placed a Bishop in Monster and maruaile not that a Bishop was appointed by the Emperour for this was the Custome of those times when Emperours had power to place and displace Popes for there was no free election of Chapters as now the Apostolicall confirmation was not then necessary for whomsoeuer the Prince did nominate that man was to be consecrated a Bishop by the next adioyning Bishops Concerning this Iurisdiction there was a long contention between the Papacie and the Empire this was the Iurisdiction which the two Henries the father and the sonne which the two Frederickes likewise the Grand-father and the Grand-child sought long to defend and maintaine but the sword of the Church preuailed and forced the Emperours to relinquish their right to the Churches By this it may appeare that before the yeere one thousand the Popes entred into no great contention with the Germane Emperours concerning this Iurisdiction But as the contentions betweene the two Henrics and the two Fredericks and others did fully open and reueale to the world the Popes purpose for Iurisdiction so when it was once reuealed and fully knowen to the world it was denied and oppugned by the men of the best learning that then liued in the Church of Rome which thing we are more fully to declare hereafter CHAP. VII How the Papall Iurisdiction was aduanced from the time of the conquest and somewhat before vntill the yeere of Christ one thousand three hundred The meanes raising that Iurisdiction is declared to be by Forgeries Friars Oathes and the parts of the Iurisdiction inuestitures exemptions lawes imposed appellation deposing of Kings and absoluing their subiects from faith and Allegeance IN the time of William the Conquerer about the seuenth yeere of his raigne Hildebrand was chosen Pope named Gregorie the seuenth This man aduaunced the Popes Iurisdiction to an higher pitch then euer it was before Now all that power which was extorted from Princes by such violent practises as Hildebrand vsed was afterward supposed to belong to the Popes Iurisdiction And these late Iesuits make no doubt to tell vs that all came from Christ and his Apostles and that it was a thing neuer heard that Temporall Princes should meddle in such matters and that the Religion deuotion sense and iudgement of all men ranne wholly for it Wee are therefore to obserue how the Popes wrested Iurisdiction from temporall Princes This thing will appeare better if we take a suruay of these times and of the meanes and parts of that Iurisdiction which wee finde chalenged by the Popes in these ages 2. At this time the Popes began first of all to striue for inuestitures Pope Gregory the seuenth began this contention with Henry the fourth Emperour which was the occasion of great warres and blood-shed through Christendome especially in Germany I will for the better vnderstanding of these proceedings with breuity and fidelity report out of the stories of this time in what state the Church of Rome then stoode In the time of Henry the third Emperour the Court of Rome was pestered with a sort of men infamous prodigious who taught Necromancy practised poisoning set vp as it were a schoole of vnlawfull Arts abominable to God and pernicious to men One chiefe of this profession was Theophilactus which was afterward Pope Benedictus the eight called Benedictus the ninth This Theophilact was Master to Hildebrand in his Art Magick who for his better furtherance in that knowledge was also instructed by Laurentius the Malfilan Archbishop and by Iohn the Archpriest of S. Iohn de porta latina This Theophilact gaue himselfe wholly to the sacrifices of deuils with his complices and schollers as he had beene iâ—…structed by Gerbertus which was Pope Syluester the second By these Masters and meanes Hildebrand aspiring to the Papacy ioyned himselfe in a strict league with one Brazutus who poisoned sixe Popes in the space of thirteene yeres their names mine Author setteth down in order thus Clemens this was Clemens the second Damasus 2 Leo 9 Victor 2 Stephaâ—…us 10. Benedictus this Pope escaped the poison but was cast out by force and cunning of Hildebrand Nicholaus 2. Thus he practised to make way for himselfe to the Papacy by poisoning all that stood in his way 3. For redressing of these enormities Henry the third Emperour was entreated by the religious sort of Cardinalls to purge the Church of this hellish rabble that thus pestered it The Emperor being drawne to seeke some reformation of these disorders because many Popes vsurped the Papacie at once he
magnoperè prouidendum est â—…e in his Deus offendatur per quos religio Christiâ—…na consistere debet Marsilius Patauin hath a testimony which if it were of doubtlesse authority might moue some doubt For hee saith that Pope Simplicius did forbid Inuestitures to bee taken at a lay hand albeit saith he by that decree it is manifest that his predecessours exhibiting all due and humble reuerence to Princes did vse to take Inuestitures from Lay-men It is manifest by this that Marsilius had seene a decree of Simplicius to this purpose Which if it were the true decree of Simplicius then were Inuestitures acknowledged the Princes right long before Charles but if that decree were forged as doubtlesse it was with many moe Let the Romane forgery be acknowledged and the Masters of that mint knowne Howsoeuer it is out of question that Inuestitures were acknowledged the auncient right of the Empire by Haâ—…rian yeelded to Charles graunted also by diuers Popes as is apparant by their expresse confessions of whome some were more auncient then Charles the great and some since 47. The reason why it should belong to temporal Princes is so great that it moued Popes Emperours and Kings to enter into the greatest and hottest contentions the one to purchase a new title the other to retaine their auncient right For vntill the time of Constantine wee finde little or no mention at all of these things because the Iurisdiction was then vnmixt this power coactiue was not then practised by the gouernours of the Church But when Constantine had enriched the Church giuen place and authority to Bishops adding vnto that power which they had a new part of Iurisdiction which they had not before as we haue declared And by this example of Constantine other Emperours and Kings adding thereto so that a temporall Lordship was added in the end to a Bishoprick which thing was first instituted by Otho the second Emperour in the opinion of Cardinall Cusanus For writing of this Otho hee saith Câ—…edidit perpetuis temporibus imperio subiectis pâ—…cem darâ—… posse si temporalia dominia â—…am Rom. Ecclesiae quam alijs adiungerentur cum certi seruiâ—…ij obseruatione tunc enim cultus diuinus augmentaretur religionem in magnam reuerentiam exaltandam credidit quando sanctissimi Episcopi magnae potentiae alijs Principibus intermiscerentur A mixt Iurisdiction thus being committed to Bishops Then was it good reason that Bishops hauiâ—…g receiued such an externall coactiue power from temporall Princes that these Princes should bee well secured of their fidelity to them for so much of their authoritie as they receiued from such Princes 48. This example of gouernment the first Christian Princes set vp in the Church drawne from the gouernement of the Church of Iewes as we haue said so that Christian Kings haue the same power ouer Bishops which the godly Kings of Israell had ouer the Priests in that state From this ground riseth Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction which being taken by the first Christian Emperours from the example of the state of Israell was continued by them and their successours without question or contradiction till the time of Hildebrand For Gregory the first speaking of this auncient right which Emperours had in his time and before declareth that this right of theirs in placing of Bishops was an order so auncient so established that the contrary thereof was neuer knowne or heard of in the Church And therefore writing to Constantia Augustâ—… he saith Salonitâ—… ciuitatis Episcopus me ac responsali meo nesciente ordinatus est Eâ—… facta res est quae sub nullis anterioribus principibus eâ—…nit Quod egâ—… audiens ad eundem praeuaricaâ—…orem qui 〈◊〉 ordinatus est protinus misi vt omnâ—…no missarum 〈◊〉 celebrarâ—… nullo 〈◊〉 praesumeret nisi 〈◊〉 à serenissimis Dominis 〈◊〉 si hâ—… fieri ipsi iuâ—…sissent That is The Bishop of Sâ—…lone was ordained without the knowledge of my selfe and my Chaplaine And that thing is done which neâ—…er hapned vnder any of the former Princes Which when I vnderstoode I sent presently to that 〈◊〉 which was inordinately ordained that he should not in any case presume to celebrate Masse vnlesse first I might vnderstand of my most serene Lords the Emperours whither they commaunded this Which testimonie â—…is also cited Desâ—… 63. to proue that the Emperors ought to chuse Bishops as Hadrian acknowledged the right to Charles and Lâ—…o to Otho Gregory saith that the Bishop who iâ—…truded vpon that Church not onely without his knowledge but also without the consent of the Emperour should not be suffered to exercise his function before that he might vnderstand whether the Bishoppe had the Emperoâ—…s consent herein he saith also that this practise of intruding without the Emperours consent was a thing neuer practised vnder any Prince before that time Facta res est quae sub nullis anterioribus principibus euenit For tâ—…at these wordes are referred to that intrusion without the Emperours knowledge it is euident because he saith not that this was neuer practised vnder any Pope but not practised vnder any Prince and that he will send to the Prince to know whether the Prince commanded this thing and therefore hee calleth him a Praeuaricator that presumed to crosse this auncient right of Princes Then he condemneth a number of his successours for Prâ—…uaricators Gregory knew well what he wrote hauing the perfect Register of things of this kinde done betweene the time of Constantine and his time therefore his testimonie maketh faire and full euidence that this was the right of Christian Magistrates long before Pope Hadrian did yeeld it to Charles The same thing is also witnessed by the twelfth Toletan Counsell which was hâ—…ld in the time of Pope Agatho in the yeare sixe hundred and eightie that is long before that time wherein Hadrian yeelded this right to Charles as the olde right of the Empire 49. But Cardinall Baroniuâ—… striken with a strange fury in this question of Inuestitures ventureth vpon a new and desperat course denieth all Antiquities and bringeth a more shamelesse handling to these things then euer was brought by any man before him He denieth the whole with all the parts of it that is reported of Hadrian yeelding this to Charles but most of all he breaketh all rules of patience and moderation against Sigebert because among many he also hath reported this Storie Sigeâ—…ert saith he like an Impostor first deuised and forged this tale that Pope Hadrian yeelded Inuestitures to Charles and this he wrote in the fauour of a sâ—…hismaticall Emperour Why Baronius should put vpon Sigeâ—…ert Imposture and subornation we see no reason vnlesse it be that he thinketh that if 〈◊〉 could be put to silence herein there could no proofe appeare in all Antiquity for Inuestitures If this beâ—… his meaning he is much decâ—…iued for before this word Inuestiture was in vse the Princes right was alwaies acknowledged Long before
