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any_o of_o their_o administration_n take_v to_o have_v be_v null_a sect._n 31._o argument_n 9_o if_o the_o ministration_n or_o govern_v act_n of_o usurp_a prince_n may_v be_v valid_a and_o there_o need_v no_o proof_n of_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n to_o prove_v the_o validity_n then_o be_v it_o so_o also_o in_o the_o ministry_n but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v certain_a therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o validity_n of_o the_o consequence_n from_o the_o parity_n of_o reason_n i_o shall_v manifest_v anon_o sect._n 32._o argument_n 10_o if_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n of_o canonical_a or_o true_a ordination_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o church_n ministry_n and_o ordinance_n than_o rome_n and_o england_n have_v lose_v their_o ministry_n church_n and_o ordinance_n but_o the_o consequent_a will_v be_v deny_v by_o the_o adversary_n therefore_o so_o also_o must_v the_o antecedent_n if_o they_o regard_v their_o stand_n sect._n 33._o though_o this_o be_v the_o argument_n 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church_n answ._n 1._o that_o be_v not_o prove_v but_o naked_o affirm_v 2._o nor_o will_v it_o serve_v the_o papist_n turn_v that_o must_v have_v all_o church_n hold_v from_o rome_n and_o her_o succession_n and_o rome_n from_o none_o nor_o to_o be_v patch_v up_o from_o their_o succession_n 3._o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la the_o contrary_n be_v certain_a for_o 1._o those_o other_o hold_v their_o ministry_n as_o from_o the_o universal_a headship_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o therefore_o have_v themselves_o their_o interruption_n in_o the_o former_a interruption_n of_o rome_n as_o be_v but_o her_o member_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o capable_a themselves_o of_o repair_v of_o her_o breach_n 2._o the_o successor_n of_o the_o illegitimate_a pope_n such_o as_o depose_v eugenius_n etc._n etc._n and_o man_n as_o bad_a as_o they_o have_v continue_v the_o succession_n and_o tâ—e_v bishop_n that_o be_v consecrate_v by_o power_n receive_v from_o the_o illegitimate_a pope_n be_v the_o only_a person_n that_o be_v the_o repairer_n of_o the_o breach_n and_o yet_o the_o pope_n will_v hardly_o yield_v that_o he_o receive_v his_o power_n from_o any_o of_o these_o 3_o there_o have_v be_v great_a defect_n in_o the_o succession_n than_o this_o of_o consecration_n even_o of_o due_a election_n capacity_n yea_o of_o a_o office_n itself_o which_o christ_n will_v own_v the_o vicechristship_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v no_o office_n of_o christ_n plant_n sect._n 35._o and_o 2_o for_o the_o english_a prelate_n as_o they_o be_v unable_a to_o prove_v their_o uninterrupted_a succession_n so_o the_o interruption_n be_v prove_v in_o that_o they_o derive_v and_o hold_v their_o power_n from_o the_o vicechrist_n of_o rome_n and_o that_o qua_fw-la talis_fw-la for_o so_o many_o age_n this_o be_v their_o own_o profession_n and_o all_o that_o they_o do_v be_v as_o his_o minister_n by_o his_o authority_n which_o be_v none_o sect._n 36._o object_n but_o this_o null_v not_o the_o true_a authority_n which_o they_o receive_v from_o the_o pope_n or_o prelate_n as_o prelate_n answ._n the_o pope_n be_v uncapable_a of_o give_v they_o authority_n and_o whether_o the_o prelate_n as_o such_o be_v so_o too_o we_o shall_v inquire_v anon_o and_o though_o i_o grant_v that_o where_o the_o person_n be_v fit_a there_o be_v yet_o a_o ministry_n valid_a to_o the_o church_n and_o perhaps_o to_o themselves_o in_o the_o main_a yet_o that_o be_v because_o canonical_a ordination_n be_v not_o of_o necessity_n to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n but_o by_o other_o mean_v they_o may_v be_v then_o minister_n though_o this_o corruption_n be_v conjunct_a that_o they_o receive_v their_o power_n imaginarily_o from_o râ—me_n but_o that_o the_o say_v canonical_a succession_n be_v interrupt_v by_o this_o papal_a tenure_n and_o many_o a_o delinquency_n be_v nevertheless_o sure_a and_o sufficient_a to_o enforce_v the_o argument_n as_o to_o they_o that_o now_o be_v our_o adversary_n but_o so_o much_o shall_v suffice_v for_o the_o 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how_o quiet_a will_v my_o mind_n be_v be_v i_o but_o sure_o that_o god_n require_v none_o of_o this_o at_o my_o hand_n nor_o will_v call_v i_o to_o any_o account_n for_o the_o neglect_n of_o it_o and_o that_o this_o be_v not_o my_o case_n only_o but_o the_o common_a case_n to_o find_v discipline_n so_o troublesome_a be_v apparent_a in_o this_o that_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o nation_n for_o the_o generality_n have_v contend_v against_o it_o these_o many_o year_n and_o in_o almost_o every_o congregation_n in_o england_n the_o great_a part_n do_v either_o separate_v from_o the_o minister_n and_o forbear_v the_o lord_n supper_n or_o some_o way_n oppose_v it_o and_o withdraw_v that_o they_o may_v avoid_v it_o and_o most_o of_o the_o minister_n in_o england_n even_o godly_a man_n do_v much_o if_o not_o
act_n yet_o all_o that_o he_o do_v quite_o out_o of_o the_o line_n of_o his_o office_n be_v nullity_n sect._n 14._o we_o see_v then_o that_o all_o that_o the_o law_n have_v leave_v to_o the_o ordainer_n be_v but_o this_o in_o general_n to_o discern_v and_o judge_v of_o the_o person_n that_o be_v qualify_v according_a to_o the_o description_n of_o the_o law_n and_o particular_o to_o call_v he_o out_o to_o the_o work_n if_o he_o need_v excitement_n and_o to_o try_v and_o approve_v he_o before_o he_o be_v admit_v and_o to_o invest_v he_o or_o solemnize_v his_o admittance_n at_o his_o entry_n so_o that_o the_o sum_n of_o all_o be_v but_o to_o find_v out_o the_o qualify_a person_n because_o he_o be_v not_o name_v by_o the_o law_n sect._n 15._o and_o even_o in_o this_o the_o ordainer_n be_v not_o the_o only_a discerner_n or_o judge_n but_o the_o person_n himself_o the_o people_n and_o the_o magistrate_n have_v all_o the_o forementioned_a part_n in_o the_o work_n and_o god_n himself_o go_v before_o they_o all_o and_o by_o providence_n frequent_o point_v they_o out_o the_o man_n who_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o choose_v ordain_v accept_v and_o submit_v unto_o and_o that_o by_o these_o particular_a act_n sect._n 16._o 1._o as_o god_n do_v plain_o describe_v the_o person_n in_o the_o word_n so_o he_o do_v qualify_v they_o according_o by_v his_o gift_n and_o that_o of_o three_o sort_n even_o his_o special_a grace_n necessary_a so_o far_o as_o be_v before_o