meletiâ—ns_n be_v schismatic_n and_o 〈◊〉_d thâ—se_a 〈◊〉_d by_o meletius_n be_v receive_v into_o place_n where_o othâ—â—…_n 〈…〉_o though_o the_o paulianist_n and_o 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o be_v rebaptised_a 〈◊〉_d ordain_v by_o the_o 19_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a 〈…〉_o those_o ordain_o by_o the_o novaâ—â—â—…ns_n 8._o novaâ—â—â—…ns_n 〈…〉_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n c._n 8._o when_o reconcile_v to_o the_o church_n be_v to_o continue_v in_o the_o same_o station_n which_o they_o enjoy_v before_o except_a catholic_n be_v in_o possession_n by_o the_o 8_o caâ—â—…_n of_o the_o very_a same_o council_n from_o which_o instance_n it_o be_v plain_a tâ—â—â—…_n according_a 〈◊〉_d the_o sense_n of_o those_o father_n though_o schismatical_a 〈…〉_o â—â—â—…ieties_n be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o whâ—â—…y_a dâ—uâ—st_n they_o 〈◊〉_d their_o character_n so_o as_o to_o make_v they_o no_o long_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d call_v power_n as_o this_o vindicator_n will_v insinuate_v nay_o the_o severe_a enemy_n to_o heretical_a ordinationâ—_n never_n go_v so_o far_o as_o our_o aâ—â—â—or_n as_o appear_v from_o what_o they_o declare_v in_o a_o â—â—â—â—â—…lel_a case_n viz._n that_o of_o baptism_n st._n cyprian_n himself_o own_v the_o practice_n in_o his_o day_n to_o admit_v reconcile_v heretic_n carth._n vid._n cypr._n ad_fw-la quinteâ—…_n steph._n ap_fw-mi cyp._n ad_fw-la pomp._n cp_n 74._o crescent_n ap_fw-mi conc._n carthag_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ap_fw-mi eus_n h._n e._n l._n 7._o c._n 7._o ec._n he_o l._n 1._o c._n 9_o apos_n c._n 67._o con._n nic._n can._n 19_o etc._n etc._n ap._n cypr._n ed._n ox._n ep._n lxxv_o novatus_n à _fw-fr thâ—…umagade_n ap_fw-mi con._n carth._n as_o penitent_n only_a with_o imposition_n of_o hand_n if_o at_o first_o they_o be_v baptise_a by_o the_o orthodox_n clergy_n and_o so_o heraclas_n of_o alexandria_n take_v care_n that_o such_o person_n shall_v renounce_v their_o heresy_n not_o at_o all_o require_v they_o to_o be_v rebaptise_v and_o in_o like_a manner_n miletius_n retain_v his_o character_n tho_o debar_v the_o exercise_n of_o his_o function_n by_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o nicene_n council_n as_o appear_v by_o their_o synodical_a epistle_n in_o socrates_n so_o that_o here_o the_o case_n of_o baptism_n and_o ordination_n run_v parallel_v neither_o be_v make_v void_a by_o mere_a heresy_n or_o schism_n and_o according_o we_o find_v they_o put_v together_o in_o several_a ancient_a canon_n and_o in_o firmilianus_n epistle_n to_o st._n cyprian_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v true_a the_o case_n be_v otherwise_o with_o those_o baptise_a or_o ordain_v by_o heretic_n or_o schismatic_n they_o be_v to_o be_v reordain_v and_o rebaptised_a according_a to_o the_o sentiment_n of_o those_o african_a father_n how_o consistent_o with_o their_o own_o practice_n let_v other_o judge_n for_o if_o heretic_n or_o schismatic_n do_v retain_v their_o character_n while_o they_o be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n as_o those_o father_n seem_v to_o allow_v i_o can_v see_v no_o reason_n why_o it_o shall_v be_v total_o out_o of_o their_o power_n to_o confer_v the_o like_a upon_o other_o person_n for_o if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o they_o lose_v their_o character_n by_o depart_v from_o the_o church_n how_o they_o can_v obtain_v it_o again_o without_o a_o new_a ordination_n be_v pass_v my_o understanding_n and_o therefore_o why_o miletius_n himself_o shall_v retain_v his_o character_n sup_v socr._n ubi_fw-la sup_v and_o yet_o those_o ordain_v by_o he_o be_v confirm_v or_o settle_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o by_o those_o word_n be_v real_o mean_v a_o second_o ordination_n i_o must_v learn_v from_o other_o 18._o vid._n iren._n adv_o haer._n l._n 1._o c._n 18._o as_o for_o the_o grosser_n heretic_n that_o live_v before_o the_o time_n of_o st._n cyprian_n and_o who_o several_a manner_n of_o baptise_v be_v so_o monstrous_a and_o wicked_a i_o can_v wonder_v if_o the_o ancient_n think_v fit_a to_o baptise_v they_o over_o again_o their_o former_a baptism_n want_v the_o necessary_a word_n and_o be_v consequent_o void_a in_o the_o very_a performance_n and_o therefore_o when_o tertullian_n and_o other_o father_n reject_v their_o baptism_n i_o be_o of_o opinion_n it_o make_v little_a for_o st._n cyprian_n cause_n so_o that_o notwithstanding_o the_o testimony_n produce_v by_o a_o learned_a author_n 15._o â—…aun_n ep._n 15._o agrippinus_n may_v be_v the_o first_o introducer_n of_o that_o practice_n as_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n testify_v juâ—…aian_n vincen._n lirin_fw-mi com._n c._n 9_o p._n 21._o edit_fw-la cantab._n 1687._o ap._n cyp._n ut_fw-la supra_fw-la vid._n &_o cyp._n ipsum_fw-la in_o ep._n ad_fw-la juâ—…aian_n and_o this_o i_o be_o the_o rather_o induce_v to_o believe_v be_v cause_n pope_n stephen_n then_o condemn_v it_o as_o a_o novel_a custom_n and_o firmilianus_n and_o other_o african_n seem_v to_o own_o at_o least_o can_v not_o deny_v that_o it_o be_v so_o as_o appear_v by_o the_o answer_n they_o make_v to_o that_o objection_n so_o that_o by_o the_o most_o constant_a usage_n of_o the_o church_n in_o those_o first_o age_n the_o baptism_n of_o heretic_n be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v in_o gross_a neither_o be_v it_o universal_o to_o be_v reject_v upon_o st._n cyprian_n principle_n there_o be_v a_o difference_n to_o be_v make_v betwixt_o those_o heretic_n who_o do_v not_o real_o baptise_v at_o all_o and_o those_o that_o do_v and_o so_o you_o find_v both_o the_o first_o and_o second_o council_n of_o arles_n admit_v such_o as_o be_v baptise_a