meeting that matters might be composed if it might be and troubles preuented The meeting was appointed at Diuion Thither came Frederick and Uictor Thither came Henry the second King of England and William King of Scotland But Alexander was so much afraid of this meeting that hee perswaded Philip the French King who had promised to meete the Emperour here to practise a trick which better beseemed a shifting Pope then an honourable Prince The deuise was that the French King should come to the place before the Emperor was come wash his hands in the Riuer that ran by the place and by the voice of a Criar should call the Emperour three times and as if this were the keeping of his promise afterward hee should depart When the Emperour and the Kings of England and Scotland were come to the place and heard what the French King had done they were much offended that the King should so Popishly disappoint his promise therefore they willed Victor to returne to Rome and went their waies 112. I passe by Fredericks iourney to the holy land his warres there how Pope Alexander sent his Image to the Souldian how being taken prisoner when he would haue dissimulated his estate he was knowne by his picture how after his returne he raised an Army and led the same into Italy against Alexander how against the Venetians who tooke part with Alexander he sent his sonne Otho how his sonne was taken prisoner which estate of his sonne gaue Alexander the aduantage and made the Emperour content to yeelde The conclusion was The Emperour must come into Saint Marke his Church in Venice and there humbly seeke absolution at the Popes handes Fredericke did so The Pope commanded him to aske pardon prostrate on the ground the Emperour suspecting no contumely did so The humble milde and mortified Vicar of Christ hauing the Emperor thus prostrate before him set his foote vpon the Emperours necke vsing those wordes Super Aspidem Basiliscum ambulabis conculcabis Leonem Draconem The Emperours answere was Non tibi sed Petro The Pope replied Et mihi Petro. These be examples of the Popes power in excommunicating Emperours from which examples they draw the claim of a right which they pretend to haue The Popish writers hope that men will be perswaded by the examples of the Popes power that this power was giuen to S. Peter and in him to all Popes because there appeareth such Christian moderation humility and mildenesse therein Though there be nothing in Scripture for them but all against them though the auncient fathers expresly denied the Popes to haue Iurisdiction ouer other Bishpopes yet they doubt not but they shall finde some that will rest perswaded that Christ left this fulnesse of power to the Popes which conteineth Soueraigne Iurisdiction not onely ouer all Bishoppes but ouer all temporall Princes also Henry the sixt and Philip. 113. HEnry the sixt Emperour succeeded Frederic This Henry left a young sonne Frederic an Infant yet elect to be Emperour and committed his education and weldoing to the trust of Pope Innocens the third leauing the Empire to his brother Philip vntill the childe should growe to age Pope Innocent this trustie tutor purposing the destruction both of Philip and young Fredericke set vp another Emperour which procured great vexation and trouble to them and to all Germany And first he quarrelled Philip that he stood vnder an old excommunication of Celestinus but afterward making semblance of fauour and reconciliation with him hee sent the Bishoppe of Sutrium to demand pledges certaine men whose eyes his brother Henry had plucked out The Bishoppe came and receiued the blinde pledges and at the earnest request of Philip absolued him from the excommunication The Pope when he had gotten these blinde men made publicke shew of them to moue enuie against Philip that done he excommunicated the Bishoppe of Sutrium for absoluing Philip without his commaundement the Bishoppe was depriued and so stood depriued all the daies of his life Then laboured the Pope to stirre vp Bertholduâ—… Duke of Zaringia against Philip whom he would haue obtruded to the Electours But Berthold vtterly refusing to rebell sent his Nephewes to Philip for Hostages of his Faith and Alleageance and came himselfe and sware Alleageance to him at which the Pope taking great indignation brake out into these wordes Either shall the Pope pull the Crown from Philip or Philip shal pull the Miter from the Pope And sent therefore to Otho sonne to Henry Leo a Prince more noted for boldnesse pride and ambition then for wisedome and moderation 114. To this man the Pope Innocent sent a Crowne and set him vp against Philippe for the Empire excommunicating Philippe and pulling all helpes from him that possible hee could and so filled the world with warres As Philip and Otho were thus plunged in warres all Princes and people troubled there was not a Bishopricke or Ecclesiasticall dignity or Parish-Church which was not made litigious and in the common miseries of Christendome and confusion of the Church the Pope onely reioyced increasing his wealth by the ruines of the Church the calamity of all men was turned to his happinesse To expresse this true felicity of the Pope and the Court of Rome in the misery and vexation of all the world mine Authour breaketh out into these wordes O our mother Rome reioyce because the Cataracts of earthly treasures are opened that vnto thee Riuers may flow and Mountaines of siluer may be brought in great abundance to thee be thou ioyfull for the iniquity of the sonnes of men because in recompence of so much mischiefe as from thee proceedeth the price returneth to thee Let thine heart be merry for the discord and dissention that troubleth all other but helpeth thee for out of the infernall pit it breaketh to heape vp much money as a reward to thee Thou hast that which alwaies thou hast thirsted after and longed for Now maist thou sing this song that thou hast ouercome the world not by thy Religion but by the malitiousnesse of men That which draweth men to thee is not thy deuotion or a pure conscience but impudency and boldnesse to commit all wickednes and hope of impunity for their hope is to defend and maintaine any wickednesse where thou art the Iudge and when the price is prepared Thus farre Uspergensis making some what bold with that innocent Pope Innocentius In this contention which the Pope raised Otho had the helpes of the King of Bohemia the Lantgraue of Thuring the Bishoppe of Colon these inclined to him being drawne as well by the Popes cursing of Philip as also for that they saw that Otho was strong by meanes of his Vncle Richard King of England But at last Otho being wearied with the warres and perceiuing Philips affaires to prosper was content to heare of peace 115. The Pope himselfe after all his malice thus spent made a motion of reconciliation
betweene them vpon this condition that Philips daughter should be giuen in marriage to Richard the Popes brothers sonne newly created Earle of Thuscia Spoletum and Marchia Anconitana hoping that these lands and Titles which then his Nephew inioyed onely by the Popes fauour and at his will might by this meanes afterward passe by right of inheritance The Pope seemed to be so earnest for this match that Uspergensis saith it was promised Here is descried one end of the Popes excommunications and absolutions and of raising warres in Christendome that they might by troubling Christendome drawe some aduantages to themselues The Popes motion was scorned of the Princes and the daughter of Philip was giuen in marriage to Otho and Articles agreed on that Philip during his life should gouerne and after him Otho Otho the fourth 116. PHilip the last Emperour being murdered by the practise and hand of the Countie Palatin Wittlespach Germany fell within the power of the Popes vexation more then before Hoc vno Philippo p◅rempto saith Naucler Germania summis insidijs Pontificis Romani agitata vires pene suas omnes in sese experta est truculenter That is This one Prince Philip being dead Germany vexed with the great and most fraudulent deceits of the Pope did feele in a manner all his force and power against it Otho after this comming to Rome Innocentius the third who had set him vp in armes against Philip entertained him with great shew of fauor but this loue was turned shortly into greater hatred For whilst Pope Innocent was somewhat too busie in exacting an Oath of Otho and sti◅red vp or heartned some of the Citizens of Rome against the Germanes the Romanes drew to a tumult and killed one thousand and a