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power_n	church_n	order_n	presbyter_n	3,469	5	9.9598	5	false

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A70969	The reasons presented by the Dissenting Brethren against certain propositions concerning presbyteriall government and the proofs of them voted by the Assembly of Divines, sitting by authority of Parliament, at Westminster : together with the Answer of the Assembly of Divines to those reasons of dissent.	Westminster Assembly; Westminster Assembly (1643-1652). Answer of the Assembly of Divines to the reasons of the Dissenting Brethren.; Westminster Assembly (1643-1652). Papers given in to the Honorable Committee of Lords and Commons.; Westminster Assembly (1643-1652). Dissenting Brethren. Papers and answers of the Dissenting Brethren.	1648 (1648)	Wing R581; Wing P295; ESTC R5818	4,476	12

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