mention_v ministerial_a ability_n of_o knowledge_n and_o utterance_n and_o a_o desire_n after_o the_o work_n for_o its_o end_n 2._o god_n use_v to_o qualify_v so_o small_a a_o number_n thus_o compare_v with_o his_o church_n mecessity_n that_o whether_o they_o shall_v be_v minister_n in_o general_n or_o not_o be_v seldom_o matter_n of_o controversy_n to_o prudent_a man_n or_o at_o least_o a_o doubt_n that_o be_v more_o easy_a to_o decide_v 3._o god_n use_v by_o providence_n to_o give_v some_o one_o man_n by_o advantage_n of_o part_n acquaintance_n opportunity_n interest_n etc._n etc._n a_o special_a fitness_n for_o one_o place_n and_o people_n above_o other_o man_n and_o so_o to_o facilitate_v the_o decision_n 4._o god_n use_v to_o stir_v up_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o church_n to_o choose_v or_o consent_v to_o the_o person_n thus_o qualify_v 5._o and_o he_o use_v to_o stir_v up_o desire_n or_o consent_n in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o person_n to_o be_v the_o pastor_n of_o that_o particular_a flock_n 6._o and_o he_o use_v oft_o time_n to_o procure_v he_o liberty_n if_o not_o some_o call_n from_o the_o magistrate_n 7._o and_o also_o to_o remove_v impediment_n in_o his_o way_n 8._o and_o to_o assist_v ordainer_n in_o discern_v the_o qualification_n of_o the_o person_n when_o the_o work_n come_v to_o their_o hand_n all_o this_o god_n do_v providential_o sect._n 17._o by_o this_o much_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o ordainer_n do_v not_o give_v the_o power_n as_o from_o themselves_o to_o other_o nor_o do_v it_o pass_v through_o their_o hand_n they_o be_v but_o the_o occasion_n and_o the_o instrument_n of_o inauguration_n or_o solemn_a possession_n when_o their_o interposition_n be_v due_a it_o be_v the_o stand_a act_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o law_n that_o give_v the_o power_n immediate_o i_o say_v immediate_o as_o without_o any_o mediate_a receive_n and_o convey_v cause_n that_o be_v direct_o efficient_a of_o the_o power_n itself_o though_o not_o so_o immediate_o as_o to_o exclude_v all_o preparation_n and_o perfect_a instrument_n accidental_a cause_n &_o other_o mean_n as_o in_o case_n of_o marriage_n it_o be_v the_o woman_n consent_n that_o be_v of_o necessity_n to_o the_o designation_n of_o the_o person_n that_o shall_v be_v her_o husband_n but_o it_o be_v not_o her_o consent_n that_o proper_o give_v he_o the_o power_n of_o a_o husband_n over_o she_o for_o that_o be_v do_v by_o god_n himself_o in_o that_o law_n by_o which_o he_o constitute_v the_o husband_n to_o be_v head_n of_o the_o wife_n and_o determine_v in_o specie_fw-la of_o his_o power_n which_o one_o determination_n immediate_o confer_v the_o power_n on_o all_o individual_a person_n when_o once_o they_o be_v choose_v and_o name_v so_o that_o the_o elector_n of_o the_o person_n do_v but_o prepare_v and_o dispose_v he_o to_o receive_v the_o power_n and_o not_o give_v it_o he_o do_v but_o open_a the_o door_n and_o let_v man_n in_o to_o the_o ministry_n &_o not_o give_v it_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o bring_v the_o person_n to_o the_o pool_n that_o heal_v that_o he_o may_v be_v the_o man_n that_o first_o shall_v enter_v and_o it_o be_v another_o thing_n to_o heal_v he_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o judge_n of_o the_o person_n that_o shall_v receive_v the_o power_n immediate_o from_o god_n and_o another_o thing_n to_o give_v it_o he_o ourselves_o sect._n 18._o it_o be_v thus_o in_o the_o case_n of_o magistrate_n power_n in_o which_o man_n interest_n have_v ever_o be_v more_o discernible_a to_o the_o world_n and_o beyond_o controversy_n then_o in_o the_o power_n of_o minister_n though_o here_o there_o be_v a_o certain_a specification_n that_o depend_v on_o the_o will_n of_o man_n yet_o the_o power_n itself_o be_v immediate_o from_o god_n and_o man_n do_v but_o choose_v the_o person_n that_o shall_v receive_v it_o and_o present_v he_o to_o god_n and_o solemn_o inaugurate_a he_o and_o for_o my_o part_n i_o think_v i_o shall_v never_o consent_v to_o any_o side_n that_o will_v needs_o give_v more_o to_o man_n whether_o presbyter_n prelate_n or_o people_n in_o make_v a_o minister_n then_o in_o make_v a_o king_n all_o power_n be_v of_o god_n the_o power_n that_o be_v be_v ordain_v of_o god_n sect._n 19_o if_o any_o doubt_n of_o this_o as_o i_o perceive_v by_o many_o write_n they_o do_v i_o shall_v to_o spare_v the_o labour_n of_o a_o digression_n refer_v they_o to_o the_o copious_a unanswerable_a labour_n of_o abundance_n of_o protestant_n that_o have_v write_v in_o england_n for_o the_o royal_a power_n but_o instead_o of_o more_o let_v they_o but_o read_v spalatensis_n and_o saravia_n and_o bilson_n and_o rest_v satisfy_v or_o confute_v they_o before_o they_o expect_v any_o more_o from_o i_o sect._n 20._o as_o in_o the_o make_n of_o bailiff_n for_o our_o corporation_n either_o the_o people_n or_o the_o burgess_n have_v the_o power_n of_o choose_v and_o the_o steward_n or_o recorder_n have_v the_o power_n of_o swear_v he_o and_o perform_v the_o ceremony_n and_o yet_o none_o of_o these_o confer_v the_o power_n but_o only_o design_v the_o person_n who_o receive_v the_o power_n from_o the_o prince_n alone_o by_o the_o charter_n of_o the_o city_n or_o town_n as_o his_o instrument_n so_o be_v it_o in_o the_o ordain_v of_o minister_n the_o people_n may_v choose_v and_o the_o pastor_n may_v invest_v but_o its_o god_n only_o by_o the_o gospel_n charter_n that_o confer_v the_o power_n from_o himself_o sect._n 21._o hence_o it_o be_v plaâ—n_o that_o the_o argument_n be_v vain_a that_o be_v common_o use_v by_o the_o prelate_n from_o nemo_n that_o quod_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la for_o it_o false_o suppose_v that_o the_o ordainer_n be_v the_o giver_n of_o power_n the_o master-error_n in_o their_o frame_n christ_n have_v it_o and_o christ_n give_v it_o man_n give_v it_o not_o though_o some_o of_o they_o have_v it_o for_o they_o have_v it_o only_o to_o use_v and_o not_o to_o give_v when_o the_o people_n choose_v a_o king_n they_o give_v he_o not_o the_o power_n but_o god_n give_v it_o to_o the_o man_n who_o the_o people_n choose_v when_o our_o corporation_n choose_v their_o bailiff_n the_o chooser_n give_v he_o not_o the_o power_n for_o they_o have_v it_o not_o themselves_o but_o they_o determine_v of_o the_o man_n that_o immediate_o from_o the_o prince_n charter_n shall_v receive_v it_o nor_o do_v the_o recorder_n or_o steward_n give_v it_o primary_o but_o only_o instrumentaliter_fw-la &_o perfective_a by_o a_o ceremonial_a inauguration_n so_o the_o people_n give_v not_o pastor_n the_o power_n nor_o the_o ordainer_n but_o only_o complemental_o sect._n 22._o from_o what_o be_v aforesaid_a also_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v found_v first_o in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n itself_o which_o upon_o supposition_n of_o man_n misery_n and_o his_o recovery_n by_o christ_n and_o the_o promise_n and_o mean_n appoint_v for_o application_n require_v every_o man_n that_o have_v ability_n and_o opportunity_n to_o do_v his_o best_a in_o the_o order_n appoint_v he_o by_o god_n to_o save_v man_n soul_n by_o proclaim_v the_o gospel_n and_o use_v god_n appoint_v mean_n for_o the_o great_a and_o bless_a end_n that_o be_v before_o we_o sect._n 23._o hence_o it_o also_o appear_v that_o god_n first_o command_n partly_o in_o nature_n and_o partly_o
