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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A92172	A briefe narration of some church courses held in opinion and practise in the churches lately erected in New England. Collected out of sundry of their own printed papers and manuscripts with other good intelligences. Together with some short hints (given by the way) of their correspondence with the like tenents and practises of the separatists churches. And some short animadversions upon some principall passages for the benefit of the vulgar reader. Presented to publike view for the good of the church of God by W. R.	Rathband, William, d. 1695.	1644 (1644)	Wing R298; Thomason E36_11; ESTC R21802	84,830	61

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the_o lord_n in_o our_o particular_a calling_n shun_v idleness_n as_o the_o bane_n of_o any_o state_n nor_o will_v we_o deal_v hardly_o or_o oppress_o with_o any_o 9_o we_o will_v also_o to_o our_o best_a ability_n teach_v our_o child_n and_o servant_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o his_o will_n that_o they_o may_v serve_v he_o also_o o._n h._n 11._o this_o covenant_n thus_o distinguish_v from_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n they_o hold_v to_o be_v that_o covenant_n which_o be_v sequuntur_fw-la be_v here_o be_v a_o piece_n or_o two_o of_o such_o divinity_n as_o i_o never_o hear_v or_o read_v before_o but_o uno_fw-la absurdo_fw-la dato_fw-la mille_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la seal_v by_o the_o sacrament_n and_o for_o the_o seal_n and_o ratify_v of_o which_o the_o sacrament_n be_v principal_o ordain_v of_o god_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v administer_v only_o to_o such_o as_o be_v first_o enter_v into_o this_o covenant_n as_o seal_n thereof_o apol._n p._n 15_o 19_o 31._o ans_fw-fr 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the_o collectour_n that_o so_o foul_a a_o contradiction_n shall_v be_v hold_v but_o if_o there_o be_v any_o fault_n it_o must_v be_v none_o but_o their_o own_o either_o in_o hold_v and_o practise_v thing_n in_o themselves_o so_o contradictory_n or_o else_o in_o report_v to_o we_o such_o thing_n as_o they_o neither_o hold_v nor_o practice_v but_o this_o contradiction_n will_v yet_o appear_v more_o foul_a when_o we_o consider_v what_o will_v after_o follow_v that_o they_o hold_v it_o not_o only_o lawful_a to_o do_v it_o without_o their_o consent_n but_o also_o sometime_o necessary_a to_o do_v it_o against_o their_o consent_n of_o which_o see_v chap._n 15._o any_o small_a number_n almost_o of_o person_n so_o fit_v as_o before_o they_o hold_v may_v lawful_o unite_v themselves_o into_o a_o church_n body_n by_o enter_v into_o the_o church_n covenant_n aforesaid_a and_o so_o may_v constitute_v themselves_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n without_o any_o authoritative_a consent_n of_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n suppose_v there_o be_v one_o or_o of_o the_o neighbour_a church_n or_o their_o minister_n r.m._n to_o w.r._n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 43._o robin_n justif_n p._n 181_o 182._o 2._o yet_o a_o truth_n a_o the_o law_n doubtless_o be_v good_a as_o from_o the_o magistrate_n but_o how_o do_v this_o agree_v with_o that_o opinion_n which_o too_o many_o of_o they_o among_o we_o that_o run_v the_o same_o church-course_n with_o these_o brethren_n hold_v that_o the_o magistrate_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o the_o first_o table_n unless_o the_o public_a peace_n be_v break_v he_o be_v to_o force_v no_o man_n against_o his_o conscience_n too_o or_o fro_o but_o leave_v every_o man_n to_o follow_v his_o own_o