Selected quad for the lemma: power_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
power_n	church_n	particular_a	synod_n	5,355	5	10.3233	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A86003	Male audis or An answer to Mr. Coleman his Malè dicis. Wherein the repugnancy of his Erastian doctrine to the word of God, to the solemne League and Covenant, and to the ordinances of Parliament: also his contradictions, tergiversations, heterodoxies, calumnies, and perverting of testimonies, are made more apparent then formerly. Together with some animadversions upon Master Hussey his Plea for Christian magistracy: shewing, that in divers of the afore mentioned particulars he hath miscarried as much, and in some particulars more then Mr Coleman. / By George Gillespie, minister at Edinbrugh. Published by authority.	Gillespie, George, 1613-1648.	1646 (1646)	Wing G754; Thomason E317_16; ESTC R200545	44,904	65

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and_o read_v in_o the_o congregation_n minister_a the_o lord_n supper_n visit_v the_o sick_a and_o particular_a family_n five_o he_o hold_v pag._n 20._o that_o a_o heathen_a magistrate_n be_v unlawful_a and_o for_o his_o government_n if_o sin_n be_v lawful_a it_o be_v lawful_a a_o gross_a heterodoxy_n the_o apostle_n exhort_v to_o be_v subject_a even_o to_o heathen_a magistrate_n rom._n 13._o for_o there_o be_v no_o other_o at_o that_o time_n and_o to_o pray_v for_o they_o 1_o tim._n 2._o so_o that_o by_o mr._n hu●sseys_n divinity_n the_o apostle_n will_v have_v man_n to_o be_v subject_n untoa_o and_o to_o pray_v for_o a_o unlawful_a government_n it_o be_v a_o a_o baptisticall_a tenent_n that_o a_o heathen_a magistrate_n be_v not_o from_o god_n which_o gerhard_n de_fw-fr magistratu_fw-la position_n pag._n 498._o 499._o full_o confute_v six_o he_o say_v of_o christ_n pag._n 40._o he_o do_v nothing_o as_o mediator_n which_o he_o do_v not_o as_o god_n or_o as_o man_n it_o be_v a_o 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great_a than_o he_o joh._n 14._o 28._o and_o as_o the_o head_n of_o the_o man_n be_v christ_n so_o the_o head_n of_o christ_n be_v god_n 1_o cor._n 11._o 3._o if_o therefore_o it_o can_v be_v say_v of_o christ_n as_o he_o be_v the_o second_o person_n in_o the_o trinity_n that_o his_o father_n be_v not_o great_a than_o he_o and_o that_o he_o be_v not_o subordinate_a to_o god_n as_o his_o head_n then_o farewell_o anti-socinianism_n i_o dare_v bold_o say_v it_o be_v impossible_a to_o confute_v the_o socinian_o or_o to_o assert_v the_o eternal_a godhead_n of_o jesus_n christ_n except_o somewhat_o be_v affirm_v of_o he_o as_o the_o second_o person_n of_o the_o trinity_n which_o must_v be_v deny_v of_o he_o as_o he_o be_v mediator_n and_o something_o be_v deny_v of_o he_o as_o he_o be_v the_o second_o person_n in_o the_o trinity_n which_o must_v be_v affirm_v of_o he_o as_o he_o be_v mediator_n eight_o he_o say_v pag._n 36._o that_o christ_n by_o his_o mediation_n have_v obtain_v from_o the_o father_n that_o he_o shall_v not_o judge_v any_o man_n according_a to_o rigor_n but_o as_o they_o be_v in_o or_o out_o of_o christ_n all_o defer_v of_o judgement_n from_o the_o wicked_a be_v in_o and_o for_o christ_n which_o otherwise_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n will_v not_o allow_v then_o christ_n do_v thus_o far_o make_v satisfaction_n to_o the_o justice_n of_o god_n in_o the_o behalf_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o