hundred Germanes who suspected no harme Otho being much moued at this Romish entertainment first moued that in some peaceable manner mends might be made but perceiuing them to be inraged that they seemed more ready to giue him a new on-set then to offer or to accept peace hee departed out of the Citie and finding by suspitions and presumptions that Pope Innocent had giuen some occasion and heartning to the Citizens in that tumult he resolued to be reuenged vpon the Pope and entred into the lands of S. Peters Patrimony making great wast and desolation where he came Wherefore Pope Innocent excommunicated him and absolued all Prelates Lordes and all the people that were subiect to the Empire from that Oath of Alleageance which they had taken to Otho commanding all men not to call him or account him Emperour nor in any thing to yeelde obedience to him 117. Otho being thus excommunicated and cursed by the Pope proceeded on in the same course denying that the Pope had any power ouer the Emperour or to dispose of the Empire and therefore notwithstanding all that the Pope had done still he did beare himselfe as Emperour And comming into Germany he held a Diet at Norinberge where he opened to the Princes of Germanie the manifold and fraudulent practises of the Pope against him and mine Authour reporteth that there he made this speech Now is the time come O Princes for you to shew your courage and care of the Empire and for the administration thereof for to you onely to you belongeth this right of disposing of the Germane Empire therefore it must be your care to preuent these troubles This we confesse to be in your power and of your right to create an Emperour or to depose him to set him vp or pull him downe and that herein the Pope hath no Iurisdiction when any trouble ariseth in the Empire you haue the power and right to redresse it Now then like true Germanes defend your owne right shew your courage and strength in the maintenance of your Country lawes and of the imperiall dignity either now maintaine your owne right or else you shall loose all for if by your facility you permit the Pope to dispose of the Empire at his pleasure you shall soone finde most assuredly that your power in the choise of an Emperour shall be vtterly ouerthrowne and brought to nothing Thus did Otho then reiect the Popes power but the Pope was too subtill and too strong for him for he set vp Fredericke the son of Henry the sixt against him to whom the Princes of Germany were bound in an auncien◅ Oath of Alleageance The memory of which bond did so preiudice Otho that he was forsaken and Frederick was made Emperour Frederick the second 118. FRederick the second purposing to demerit the Popes fauour and to asswage the insatiable thirst of bloud and warres gaue many great and rich gifts to the Pope granted much land and many territories in Italy to the Church of Rome but nothing could asswage the spirit that ruled in the Popes For after all this kindnesse of the Emperour the Pope then Honorius the third gaue fauour and encouragement to two Earles of Thuscia Richard or as Vspergensis calleth him Mathew and Thomas notorious enemies of the Emperour and conuict of Treason against him Whom when Frederick pursued in battell they betooke themselues to the protection of the Pope as their surest refuge The Emperor followed them within the Popes territories he declared also his right to Sicily and Apulia and the auncient Priuiledges which those Kings had alwaies vsed for Inuestitures which priuiledges in his nonage who was left to Innocent the third as to a faithfull Tutor were surprised by the same Innocent taken from his mother Constantia himselfe being yong not able to make resistance As thus Frederick sought to maintaine his right Honorius draweth out this new and strange weapon against him excommunicating and depriuing him raising vp his subiects against him perswading them to shake off their faith Oath Alleageance and all respect of the Emperor The Lumbards he stirred vp in rebellion against the Emperour procuring thereby great preiudice to the Empire saith Naucler and defeating the purpose of the iourney which Frederick intended to the holy land and in the beginning of these furious attempts hee was cutte short by Death 119. Gregory the ninth who succeeded began there where Honorius left And because he sought a pretence for his fury he accused the Emperour for that he had not performed his vowe of that iourney to Ierusalem whereunto he was drawne by Honorius Though this iourney he performed afterward Thus the Pope neither conuicting him no◅ conuenting him nor once hearing him thundred out his bolt of excommunication When the Emperours Ambassadours entreated that they might be admitted to rēder reasons of his stay they could not be admitted but the Pope doubled redoubled his excommunication Frederick to mitigate this mon◅trous rage vndertooke the iourney to Ierusalem and performed the seruice with great labour and no lesse glory But now behold the true reach of the Popes excommunications and exhortations to the holy seruice As soone as euer the Emperour was gone to Asia then
time greeuously troubled and vexed for want of the Emperors presence and had twise ouerthrown Ruperi or as some call him Robert King of Sicily the son of Charles whence grewe a new vexation of Italy betweene these two Pâ—…inces and as Platina saith the blame was laid vpon Clement who had called the Emperour with an Armie into Italy hee came to Rome for the Emperiall Crowne as Clement had inuited him thereto But because the Popes must bee alwaies like themselues Clement first denied his Coronation afterward hee consented vpon condition that Henry should take an Oath of Alleageance to the Pope This the Emperour refused as being a thing strange and without example Heere is descried an other end of these excommunications the Popes purpose to bring Kings and Emperours vnder them in respect of temporall Iurisdiction therefore they required of Emperours an Oath of Alleageance Clement the fift in one of his Canons maketh a long processe to proue that Henry tooke an Oath of Alleageance and that such an Oath is due to the Pope from Emperours 140. Clement pursuing his hatred against Henry aduanced the Title of Robert to Sicily whom the Emperour had by an ordinary processe of law condemned for Treason and declared an enemy to the Empire The Popes exception against Henry was that the Kingdome of Sicily belonged not to the Empire but he alleaged saith Platina that it was the Popes right to bestow the Kingdome of Sicily on this side and beyond Pharus vpon whom he pleased or to take it from whom hee would hence began great stirres to grow betweene the Pope and Emperor The Emperour pursuing his right brought an Armie into Italy and comming to Bonauentum his purpose was there to rest himselfe a few daies and to betake himselfe to prayer and fasting and other good workes that his lawfull labours and purposes might be blessed of God intending on the feast of the assumption to take the holy Sacrament The Bishoppe of Trent his Confessour was absent at that time being sent to Pope Clement but there was one sent backe in his roome a Iacobin Friar of S. Dominicks Order suborned for to worke a feate this man at that time administring the Sacrament hauing mingled Adamantin dust which is thought to be the strongest poyson in the flower whereof the Eucharist was made gaue it so prepared to the Emperour the poyson was so strong that the Emperour presently perceiued the danger and when the Masse was ended he called the Friar and said to him O Sir depart quickly for if my seruants shall knowe what a mischiefe you haue done vpon me you should die a miserable death but God forgiue you And so the Friar escaped and the Emperour died Lodouicus Bauarus 141. AFter the death of Henry the seuenth the Princes Electors were at variance for a successour some were for Frederiâ—…ke Duke of Austria others for Lodouicâ—… Duke of Bauare Iohn the two and twentieth Pope apprehended the occasion to dash one of these Princes against the other First he reiected Fredericâ—… with great contumely for when Fredericke had sent a Bishoppe to moue the Pope to ratifie his Election and the Bishoppe eloquently declared the Nobility of Fredericke and his valiant Progenitours vsing that speech Fortes crâ—…antur fortibus bonis the Pope with Pontificall arrogancy answered that Solomon the wisest man that euer was begot a most foolish sonne Against Lodouicke likewise hee pretended a quarrel for that he tooke more vpon him then belonged to his place and sometimes seeming to fauour the one and sometimes the other at last he promised Fredericke that hee would make him Emperour if hee would bring an Army into Italy to reueng him of Maphaeus and of his sonnes called Vicounts By this means great warres were raised vp in Italy and in Germany the two Princes Lodouicke and Fredericke met also in a battell fought from Sunne rising to Sunne setting wherein Lodouicke had the victory Fredericke was taken prisoner 142. Whereupon Pope Iohn without lawfull processe excommunicated Lodouicke in his Consistory at Auinion and declared him to be schismaticall hereticall and rebellious against the Church and depriued not onely Fredericke himselfe of all his Dominions as much as in him lay but depriued also all Clerkes that should giue him councell or aide Against this excommunication the Emperour appealed the forme of which Appellation is to be well obserued for albeit some write that he appealed from the Pope mis-informed to the Pope truly foâ—…d and to a generall Councell yet this is but the relation of such as fauoured the Popes Iurisdiction thinking that no appeale could be made from the Pope simply And therefore no relation of others can satisfie vs in this point so well as the very authenticke writ of Lodouicke himselfe wherein hee declareth his appeale which writ or declaration is set downe at large in Naucler from whence I would obserue some things which the Emperour declareth