in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n 4._o 1._o con._n arcl._n c._n 8._o 2._o con._n arcl._n c._n 16._o 17._o optat._n 1._o 4._o and_o rebaptise_v only_o those_o that_o do_v not_o believe_v in_o the_o trinity_n nor_o consequent_o use_v the_o essential_a form_n and_o so_o optatus_n declare_v quodcunque_fw-la in_o trinitate_fw-la factum_fw-la est_fw-la bene_fw-la factum_fw-la est_fw-la the_o like_a distinction_n i_o reckon_v be_v to_o be_v make_v concern_v ordination_n viz._n those_o who_o derive_v their_o order_n only_o from_o heretic_n and_o consequently_n never_o have_v any_o succession_n from_o the_o church_n be_v just_o to_o be_v repute_v as_o unordain_v but_o those_o ordain_v by_o heretic_n who_o have_v their_o ordination_n original_o from_o the_o church_n and_o do_v not_o omit_v any_o thing_n necessary_a to_o the_o confer_v of_o order_n have_v no_o occasion_n for_o reordination_n and_o to_o let_v pass_v the_o distinction_n betwixt_o the_o novatian_o and_o cataphrygae_n make_v by_o the_o nicene_n father_n optatus_n and_o st._n austin_n have_v both_o of_o they_o settle_v the_o point_n in_o their_o controversy_n with_o the_o donatist_n 1687_o donatist_n vinc._n lirin_fw-mi c._n 11._o p._n 26._o ed._n cant._n 1687_o who_o pretend_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o african_a council_n for_o rebaptise_v the_o catholic_n thus_o 1599_o thus_o in_o hoc_fw-la sacramento_n baptismatis_fw-la celebrando_fw-la tres_fw-la esse_fw-la species_n constat_fw-la etc._n etc._n optat._n l._n 5._o p._n 143._o edit_fw-la com._n 1599_o optatus_n in_o celebrate_v the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n there_o be_v three_o kind_n of_o thing_n which_o you_o can_v neither_o increase_v nor_o diminish_v nor_o pretermit_v the_o one_a be_v the_o trinity_n the_o second_o in_o he_o that_o believe_v the_o 3d._n in_o he_o that_o do_v the_o office_n but_o they_o be_v not_o all_o to_o be_v esteem_v of_o equal_a moment_n for_o i_o look_v upon_o two_o of_o they_o to_o be_v necessary_a and_o one_o as_o if_o it_o be_v necessary_a the_o trinity_n obtain_v the_o principal_a place_n the_o faith_n of_o he_o that_o believe_v come_v next_o after_o this_o and_o the_o person_n of_o he_o that_o minister_n be_v nigh_o but_o can_v be_v of_o the_o same_o authority_n the_o two_o former_a remain_v always_o unalterable_a and_o fix_v for_o the_o trinity_n be_v always_o the_o same_o and_o the_o faith_n in_o several_a person_n be_v but_o one_o both_o always_o retain_v their_o proper_a efficacy_n but_o the_o person_n of_o he_o that_o minister_n be_v know_v that_o it_o can_v be_v equal_a to_o the_o two_o former_a sort_n for_o this_o reason_n because_o it_o alone_o appear_v to_o be_v alterable_a etc._n etc._n and_o 142._o and_o ibid._n p._n 141_o 142._o a_o little_a before_o he_o acquaint_v we_o with_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n at_o that_o time_n as_o oft_o as_o any_o one_o baptise_a by_o you_o i._n e._n the_o donatist_n desire_v to_o come_v over_o to_o we_o we_o receive_v he_o according_a to_o the_o example_n of_o our_o master_n with_o all_o simplicity_n for_o far_o be_v it_o from_o we_o that_o we_o shall_v call_v he_o back_o again_o to_o the_o font_n who_o be_v already_o wash_v far_o be_v it_o from_o we_o that_o we_o shall_v repeat_v that_o which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v but_o once_o or_o double_a that_o which_o be_v but_o one_o for_o so_o it_o be_v write_v by_o the_o
many_o other_o apostolical_a church_n be_v the_o same_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o corinth_n and_o most_o other_o be_v make_v out_o of_o jew_n and_o gentile_n who_o have_v the_o same_o different_a apprehension_n about_o jewish_a ceremony_n as_o well_o as_o that_o at_o jerusalem_n and_o therefore_o the_o difference_n be_v not_o betwixt_o church_n and_o church_n but_o betwixt_o the_o member_n of_o the_o same_o church_n who_o be_v leave_v at_o liberty_n by_o the_o apostolical_a synod_n except_o in_o three_o thing_n and_o for_o that_o reason_n the_o gentile_a dissenter_n can_v possible_o be_v the_o patron_n of_o we_o unless_o the_o vindicator_n can_v show_v that_o the_o jewish_a ceremony_n be_v impose_v as_o we_o be_v by_o some_o christian_a church_n if_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o rule_n be_v give_v and_o matter_n of_o decence_n impose_v and_o that_o any_o christian_n in_o that_o age_n refuse_v to_o submit_v to_o they_o let_v he_o name_v they_o as_o the_o precedent_n of_o his_o cause_n and_o party_n i_o dare_v say_v that_o every_o churchman_n will_v allow_v they_o to_o be_v so_o in_o the_o next_o paragraph_n he_o be_v fond_a of_o the_o notion_n which_o he_o quarrel_v with_o in_o the_o last_o so_o inconstant_a be_v those_o people_n that_o know_v not_o what_o they_o will_v have_v it_o fit_v the_o independent_o as_o exact_o as_o if_o it_o have_v be_v make_v for_o they_o for_o they_o hold_v a_o unity_n for_o substance_n though_o not_o for_o circumstance_n they_o be_v unite_v to_o all_o true_a church_n though_o for_o condemn_a bishop_n who_o be_v doubtless_o the_o principal_a and_o most_o necessary_a member_n they_o partake_v of_o the_o same_o table_n though_o they_o set_v up_o altar_n against_o altar_n they_o be_v the_o same_o with_o we_o in_o the_o external_n worship_n and_o service_n of_o god_n though_o in_o covenant_n against_o we_o and_o they_o refuse_v to_o communicate_v with_o we_o either_o in_o sacrament_n or_o prayer_n they_o be_v all_o unite_a to_o the_o head_n though_o not_o into_o one_o body_n either_o among_o themselves_o or_o with_o other_o for_o that_o part_n of_o unity_n i_o observe_v the_o gent._n pass_v over_o and_o with_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o reason_n it_o be_v hard_o to_o find_v several_a member_n unite_v into_o one_o body_n and_o yet_o still_o remain_v all_o independent_a