light_n and_o religion_n also_o as_o it_o be_v a_o agreement_n of_o the_o church_n and_o minister_n i_o the_o rather_o like_o it_o because_o it_o seem_v to_o amount_v to_o little_o less_o in_o substance_n then_o a_o compound_n presbytery_n set_v up_o 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the_o first_o erection_n of_o a_o church_n that_o each_o shall_v try_v and_o know_v other_o spirit_n why_o not_o also_o after_o at_o the_o admission_n of_o every_o member_n he_o to_o try_v and_o know_v their_o spirit_n as_o well_o as_o they_o he_o person_n intend_v to_o enter_v into_o church_n estate_n do_v before_o hand_n often_o meet_v private_o among_o themselves_o to_o be_v inward_o acquaint_v with_o each_o other_o spirit_n by_o confer_v pray_v together_o and_o mutual_o examine_v each_o other_o until_o they_o have_v approve_v themselves_o to_o one_o another_o conscience_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n which_o when_o they_o have_v thorough_o do_v in_o private_a than_o they_o agree_v together_o to_o enter_v into_o a_o church_n estate_n r.m._n to_o w.r._n ‑_o h.w._n to_o mr_n b._n 4._o which_o before_o they_o do_v notice_n be_v give_v thereof_o to_o the_o magistrate_n and_o neighbour_a church_n that_o so_o such_o as_o please_v may_v be_v present_a at_o the_o time_n and_o place_n thereunto_o appoint_v r.m._n to_o w.r._n ‑_o h.w._n to_o mr_n b._n ‑_o j.w._n to_o t.s._n 5._o the_o number_n wherewith_o they_o usual_o begin_v at_o the_o first_o constitution_n of_o every_o church_n be_v about_o 7.8_o or_o 9_o ibid._n 6._o notice_n be_v give_v the_o magistrate_n and_o church_n send_v their_o admission_n their_o here_o than_o church_n use_v messenger_n or_o deputy_n to_o represent_v themselves_o and_o to_o act_v in_o their_o room_n why_o not_o in_o a_o synod_n as_o well_o and_o if_o they_o may_v trust_v their_o power_n with_o their_o messenger_n for_o approve_v or_o disapprove_v whole_a church_n much_o more_o of_o particular_a member_n at_o their_o admission_n messenger_n or_o deputy_n to_o see_v how_o thing_n be_v carry_v and_o to_o give_v they_o advice_n direction_n approbation_n or_o disapprobation_n as_o they_o shall_v see_v cause_n ibid._n 7._o the_o day_n appoint_v be_v keep_v with_o fast_v and_o prayer_n and_o sometime_o if_o not_o always_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n which_o be_v perform_v by_o some_o of_o the_o person_n that_o now_o come_v to_o be_v combine_v into_o this_o church-societie_n in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o day_n each_o of_o those_o person_n now_o to_o be_v church_v if_o i_o may_v so_o say_v make_v public_a profession_n of_o his_o faith_n thereby_o show_v his_o knowledge_n and_o opinion_n in_o the_o ground_n and_o principle_n of_o religion_n and_o declare_v from_o point_n to_o point_v the_o work_n of_o god_n upon_o his_o soul_n in_o his_o conversion_n and_o all_o this_o in_o a_o extemporarie_a at_o least_o conceive_v speech_n i._n e._n not_o in_o any_o set_a form_n ibid._n 8._o which_o when_o the_o messenger_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o church_n have_v hear_v and_o consider_v if_o they_o be_v unsatisfied_a or_o any_o slander_n by_o they_o make_v their_o objection_n or_o propound_v further_a question_n as_o they_o think_v