concerning the Popes Iurisdiction for therein he toucheth many points of his Iurisdiction and taketh exception against such partes of Iurisdiction which the Pope claimed partly in preiudice of the temporall Magistrate partly in preiudice of the Church For the question of Iurisdiction was better studied by learned men in the time of this Emperor then euer it was since 143. Lodouick then vnderstanding by men of greate learning in humane and diuine lawes which that age brought forth that the Pope had incroached vpon the right of temporall Princes and vpon the Iurisdiction of the Church and that hee ought to be gouerned iâ—… temporall affaires by the Emperour in spirituall affaires by the Church appealed from the Pope to a generall Councel and to the Catholicke Church thus the Emperour declareth his appeale appellauimus ad futurum generale Concilium ad sanctam Catholicam Ecclesiam This was done in an Assembly held at Franckfort published as a Decree against the Processes of Iohn the two and twentieth which Decree though it be somewhat large yet because it conteineth the iust claime of the temporall Magistrate against the pretended Iurisdiction of the Pope I must draw at least the summe of it to giue some satisfaction to the Reader He declareth the Popes claime for he claimed that hee had temporall Iurisdiction ouer Princes that the imperiall power was from the Pope that he that is chosen King of the Romanes hath no Iurisdiction by his sole Election vntill he be annointed consecrated and crowned that in temporall matters the Pope hath a fulnesse of power This was first the Popes claime whereunto the Emperour answereth That this standeth against the auncient Canons of the Church against law and against reason Hee cyteth for this diuers Canons to proue that the Emperour hath not his power from the Pope but from God alone Against each of the foresaid Positions he cyteth diuers Canons out of the Decrete of Gratian. Secondly Pope Iohn the two and twentieth obiected against the Emperour that hee the
confirmed in the publike assembly of the States And so furious was this Vicar of Christ that himselfe led the Army vsing these words as hee went out of Rome that seeing Saint Peters keyes would not preuaile hee would trie what Saint Pauls sword could doe and so hee threw the keyes into Tiber. 157. And thus when the Princes of Christendome shall recompt their miseries the spoâ—…le and desolation of their kingdomes the ruine of auncient houses the vexation of their subiects the circumuention of their persons the exâ—…irpation and extermination of many noble families the bloody warre and by reason of warres all the troubles and calamities of Christendome then must the Pope come to remembrance with his excommunication as a firebrand in his hand taken out of the infernall pit and carried in the handes of these furies who onely hath brought all these troubles vpon the Princes of the earth so that since the time that hee began to exercise his excommunication against Princes there hath not beene much warres in these westerne parts of Christendome but such as the Pope himselfe hath raised dashing one Prince against another when first he had cast them into a deadly sleepe to make them insensible of the wrongs which hee hath done them but when they are awaked out of their sleepe they will remember all For the Popes as the great conspiratours against the States of Princes haue set Friars their resolute creatures to practise all secret treasons against the persons of Princes And because this cannot be done without great bloodshed they come resolued to shed blood like hungry wolues so headlong are they carried herein seeking a temporall Iurisdiction ouer Princes secretly by the conspiracâ—…e of Friars openly by their excommunications that if the world should stand long before the Pope with his Babylon be ouerthrowen wee haue reason to thinke that the Popes will in time vtterly cast off and reiect the maske of religion wherewith they couer their practises now and will in plaine tearmes quarrell the Princes of Christendome for their Temporall right and Iurisdiction And then will the Princes thinke it is time for them to awake CHAP. VIII Wherein is declared what opposition this Iurisdiction found in the Church after it was thus established by Popes It was confuted first by particular learned men then by generall Councels 1. AFter that this Iurisdiction thus deuised and maintained began to bee well knowen in Christendome men of learning and iudgement began to be mooued with the noueltie and examined the whole matter with care and industrie the occasion which first moued them to examine this question was the defence of this strange Iurisdiction first claimed by the Popes and afterward more fully disputed and maintained by â—…ugustinus Triumphus 〈◊〉 who was set on worke vpon this taske by the Pope For in the end of his booke we finde this written 〈◊〉 iâ—… suâ—…ma dâ—… 〈◊〉 Ecclesiasticâ—…â—…dita à frâ—…tre 〈◊〉 Triumpho 〈◊〉 in sacra 〈◊〉 magistro 〈◊〉 Eremit â—…rum sancti Augusti 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 22. 〈◊〉 M. Aâ—… 〈◊〉 1320. Where we find from what spirit this defence of this new Iurisdiction proceedeth conâ—…ing from the especiall direction of the Pope This 〈◊〉 proceedeth herein according to his direction concluding all Iurisdiction both Spirituall and Temporall to be from the Pope 2. Which thing though it seemed straunge newe absurd yet in truth 〈◊〉 could no lesse then publish for he laboureth not so much to prooue it as to publish it the Popes challenge hauing vndertaken the businesse Foâ—… the Popes before this had begunne to prescribe in their Canons so much that their flatterers had their rules now prescribed to them â—…ow farre they must stretch their consciences for the mainetenance of Iurisdiction For â—…ither they â—…ust maintaine all that the Popes had taken vpon them or else giue ouer the cause as desperate From this spirit and direction Triumphus entreth into this cause as an hireling speaking for his fee taking this ground that the Pope is as directly lord of the whole world in Temporalibus as hee is the head of the vniuersall Church in 〈◊〉 and that he hath directly Soueraigne authoritie in respect of such his worldly Dominion ouer all Emperours Kings and Princes to dispose of them and their kingdomes This opinion is now strongly maintained by the Iesuits and hath beene of late by Tho. Bozâ—…us Francisc. Bozius Card. Baronâ—…us Zecchus Carerius and other But because Triumphus is as I take it the first Friar that hath handled this question on the Popes behalfe and the learned men that first wrote against the Popes Iurisdiction haue beene mooued thereto by his writings as alâ—…o because the booke is rare to bee had I will set downe some of his 〈◊〉 poâ—…itions that the Reader may the better vnderstand what it is which they seeke and what is that against which these learned men that I am hereafter to produce doe oppose themselues 3. One poâ—…ition of 〈◊〉 is this 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 â—…st 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 â—… Deâ—… 〈◊〉 alijs Prâ—…latis Ecclesiâ—… iâ—… quibâ—… residet potestâ—… 〈◊〉 which he proâ—…eth by such reasons as need no other reâ—…utation sauing only the recitall thereof For it was truely said of 〈◊〉 Martyr that to know and truely to vnderstand an absurd reason is a sufficient refutation thereof His reason is 〈◊〉 potestaâ—… est data in 〈◊〉 alteri per quâ—…m habet institâ—…i regulari ordinari atque 〈◊〉 si â—…ona sit per quam habet iudâ—…cari si 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 sit sed talis est potestas sâ—…cularium Imperatorum regum c. Quia per potestatem Papâ—… habet institui regulari ordiâ—…ari si bâ—…a fit pâ—…r ipsam habet condemâ—…ari iudicari â—…i mala sit That power is giuen for seruice to another by which it must be instituted oâ—…dered and confirmed being good and iudged being euill but such is the power of secular Emperours and Princes c. For by the Pope it must be instituted ruled and ordered being good and by him it must be condemned and iudged being euill All the proofe that he bringeth for this is that Pope Zâ—…chary deposed the French King Câ—…ilperic and set â—…p 〈◊〉 in his place Aâ—… other reason is this Illa pâ—…testas est iâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 alteri â—…i 〈◊〉 â—…delitatis prâ—…stat ab ea 〈◊〉 esse â—…ne quod habet sed omnis potestas saecâ—…arium Principum Imperatorâ—… â—…iorum â—…st â—…alis Dist. 63. Can. cum tibâ—… 〈◊〉 That power is giuen and subiected for seruice to another to whom it yeeldeth an Oath of Alleageanâ—…e acknowledging all that it hath from the same but such is all the power of temporall Princes Emperours and such like Againe he saith thus Sâ—… 〈◊〉 quandoqâ—…e 〈◊〉 â—…mperatores deâ—…isse aliqua 〈◊〉 sumâ—…is 〈◊〉 sicut 〈◊〉 â—…edit Silâ—…estro hâ—…c non est 〈◊〉 â—…os dâ—…re quod sâ—…m est sed restituere quâ—…d iniusâ—… tyâ—…annice â—…blatum 〈◊〉 If sometimes we finde that