will_v appear_v that_o the_o power_n of_o baptise_v and_o judge_v who_o shall_v be_v take_v for_o christian_n and_o who_o not_o and_o the_o power_n of_o administer_a the_o eucharist_n and_o eucharistical_a action_n in_o the_o church_n be_v as_o great_a as_o this_o of_o ordination_n especial_o suppose_v that_o a_o presbytery_n must_v concur_v in_o this_o and_o a_o single_a pesbyter_n may_v do_v the_o other_o and_o therefore_o the_o one_o be_v grant_v they_o the_o other_o can_v be_v deny_v sect._n 49._o argument_n 16._o if_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o teacher_n in_o christ_n day_n among_o the_o jew_n be_v valid_a to_o the_o people_n than_o the_o ordination_n of_o our_o presbytery_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o our_o presbyter_n so_o ordain_v be_v valid_a to_o the_o people_n and_o receiver_n now_o but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o consequent_a this_o argument_n be_v manage_v so_o frequent_o and_o copious_o by_o our_o minister_n heretofore_o against_o the_o separatist_n that_o i_o shall_v need_v to_o say_v but_o little_a of_o it_o sect._n 50._o the_o antecedent_n be_v prove_v easy_o from_o scripture_n act_n 13.27_o &_o 15.21_o show_v that_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n be_v read_v in_o the_o synagogue_n every_o sabbath_n day_n and_o luke_n 16.29_o show_v that_o it_o be_v the_o people_n duty_n to_o hear_v they_o mat._n 23.1_o 2_o 3._o then_o speak_v jesus_n to_o the_o multitude_n and_o to_o his_o disciple_n say_v the_o scribe_n and_o the_o pharisee_n sit_v in_o moses_n seat_n all_o therefore_o whatsoever_o they_o bid_v you_o observe_v that_o observe_v and_o do_v but_o do_v not_o you_o after_o their_o work_n for_o they_o say_v and_o do_v not_o mat._n 8.4_o mark_v 1.44_o luke_n 16.29_o but_o go_v thy_o way_n show_v thyself_o to_o the_o priest_n and_o offer_v for_o thy_o cleanse_v those_o thing_n which_o moses_n command_v etc._n etc._n so_o that_o it_o be_v the_o people_n duty_n to_o hear_v and_o submit_v to_o the_o teacher_n and_o the_o priest_n sect._n 51._o the_o reason_n of_o the_o consequence_n be_v because_o these_o priest_n and_o teacher_n have_v not_o so_o good_a a_o call_n as_o our_o presbyter_n to_o their_o office_n but_o be_v liable_a to_o far_o more_o exception_n the_o priest_n be_v not_o of_o the_o line_n that_o god_n have_v by_o his_o law_n appoint_v to_o succeed_v in_o the_o priesthood_n the_o succession_n have_v long_o fail_v as_o to_o the_o just_a title_n of_o the_o successor_n the_o priesthood_n be_v buy_v for_o money_n of_o the_o civil_a power_n and_o instead_o of_o be_v the_o priest_n for_o life_n he_o be_v oft_o change_v every_o year_n choose_v by_o a_o pagan_a prince_n and_o by_o he_o displace_v and_o most_o think_v there_o be_v two_o at_o once_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n have_v abominable_o corrupt_v the_o law_n by_o their_o tradition_n and_o false_a exposition_n and_o their_o call_v be_v much_o more_o defective_a than_o we_o so_o that_o if_o they_o must_v pass_v yet_o for_o minister_n of_o god_n and_o their_o administration_n be_v valid_a then_o so_o must_v presbyter_n and_o their_o administration_n be_v esteem_v much_o more_o i_o know_v we_o need_v not_o this_o odious_a comparison_n of_o our_o ministry_n with_o the_o priest_n or_o pharisee_n but_o to_o show_v the_o adversary_n the_o odiousness_n of_o their_o accusation_n and_o grossness_n of_o their_o 〈…〉_z 〈…〉_z presbyter_n may_v make_v a_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d they_o may_v make_v a_o 〈◊〉_d but_o they_o may_v make_v a_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d they_o may_v make_v 〈◊〉_d ordain_v a_o presbyter_n the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o major_n be_v prove_v thus_o 1._o they_o that_o may_v confer_v 〈…〉_z degree_n may_v confer_v the_o low_a the_o place_n of_o a_o bishop_n be_v suppose_v the_o high_a degree_n and_o the_o place_n of_o a_o presbyter_n the_o low_a 2._o â—he_n bishop_n themselves_o require_v more_o power_n in_o or_o to_o the_o consecration_n of_o a_o bishop_n then_o to_o the_o ordination_n of_o a_o minister_n call_v a_o presbyter_n the_o late_a may_v be_v do_v according_a to_o their_o canon_n by_o one_o bishop_n with_o assist_v presbyter_n but_o the_o former_a must_v have_v three_o bishop_n at_o the_o least_o sect._n 53._o to_o this_o it_o be_v common_o answer_v that_o praecise_a the_o ordination_n of_o a_o presbyter_n be_v a_o great_a work_n than_o the_o make_n of_o a_o bishop_n and_o therefore_o the_o major_n be_v deny_v to_o which_o i_o reply_v 1._o i_o speak_v not_o of_o a_o great_a work_n because_o the_o word_n great_a be_v ambiguous_a and_o may_v signify_v the_o great_a change_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o terminus_n a_o quo_fw-la which_o be_v not_o it_o that_o i_o intend_v but_o the_o addition_n of_o a_o high_a degree_n of_o power_n may_v require_v more_o power_n to_o the_o effect_v it_o than_o the_o give_v of_o the_o low_a degree_n though_o the_o low_a be_v praecise_a the_o great_a change_n for_o the_o high_a be_v the_o great_a change_n as_o to_o the_o terminus_fw-la ad_fw-la quem_fw-la and_o as_o episcopacy_n comprehend_v or_o suppose_v presbytery_n so_o the_o power_n of_o make_v a_o bishop_n comprehend_v or_o suppose_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v presbyter_n it_o may_v be_v praecise_a or_o cum_fw-la praecisione_n as_o the_o schoolman_n speak_v it_o may_v be_v a_o great_a work_n to_o make_v a_o beggar_n to_o be_v the_o chief_a prince_n next_o to_o the_o king_n in_o a_o kingdom_n and_o yet_o sinâ—_n praecisione_n and_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o terminus_fw-la ad_fw-la quem_fw-la it_o be_v a_o great_a work_n to_o make_v he_o afterward_o a_o king_n and_o doubtless_o the_o addition_n of_o this_o power_n require_v the_o great_a power_n to_o effect_v it_o sect._n 