that_o wherein_o they_o differ_v from_o other_o be_v according_a to_o the_o apostolical_a mode_n that_o wherein_o other_o differ_v from_o they_o be_v nothing_o but_o innovation_n otherwise_o they_o be_v the_o same_o with_o all_o true_a church_n if_o you_o will_v believe_v this_o gent._n to_o all_o which_o i_o shall_v only_o apply_v and_o argue_v in_o the_o plain_a word_n of_o st._n john_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o go_v out_o from_o we_o but_o they_o be_v not_o of_o we_o for_o if_o they_o have_v be_v of_o we_o they_o will_v no_o doubt_n have_v continue_v with_o we_o but_o they_o go_v out_o that_o they_o may_v be_v make_v manifest_a that_o they_o be_v not_o all_o of_o we_o 1_o john_n 2_o 1â—…_n touch_v the_o continuance_n of_o the_o church_n he_o agree_v with_o we_o p._n 17._o only_o about_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o apostle_n he_o be_v please_v to_o fall_v out_o not_o apprehend_v how_o any_o man_n can_v succeed_v the_o apostle_n in_o their_o apostolical_a power_n if_o he_o mean_v the_o authority_n they_o have_v in_o the_o church_n i._n e._n over_o the_o presbyter_n and_o other_o member_n we_o affirm_v bishop_n to_o be_v their_o succ_fw-la ssor_n it_o be_v not_o reasonable_a to_o suppose_v that_o any_o branch_n of_o auth_n rity_n give_v by_o our_o saviour_n to_o his_o apostle_n die_v with_o they_o for_o if_o their_o authority_n over_o the_o presbyter_n expire_v with_o their_o person_n why_o shall_v that_o over_o the_o people_n continue_v after_o they_o unless_o the_o gentleman_n will_v suppose_v which_o i_o suppose_v he_o will_v not_o that_o the_o laity_n be_v the_o only_a person_n that_o need_v the_o regulation_n of_o superior_n all_o multitude_n must_v have_v governor_n and_o the_o common_a presbyter_n be_v certain_o oh_o numerou_n a_o populace_n to_o be_v all_o independent_a let_v they_o submit_v therefore_o to_o bishop_n their_o successor_n as_o they_o do_v to_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o especial_o till_o such_o time_n as_o you_o can_v find_v a_o text_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n commission_n be_v only_o a_o patent_n for_o life_n it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o such_o consequence_n in_o the_o universal_a church_n that_o few_o will_v believe_v you_o upon_o your_o own_o bare_a word_n as_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v universal_a and_o extend_v to_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o be_v the_o same_o in_o all_o church_n p._n 18._o so_o bishop_n do_v succeed_v they_o in_o the_o same_o authority_n and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o for_o those_o humane_a agreement_n which_o the_o vindicator_n can_v disallow_v the_o government_n ecclesiastical_a must_v be_v so_o exercise_v and_o i_o can_v wish_v the_o gentleman_n will_v be_v please_v to_o consider_v whether_o a_o bishop_n be_v not_o as_o true_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o presbyter_n as_o much_o a_o presbyter_n in_o any_o other_o man_n diocese_n or_o parish_n as_o he_o be_v in_o his_o own_o be_v he_o suspend_v or_o deprive_v when_o he_o be_v out_o of_o his_o own_o bound_n if_o not_o i_o hope_v he_o may_v be_v a_o minister_n like_o the_o apostle_n all_o the_o world_n over_o and_o yet_o the_o exercise_n of_o his_o ministry_n confine_v within_o certain_a limit_n nor_o do_v this_o notion_n give_v the_o pope_n any_o great_a power_n in_o england_n than_o it_o do_v the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n at_o rome_n which_o be_v none_o at_o all_o on_o the_o contrary_a if_o ordinary_a pastor_n be_v pastor_n only_o within_o their_o own_o precinct_n mr._n h._n and_o his_o vindicator_n though_o ordain_v can_v be_v none_o because_o they_o exercise_v their_o pretend_a ministry_n in_o other_o man_n parish_n he_o will_v not_o dispute_v the_o episcopal_a jurisdiction_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n but_o he_o tell_v we_o it_o signify_v nothing_o till_o the_o nature_n and_o extent_n of_o that_o office_n be_v first_o determine_v out_o of_o scripture_n p._n 18._o as_o if_o the_o epistle_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n be_v no_o scripture_n we_o find_v timothy_n appoint_v by_o st._n paul_n to_o examine_v the_o qualification_n of_o such_o as_o be_v to_o be_v ordain_v to_o lay_v hand_n sudden_o on_o no_o man_n to_o receive_v accusation_n and_o proceed_v judicial_o and_o to_o rebuke_v before_o all_o even_a elder_n themselves_o if_o there_o be_v occasion_n titus_n be_v to_o ordain_v elder_n in_o every_o city_n to_o set_v thing_n in_o order_n to_o rebuke_v with_o all_o authority_n to_o admonish_v and_o reject_v heretic_n and_o this_o power_n of_o ordination_n and_o jurisdiction_n wherewith_o timothy_n and_o titus_n be_v invest_v be_v what_o the_o bishop_n have_v all_o along_o exercise_v and_o do_v still_o challenge_v at_o this_o day_n 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2.41_o more_o daily_o add_v v._o 47._o five_o thousand_o you_o find_v mention_v act_v 4.4_o multitude_n both_o of_o man_n and_o woman_n add_v c._n 5.14_o and_o yet_o still_o the_o word_n of_o god_n increase_v and_o the_o number_n of_o the_o disciple_n multiply_v in_o jerusalem_n great_o and_o a_o great_a company_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v obedient_a to_o the_o faith_n c._n 6.7_o now_o i_o desire_v he_o to_o give_v i_o his_o answer_n to_o these_o follow_a query_n whether_o all_o this_o number_n of_o believer_n do_v make_v one_o congregation_n or_o more_o whether_o or_o no_o they_o be_v under_o the_o government_n of_o only_o one_o bishop_n whether_o each_o of_o they_o be_v know_v to_o his_o bishop_n and_o to_o one_o another_o whether_o they_o can_v not_o be_v member_n of_o the_o same_o church_n till_o they_o be_v all_o personal_o acquaint_v do_v they_o