some Emperours haue giuen some â—…emporalities to Popes as 〈◊〉 gaâ—…e to Siluestâ—… wee must not thinke that they gaue that which was their owne but onely restored that which vniustly and tyrannically was taken from Popes These things are such that in the iudgement of all men that are not destitute of iudgment need no reâ—…utation He saith also in the same place Potestâ—… omnis 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 subâ—…legata respectu 〈◊〉 Papâ—… All power of Emperoâ—…s and Kings is to them delegated by the Popes power This is the Iurisdiction which is fought a temporall Iurisdiction ouer Princes this doctrine was deuised onely to maintaine the practise of the Popes excommunication And as this new and strange doctrine was found out for the defence of that new and strange practise so the manner of the defence is no lesse strange for he declareth that this Iurisdiction for which he pleadeth so much is not in the Pope as he is a Priest or Bishoppe but as he is a Prince It followeth then in his confession that this Iurisdiction is proper to Princes and not to Priests For thus he saith Papatus est nomen Iurisdictionis noâ—… ordinis That is The Papacy is a name of Iurisdiction and not of Order And againe Potest Papa habere omnem potestatem pertinentem ad Papam tamen â—…arere potestatâ—… ordinis That is The Pope may haue all Iurisdiction beloâ—…ging to the Pope and yet be no Priest This new doctrine teacheth great wonders that the Pope may haue all Iurisdiction and bee no Priest The Iesuites and our owne Popish Countrie-men crye out against vs for giuing Iurisdiction to such as are no Priests but onely temporall Princes It will be hard for them to accuse vs and defend their owne Doctors 4. Because this manner of maintaining the Popes Iurisdiction is grosse to set him aboue temporall Princes in temporall Iurisdiction therefore diuers since this time haue sought to mollifie this harsh manner of speech by a distinction which they haue found out of late betweene Power direct ouer Princes and indirect These men say that the Pope hath power to depose Princes not directly but indirectly in respect of some spirituall good But when they come to the application of this distinction it appeareth nothing but a Miste to dazzle the eyes of men wherein there is no simplicity or truth Bellarmine is one of those that admitteth this Distinction vpon which Distinction graunted by Cardinall Bellarmine Master Blackwel thinketh he hath a good ground for taking the Oath of Alleageance And when Bâ—…llarmine reproueth him for that he answereth him by his owne Distinction a reasonable answere aâ—…d yet such is the Mist of this Distinction that you can hardly tell whether of these two speaketh more cunningly For Bellarmine saith that the Pope hath power to depose Princes not directly but in respect of some spirituall good but when Master Blackwell saith that in his particular case the spirituall good of Catholickes was respected This Bellarmine will denie for he will say that no priuate man must be iudge of this spirituall good but onely the Pope Now let the Pope bee Iudge and then this Distinction is as good as nothing for whensoeuer the Pope deposeth a Prince or dischargeth his subiects from their Oath of Alleageance he will iudge it to be for some spirituall good So that in this vnderstanding and sense of Bellarmine there is no reall difference betweene direct power and indirect 5. In like sort when Master Blackwell saith the Pope hath power to depose Princes indirectly or in respect of some spirituall good and iudgeth the taking of the Oath of Alleageance to respect a spirituall good end giuing this reason because the refusal of this Oth wold bring vpon vs the ruines of Catholicke families the lamentable extirpation of the whole Catholicke estate among vs We say the case of this man and of those that depend vpon him is much better then the case of them that refuse the Oath but yet to drawe them a little further into the loue of obedience let vs note the imperfection of his defence We commend his action and speake here onely of his manner of defending it for the reason that draweth him to obedience and to take this Oath is not a conscience of that commaundement of God which commaundeth obedience to Magistrates but the danger of Catholickes and of himselfe which proueth an indirect obedience So that in pleading for a verball distinction of power direct or indirect they descry a reall distinction of obedience direct or indirect Now there is not much difference betweene these three opinions of them that holde the Popes direct power and his indirect power and that say his power is to respect the present danger of the Catholickes For whatsoeuer Triumphus bringeth vnder his direct power that Cardinall Bellarmine will reduce vnder indirect power so that though they differ in the manner how this power commeth to the Pope directly or indirectly yet they both are agreed that the Pope hath this power and this is also Master 〈◊〉 iudgement For remooue the danger of his Catholickes and then he hath nothing to say against this power of the Pope so that the question is not how he hath it but whether he hath this power or not Vnto which question all Romance Catholickes answer affirmatiuely and we negatiuely 6. Thus did those learned men conceiue the question that first began to handle it these later distinctions came in by such as would hide themselues in a miste and seeme to say something when they say nothing Now let vs declare the 〈◊〉 of those men that first came to the handling of this question of the Popes power after that it was fully made knowen to the world by the Popes decrees and the writings of 〈◊〉 Triâ—…phus The first occasion that set men on worke vpon the studâ—…e of this question was partly as I haue said the writings of 〈◊〉 but this occasion was â—…otoriously promoted by the vniust vexâ—…ions which the Popes offered to Lodoâ—…icke Duke of Bauâ—…re Emperour in prosecuting of their pretended Iurisdiction ouer Kings and Emperours This Emperour being persecuted by the Popes as before wee haue declared was desirous to know the iudgements of the best learned men that then liued in the world who with 〈◊〉 did search out and by learning did ouâ—…rthrowe this new sophiâ—…ent right The chiefe of them who then wrote â—…gainst the Popes Iurisdiction was Maâ—…sitius 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 Ocâ—… Of these and of some other that in one pâ—…rt or other haue conâ—…uted this Iurisdiction of Popes I am now to speake in order §. I. Obserâ—…ations out of the writings of Marsilius Pat. against the Popes Iurisdiction 7. MArsiliâ—…s about the yeere of Christ one thousand three hundred twentie and foure set ouâ—… that booke which he Intituleth 〈◊〉 pacis wherein hee shaketh the rotten and ruinous reasons of such as maintained this Iurisdiction because the booke is written with
great learning and iudgement I will record heere some obseâ—…uations of his for it seemeth that he had a purpose to reâ—…ute that former worke of Triumpâ—…us though the truth is hee nameth not Triumphâ—…s throughout all his booke concerning this point of Iurisdiction one especiall ground which hee layeth is this Ab â—…fficio principatâ—…s siâ—…e 〈◊〉 iurisdiction is 〈◊〉 soâ—… coactiuâ—… 〈◊〉 cuiuslibet in hoc sâ—…lo Christâ—…s seipsum Apostâ—…los exclusit 〈◊〉 vâ—…luit That is Christ hath excluded and purposed to exclude hiâ—…selfe and his Apostles from principalitie or contentious iurisdiction or regiment or any coactiue iudgment in this world Which thing he prouâ—…th at large both by Scriptures Fathers because Christ â—…aith his kingdome is not of this world by which words coactiue Iurisdiction is excluded as was the doctrine of Christ such was his example of obedience for he was alwayes subiect to the coactiue power of the Magistrate Thus by the â—…ound and cleere Scriptures with the expositions and iudgement of the ancient Fathers he resuâ—…eth that noueltiâ—… which had no other ground then the Popes decretals 8. Therefore he examineth the authority of the Popes deâ—…retals and giueth a learned and iuditious distinction declaring thereby how the Pope may bee obeyed or not obeyed commaunding against the Emperour for saith he if the Emperour commaund any thing against the law of God and the Pope commaund things agreeable to that law thou must ouâ—… of doubt obey the Pope and not the Emperour But if the Emperour commaund something according to his imperial law the Pope command somthing according to his decretals against the imperiall lawes no man subiect to the Emperour ought in such things to obey the Pope Which thing he proueth at large because the ciuill Magistrate beareth the sword because he is the Minister of God the reuenger of disobedience because euery soule is subiect to him Which things saith hee are not spoken of any spiritual Gouernour but of the Temporall Magistrate For the Goueâ—…nours to whom in coactiue Iuâ—…isdiction we must obey are such as by armed power defend their Countries and people which in no case can agree to a Bishop or Priest 9. By such reasons he proceedeth and proueth infallibly his purpose and conclusion that no spirituall Gouernour hath from Christ any Iurisdiction coactiue but this power is left wholly in the hands of the ciuill Magistrate And thus doth cut in sunder the sinewes of their disputations who plead for the Popes Iurisdiction which Iurisdiction they make to consist in power coactiue Of the Popes decretals which then were lately deuised Lawes against the auncient Iurisdiction of the Church as also against the Iurisdiction of Princes he saith Vt ipsi fabulantur in sâ—…is decretalibus quâ—… secundum veritatem nihil aliud sunt quà m ordinationes quaedam Oligarchicae quibus in nullo obedire tenentur Chrsti fideles in quuntum hâ—…smodi That is As they bable in their decretals which in truth are nothing but certaine Oligarchicall ordinations to which Christians are in no case bound to obey as they proceed from the Pope Wherein he deliuereth thus much that these Canon lawes or decretals ought to haue no force among Christians vnlesse they be confirmed by the lawes of the land and by Princes in their Dominions so many as Princes shall thinke fit for the gouernment of the Church in their proper Dominions may be established being established ought to be obeyed but not as the Popes laws vse but as the laws of those Princes for that is it which Marsilius saith the decretals are not to be obeyed in quaÌ„tuÌ„huiusmodi Now that all coactiue power is by God deliuered to the Temporall Magistrate hee prooueth solidly from these words he is the Minister of God to take vengeance by vengeance all coactiue power is vnderstood Neither doth he denie but that the Church gouernours may execute coactiue power but then they must haue it from Princes and from such Temporall powers which haue the same Which being expresly and distinctly written by him three hundred yeres agoe is no other thing then that which we now maintaine at which our