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A45157 A second discourse about re-ordination being an answer to two or three books come out against this subject, in behalf of the many concern'd at this season, who for the sake of their ministry, and upon necessity, do yield to it, in defence of their submission / by John Humfrey, min. ; together, with his testimony, which from the good hand of the Lord, is laid upon himself, to bear, in this generation, against the evil, and to prevent, or repress (as much as by him may be possible) the danger, of the imposition. Humfrey, John, 1621-1719. 1662 (1662) Wing H3709; ESTC R9881 127,714 152

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in_o joh._n hom_n etc._n etc._n cyp._n the_o simp_n prael_n august_n de_fw-fr civit._fw-la dei_fw-la 64_o &_o quaest_n ex●vet_fw-la &_o nov_n test_n c._n 9●_n he_o yet_o add_v this_o be_v the_o more_o proper_a ordination_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o full_a original_n and_o seminal_a tradition_n of_o the_o ministerial_a power_n whereby_o all_o future_a ordination_n of_o the_o like_a kind_n be_v sanctify_v and_o for_o these_o cause_v our_o saviour_n iterate_v their_o ordination_n to_o the_o pastoral_n extraordinary_a and_o ordinary_a office_n and_o the_o rather_o lest_o his_o death_n may_v be_v think_v to_o have_v make_v void_a their_o first_o more_o secret_a and_o covert_a ordination_n mr._n lloid_n of_o primitive_a episcopacy_n and_o ceremony_n i_o must_v confess_v i_o be_o not_o take_v with_o the_o attribute_v that_o to_o the_o text_n in_o john_n which_o be_v excellent_o proper_a to_o the_o last_o of_o matthew_n mat._n 20.18_o 19_o 20._o see_v the_o 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