all_o ordinary_o meet_v in_o one_o place_n to_o worship_n god_n and_o if_o so_o where_o be_v it_o be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o capacious_a or_o do_v the_o jew_n lend_v the_o temple_n for_o a_o ordinary_a meeting-place_n to_o the_o christian_n how_o the_o preacher_n can_v be_v hear_v by_o all_o this_o multitude_n at_o once_o whether_o the_o vigour_n and_o strength_n of_o his_o lung_n or_o the_o thinness_n of_o jerusalem_n air_n do_v enable_v and_o qualify_v he_o for_o that_o loud_a performance_n or_o whether_o he_o have_v the_o conqueror_n engine_n or_o sir_n samuel_n morland_n speak_v trumpet_n or_o a_o peculiar_a sort_n of_o voice_n like_o mr._n baxters_n friend_n who_o preach_v to_o a_o congregation_n of_o ten_o thousand_o man_n so_o that_o they_o can_v all_o hear_v he_o and_o yet_o his_o voice_n be_v none_o of_o the_o loud_a i_o desire_v his_o information_n in_o these_o particular_n that_o we_o may_v see_v whether_o it_o be_v likely_a that_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n do_v increase_v and_o multiply_v in_o the_o congregational_a way_n but_o we_o hope_v he_o will_v not_o stir_v a_o syllable_n from_o the_o sacred_a text_n that_o be_v no_o way_n proper_a for_o a_o man_n that_o receive_v nothing_o but_o express_v scripture_n in_o the_o next_o paragraph_n he_o fall_v foul_a upon_o one_o of_o his_o own_o blunder_n and_o because_o t._n w._n affirm_v that_o all_o other_o church_n be_v one_o with_o that_o of_o jerusalem_n all_o unite_a in_o one_o body_n under_o one_o head_n christ_n jesus_n think_v he_o confound_v he_o mighty_o by_o prove_v a_o variety_n in_o circumstance_n of_o worship_n as_o if_o to_o say_v that_o those_o church_n be_v unite_v in_o one_o body_n and_o that_o all_o member_n agree_v in_o every_o circumstance_n of_o worship_n be_v the_o same_o thing_n and_o he_o that_o confute_v the_o latter_a confute_v the_o former_a also_o he_o may_v have_v consider_v that_o even_o in_o that_o variety_n
this_o case_n the_o line_n will_v be_v right_a enough_o and_o all_o that_o can_v be_v say_v be_v that_o there_o be_v one_o usurper_n in_o the_o line_n of_o jurisdiction_n who_o never_o be_v within_o the_o line_n of_o order_n and_o consequent_o can_v make_v no_o intercision_n in_o it_o and_o perhaps_o to_o prevent_v any_o irregularity_n in_o the_o succession_n of_o that_o order_n the_o apostle_n give_v the_o example_n and_o the_o church_n enjoin_v that_o a_o bishop_n shall_v be_v ordain_v by_o three_o at_o least_o etc._n apâ—…st_n c._n 1._o con._n nican_n c._n 4._o con._n areâ—…_n c._n 21._o con._n laodic_n c._n 12._o con._n paris_n 1._o c._n 6_o etc._n etc._n and_o likewise_o that_o he_o shall_v be_v constitute_v with_o the_o approbation_n of_o his_o metropolitan_a and_o comprovincials_a which_o practice_n be_v certain_o a_o very_a great_a security_n to_o the_o right_a succession_n it_o be_v not_o very_o likely_a that_o all_o the_o bishop_n of_o a_o province_n shall_v be_v so_o extreme_o careless_a to_o suffer_v a_o irregular_a ordination_n and_o the_o person_n concern_v to_o consecrate_v all_o void_a of_o that_o character_n which_o they_o pretend_v to_o bestow_v after_o all_o that_o ever_o any_o abbot_n that_o be_v no_o bishop_n do_v ordain_v bishop_n i_o do_v utter_o deny_v adamnanuâ—…_n in_o his_o life_n of_o columba_n primorâ—…_n adamn_v vit._n col._n usher_n primorâ—…_n make_v mention_n of_o a_o bishop_n in_o the_o abbey_n of_o hylas_n and_o that_o there_o be_v always_o one_o reside_v there_o be_v confirm_v by_o bishop_n usher_n out_o of_o the_o vlsleâ—…_n annal_n and_o perhaps_o the_o bishop_n of_o dâ—…nkeld_n as_o the_o learned_a bishop_n of_o st._n asaph_n conjecture_n join_v in_o the_o consecration_n of_o bishop_n aldan_n finan_n 102._o bp._n of_o st._n asaph_n of_o â—…h_n gou._n p._n 102._o and_o colman_n have_v the_o like_a ordination_n but_o tuda_n the_o next_o in_o succession_n be_v ordain_v a_o bishop_n among_o the_o south_n scot_n in_o ireland_n so_o that_o shall_v we_o allow_v his_o instance_n true_a viz._n that_o aâ—…dan_n finan_n and_o colman_n be_v ordain_v by_o the_o abbot_n yet_o that_o succession_n at_o lindisfarn_n in_o all_o likelihood_n fail_v in_o colman_n and_o the_o line_n of_o order_n be_v right_a in_o tuda_n and_o consequent_o his_o marginal_a instance_n be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n a_o instance_n that_o have_v be_v frequent_o urge_v by_o the_o nonconformist_n against_o episcopacy_n and_o as_o often_o confute_v from_o the_o most_o authentic_a history_n of_o those_o time_n by_o divers_a learned_a man_n 4_o vind._n c._n e._n cap._n 9_o vind._n ignat._n par_fw-fr 1._o c._n 10._o orig._n brit._n ch._n gou._n c._n 5._o barbos_n past_a p._n 2._o all._n 3._o num._n 3.4_o etc._n etc._n maur._n de_fw-fr alz._n de_fw-fr prac._n episc_n dig._n p._n 2._o c._n 5._o num._n 6_o 7_o 8_o 9_o aquin._n sup._n q._n 38._o be_v 1._o res_fw-la ad_fw-la ter_z vid._n victor_n in_o sum._n num._n 216._o sect._n de_fw-fr sac._n ord._n non_fw-la facile_fw-la credeâ—…em_fw-la victor_n in_o sum_n num._n 237._o quem_fw-la seq_fw-la vivald_v in_o candle_n aureo_fw-la p._n 1._o tit_n de_fw-fr sacram._n ordin_n num._n 17._o in_o fine_a asserenti_fw-la se_fw-la vidisse_fw-la quandam_fw-la bullam_fw-la papae_fw-la concedentem_fw-la facultatem_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la conferendi_fw-la diac._n &_o sub._n diac._n barbos_n past_a p._n 2._o al._n 3._o n._n 4._o ap._n c._n 67._o nicaen_fw-la c._n 19_o con._n c._n p._n c._n 4_o bishop_n bramhâ—…ll_v bishop_n pearson_n the_o present_a bishop_n of_o worcester_n and_o st._n asaph_n and_o mr._n dodwell_n have_v so_o full_o answer_v this_o business_n of_o hylas_n that_o a_o man_n will_v wonder_v at_o the_o confidence_n of_o this_o gent._n that_o he_o shall_v still_o hope_v to_o impose_v the_o same_o mistake_v upon_o the_o world_n