aduersaries seeme to wonder as at some new doctrine neuer heard before when the same truth after the saâ—… manner beene maintained by the learned men that haue handled this question before vs. Nec in quenquam presbyterum saith he aut non pres byterum conâ—…enit coactiâ—…am in hoc saeculo Iurisdictionem habere quenquam Episcopum siâ—…e Papam â—…isi eadem siâ—…i per humanum legisâ—…atorem concessa fuerit in cuiâ—…s potestate semper est hanc ab ipsis reuocare That is No man Priest or not Priest can haue Iurisdiction coactiue in this world Bishop or Pope vnlesse it be granted to them by the humane law-maker in whose power it is at his pleasure to recall it from them 10. Concerning the right of calling Councels his determination is this If a cause of religion rise in question the Pope saith he may signifie the same to the chiefe Temporall Gouernour but the authority of gathering and calling the Councell belongeth to him that hath coactiue Iurisdiction and ought to bee gathered by his coactiue precept When it is gathered he leaueth the first and chiefe seat therein to the Bishop of Rome hee giâ—…eth him the honour to propose the matter to collect all together that is spoken to communicate the things determined to others and to excommunicate the transgressors And all this to doe not at his owne pleasure or vpon his owne head sed ex concilij sententia onely by the direction of the Councell This principality he yeeldeth to the Bishop of Rome and to that Church so long as thus it standeth and so long as it doth nothing to the contrary whereby this honour may be iustly withdrawen Secundum quâ—…m modum saith hee Romanae vrbis quamdiâ—… extiterit obicemque ad hoc non apposuerit populus ille c. poterit licitè ac debebit iâ—…m â—…ict a principalitas in Episcopo Eccleâ—…a continue reseruari That is According to which maner this principality may lawfully and ought to be reserued alwayes for that Bishop and that Church as long as it thus standeth and doth nothing to the contrary This honour if the Pope would haue held himselfe contented therewith might long time enough beene reserued vnto him But when this could not content him but he must haue all Iurisdiction ouer the Church and ouer secular Princes if he finde not that honour yeelded to him which hee expecteth he may thanke himselfe because he hath procured his owne contempt and by vsurpation of vndue honour he hath lost that which though it was not due to him yet from some custome was giuen might haue beene continued to this day if himselfe had not caused the Church to withdraw it For saith mine Author Licet circa 〈◊〉 Ecclâ—…sia 〈◊〉 Episcopi Ecclesiae fidelium neque diuina neque
〈◊〉 legâ—… aliqâ—… obligarentur 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is aut institutis Ecclesia vel 〈◊〉 Râ—…manorum plusquam â—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 â—…e 〈◊〉 rationabili 〈◊〉 qua fideles in vnitate amplius seruabantur eo quod tune fideli 〈◊〉 legislatore ipsos in ordine reducente 〈◊〉 in vâ—…itate seruante c. That is Albeit about the beginning of the Church other Bishops and Churches of beleeuers were not bound by any diuine or humane law to obey the mandates of the Church or Bishop of Rome rather then the contrary yet this profitable and reasonable custome preuailing by which beleeuers were better kept in vnitie because they wanted then a Christian Magistrate to reduce them to order and preferue them in vnitie therefore they were afterward bound as by a diuine law to this obedience in things honest and lawfull 11. But because the Popes and their flatterers did couer all their practiseâ—… with plâ—…nitudo 〈◊〉 as with a mist therfore he doth with great light of learning and truth dispell that mist This saith hâ—… is Loâ—…us 〈◊〉 â—…nde etiaÌ„ paralâ—…gismus quâ—… reges principantes â—…o singâ—…los coactiua 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 subiectos 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 trâ—…xit origineâ—… That is This is a Sophisme whence that Paralogisme drew his beginning by which they striue to draw Kings and Princes and all other vnder their subiection by coactiue Iurisdiction And therfore iâ—… he belaboreth exâ—…ctly and at full to open this fallacion of fulnesse of power the suâ—…e whereof is this By a pretended fulneâ—…e of power the Pope wiâ—…hout ground or reason onely led thereto by pride and ambition intruded vpon the right of Iesus Christ and vpon the right of the Church and vpon the right of Temporall Princes wresting all authority to himselfe this he calleth fulnes of power â—…or iâ—…by fulnes of power be vnderstood tâ—…at power wherby all men and all creatures are commanded and directed to what end the commauâ—…der will this power is giuen onely to Iesus Christ and to no other man according to that Scripture all power is giueâ—… vnto me in heauen and in â—…arth But if by fulnesse of power be vnderstood power to preach to excommunicate to binde to loose to interpret Scripture to determine controuersies this power is in the Church partly in Bishops partly in doctors partly in Councels and not more in the Pope then in another Bishop Last of all if by this fulnesse of power be vnderstood Soueraigne Iurisdiction coactiue then it is in Temporall Princes Marsiliuâ—… maketh moe parts hereof bâ—…t I draw him summarily and presume that to these three heads all that he saith may be reduced 12. And therefore whereas the Pope claimeth such â—… power intruding vpon the right of each of these he saith Ex vnâ—… 〈◊〉 in 〈◊〉 â—…ransiuit Romanâ—…s 〈◊〉 Thâ—…t is The Pope hath from one presumption passed into another The same Author declareth how the Popes proceeded in these their incroachings vpon Iurisdiction First saith he they made some constitutions to gouerne the Clergie then they proceeded by way of exhortâ—…tion intreaty to perswade the laitie to keepe fastes to abstaine from meats When they saw that laymen did willingly receiue suâ—…h obseruations theÌ„ they proceeded to ordaine the same things as laws to denounce excoÌ„municatioÌ„ against the transgrâ—…ssours thereof And all this was done saith he Suâ—… 〈◊〉 diuinâ—… culâ—…us speciâ—… That is Vnder a shewe of godlinâ—…sse and the worship of God The same Author addeâ—…h Cresâ—…ente autem 〈◊〉 ipsis appâ—… 〈◊〉 ampliâ—… domiâ—…di attendentibâ—…s deuotoâ—… fideliâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ignauiaâ—… diuinâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 qui ad â—…a 〈◊〉 sacerdoteâ—… indicebantur obligari credebanâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 aeternâ—… praesumpseruâ—…t 〈◊〉 Episcopâ—… Romaâ—…i cum suo clericoruâ—… coetu â—…ligarchica quaedam edicta 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 actus 〈◊〉 c. That is But as the appetite of ruling farther continually increased in them when they sawe that deâ—…ote Christians were kept in feare with such proceedings through slothfulnesse and ignorance of Gods worship which Christians ignorant thought themselues bound vnder the paine of eternall damnation to all that was inioyned them of the Priests then the Bishops of Rome with their Clergie presuming further made certaine Oligarchicall Edicts concerning ciuill actions Thus saith hee the Bishoppe of Rome began first to practise expemptions And that hee might draw a number of the Laiety into the loue of those practises he extended these exemptions to diuers companies of Lay persons and so defrauded the Magistrate of due honour and obedience and brought in that confusion whereof the same Authour complaineth thus Hâ—…c est pestilentiae Italici regniradix origo ex qua cuncta scandala germinauerunt prodeunt c. Qua stante nunquamciuiles ibidem cessaâ—… discordiae pâ—…testatem enim hanc ad quam paulatim latenti prâ—…aricatione subintrauit ex consuetudine aut abusione verius dudum detinuit Rom. Episcopus eandem sibi per principem reuocari formidans merito propter commissos excessus creationeâ—… atque 〈◊〉 Rom. Principis omni maligna sollicitudiâ—… vitat That is This is the roote and fountaine of the pestilence which troubleth the Empire from whence all scandals growe and proceede and which standing ciuill discords shall neuer cease in Italy for the Pope fearing that this power may be reuoked by the Emperor and that deseruedly for the excesse committed therein into which power he hath by little and little stolne by secret preuarication of custome or to say more truely of abuse hauing holden it some while he hindreth the creation and promotion of the Emperor by all malice and spite Wherupon saith he some Popes haue broken out into such impudency as in their Decretals is to be seene that they aâ—…ouch that the Emperor is bound to them in an Oath of Alleageance as if the Emperour were vnder them subiected by coactiue Iurisdiction 13. Then Marsiliuâ—… hath discouered the reason why the Popes haue so much opposed themselues against the Emperors to be because they were affraid least the Emperours should call them to a reckoning for their Exemptions for the abuse of their excommunications for intruding themselues into the office of the ciuill Magistrate and taking a newe authority vpon themselues from themselues without warrant of the Emperour This is that thing which caused them to stirre so much against Emperours and at last to procure the decay of the Empire so much as at this day they haue made it so weake that now they are out of the feare thereof Other things for breuities sake I omit this is sufficient to vnderstand what reason learned men had then to withstand the Popes Iurisdiction This booke of Marsilius was neuer answered and hereafter is not like to be But Iohn the two and twentieth against whom this booke was intended did in stead of aunswering condemne this worthy Writer which thing was much more easie for him to doe §. II. William Occham and Michael Cezena 14. BVT the truth could not be suppâ—…ssed