die_v for_o they_o that_o judgement_n may_v be_v defer_v from_o they_o and_o thus_o far_o perform_v act_n of_o mediation_n for_o the_o savage_n and_o mahometan_n and_o for_o they_o that_o never_o hear_v the_o gospel_n that_o by_o such_o mediation_n he_o have_v obtain_v of_o the_o father_n that_o they_o shall_v be_v judge_v not_o according_a to_o rigour_n but_o by_o the_o gospel_n which_o intimate_v that_o christ_n have_v take_v away_o all_o their_o sin_n against_o the_o law_n so_o that_o all_o man_n shall_v now_o go_v upon_o a_o new_a score_n and_o none_o shall_v be_v condemn_v or_o judge_v by_o the_o law_n but_o by_o the_o gospel_n only_o for_o if_o christ_n have_v not_o take_v away_o their_o sin_n against_o the_o law_n the_o justice_n of_o god_n will_v ●udge_v they_o according_a to_o the_o rigour_n of_o the_o law_n must_v not_o every_o jot_n of_o the_o law_n be_v fulfil_v and_o be_v there_o not_o a_o necessity_n that_o every_o one_o underlye_o the_o cusre_a and_o rigour_n of_o the_o law_n o●_z el●e_n that_o the_o mediator_n have_v underly_v it_o for_o they_o nine_o he_o propound_v this_o quere_n pag._n 44._o whether_o minister_n have_v any_o right_n to_o those_o privilege_n which_o be_v give_v to_o the_o church_n more_o than_o another_o christian_n and_o he_o hold_v the_o negative_a now_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v privilege_n give_v to_o the_o church_n that_o be_v for_o the_o church_n good_a for_o all_o thing_n be_v you_o say_v the_o apostle_n whether_o paul_n or_o apollo_n etc._n etc._n c._n 1_o cor._n 3._o 21_o 22._o therefore_o by_o mr._n husssey_n divinity_n any_o other_o christian_n have_v as_o much_o right_a to_o administer_v word_n sacrament_n key_n as_o the_o minister_n come_v on_o now_o to_o mr._n coleman_n error_n in_o divinity_n not_o to_o repeat_v what_o be_v express_v in_o my_o nihil_fw-la respondes_fw-la but_o to_o take_v off_o the_o maledicis_fw-la in_o the_o main_a point_n the_o ten_o heterodoxy_n shall_v therefore_o be_v this_o that_o whatsoever_o be_v give_v to_o christ_n he_o have_v it_o not_o as_o the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n into_o this_o ditch_n do_v mr._n coleman_n first_o fall_n and_o then_o mr._n hussey_n pag._n 25._o after_o he_o i_o say_v this_o tenent_n lead_v to_o a_o blasphemous_a heresy_n for_o the_o better_a understanding_n whereof_o let_v it_o be_v remember_v what_o i_o do_v premise_v in_o my_o nihil_fw-la respondes_fw-la pag._n 11._o in_o reply_n to_o his_o proposition_n that_o which_o be_v give_v to_o christ_n he_o have_v it_o not_o as_o god_n this_o say_v i_o be_v in_o opposition_n to_o what_o i_o say_v pag._n 45._o concerning_o the_o headship_n and_o dignity_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o natural_a son_n of_o god_n the_o image_n of_o the_o inu●sible_a god_n colossian_n 1._o 15._o and_o pag._n 43._o of_o the_o dominion_n of_o christ_n as_o he_o be_v the_o eternal_a son_n of_o god_n this_o be_v premise_v etc._n etc._n mr._n coleman_n without_o take_v the_o least_o notice_n of_o that_o which_o i_o do_v purposely_o and_o plain_o premise_v begin_v to_o speak_v of_o god_n essential_o and_o that_o if_o something_o ma●_n be_v give_v to_o christ_n as_o god_n than_o something_o may_v be_v give_v to_o god_n and_o then_o god_n be_v not_o absolute_o perfect_a etc._o etc._o maledicis_fw-la pag._n 13._o 14._o thus_o he_o

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