nor_o do_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n allow_v that_o a_o abbot_n who_o be_v no_o bishop_n shall_v consecrate_v a_o bishop_n they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o allow_v it_o that_o their_o canonist_n general_o declare_v that_o the_o pope_n himself_o can_v empower_v any_o presbyter_n to_o ordain_v so_o much_o as_o a_o deacon_n a_o abbot_n who_o have_v jus_fw-la mitrae_fw-la &_o bacuâ—…_n a_o cardinal_n or_o a_o ordinary_a presbyter_n by_o commission_n from_o the_o pope_n may_v confer_v the_o lesser_a order_n but_o not_o the_o great_a or_o those_o which_o be_v call_v sacred_a viz._n those_o of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n nay_o even_o as_o to_o the_o lesser_a thomas_n aquinas_n joh._n major_n and_o paludanus_n affirm_v that_o it_o be_v safe_a to_o receive_v the_o order_n of_o sub-deacon_n from_o another_o than_o from_o such_o a_o privilege_a presbyter_n and_o although_o anguianus_n and_o some_o few_o more_o be_v of_o opinion_n that_o the_o pope_n may_v empower_v a_o presbyter_n to_o confer_v the_o high_a order_n yet_o it_o never_o be_v the_o allow_a practice_n of_o that_o church_n and_o i_o challenge_v he_o to_o produce_v so_o much_o as_o one_o instance_n of_o any_o abb_n t_o that_o be_v no_o bishop_n who_o ever_o consecrate_a a_o bishop_n as_o for_o subdeacon_n and_o such_o people_n who_o be_v sometime_o ordainâ—…d_v by_o abbot_n the_o gentleman_n know_v well_o enough_o we_o have_v no_o occasion_n for_o they_o in_o england_n and_o therefore_o the_o succession_n of_o our_o bishop_n may_v be_v just_a and_o regular_a notwithstanding_o this_o first_o case_n as_o to_o the_o second_o viz._n whether_o this_o line_n of_o ordina_fw-la ion_n may_v be_v continue_v in_o a_o schismatical_a church_n we_o answer_v one_a that_o such_o be_v the_o care_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n so_o great_a a_o regard_n they_o have_v to_o a_o right_a succâ—…ssion_n that_o they_o who_o think_v the_o ordination_n of_o certain_a heretic_n void_a such_o as_o the_o paâ—…lianists_n and_o montanist_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n decree_v they_o to_o be_v ordain_v by_o a_o catholic_n bishop_n and_o it_o be_v likewise_o determine_v by_o the_o first_o council_n of_o constantinople_n concern_v the_o ordination_n make_v by_o maximus_n cymicus_n that_o they_o be_v all_o null_a they_o neither_o allow_v he_o to_o be_v a_o bishop_n not_o those_o ordain_v by_o he_o to_o enjoy_v any_o function_n among_o the_o clergy_n and_o in_o the_o roman_a church_n cxix_o bâ—â—n_n tâ—m_fw-la 9_o p._n 2â—4_n pâ—â—tin_n dâ—_n vâ—_n pont._n p._n 22.4_o contra_fw-la â—â—ephanum_fw-la iii_o alâ—s_n iv_o mabill_n in_o ordiâ—_n rom._n com._n p._n cxix_o particular_o those_o ordain_v by_o constantine_n the_o lay-invade_a of_o the_o papal_a chair_n be_v by_o a_o council_n under_o stephen_n the_o three_o or_o four_o to_o return_v to_o their_o former_a order_n unless_o they_o be_v in_o great_a esteem_n with_o the_o people_n and_o in_o that_o case_n they_o be_v to_o be_v re-ordained_a by_o the_o church_n and_o for_o fear_n of_o lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o a_o future_a schism_n it_o be_v further_o decree_v that_o none_o of_o they_o shall_v be_v promote_v to_o any_o high_a degree_n by_o these_o and_o many_o other_o instance_n it_o be_v plain_a what_o care_n the_o church_n have_v take_v to_o re-ordain_a or_o utter_o silence_v those_o who_o order_n they_o think_v void_a and_o lest_o any_o such_o person_n shall_v creep_v into_o strange_a place_n and_o there_o invade_v that_o office_n to_o which_o they_o have_v no_o right_n no_o man_n either_o of_o the_o clergy_n or_o laity_n 51._o ap._n 〈◊〉_d 12._o con_v 〈◊〉_d 30_o con_v 〈◊〉_d c._n 33._o 〈…〉_o c._o 〈◊〉_d c._n 7._o con_v 〈◊〉_d c._n 12._o con_v elizbeâ—â—_n c._n 51._o be_v to_o hold_v communion_n with_o they_o under_o pain_n of_o incur_v the_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n no_o clergy_n man_n be_v to_o go_v abroad_o without_o commendatory_a letter_n no_o bishop_n to_o be_v ordain_v without_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o his_o metropolitan_a and_o the_o neighbour_a bishop_n no_o heretic_n to_o be_v admit_v into_o order_n and_o if_o ordain_v to_o be_v depose_v 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go_v off_o and_z bishop_n aidan_n come_v thither_o and_o unless_o the_o gent._n can_v show_v the_o contrary_a viz._n that_o none_o of_o the_o former_a convert_v be_v then_o remain_v or_o if_o they_o be_v that_o none_o of_o they_o be_v better_o qualify_v none_o more_o competent_a judge_n than_o the_o rest_n but_o all_o alike_o it_o be_v plain_a by_o their_o practice_n that_o they_o be_v not_o of_o his_o opinion_n when_o ever_o a_o new_a people_n be_v convert_v to_o the_o faith_n great_a care_n be_v always_o take_v to_o have_v a_o lawful_a ministry_n among_o they_o both_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n due_o ordain_v 10._o ruffin_n h._n e._n l._n 1._o c._n 10._o for_o this_o reason_n the_o iberian_o dispatch_v a_o embassy_n to_o constantine_n desire_v that_o priâ—…sts_n may_v be_v send_v '_o they_o 38._o soz._n h._n e._n l._n 6._o c._n 38._o and_o when_o the_o saracen_n be_v convert_v mavia_n their_o queen_n desire_n that_o moses_n a_o saracen_n may_v be_v the_o bishop_n