thus For other learned men deuoted to the seruice of the truth entred into a further search of this Iurisdiction among whom Michael Cezena and William Occham were famous The occasion whicâ—… stirred them vp to make search of this point was this Michael Cezena Generall of the Order of the Minorites refuted three Constitutions of Pope Iohn the two and twentieth Ad conditorem Canonum Cum inter Quia quorundam These hee refuted and sent his bookes abroad against these Constitutions whereupon Iohn the two and twentieth depriued him and disabled him from taking any other dignity But Michael appealed from the Pope 15. Here arose the question whether a Christian might appeale from the Pope William Occham once a worthy fellow of Merton Colledg in Oxford vndertooke this question disputeth it throughly in that booke which he intitleth Opus nonaginta dierum He concludeth that a man may and might appeale from the Pope and that a Councell is aboue the Pope And saith that many moe learned men wrote diuers bookes at that time for confirmation of the same truth wherein they alleadge strong reasons to proue their purpose and answere all doubts De ista materia saith he plures libri prolixi sunt editi in quibus praedicti 〈◊〉 motiua adducunt quam plurima obiectiones refellunt quae possunt oriri dubia declarare nituntur That is Of this matter many long bookes set forth wherein these foresaid Disputers alledge many reasons refute obiections and seeke to cleare all doubts that can rise Of the Pope he saith thus Iohâ—…es 22. coâ—…scius 〈◊〉 suorâ—… ad iudiciâ—… generalis concilij veâ—…ire recusat That is Pope Iohn the two and twentieth his owne consciâ—…nce accusing himselfe of his errours refuseth to come to the iudgement of a Geâ—…erall Councel Thus the Pope hath euer bin affraid of a General Councell since the time that first he vsurped Iurisdiction The same Author confuteth the Constitutions of Iohâ—… the two and twentieth first by Scriptures then by Canons of Councels and testimonies of holy Fathers and last of al by the determination of the Church of Rome And for this question of Iurisdiction because the Popes then began to chalenge tempâ—…rall Iurisdiction ouer Princes his assertion is â—…eatus â—…etrus non fuit vicarius Christi quantum ad officium regâ—…i temporalis nec in â—…omporalibus qusbâ—…e That is S. Peter was not Christs Vicar in respect of a temporall Kingdome nor in respect of any tempoâ—…alities whatsoeuer Which Assertion he proueth thus If it were so that S. â—…eter were Christs Vicar in temporall Dominion then should S. Peter haue Iurisdiction ouer Emperours and Kings but this the Popes themselues denie for Pope Nicholas saith thus Quuâ—… ad verâ—… veâ—…tum est nec Imperator iura sibi Pontificatâ—…s c. That is When we come to know the truth neither hath the Emperour taken vpon him the right of the Pope nor the Pope vsurped the title of the Emperour for one Mediator of God and man Iesus Christ hath distinguished the Offices of both these powers by their proper actions and distinct dignities Ex hiâ—… saith Occhaâ—… datur 〈◊〉 quod Rom. Pontifex ex successione Petri non habet Iurisdictionem temporalem super 〈◊〉 That is Hence we may vnderstand that the Pope by succeeding Petâ—…r hath no temporall Iurisdiction ouer the Emperour 16. Against this determination he moueth some obiectious or rather taketh the â—…easons of 〈◊〉 Triumphus and maketh them his obiections though he suppresse the name of 〈◊〉 The obiectious are these First The Pope deposeth Kings 15. qu. 6. cap. aliâ—… Secondly The Pope trauslated the Empire Extra de Elect. cap. venerabilem Thirdly The Emperor taketh an Oath of Alleageance These are the reasons of Augustiâ—… Triumphus whereunto he aunswereth thus To the first he saith Rationâ—… eriminis habet spiritualâ—…m Iurisdictionem non temporalem That is In respect of some fault hee hath spirituall Iurisdiction but not temporall Then all the Iurisdiction which the Pope or any other Bishoppe hath is onely spirituall in his opinion in respect of sinne which may be censured by spirituall censures But a power to depose Kings includeth temporall Iurisdiction To the second he saith The Pope translated the Empire Non in qâ—…antum successor Petri sed authoritate Romanorum qui sibi potestatem huinsmodi concesserant That is Not as the successour of Peter but by the authority of the Romanes who graunted him that power To the third he saith the Emperour that first tooke an Oath of Alleageance did it from deuotion and humility and therefore afterward refused it Marfilius answereth to this last obiection somewhat otherwise for he vtterly reiecteth the testimony of that Canon that witnesseth that the Emperour tooke an Oath of Alleageance Intaâ—…tum vero ipsorum quidam prorupit aâ—…daciam saith Marsil vt in suis edectis expresserit Romanum Principem sibi iurameâ—…o fidelitatis ástringitanquam coactiâ—…a Iâ—…risdictione subiectum vt ex suarum narrationum quas decretales appellant derisibili contemptâ—… prorsus inuolucro septimo de Sent re iâ—…dicata palam se inspicientibus offert That is One of them to wit Clement the fift hath broken out in such impudency in his Edicts that he affirmeth the Emperor is bound to him by an Oath of Alleageance as subiect to him in coactiue Iurisdiction as is openly to bee seene in 2. de Sent. re â—…udic out of that ridiculous and most contemptible collection of their Narrations which they call Decretals 17. But to returne to William Occham and Michael Cezena in whose cause Occhaâ—… was ingaged Michael was deposed by Iohn the two and twentieth in Iune in the yeare of Christ one thousand three hundred twentie and eight in his behalfe letters were directed to the Chapter of the Minorites assembled in Parpinian and Auinion in the yeare one thousand three hundred thirty and one These letters were subscribed by Henricus de Chalchem Franâ—…iscus de Esculo and Guilielmus de Occham not onely these men fauoured his cause but those two famous Vniuersities Oxford and Paris did approue the same Whereuppon Michael being arrested by the Pope did appeale from the Pope Consider the nature of his appeale for it openeth the sense and iudgement of learned men then liuing being approued by the greatest learned men then liuing and by all the learned men of that order in England and in Paris for so it is said there Quae determinatio fuit etiam ab omnibâ—…s Magistris baccalarijs in sacra pagina de Parisijs de Aâ—…glia dicti ordinis approbata Vâ—…iuersis Christi fidelibus destinata That is Which determination was also approued of all the Masters and Bachelours in Diuinity of the said order of Paris and England and directed to all Christians I will set downe the forme of his appeale as in the same place I finde it expressed and thus it is Habito prius
dependance of the Pope which opinion Antoninuâ—… reprooueth for an error But Occhaâ—… hath confirmed this which 〈◊〉 tooke to be an error 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 secunduâ—… ipsum Antoninum magiâ—… dâ—…ffuse prosecutus est Occham ordiâ—…is 〈◊〉 quasi ad 〈◊〉 deducens 〈◊〉 Papae 〈◊〉 in teâ—…orali dominâ—… quamobreâ—… multi verâ—… doctissimâ—… 〈◊〉 questiones disputabanâ—… de potestatâ—… 〈◊〉 That is Which error as Antoninus taketh it Occhaâ—… a Minorite hath most largely handled reducing the power of the Pope and of Prelates concerning Temporall dominion as it were to nothing Wherefore many men of greatest learning did then dispute of Iurisdiction Eccleâ—…iasticall 23. By all which we see the Popes Iurisdiction ouerthrown by men of the greatest learning euen then when hee thought himselfe strongest for this part of his pretended Iurisdiction which toucheth the deposing of Princes was neuer better handled then at this time in the middes of the Popes kingdome by these men And shall it be thought strange in vs now to maintaine the same truth which then these worthy men durst maintaine Or shall it not be imputed either as damnable ignorance in vs not to know or as extreame weakenesse and want of courage not to professe and maintaine as much now against the Pope as these worthy men did then More we cannot say then they haue said in this point of Iurisdiction For they haue prooued by inuincible reasons that in temâ—…oralibus in temporalties thâ—… Pope hath no Iurisdiction ouer Princes that in â—…piritâ—…libus in spiritualties the Pope is â—…ubiect to the censure of â—… genâ—…rall Councell This is the truth which euer hath beene maintained against the Pope more then this wee seeke not §. III. Robert Grosthead and Iohn Wiclife 24. AFter Williâ—… 〈◊〉 let vs come to that famous Biâ—…hop of Lincolne Robert 〈◊〉 It is to bee lamented that more of his writings were not preserued by so much as we haue extant it appearâ—…th that with great courage learning integritie he withstood the Popes pretended IurisdictioÌ„ for his leaâ—…ing 〈◊〉 calleth him the true great â—…lark The contention which â—…xercised him most was about the Popes pâ—…ouisions for the Pope would by his prouisions and this was also a part of his Iurisdiction proceeding out of the pretended fulnesse of power place straungers commonly some of his owne bastardes vnder the name of his Nephewes and of these sometimes young children Thus in the best and greatest Ecclesiasticall charges and benefices as they became void he thrust in such as had neither learning nor honestie will or skill to dischâ—…rge the duâ—…tie which that place required by preaching This being of it selfe a thing hatefull and abhominable Grosthâ—…d conceiuing of the thing â—…s it was in truth resolued in his Diocesse to admit no such vâ—…gratious practise Aâ—…d therâ—…ore when the Pope had written to him in this sort for one of his Nephews 〈◊〉 withstood the Pope and would not place him And hereupon he wrote to the Pope the letter is extant in Mat. Paris out of which I will reheâ—…rse some things that the excellent spirit of thâ—…t man may be the better obserued and his zeale against the intollerable practise of the Popes Iurisdiction For these prouisions were then defended by flatterers as proceeding from the fulnesse of power the fountaine as they called it of all Iurisdiction against