54._o otherwise_o if_o the_o dissenter_n will_v stand_v to_o their_o answer_n we_o shall_v from_o their_o own_o ground_n infallible_o overthrow_v their_o cause_n thus_o it_o be_v a_o great_a work_n to_o baptise_v then_o to_o ordain_v or_o confirm_v therefore_o he_o that_o may_v baptise_v may_v ordain_v and_o confirm_v just_o as_o make_v a_o presbyter_n be_v cum_fw-la praecisione_n and_o in_o respect_n to_o the_o terminus_fw-la a_o quo_fw-la a_o great_a work_n than_o consecrate_v or_o make_v a_o bishop_n so_o baptise_v be_v come_v praecisione_n and_o in_o respect_n to_o the_o terminus_fw-la a_o quo_fw-la a_o far_o great_a work_n than_o ordination_n the_o one_o make_v a_o christian_n and_o the_o other_o a_o minister_n of_o a_o christian_n see_v aquil._n in_o scotel_n in_o 4._o scent_n d._n 7._o q._n 2._o pag._n 816._o of_o confirmation_n sect._n 55._o it_o be_v only_o the_o minor_a therefore_o that_o will_v hold_v dispute_n which_o i_o prove_v from_o the_o well_o know_a word_n of_o hierom_n to_o evagrius_n which_o bishop_n usher_v tell_v i_o he_o allege_v to_o king_n charles_n at_o the_o isle_n of_o wight_n to_o this_o end_n when_o he_o be_v ask_v by_o he_o for_o a_o instance_n of_o presbyter_n ordain_v quod_fw-la autem_fw-la postea_fw-la unus_fw-la electus_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la caeteris_fw-la praeponeâ—etur_fw-la in_fw-la schismatis_fw-la remedium_fw-la factum_fw-la est_fw-la ne_fw-la unusquisque_fw-la ad_fw-la se_fw-la trahens_fw-la christi_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la rumperet_fw-la no_o &_o alexandria_n à _fw-fr marco_n evangelista_n usque_fw-la ad_fw-la heraclam_fw-la &_o dionysium_fw-la episcopos_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la semper_fw-la unum_fw-la ex_fw-la se_fw-la electum_fw-la in_fw-la excelsiori_fw-la gradu_fw-la collocatum_fw-la episcopum_fw-la nominabant_fw-la quomodo_fw-la si_fw-la exercitus_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la faciat_fw-la aut_fw-la diaconi_fw-la eligant_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la quem_fw-la industrium_fw-la noverint_fw-la &_o archidiaconum_n vocent_fw-la presbyter_n than_o make_v the_o first_o bishop_n at_o alexandria_n sect._n 56._o to_o this_o it_o be_v answer_v that_o it_o be_v only_a election_n of_o bishop_n that_o hierom_n ascribe_v to_o the_o alexandrian_a presbyter_n and_o not_o ordination_n of_o they_o for_o that_o be_v do_v by_o some_o other_o bishop_n and_o that_o it_o be_v ordination_n that_o make_v a_o man_n a_o bishop_n sect._n 57_o to_o this_o i_o reply_v 1._o hierom_n here_o undertake_v to_o tell_v we_o how_o bishop_n be_v make_v at_o alexandria_n but_o make_v not_o the_o least_o mention_n of_o other_o ordination_n or_o consecration_n than_o these_o word_n express_v as_o do_v by_o the_o presbyter_n and_o therefore_o till_o they_o prove_v it_o we_o must_v take_v the_o affirmation_n of_o another_o ordination_n to_o be_v but_o the_o groundless_a presumption_n of_o the_o assertor_n 2._o hierom_n do_v purposely_o bring_v this_o as_o a_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o identity_n first_o and_o the_o nearness_n afterward_o of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n that_o presbyter_n make_v bishop_n which_o will_v have_v be_v no_o argument_n if_o it_o be_v not_o presbyter_n but_o prelate_n that_o make_v they_o and_o if_o the_o presbyter_n only_o choose_v they_o for_o 3._o the_o people_n may_v choose_v a_o bishop_n as_o well_o as_o the_o presbyter_n and_o ordinary_o do_v
onuphrius_n navarrus_n yea_o bellarmine_n and_o pope_n nicolaâ—_n who_o maintain_v that_o in_o summo_fw-la pontifice_fw-la pâ—st_fw-la electionem_fw-la nulla_fw-la alia_fw-la requiritur_fw-la confirmatio_fw-la quia_fw-la statim_fw-la ut_fw-la electus_fw-la est_fw-la suscipit_fw-la administrationem_fw-la and_o to_o this_o agree_v their_o practice_n who_o at_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v many_o bishop_n mere_o elect_a and_o elect_a cardinal_n be_v admit_v to_o elect_a a_o pope_n his_o six_o argument_n be_v quod_fw-la consecratio_fw-la seu_fw-la investitura_fw-la potest_fw-la abâ—sse_fw-la aliquo_fw-la in_o casu_fw-la electio_fw-la autem_fw-la nunquam_fw-la ergo_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la ministerii_fw-la seu_fw-la potestatis_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la est_fw-la electio_fw-la &_o non_fw-la consecratio_fw-la which_o he_o endeavour_v to_o confirm_v my_o opinion_n of_o the_o fundamentum_fw-la potestatis_fw-la i_o have_v express_v in_o my_o christian_a concord_n othrrwise_o but_o yet_o i_o consent_v as_o be_v there_o express_v to_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o people_n consent_n to_o our_o office_n sect._n 90._o argument_n 20._o if_o those_o in_o the_o reform_a church_n that_o be_v ordain_v by_o presbyter_n have_v as_o good_a a_o call_n to_o the_o ministerial_a office_n as_o the_o prince_n of_o the_o nation_n yea_o any_o one_o of_o they_o have_v to_o their_o sovereignty_n or_o power_n then_o be_v they_o true_a minister_n of_o christ_n and_o their_o administration_n valid_a to_o the_o church_n and_o their_o ministry_n to_o be_v receive_v but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o consequent_a and_o i_o prove_v they_o both_o sect._n 91._o the_o secular_a power_n will_v be_v grant_v as_o to_o the_o most_o at_o least_o of_o christian_n prince_n and_o other_o sovereign_n when_o the_o holy_a ghost_n command_v subjection_n to_o the_o high_a power_n even_o when_o they_o be_v heathen_a and_o come_v in_o as_o neâ—o_n do_v rom._n 13._o we_o may_v well_o take_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o christian_a magistrate_n that_o have_v no_o better_a title_n than_o he_o be_v such_o as_o we_o must_v be_v subject_a to_o even_o those_o that_o have_v not_o so_o lawful_a a_o entrance_n as_o may_v justify_v their_o possession_n or_o free_v they_o from_o the_o guilt_n of_o flat_a usurpation_n before_o god_n may_v yet_o â—e_v such_o while_n they_o be_v in_o possession_n as_o we_o must_v be_v subject_a to_o for_o conscience_n sake_n and_o all_o their_o administration_n be_v â—s_n valid_a to_o the_o innocent_a subject_n as_o if_o they_o have_v as_o good_a a_o title_n as_o the_o best_a they_o that_o deny_v this_o must_v overthrow_v almost_o all_o the_o commonwealth's_a on_o earth_n and_o turn_v subjection_n into_o rebellion_n sect._n 92._o the_o consequence_n than_o be_v prove_v from_o the_o parity_n of_o reason_n in_o both_o 〈◊〉_d the_o title_n of_o such_o prince_n be_v so_o far_o good_a as_o that_o subjection_n be_v due_a to_o they_o and_o their_o government_n valid_a our_o title_n to_o the_o ministry_n be_v at_o least_o