talk_v of_o lewd_a and_o extravagan_a caress_n between_o ambitious_a prince_n and_o aspire_a churchman_n vind._n p._n 28._o while_n those_o of_o his_o own_o party_n be_v extant_a and_o may_v be_v see_v though_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o ceremony_n have_v no_o moral_a goodness_n in_o they_o as_o he_o say_v be_v acknowledge_v p_o 28._o yet_o decency_n have_v which_o we_o think_v will_v not_o easy_o be_v preserve_v without_o they_o and_o that_o it_o be_v fit_a they_o shall_v be_v choose_v and_o impose_v by_o the_o authority_n and_o wisdom_n of_o superior_n for_o if_o otherwise_o religious_a office_n be_v to_o be_v perform_v according_a to_o the_o opinion_n and_o will_n of_o every_o rude_a and_o fantastical_a person_n we_o see_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o conventicle_n where_o that_o liberty_n be_v take_v how_o awkardly_a they_o will_v be_v manage_v to_o the_o great_a scandal_n and_o offence_n of_o the_o more_o ingenious_a and_o sober_a people_n nor_o be_v it_o easy_o to_o be_v 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to_o hear_v and_o if_o he_o will_v but_o do_v one_o thing_n more_o viz._n allow_v the_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n in_o convocation_n to_o be_v fit_a judge_n of_o that_o decorum_n than_o every_o mean_a and_o half-witted_a pastor_n there_o will_v be_v very_o little_o more_o require_v from_o he_o i_o be_o confident_a when_o this_o be_v do_v that_o people_n will_v be_v better_o reconcile_v to_o our_o ceremony_n than_o to_o suffer_v themselves_o to_o be_v excommunicate_v and_o damn_a for_o not_o comply_v with_o they_o as_o the_o vindicator_n talk_v page_n 28._o in_o the_o mean_a time_n if_o any_o man_n be_v so_o stiff_a and_o peevish_a or_o malicious_a against_o the_o church_n as_o to_o deprave_v her_o ceremony_n and_o so_o far_o despise_v her_o jurisdiction_n and_o government_n that_o he_o will_v not_o vouchssafe_v a_o appearance_n to_o the_o most_o legal_a summons_n nor_o yield_v to_o the_o most_o reasonable_a and_o just_a monition_n in_o that_o case_n she_o do_v pursue_v our_o saviour_n rule_n he_o that_o neglect_v to_o hear_v the_o church_n we_o think_v aught_o to_o be_v reckon_v as_o a_o heathen_a man_n and_o a_o publican_n or_o in_o the_o language_n of_o the_o unite_a minister_n when_o all_o due_a mean_n for_o the_o reduce_v he_o prove_v ineffectual_a 4._o head_n of_o agreement_n tit._n 3._o sect._n 4._o he_o have_v hereby_o cut_v himself_o off_o from_o the_o church_n communion_n the_o church_n may_v just_o esteem_v and_o declare_v itself_o discharge_v of_o any_o further_a inspection_n over_o he_o and_o in_o this_o practice_n the_o mild_a protestant_a church_n agree_v with_o we_o 1642._o eccles_n dis_n of_o the_o reform_v church_n of_o france_n transl_n into_o eng._n 1642._o the_o reform_a church_n of_o france_n have_v use_v a_o coercive_a power_n over_o their_o inferior_a member_n those_o that_o shall_v stir_v up_o strife_n or_o contention_n to_o disâ—…oyn_v or_o break_v the_o union_n of_o their_o church_n concern_v some_o point_n of_o their_o doctrine_n or_o discipline_n or_o about_o the_o method_n matter_n or_o style_n of_o the_o catechism_n though_o of_o humane_a composition_n or_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n public_a prayer_n etc._n etc._n shall_v be_v censure_v as_o rebellious_a person_n and_o in_o case_n they_o will_v not_o renounce_v their_o error_n then_o they_o be_v to_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o church_n if_o the_o pastor_n or_o elder_n do_v it_o he_o shall_v present_o be_v suspend_v from_o his_o charge_n and_o employment_n and_o be_v proceed_v against_o at_o the_o next_o ecclesiastical_a synod_n if_o he_o teach_v false_a doctrine_n and_o persist_v after_o admonition_n if_o he_o be_v not_o obedient_a to_o the_o admonition_n of_o the_o consistory_n or_o convict_v of_o heresy_n schism_n or_o rebellion_n against_o ecclesiastical_a order_n he_o be_v to_o be_v depose_v if_o he_o thrust_v himself_o into_o the_o ministry_n where_o there_o be_v pure_a preach_v already_o and_o will_v not_o deâ—…it_v when_o warn_v of_o it_o he_o be_v to_o be_v quite_o cut_v off_o and_o proceed_v against_o as_o the_o synod_n shall_v think_v fit_a and_o the_o same_o course_n be_v to_o be_v take_v with_o all_o his_o follower_n and_o at_o the_o end_n of_o that_o book_n we_o be_v tell_v that_o this_o order_n and_o discipline_n have_v be_v resolve_v and_o conclude_v on_o by_o no_o less_o than_o twenty_o seven_o national_a synod_n from_o 1559_o to_o 1637_o etc._n etc._n now_o if_o these_o reform_a church_n of_o france_n be_v not_o to_o be_v censure_v as_o uncharitable_a for_o the_o establishment_n and_o exercise_n of_o this_o discipline_n i_o know_v no_o reason_n why_o we_o shall_v lie_v under_o that_o imputation_n in_o the_o next_o paragraph_n he_o find_v fault_n with_o t._n w_n notion_n of_o of_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n but_o give_v none_o of_o his_o own_o whether_o for_o fear_v lest_o he_o shall_v mistake_v or_o lest_o his_o own_o party_n shall_v be_v condemn_v by_o it_o i_o shall_v not_o now_o inquire_v it_o be_v certain_o a_o nice_a point_n for_o separatist_n to_o manage_v it_o be_v hard_o for_o those_o that_o neither_o pray_v with_o nor_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n nor_o live_v under_o the_o government_n of_o any_o church_n to_o demonstrate_v plain_o how_o they_o hold_v communion_n with_o all_o as_o this_o vindicator_n confident_o pretend_v however_o though_o he_o can_v establish_v nothing_o himself_o yet_o that_o he_o may_v do_v something_o towards_o find_v fault_n with_o t._n w._n he_o proceed_v to_o examine_v his_o aggregate_v description_n of_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n which_o he_o tell_v you_o consist_v of_o these_o thing_n first_o a_o firm_a belief_n of_o all_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n contain_v in_o the_o apostolical_a nicene_n and_o athanasian_n creed_n now_o this_o mighty_o offend_v he_o one_a because_o it_o be_v not_o say_v in_o scripture_n as_o if_o he_o that_o believe_v those_o creed_n do_v not_o believe_v scripture_n those_o creed_n though_o of_o human_a composition_n 14._o symbolum_n apost_n exigi_fw-la coepit_fw-la ubi_fw-la variae_fw-la haereses_fw-la in_o ecclesiam_fw-la irruperant_fw-la