which Grosthead disputeth thus 25. Apostolica mandata non sunt necesse possunt alia quam Apostolorum doctrina ipsius Domini nostri Iesu Christi Apostolorum magistri ac Domini That is The Apostolicall mandates are no other neither may they be any other then the doctrines of the Apostles and of our Lord Iesus Christ master and Lord of the Apostles By this rule which Grosthead prescribeth to the Pope we are ready to receiue any mandate from him And the things which we reiect we reiect vpon no other ground then as this worthy Bishop did because they are not consonant to the Apostolicall doctrines And whereas the Pope had written to him for a prouision to be sped in his Diocesse hee proceedeth thus Ipse Doâ—…inus noster Iesus Christus ait qui non est mecum contra me est contra ipsum autem non est nec esse potest Apostolicae sedis sanctitas diuinissima non est igitur praedictae literae tenor Apostolicae sanctitati consonuâ—… sed absonum plurimum discors Primo quia de illius literae ei consimilium superacucmulato non obstante nec ex legis naturalis obseruandae necessitate inducto patet cataclysmus inconstanciae audaciae inâ—…erecundiae mentiendi fallendi c. Praeterea post peccatum Luciferi quod idem erit in fine temporum ipsius filij perditioâ—…is Antichristi quem interficiet Dominus spiritâ—… oris sui nec est nec esse potest alterum genus peccatâ—… tam aduersum contrarium Apostolorum doctrinae Euangelicae ipsi Domino Iesu Christo tam odibile tam abominabile quam aniâ—…as curae pastoralis officij ministerij defraudatione mortificare perdere That is Our Lord Iesus Christ himselfe saith hee that is not with me is against me now against him the most diuine holinesse of the Apostolicke sea is not nor cannot bee therefore the tenor of the foresaid letter is not consonant to the Apostolicall holinesse but dissonant and altogether repugnant First because the way is opened to an inundation of inconstancy presumption shamelesnesse lying cousening c. By reason of the non obstante in that and such like letters often heaped vp not proceeding from any necessitie of the obseruation of the naturall law Moreouer after the sinne of Lucifer which also shall be the sinne of Antichrist the sonne of perdition in the end of the world whom the Lord shall kill with the spirit of his mouth there is not nor can be any other kind of sinne so repugnant contrary to the Apostolical Euangelical doctrin to our Lord Iesus Christ so odious and so abominable as this sinne is to kill and destroy the soules of men by defrauding them of the care of the pastorall office and ministery 26. The beginnings of M. Luther with Pope Leo the tenth were much more mild then this but he proceedeth and condemneth this sinne and the Popes letters by Scriptures declaring that they bring in such confusion into the Church which could be practised by none but sueh as are vnder the same condemnation with Lucifer and Antichrist Peâ—…ores sunt Lucifero saith he Antichristo proximâ—…ores in hac 〈◊〉 gradatim quanto magis superexâ—…ellentes qui ex maiori diuâ—…nori poâ—…estate sibâ—… diuinitus in aedificaâ—…mem non in destructionem tradita magis tenentur ab Ecclesia deâ—… tales interemptores pessimos excludere extirpare That is They are worse then Lucifer and next to Antichrist and in this badnesse they rise in a greater degree of euill so much the more by how much they are more excellent who from
successe for fire shall come downe from God out of heauen and deuoure the enemies Vnto which seruice there is nothing so effectuall to animate the princes of Christendome as is this new and strange claime of the popes Iurisdiction ouer princes which thing because it is so much pursued by the Popes and their flatterers and onely by them as the great marke whereunto they addresse all their attempts and the very summe of all their Religion therfore I haue endeuoured to open the whole to distinguish the parts and to set this question in such a light as I could if not to satisfie all yet at least to giue an occasion to the iudicious I was desirous to leaue no part vntouched that all might come to a triall and am ready also withall to bring my selfe to the triall willing to learne and to amend any error after that it shall be manifested by the truth to bee an errour for which cause I submit all to the iudicious and godly censure of the Church My care was also after my seruice to God to performe herein a true seruice to his Maiesty by opening the Iurisdiction of Kings which I haue done not as they vse to doe who serue the Pope respecting no other rules of that seruice then his pleasure and their adulation but I haue disputed the Kings right with a good conscience from the rules of Gods word knowing that the noble disposition of his Maiesty will admit of no seruice whereby God or the truth is preiudiced All which as I commend to your Graces fauour and protection to whom God hath committed the care of his Church here so with my hearty prayers I commend your Grace to the faâ—…our and protection of God who inrich your heart with his plentifull graces that as for your proper comfort and direction you may enioy them so you may vse them to the glory of God and the comfort of his Church through Iesus Christ. Your Graces to be commanded in all duety GEORGE CARLETON An Admonition to the Reader IT may bee thought strange that so many are found to write in this contradicting age one contrary to another the trueth cannot bee on both sides and therefore there is a great fault on the one side the Reader that is desirous to trie where the fault is may be intreated to marke with aduised obseruation some things wherein our aduersaries wanting either knowledge or sinceritie haue broken all the rules of right writing to deceiue such as cannot iudge of which sort the greatest part consisteth I doe therefore intreat the Readers especially such as reade my Booke with a purpose to answere it to consider these things wherein we challeng our aduersaries for euil dealing in this particular Controuersie First In setting downe our opinion they make it not that which we hold but another thing and then make large discourses in vaine they should vnderstand our cause as we deliuer it for we deuise not their opinion but take it out of their owne bookes especially from the Popes Canons Secondly when they would refute vs they bring their owne Canon law which was deuised in preiudice of the freedome of Princes and is our aduersarie and therefore cannot bee our Iudge Thirdly When they produce the testimonies of ancient fathers the abuse for which we challenge them is that they will not vnderstand the question for the fathers write for the spirituall Iurisdiction of the Church aboue Princes which thing we neuer denied But against the coactiue Iurisdiction of Prinees in matters Ecclesiasticall which thing we hold the Fathers neuer wâ—…ote but they are for it If these things were faithfully obserued as they are all peruerted in this cause by one that termeth himself the Catholick Diuine and if the truth were sought with conscience and not preiudice maintained with resolution men would neuer presume so much vpon the simplicitie of the Readers nor in the confidence of their wit and learning would they suffer themselues to be set to the maintenance of any cause whatsoeuer Let me farther intreate him that would aunswere me to enter into this short and serious meditation with himselfe thus Either my purpose is to serue God for the truth and then I may looke for a blessing vpon my labours or else to serue man though against the truth and then I may looke for a curse vpon my selfe and my labours let this Meditation rule thy pen and heart I aske no more Last of all let me intreate thee of curtesie to amend the faults escaped in printing with thy pen thus P. 2. Lin. 10. Or some others superfluous p. 13. l. 2. as superfluous p. 14. l. 29 for more read meer p. 22. l. 28. the superfluous p. 30. l. 15 for teached r. touched p. 52. marg r. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 73. l. 28 r. against the infringers of the priuiledges of the Sea Apostolick p. 85. l. 19. therto superfluous p. 98. l. 27. full superfluous p. 105. l. 8. r. M. Luther p. 107. l. 2. r. M. Luther p. 108. l. 16. r. M. Bucer p. 108. l. 20. r. M. Antonius Flam. p. 109. l. 10. r. M. Chemnicius p. 195. l. 19. Deposed by Pope Stephen r. deposed or his deposition allowed by the consent of Pope Stephen p. 198. l. 4. for the Bishops r. some Bishops p. 211. l. 11. for opportunelyr opportunity p. 228. l. r2 some report the poyson to haue beene giuen in the bread and some in the cup. p. 229. l. 31. for great r. greatest p. 234 l. 15. for Frederic r. Lodouic p. 234. l. 22. for Rhenes r. Rense p. 234. l. 27. for Rhenes r. Rense p. 236. l 19. generall superfluous p. 250. l. 28. r. adhaerentium adhaerere volentium p. 262. l. 21. for ver r. viri p. 272. l. 18. for chusing r. choosen p. 272. l. 22. for to r. in p. 279. l. 30. no supeâ—…fluous p. 294. l. 16. for cultus r. cultu OF THE IVRISDICTION OF PRINCES IN Causes and ouer Persons Ecclesiasticall CHAP. I. The state of the Question THe lawfull authoritie and Iurisdiction of Kings in matters Ecclesiasticall is now and hath beene for some ages heeretofore much impugned by such who by vsurpation hauing incroached vpon the right of Kings seeke by all subtill and colourable deuises to maintaine that by skill and some shew of learning which they haue gotten by fraud All this mischiefe proceedeth from the Bishop of Rome who vsurping powre and taking to himselfe that honour whereunto God hath not called him hath brought all authoritie Ecclesiasticall and Ciuill into great confusion by vsurping the right both of the Church and of States Now our desire being to open the truth and to declare the lawfull right of Princes and power of the Church it seemeth needfull first to set downe what power is giuen to the Pope by them that flatter him so shall the right of the King and of the Church better appeare 2 They yeeld to the Pope a fulnesse of power as they