as_o good_a as_o they_o therefore_o submission_n or_o obedience_n be_v due_a to_o we_o and_o our_o administration_n valid_a to_o the_o church_n and_o that_o our_o title_n be_v as_o good_a as_o they_o will_v appear_v by_o a_o due_a comparison_n sect._n 93._o 1._o god_n be_v equal_o the_o author_n of_o our_o office_n and_o of_o they_o he_o that_o appoint_v the_o magistrate_n to_o rule_v by_o force_n appoint_v the_o ministry_n to_o teach_v and_o guide_n and_o worship_n public_o before_o the_o church_n there_o be_v no_o power_n but_o of_o god_n even_o magistrate_n can_v have_v none_o unless_o it_o be_v give_v they_o from_o above_o 2._o usurpation_n therefore_o be_v a_o sin_n in_o magistrate_n as_o well_o as_o minister_n and_o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n why_o it_o shall_v invalidate_v their_o action_n as_o we_o if_o we_o be_v guilty_a of_o it_o 3._o the_o dissenter_n rule_v nemo_fw-la that_o quod_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la concern_v the_o magistrate_n as_o much_o as_o the_o minister_n and_o somewhat_o more_o a_o man_n may_v do_v more_o in_o work_n of_o service_n to_o other_o without_o a_o special_a office_n then_o in_o magisterial_a government_n magistracy_n be_v a_o relation_n that_o must_v have_v a_o foundation_n or_o efficient_a cause_n as_o well_o as_o ministry_n if_o a_o giver_n that_o himself_o have_v the_o power_n give_v be_v necessary_a to_o make_v minister_n than_o also_o to_o make_v magistrate_n which_o yet_o be_v false_a in_o both_o if_o you_o speak_v of_o humane_a donation_n to_o the_o sovereign_n the_o effect_n can_v no_o more_o be_v without_o a_o cause_n in_o they_o then_o in_o we_o 4._o iâ—_n the_o election_n or_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n be_v enough_o to_o make_v a_o magistrate_n or_o to_o be_v the_o foundation_n or_o donation_n as_o they_o suppose_v of_o his_o authority_n then_o much_o more_o may_v the_o election_n or_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n with_o the_o approbation_n and_o investiture_n by_o presbyter_n and_o allowance_n of_o the_o magistrate_n prove_v those_o in_o question_n to_o be_v true_a minister_n 5._o no_o prince_n on_o earth_n that_o ever_o â—_o hear_v of_o can_v prove_v any_o thing_n like_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n of_o legitimate_a prince_n from_o a_o predecessor_n immediate_o authorize_v by_o god_n if_o hereditary_a prince_n that_o be_v the_o successor_n of_o usurper_n be_v not_o to_o be_v obey_v it_o will_v be_v hard_a to_o find_v a_o hereditary_a prince_n that_o be_v to_o be_v obey_v so_o that_o their_o case_n be_v worse_a than_o the_o case_n of_o minister_n sect._n 94._o for_o though_o 1._o no_o pastor_n on_o earth_n can_v prove_v a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n of_o person_n lawful_o ordain_v 2._o nor_o be_v it_o necessary_a to_o prove_v a_o local_a succession_n because_o god_n have_v not_o tie_v his_o church_n to_o town_n or_o country_n and_o a_o church_n and_o pastor_n that_o be_v banish_v into_o another_o land_n may_v there_o be_v the_o same_o church_n and_o pastor_n though_o in_o and_o of_o another_o place_n yet_o 1._o we_o have_v a_o succession_n of_o possession_n in_o the_o office_n itself_o 2._o and_o a_o succession_n of_o actual_a ordination_n in_o great_a probability_n no_o man_n can_v prove_v against_o we_o that_o we_o receive_v our_o ministry_n from_o any_o that_o be_v not_o actual_o ordain_v yet_o this_o much_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o our_o office_n sect._n 95._o object_n but_o christ_n have_v tie_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n to_o a_o legitimate_a ordination_n but_o he_o have_v not_o tie_v the_o magistracy_n to_o a_o lawful_a title_n answ._n here_o be_v two_o falsehood_n bare_o affirm_v or_o employ_v one_o be_v that_o a_o just_a title_n be_v less_o necessary_a to_o the_o magistrate_n than_o the_o minister_n when_o the_o reason_n of_o both_o be_v the_o same_o title_n be_v the_o foundation_n of_o right_n magistracy_n be_v a_o right_n of_o govern_v no_o relation_n can_v be_v without_o its_o foundation_n the_o other_o be_v that_o god_n have_v tie_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n to_o a_o legitimate_a ordination_n this_o be_v unprove_v and_o i_o have_v prove_v the_o contrary_a before_o it_o be_v our_o duty_n to_o enter_v by_o legitimate_a ordination_n where_o it_o may_v be_v have_v and_o thus_o we_o do_v but_o if_o any_o of_o our_o predecessor_n perhaps_o a_o thousand_o or_o five_o hundred_o year_n ago_o do_v enter_v otherwise_o that_o do_v not_o invalidate_v our_o ordination_n or_o ministry_n nor_o be_v it_o any_o of_o our_o sin_n sect._n 96._o as_o minister_n be_v at_o first_o ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n so_o king_n be_v choose_v by_o god_n and_o in_o the_o church_n anoint_v by_o a_o prophet_n or_o special_a officer_n of_o god_n and_o sometime_o by_o the_o people_n that_o be_v by_o their_o suffrage_n appoint_v it_o or_o consent_v to_o it_o as_o appear_v 1_o sam._n 10.1_o &_o 15.17_o &_o 16.13_o &_o 24.6_o 2_o sam._n 2.4_o 7._o &_o 5.3_o &_o 12.7_o &_o 19.10_o 1_o king_n 1.45_o &_o 5.1_o 2_o king_n 11.12_o &_o 23.30_o 2_o chron._n 22.7_o so_o that_o there_o be_v as_o much_o in_o scripture_n for_o this_o manner_n of_o their_o investiture_n as_o there_o be_v for_o minister_n ordination_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n yet_o may_v they_o be_v king_n that_o have_v no_o such_o investiture_n much_o less_o all_o their_o predecessor_n we_o then_o that_o have_v a_o due_a investiture_n may_v prove_v our_o ministry_n whatever_o our_o predecessor_n have_v sect._n 97._o i_o come_v now_o to_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o adversary_n of_o our_o ministry_n which_o i_o need_v not_o stand_v long_o on_o because_o they_o be_v few_o and_o scarce_o considerable_a and_o sufficient_o answer_v in_o what_o be_v say_v and_o first_o its_o say_a by_o a_o learned_a man_n dissâ—rtaâ—_n de_fw-fr episcop_n contra_fw-la blondel_n praemoniâ—_n ad_fw-la lâ—ctor_n sect_n 4.13_o nos_fw-la illud_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la discâ—ptatione_n pro_fw-la concesso_fw-la positum_fw-la censâ—bimus_fw-la