voss_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la symb._n dis_n 1._o c._n 14._o yet_o be_v according_a to_o scripture_n and_o contain_v the_o faith_n into_o which_o christian_n be_v baptise_a they_o be_v the_o symbola_fw-la wherein_o the_o orthodox_n of_o all_o country_n agree_v and_o whereby_o they_o have_v distinguish_v themselves_o in_o several_a age_n from_o those_o heretic_n which_o do_v not_o assent_v to_o they_o the_o two_o former_a have_v be_v general_o receive_v and_o admit_v into_o the_o liturgy_n of_o the_o eastern_a and_o western_a church_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v strange_a how_o the_o vindicator_n can_v suppose_v that_o the_o greek_a and_o other_o eastern_a church_n be_v shut_v out_o by_o this_o condition_n of_o communion_n it_o be_v true_a in_o the_o article_n of_o the_o procession_n they_o object_v against_o the_o latin_n the_o addition_n of_o filioque_fw-la in_o the_o nicene_n or_o constantinopolitan_a creed_n and_o perhaps_o not_o untrue_o consider_v that_o in_o the_o old_a ordo_fw-la romanus_n publish_v by_o hittorpius_n wherein_o that_o creed_n be_v order_v to_o be_v use_v in_o both_o language_n these_o word_n though_o in_o the_o latin_a etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d qui_fw-la ex_fw-la patre_fw-la filioque_fw-la procedit_fw-la qui_fw-la cum_fw-la patre_fw-la &_o filio_fw-la simul_fw-la adoratur_fw-la hittorp_n ord._n rom._n de_fw-fr diu._n offic._n p._n 39_o ed._n col._n 1568._o vide_fw-la &_o voss_n de_fw-fr tribus_fw-la 9_o symbol_n diss_n 3_o c._n 20._o etc._n etc._n yet_o be_v omit_v in_o the_o greek_a but_o nevertheless_o they_o use_v the_o creed_n and_o from_o they_o it_o come_v original_o into_o the_o latin_a church_n and_o as_o to_o that_o which_o we_o receive_v under_o the_o name_n of_o athanasius_n those_o among_o the_o greek_n who_o think_v it_o to_o be_v his_o have_v always_o a_o very_a great_a veneration_n
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n vid._n dodw._n in_o irenae_n dis_n 1._o sect._n xvii_o and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o subordinate_a presbyter_n to_o do_v the_o same_o thing_n by_o the_o bishop_n order_n in_o other_o congregation_n within_o his_o diocese_n and_o that_o there_o be_v more_o congregation_n than_o one_o under_o the_o bishop_n of_o smyrna_n be_v evident_a from_o that_o passâ—…ge_n of_o ignatius_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o they_o smyrn_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ig._n ad_fw-la smyrn_n let_v no_o man_n perform_v any_o of_o those_o thing_n which_o belong_v to_o public_a assembly_n without_o the_o bishop_n that_o eucharist_n be_v to_o be_v think_v valid_a which_o be_v either_o under_o he_o or_o at_o least_o which_o he_o allow_v what_o have_v he_o to_o do_v to_o allow_v the_o eucharist_n in_o congregation_n independent_a upon_o he_o and_o to_o talk_v of_o give_v allowance_n to_o himself_o in_o his_o own_o be_v to_o great_a a_o blunder_n for_o ignatius_n to_o be_v charge_v with_o so_o that_o all_o the_o distinction_n here_o make_v be_v betwixt_o a_o congregation_n under_o the_o bishop_n viz._n that_o where_o he_o be_v personal_o present_a and_o another_o congregation_n assemble_v by_o his_o permission_n and_o allowance_n and_o must_v consequent_o imply_v that_o in_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n there_o be_v several_a congregation_n under_o one_o bishop_n what_o relate_v to_o servant_n be_v nothing_o to_o this_o purpose_n in_o ignatius_n whatever_o it_o be_v in_o our_o author_n head_n nor_o be_v the_o second_o alligation_n more_o regular_a or_o just_a than_o the_o former_a antistitis_fw-la manu_fw-la in_o tertullian_n for_o thence_o it_o come_v original_o by_o way_n of_o mr._n baxter_n to_o our_o author_n refer_v not_o to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n 3._o aquam_fw-la adituri_fw-la ibidem_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o aliquanto_fw-la prius_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sub_fw-la antistitâ—…_n manu_fw-la contestamur_fw-la nos_fw-la renunciare_fw-la diaibolo_fw-it etc._n etc._n eucharistiae_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la &_o in_fw-la tempore_fw-la victus_fw-la &_o omnibus_fw-la &_o mandatum_fw-la a_o domino_fw-la etiam_fw-la antelucanis_fw-la caetizbus_fw-la nec_fw-la de_fw-la aliorum_fw-la manu_fw-la quam_fw-la praesidentium_fw-la sumimus_fw-la tert._n de_fw-fr cor._n milit._n c._n 3._o but_o to_o the_o form_n of_o renounce_v the_o devil_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v preparatory_a to_o baptism_n and_o the_o person_n to_o be_v baptise_a do_v it_o sub_fw-la antistitis_fw-la manu_fw-la for_o ex_fw-la as_o this_o man_n quote_v it_o will_v have_v make_v it_o nonsense_n tertullian_n do_v indeed_o speak_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n not_o to_o be_v receive_v nisi_fw-la de_fw-la praesidentium_fw-la manu_fw-la but_o this_o will_v do_v our_o author_n no_o service_n the_o word_n praesidentium_fw-la include_v the_o bench_n of_o presbyter_n as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n in_o cathedra_fw-la vii_o vid._n pear_n vind._n ignat._n p._n 2._o c._n 13._o assert_v 2._o dod._n in_o iren._n dis_n 1._o sect._n vii_o nor_o will_v the_o passage_n out_o of_o irenaeus_n which_o he_o so_o hasty_o misapply_v if_o full_o cite_v and_o understand_v afford_v any_o advantage_n to_o his_o cause_n presbyter_n in_o that_o father_n oftentimes_o denote_v the_o age_n rather_o than_o the_o office_n of_o those_o person_n mean_v by_o it_o as_o divers_z learned_a man_n have_v already_o observe_v and_o in_o that_o sense_n not_o only_a presbyter_n but_o likewise_o bishop_n deacon_n and_o layman_n may_v be_v comprehend_v under_o that_o title_n and_o according_o irenaeus_n distinguish_v by_o divers_a character_n tell_v they_o what_o