fit_a until_o they_o be_v charity_n be_v it_o be_v a_o hard_a task_n to_o satisfy_v all_o comer_n touch_v these_o thing_n question_v and_o object_v what_o they_o please_v and_o hard_a for_o a_o man_n to_o be_v stay_v perhaps_o for_o some_o difference_n about_o church_n discipline_n or_o suppose_v some_o objection_n be_v make_v against_o his_o life_n it_o must_v here_o be_v present_o and_o open_o declare_v and_o scan_v before_o all_o the_o country_n this_o be_v little_a wisdom_n less_o charity_n satisfy_v if_o it_o may_v be_v ibid._n 9_o if_o in_o the_o end_n the_o say_a messenger_n be_v not_o satisfy_v than_o they_o or_o so_o many_o of_o they_o as_o concern_v who_o they_o be_v not_o satisfy_v either_o in_o point_n of_o knowledge_n or_o grace_n be_v forbid_v to_o enter_v into_o church_n estate_n and_o so_o remain_v still_o as_o before_z out_o of_o the_o pale_a of_o the_o church_n ibid._n 10._o if_o at_o length_n they_o be_v full_o satisfy_v and_o all_o doubt_n clear_v than_o the_o say_a person_n proceed_v to_o enter_v into_o church-covenant_n which_o be_v write_v one_o of_o they_o read_v and_o all_o of_o they_o subscribe_v it_o and_o so_o they_o be_v become_v a_o true_a hatch_v true_a if_o so_o much_o time_n and_o so_o many_o encumstance_n be_v needful_a to_o join_v 7._o or_o 8._o together_o into_o one_o church_n how_o much_o time_n will_v be_v requisite_a to_o join_v 3000._o together_o but_o our_o brethren_n will_v acknowledge_v the_o apostle_n go_v a_o short_a way_n to_o work_v discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 29_o 30._o the_o reason_n whereof_o they_o render_v because_o the_o church_n be_v not_o then_o subject_a to_o so_o many_o hypocrite_n which_o be_v more_o than_o any_o man_n know_v when_o christ_n say_v many_o be_v call_v few_o choose_v many_o seek_v but_o few_o sinde_n beside_o this_o course_n be_v use_v by_o our_o brethren_n not_o to_o ordinary_a christian_n only_o but_o to_o the_o most_o godly_a and_o best_a approve_v i_o believe_v therefore_o it_o be_v rather_o because_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v give_v they_o no_o such_o direction_n nor_o be_v this_o manner_n of_o church_n constitution_n then_o hatch_v constitute_v visible_a church_n as_o they_o say_v ibid._n 11._o which_o be_v do_v the_o say_a messenger_n of_o the_o other_o church_n give_v they_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o fellowship_n and_o own_v they_o for_o a_o sister_n church_n and_o so_o return_v back_o do_v make_v report_n to_o the_o church_n that_o send_v they_o of_o all_o thing_n do_v and_o declare_v to_o they_o that_o they_o be_v to_o account_v of_o they_o as_o of_o a_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n ibid._n chap._n vi_o of_o church-power_n or_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n the_o first_o subject_n in_o who_o it_o reside_v and_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o in_o general_n 1._o they_o hold_v that_o every_o such_o company_n as_o aforesaid_a though_o never_o so_o small_a consist_v of_o private_a person_n only_a i.e._n such_o as_o be_v in_o no_o church-office_n and_o perhaps_o all_o illiterate_a too_o yet_o be_v right_o and_o immediate_o entitle_v to_o all_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o invest_v with_o all_o ecclesiastical_a they_o ecclesiastical_a who_o will_v not_o long_o to_o be_v soon_o church_v in_o this_o way_n see_v thereby_o immediate_o they_o may_v be_v endue_v with_o so_o vast_a a_o power_n this_o be_v a_o sweet_a morsel_n no_o marvel_n if_o people_n tooth_n water_n for_o it_o but_o where_o or_o when_o do_v god_n so_o grant_v all_o this_o power_n over_o to_o the_o people_n that_o yet_o he_o except_v the_o sacrament_n and_o they_o only_o out_o of_o the_o charter_n sure_o either_o he_o give_v they_o all_o or_o none_o the_o necessity_n of_o which_o consequence_n some_o brownist_n perceive_v therefore_o of_o late_a here_o in_o london_n have_v claim_v and_o contend_v for_o they_o also_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n in_o our_o saviour_n commission_n be_v knit_v together_o go_v preach_v and_o baptise_v and_o both_o 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