neminâ—m_fw-la rectâ—_n dare_v quod_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la eumque_fw-la aut_fw-la eâ—s_fw-la qui_fw-la hac_fw-la potestate_fw-la induâ—i_fw-la nunquam_fw-la fuerint_fw-la sine_fw-la viâ—latione_fw-la aut_fw-la sacrilegio_fw-la quâ—dâ—m_fw-la sibi_fw-la arrogare_fw-la aut_fw-la assumere_fw-la aut_fw-la aliis_fw-la aeque_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la non_fw-la vocatis_fw-la aut_fw-la missis_fw-la communicare_fw-la neutiquam_fw-la posse_fw-la illud_fw-la hic_fw-la nobis_fw-la unicum_fw-la mâ—minisse_fw-la sufficiet_fw-la unumquemque_fw-la in_o anglicana_n ecclesia_fw-la ab_fw-la epiâ—copis_fw-la ordinatum_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la nulla_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la alios_fw-la facultate_fw-la aut_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la aut_fw-la quà _fw-la quolibet_fw-la comparium_fw-la caetu_fw-la munitum_fw-la praeditum_fw-la esse_fw-la nec_fw-la igitur_fw-la â—am_fw-la sibi_fw-la rectius_fw-la arrogare_fw-la posse_fw-la quam_fw-la si_fw-la diaconorum_fw-la immo_fw-la laicorum_fw-la unus_fw-la aut_fw-la plures_fw-la tali_fw-la potestate_fw-la nullatenus_fw-la induti_fw-la idem_fw-la ausursint_fw-la the_o sum_n be_v presbyter_n have_v not_o this_o power_n therefore_o they_o can_v give_v it_o sect._n 98._o answ._n if_o the_o argument_n run_v thus_o no_o man_n can_v give_v that_o which_o he_o have_v not_o presbyter_n have_v not_o the_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n therefore_o they_o can_v give_v it_o i_o then_o deny_v the_o minor_a they_o be_v not_o presbyter_n if_o they_o have_v not_o the_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n that_o therefore_o which_o they_o have_v to_o speak_v in_o the_o dissenter_n language_n they_o may_v give_v sect._n 99_o but_o if_o the_o argument_n be_v this_o no_o man_n can_v give_v that_o which_o he_o have_v not_o presbyter_n have_v not_o a_o power_n of_o ordain_v therefore_o they_o can_v give_v a_o power_n of_o ordain_v i_o answer_v as_o follow_v 1._o we_o receive_v not_o our_o office_n by_o the_o gift_n of_o man_n whether_o presbyter_n or_o prelate_n the_o power_n be_v immediate_o from_o christ_n and_o man_n do_v but_o open_v we_o the_o door_n or_o determine_v of_o the_o person_n that_o shall_v from_o christ_n receive_v the_o power_n and_o then_o put_v he_o solemn_o into_o possession_n it_o be_v the_o first_o error_n of_o the_o adversary_n to_o hold_v that_o this_o power_n be_v give_v by_o man_n as_o first_o have_v it_o themselves_o in_o the_o pope_n case_n bellarmine_n himself_o will_v grant_v we_o this_o respon_n ad_fw-la 7_o theolog._n venet._n p._n 246.232_o saepe_fw-la inquit_fw-la jam_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la electionem_fw-la cardinalium_fw-la non_fw-la confer_v potestatem_fw-la sed_fw-la designare_fw-la tantummodo_fw-la personam_fw-la cui_fw-la deus_fw-la potestatem_fw-la tribuit_fw-la and_o yet_o that_o in_o summo_fw-la pontifice_fw-la post_fw-la electionem_fw-la nulla_fw-la alia_fw-la requiritur_fw-la confirmatio_fw-la quia_fw-la statim_fw-la ut_fw-la electus_fw-la est_fw-la suscipit_fw-la administrationem_fw-la ut_fw-la declarat_fw-la nicol._n papa_n can._n in_o nomine_fw-la diâ—_n 23._o pag._n 175._o and_o of_o the_o power_n of_o prince_n the_o dissenter_n will_v grant_v it_o for_o we_o have_v it_o in_o their_o write_n that_o the_o power_n be_v from_o god_n immediate_o though_o the_o people_n may_v elect_v the_o person_n you_o will_v thrust_v out_o all_o prince_n of_o the_o world_n by_o this_o argument_n and_o say_v no_o man_n give_v that_o which_o he_o have_v not_o the_o people_n have_v not_o a_o power_n of_o government_n therefore_o they_o can_v give_v it_o i_o will_v answer_v you_o as_o here_o god_n have_v the_o power_n and_o he_o give_v it_o but_o the_o people_n that_o have_v it_o not_o may_v design_v the_o person_n that_o shall_v receive_v it_o from_o god_n as_o the_o burgess_n of_o a_o corporation_n may_v choose_v a_o major_n or_o bailiff_n to_o receive_v that_o power_n from_o the_o sovereign_n by_o the_o instrumentality_n of_o a_o law_n or_o charter_n which_o they_o have_v not_o themselves_o to_o use_v or_o give_v and_o so_o a_o presbytery_n and_o sometime_o the_o people_n alone_o may_v design_v the_o person_n that_o shall_v receive_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n from_o god_n though_o they_o have_v it_o not_o themselves_o to_o use_v or_o give_v sect._n 100_o resp._n 2._o by_o this_o argument_n and_o its_o supposition_n none_o be_v true_a minister_n that_o be_v ordain_v by_o prelate_n for_o they_o have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o the_o ministry_n to_o give_v but_o only_o to_o use_v no_o ordination_n be_v a_o give_v of_o the_o power_n save_v only_o by_o way_n of_o investiture_n which_o suppose_v a_o title_n and_o right_o before_o and_o be_v not_o of_o absolute_a necessity_n to_o the_o possession_n for_o in_o several_a case_n it_o may_v be_v without_o it_o sect._n 101._o respon_n 3._o a_o man_n may_v instrumental_o give_v or_o deliver_v both_o right_a and_o investiture_n in_o that_o which_o he_o have_v not_o himself_o nor_o ever_o have_v your_o servant_n may_v by_o your_o appointment_n deliver_v a_o lease_n a_o deed_n of_o gift_n a_o key_n or_o twig_n and_o turf_n for_o possession_n of_o house_n and_o land_n though_o he_o never_o have_v house_n or_o land_n or_o possession_n himself_o it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o the_o donor_n have_v it_o that_o send_v he_o sect._n 102._o resp._n 4._o presbyter_n have_v the_o power_n of_o presbyter_n or_o the_o ministerial_a office_n and_o if_o they_o can_v give_v that_o which_o certain_o they_o have_v than_o they_o can_v give_v a_o power_n of_o ordain_v other_o presbyter_n for_o to_o ordain_v other_o be_v no_o more_o than_o they_o do_v themselves_o in_o give_v the_o power_n or_o office_n which_o they_o have_v therefore_o if_o they_o may_v do_v it_o those_o that_o they_o give_v their_o power_n to_o may_v do_v it_o that_o be_v may_v also_o give_v other_o that_o power_n which_o they_o have_v sect._n 103._o but_o as_o to_o our_o case_n in_o hand_n it_o suffice_v that_o we_o prove_v that_o presbyter_n may_v give_v other_o the_o office_n of_o presbyter_n whether_o this_o office_n contain_v a_o power_n of_o ordain_v be_v another_o question_n but_o soon_o dispatch_v if_o this_o be_v grant_v because_o as_o be_v say_v to_o ordain_v be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o invest_v other_o with_o the_o office_n or_o power_n which_o we_o have_v ourselves_o sect._n 104._o resp._n 5._o the_o argument_n make_v more_o against_o the_o prelate_n ordination_n on_o another_o account_n because_o that_o as_o be_v prove_v already_o that_o species_n of_o prelacy_n that_o be_v exercise_v in_o england_n the_o sole_a governor_n of_o a_o hundred_o or_o two_o hundred_o church_n be_v so_o far_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o we_o may_v bold_o conclude_v that_o as_o such_o they_o have_v no_o power_n to_o use_v or_o give_v their_o very_a office_n be_v humane_a and_o destructive_a of_o the_o true_a pastoral_n