sort_n of_o elder_n they_o be_v to_o hearken_v to_o 43_o qua_fw-la propter_fw-la eye_n qui_fw-la in_o eccles_n sunt_fw-la pres_n obaudire_fw-la oportet_fw-la hiis_fw-la qui_fw-la successionem_fw-la habent_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n sicut_fw-la ostendimus_fw-la qui_fw-la cum_fw-la episc_n successione_n charisma_n veritatis_fw-la certum_fw-la secundum_fw-la placitum_fw-la patris_fw-la acceperunt_fw-la iren._n l._n 4._o c._n 4_o 3._o iren._n l._n 4._o c._n 43_o viz._n first_o eye_n qui_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sunt_fw-la those_o who_o be_v within_o the_o pale_a of_o the_o church_n second_o hiis_fw-la qui_fw-la successionem_fw-la habent_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n etc._n etc._n those_o who_o have_v the_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n and_o who_o together_o with_o the_o succession_n in_o their_o episcopal_a charge_n do_v receive_v the_o sure_a gift_n of_o truth_n according_a to_o the_o will_n of_o the_o father_n whence_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o irenaeus_n in_o this_o place_n mean_v bishop_n only_o when_o he_o talk_v of_o the_o apostle_n successor_n and_o therefore_o our_o author_n inference_n in_o behalf_n of_o presbyter_n have_v their_o succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n as_o well_o as_o bishop_n be_v out_o of_o door_n irenaeus_n reckon_v up_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n in_o order_n as_o they_o succeed_v to_o eleutherius_fw-la then_o bishop_n who_o be_v the_o twelve_o from_o the_o apostle_n conclude_v hac_fw-la ordinaâ—…ione_n &_o successione_n etc._n etc._n by_o this_o ordination_n and_o succession_n that_o tradition_n which_o be_v in_o the_o church_n from_o the_o apostlâ—…s_n and_o the_o preach_a of_o the_o truth_n be_v hand_v down_o to_o we_o from_o which_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o succession_n in_o their_o day_n be_v more_o than_o bare_a conformity_n to_o the_o apostle_n model_n in_o government_n and_o worship_n for_o they_o succee_v the_o apostle_n first_o in_o power_n and_o authority_n so_o irenaeus_n quibus_fw-la etiam_fw-la ipsas_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la committebant_fw-la quos_fw-la &_o successores_fw-la relinquebant_fw-la suum_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la locum_fw-la magisterii_fw-la tradentes_fw-la second_o in_o place_n so_o linus_n be_v constitute_v the_o successor_n of_o st._n peter_n and_o st._n paul_n at_o rome_n and_o irenaeus_n tell_v we_o further_o that_o they_o make_v he_o bishop_n and_o therefore_o if_o his_o successor_n afterward_o mention_v keep_v up_o to_o the_o apostle_n model_n they_o must_v likewise_o derive_v their_o office_n as_o he_o do_v from_o person_n invest_v wâ—…th_v the_o same_o character_n and_o consequent_o as_o linus_n be_v ordain_v by_o the_o apostle_n who_o have_v that_o episcopal_a authority_n in_o themselves_o which_o they_o confer_v upon_o he_o so_o the_o rest_n down_o to_o eleutherius_fw-la must_v be_v ordain_v by_o bishop_n and_o if_o so_o let_v our_o author_n consider_v with_o himself_o whether_o his_o notion_n or_o we_o be_v near_a in_o all_o point_n to_o the_o sense_n of_o those_o time_n when_o i_o consider_v how_o nice_a and_o strict_a this_o gentleman_n be_v in_o the_o notion_n of_o succession_n p._n 19_o 20_o that_o he_o can_v not_o allow_v two_o bishop_n to_o succeed_v one_o apostle_n nor_o one_o to_o succeed_v two_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v that_o in_o the_o write_n of_o 16_o page_n his_o head_n shall_v grow_v so_o loose_a as_o to_o make_v it_o no_o more_o than_o conformity_n to_o the_o apostle_n model_n in_o government_n and_o worship_n sure_o if_o this_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n as_o the_o gentleman_n affirm_v one_o bishop_n may_v succeed_v two_o apostle_n or_o one_o apostle_n be_v succeed_v by_o twenty_o bishop_n without_o any_o such_o absurdity_n or_o blunder_n as_o our_o author_n cry_v out_o against_o in_o the_o forequote_v page_n we_o all_o grant_v that_o for_o person_n wilful_o to_o withdraw_v themselves_o from_o such_o particular_a church_n as_o be_v frame_v according_a to_o scripture_n rule_n and_o impose_v no_o new_a or_o needless_a term_n be_v to_o act_n schismatical_o because_o such_o wilful_a separation_n when_o nâ—…_n cause_n be_v give_v can_v be_v without_o breach_n of_o charity_n with_o our_o fellow_n christian_n page_n 37._o yes_o it_o may_v through_o the_o prejudices_fw-la of_o education_n or_o for_o want_n of_o understanding_n people_n may_v take_v that_o to_o be_v new_a which_o be_v very_o old_a and_o that_o which_o be_v very_o decent_a and_o fit_a to_o be_v impose_v to_o be_v altogether_o needless_a and_o withdraw_v themselves_o from_o particular_a church_n frame_v according_a to_o scripture_n rule_n when_o pure_o out_o of_o mistake_n they_o think_v they_o otherwise_o they_o may_v be_v lead_v by_o interest_n or_o win_v over_o by_o persuasion_n to_o a_o new_a communion_n and_o yet_o have_v no_o hard_a thought_n of_o that_o church_n or_o its_o member_n which_o they_o leave_v i_o can_v believe_v that_o every_o dissenter_n at_o his_o first_o go_v off_o from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v immediate_o hate_v we_o i_o find_v several_a of_o they_o very_o kind_a aâ—…d_n affable_a person_n and_o yet_o if_o our_o author_n have_v grant_v right_o all_o their_o charity_n though_o a_o very_a good_a and_o commendable_a thing_n can_v excuse_v they_o from_o the_o gild_n of_o act_v schismatical_o and_o because_o our_o author_n have_v grant_v this_o i_o shall_v grant_v likewise_o that_o schism_n be_v frequent_o the_o effect_n of_o uncharitableness_n which_o perhaps_o be_v all_o that_o honest_a mr._n h._n mean_v when_o he_o call_v d_o it_o formalis_fw-la ratio_fw-la people_z