office_n and_o therefore_o as_o such_o they_o have_v less_o pretence_n of_o divine_a authority_n than_o presbyter_n who_o office_n be_v of_o god_n yet_o do_v i_o not_o make_v their_o ordination_n null_a because_o they_o be_v presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o prelate_n and_o also_o be_v in_o possession_n of_o the_o place_n of_o ordainer_n and_o have_v the_o magistrate_n authority_n sect._n 105._o resp._n 6._o presbytrr_n have_v a_o power_n of_o ordain_v it_o be_v already_o prove_v and_o to_o your_o confirmation_n where_o you_o say_v that_o the_o bishop_n give_v they_o no_o such_o power_n therefore_o they_o have_v it_o not_o i_o answer_v 1._o i_o deny_v the_o consequence_n god_n give_v it_o they_o therefore_o they_o have_v it_o without_o the_o bishop_n gift_n 2._o if_o by_o giving_n you_o mean_v but_o a_o accidental_a causation_n or_o the_o action_n of_o a_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la or_o a_o designation_n of_o the_o person_n that_o shall_v receive_v it_o than_o i_o deny_v the_o antecedent_n the_o prelate_n and_o elector_n design_v the_o person_n and_o also_o invest_v he_o solemn_o in_o the_o office_n which_o contain_v this_o power_n of_o ordination_n which_o you_o deny_v they_o sect._n 106._o obj._n the_o prelate_n express_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o their_o ordination_n ans._n 1._o it_o be_v not_o the_o prelate_n but_o christ_n that_o make_v the_o office_n we_o must_v not_o go_v to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o prelate_n but_o of_o christ_n to_o know_v what_o the_o office_n be_v though_o we_o may_v go_v to_o the_o prelate_n while_o the_o work_n be_v in_o their_o hand_n to_o know_v who_o the_o person_n be_v if_o a_o prelate_n consecrate_v a_o prelate_n and_o yet_o mention_v not_o particular_o the_o work_n that_o be_v pretend_v to_o belong_v to_o a_o prelate_n you_o will_v not_o think_v he_o thereby_o restrain_v or_o disable_v to_o those_o work_n he_o that_o crown_v a_o king_n and_o they_o that_o choose_v he_o though_o they_o name_v not_o the_o work_n of_o his_o office_n and_o power_n do_v thereby_o choose_v he_o to_o all_o those_o work_n that_o belong_v to_o a_o king_n god_n have_v set_v down_o in_o his_o word_n that_o the_o husband_n shall_v be_v the_o head_n or_o governor_n of_o his_o wife_n if_o now_o the_o woman_n shall_v
their_o salvation_n etc._n etc._n do_v as_o certain_o oblige_v we_o to_o particular_a duty_n as_o if_o they_o be_v name_v §_o 25._o object_n that_o can_v be_v for_o a_o general_n command_v of_o do_v good_a to_o all_o oblige_v not_o a_o minister_n any_o more_o than_o another_o man_n but_o it_o oblige_v not_o another_o man_n to_o preach_v administer_v sacrament_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o it_o oblige_v not_o a_o minister_n answ._n to_o the_o major_a i_o answer_v that_o 1._o it_o may_v oblige_v to_o more_o where_o it_o oblige_v not_o more_o as_o to_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o obligation_n 2._o the_o general_a command_n oblige_v several_a man_n to_o several_a act_n according_a to_o their_o several_a ability_n opportunity_n and_o capacity_n if_o all_o be_v require_v to_o improve_v their_o master_n flock_n or_o talent_n yet_o all_o be_v not_o require_v to_o improve_v the_o same_o talent_n because_o they_o have_v not_o the_o same_o but_o one_o have_v riches_n to_o improve_v and_o the_o general_a command_n oblige_v he_o to_o improve_v that_o talon_n and_o another_o have_v strength_n another_o interest_n and_o friend_n another_o wit_n and_o another_o learning_n and_o every_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o improve_v what_o he_o have_v and_o not_o what_o he_o have_v not_o the_o command_n of_o do_v good_a to_o all_o do_v oblige_v a_o physician_n to_o help_v to_o cure_v man_n and_o a_o magistrate_n to_o benefit_v they_o by_o government_n and_o a_o lawyer_n by_o counsel_n for_o their_o estate_n and_o a_o minister_n by_o the_o work_n of_o a_o minister_n for_o their_o salvation_n if_o you_o shall_v say_v that_o this_o general_n command_n do_v bind_v a_o magistrate_n or_o a_o physician_n no_o more_o than_o another_o man_n but_o it_o bind_v not_o another_o man_n to_o do_v good_a by_o rule_v or_o by_o physic_n therefore_o neither_o do_v it_o bind_v they_o will_v not_o the_o fallacy_n be_v obvious_a so_o be_v it_o here_o §_o 26._o it_o be_v prove_v that_o such_o assistant_n ministerial_a work_n may_v be_v perform_v by_o a_o fix_a pastor_n to_o those_o about_o he_o and_o within_o his_o reach_n it_o will_v clear_o follow_v that_o convenient_a mean_n may_v be_v use_v to_o bring_v this_o to_o performance_n and_o help_v the_o church_n to_o the_o actual_a benefit_n of_o such_o assistance_n and_o by_o the_o three_o forementioned_a way_n it_o may_v be_v do_v as_o 1._o if_o the_o pastor_n and_o people_n of_o any_o neighbour_n church_n or_o the_o people_n alone_o where_o there_o be_v no_o church_n do_v invite_v such_o man_n to_o come_v and_o help_v they_o §_o 27._o and_o 2._o the_o neighbour_n pastor_n may_v agree_v together_o for_o the_o persuade_v of_o the_o fit_a man_n among_o they_o to_o undertake_v such_o assistance_n as_o be_v usual_a in_o the_o settle_n of_o lecture_n and_o as_o in_o this_o county_n we_o have_v successful_o for_o above_o these_o two_o year_n use_v the_o help_n of_o four_o itinerant_a lecturer_n that_o have_v take_v their_o several_a circuit_n one_o lord_n day_n in_o four_o which_o be_v every_o lord_n day_n among_o they_o all_o to_o help_v their_o neighbour_n §_o 28._o and_o if_o the_o invitation_n of_o a_o people_n or_o the_o agreement_n of_o pastor_n may_v do_v this_o no_o doubt_n then_o but_o the_o prudent_a government_n of_o a_o magistrate_n may_v do_v it_o and_o he_o may_v appoint_v certain_a pastor_n their_o bound_n and_o circuit_n and_o appoint_v they_o to_o afford_v convenient_a assistance_n to_o the_o pastor_n and_o people_n within_o those_o bound_n and_o thus_o he_o may_v make_v they_o visitor_n of_o the_o church_n and_o country_n about_o they_o in_o which_o visitation_n they_o may_v teach_v and_o do_v other_o ministerial_a office_n by_o consent_n and_o may_v by_o the_o magistrate_n command_v take_v notice_n whether_o the_o church_n be_v due_o constitute_v and_o govern_v and_o may_v acquaint_v the_o magistrate_n how_o thing_n be_v and_o may_v fraternal_o reprove_v the_o negligent_a pastor_n and_o people_n where_o they_o come_v and_o also_o may_v provoke_v they_o to_o reformation_n both_o of_o church-constitution_n and_o church-administrations_a and_o these_o visitor_n may_v give_v notice_n to_o the_o neighbour_n church_n of_o such_o pastor_n as_o they_o find_v unfit_a for_o the_o ministry_n that_o by_o consent_n they_o may_v be_v disow_v by_o the_o rest_n §_o 29._o and_o though_o one_o pastor_n have_v not_o of_o himself_o as_o a_o pastor_n so_o much_o power_n over_o any_o of_o his_o brethren_n as_o to_o require_v he_o to_o come_v to_o he_o to_o give_v he_o a_o account_n of_o his_o way_n yet_o 1._o the_o associated_n pastor_n may_v desire_v he_o to_o appear_v among_o they_o to_o give_v they_o satisfaction_n when_o there_o be_v matter_n of_o offence_n for_o one_o may_v better_v travail_n to_o many_o than_o many_o to_o one_o and_o 2._o the_o magistrate_n may_v lawful_o command_v minister_n to_o appear_v before_o such_o pastor_n as_o he_o have_v appoint_v to_o be_v visitor_n and_o than_o it_o will_v be_v their_o duty_n in_o obedience_n to_o the_o magistrate_n command_v §_o 30._o yet_o magistrate_n must_v take_v heed_n that_o they_o put_v not_o the_o sword_n into_o the_o hand_n of_o minister_n nor_o enable_v they_o with_o coercive_a power_n by_o touch_v man_n body_n or_o estate_n we_o do_v not_o only_o forbear_v to_o claim_v such_o a_o power_n but_o we_o disclaim_v it_o yea_o and_o humble_o and_o earnest_o beseech_v the_o prince_n and_o senate_n of_o christian_a commonwealth_n that_o they_o will_v keep_v the_o sword_n in_o their_o own_o hand_n and_o not_o put_v it_o into_o the_o hand_n of_o any_o minister_n and_o then_o we_o can_v better_o bear_v the_o claim_n and_o usurpation_n not_o only_o of_o exorbitant_a or_o transcendent_a prelate_n but_o of_o the_o pope_n himself_o let_v they_o come_v unarm_v and_o have_v no_o weapon_n but_o spiritual_a the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o then_o we_o shall_v less_o fear_v they_o the_o division_n and_o tyranny_n &_o bloodshed_n through_o the_o church_n have_v be_v by_o trust_v coercive_a magisterial_a power_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n though_o i_o confess_v i_o think_v it_o not_o a_o thing_n unlawful_a in_o itself_o for_o a_o minister_n to_o be_v a_o magistrate_n also_o yet_o i_o think_v that_o nothing_o but_o necessity_n can_v warrant_v it_o and_o so_o much_o as_o hinder_v he_o from_o the_o work_n of_o his_o call_n which_o require_v a_o whole_a man_n without_o this_o necessity_n be_v utter_o unlawful_a be_v there_o a_o country_n that_o have_v no_o other_o person_n tolerable_o fit_a i_o doubt_v not_o but_o the_o same_o man_n that_o be_v a_o minister_n or_o pastor_n may_v be_v a_o justice_n of_o peace_n parliament_n man_n or_o a_o prince_n but_o while_o there_o be_v other_o that_o be_v capable_a of_o bear_v these_o burden_n he_o be_v not_o worthy_a to_o be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n that_o will_v wish_v the_o least_o of_o they_o upon_o his_o shoulder_n either_o magistracy_n or_o ministry_n be_v enough_o for_o one_o have_v the_o english_a prelate_n be_v arm_v with_o none_o but_o spiritual_a weapon_n they_o have_v never_o appear_v so_o terrible_a or_o so_o odious_a §_o 31._o it_o seem_v a_o course_n that_o suit_v with_o the_o state_n of_o the_o present_a church_n among_o we_o to_o have_v in_o every_o county_n three_o or_o four_o such_o able_a faithful_a pastor_n to_o be_v by_o the_o magistrate_n make_v visitor_n of_o the_o rest_n not_o give_v they_o any_o power_n of_o meddle_v with_o man_n body_n or_o estate_n but_o join_v with_o they_o a_o magistrate_n as_o a_o justice_n or_o commissioner_n that_o one_o may_v persuade_v and_o the_o other_o constrain_v as_o far_o as_o the_o sovereign_a power_n shall_v think_v fit_a this_o be_v not_o to_o set_v up_o any_o new_a office_n or_o the_o least_o part_n of_o a_o office_n in_o the_o church_n as_o it_o be_v mere_o accidental_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o physician_n whether_o he_o be_v tie_v to_o a_o city_n or_o to_o a_o hospital_n or_o to_o a_o county_n or_o to_o no_o place_n but_o practice_n as_o he_o find_v opportunity_n these_o be_v but_o the_o various_a mode_n of_o use_v the_o same_o tyrannical_o office_n and_o work_n so_o may_v we_o true_o say_v of_o the_o ministry_n §_o 32._o yet_o be_v there_o no_o such_o necessity_n of_o this_o appointment_n of_o visitor_n or_o superintendent_o or_o assistant_n by_o the_o magistrate_n or_o by_o agreement_n of_o minister_n or_o any_o such_o course_n as_o if_o the_o be_v or_o the_o welfare_n of_o the_o church_n be_v lay_v upon_o it_o for_o without_o any_o such_o election_n or_o appointment_n the_o grace_n and_o gift_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n will_v show_v themselves_o and_o be_v communicative_a for_o the_o edification_n of_o the_o church_n we_o see_v by_o common_a experience_n that_o where_o no_o one_o man_n
and_o we_o have_v to_o dispute_v of_o it_o be_v ecclesiastical_a government_n by_o minister_n and_o not_o secular_a by_o magistrate_n that_o be_v our_o controversy_n it_o be_v of_o the_o power_n leave_v by_o christ_n to_o pastor_n and_o not_o to_o prince_n §_o 25._o object_n but_o at_o least_o those_o shall_v be_v excommunicate_v that_o deny_v obedience_n to_o their_o bishop_n that_o be_v a_o power_n that_o be_v leave_v in_o the_o bishop_n themselves_o whether_o the_o magistrate_n consent_n or_o not_o answ._n 1._o excommunication_n be_v a_o sentence_n that_o shall_v fall_v on_o none_o but_o for_o such_o gross_a and_o heinous_a sin_n if_o not_o also_o obstinacy_n and_o impenitency_n in_o they_o as_o be_v mention_v in_o scripture_n use_v it_o in_o case_n of_o controversy_n and_o tolerable_a difference_n be_v but_o a_o tear_n and_o divide_v the_o church_n 2._o we_o take_v it_o not_o for_o our_o duty_n to_o excommunicate_v you_o because_o you_o be_v for_o diocesan_n prelacy_n therefore_o you_o shall_v not_o take_v it_o for_o you_o to_o excommunicate_v other_o because_o they_o be_v against_o it_o for_o 3._o if_o your_o species_n of_o episcopacy_n be_v such_o as_o i_o have_v prove_v it_o you_o have_v more_o need_n to_o repent_v and_o amend_v and_o ask_v forgiveness_n of_o god_n and_o man_n then_o to_o excommunicate_v they_o that_o be_v not_o of_o your_o opinion_n and_o for_o your_o sin_n 4._o but_o if_o you_o take_v this_o to_o be_v your_o duty_n who_o have_v hinder_v you_o from_o it_o these_o twelve_o year_n you_o have_v liberty_n for_o aught_o i_o know_v to_o have_v discharge_v your_o conscience_n and_o to_o have_v excommunicate_v we_o all_o 5._o but_o you_o may_v so_o easy_o see_v what_o be_v like_a to_o come_v of_o it_o that_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n that_o you_o forbear_v if_o such_o a_o ministry_n and_o such_o a_o people_n as_o be_v now_o your_o adherent_n who_o description_n i_o forbear_v shall_v execute_v your_o sentence_n and_o cast_v we_o and_o our_o adherent_n 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