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A45143	A modest and peaceable inquiry into the design and nature of some of those historical mistakes that are found in Dr. Stillingfleet's preface to his Unreasonableness of separation wherein the innocency of Protestant dissenters is cleared up and vindicated from the indecent censures of the doctor / by N. B.	Humfrey, John, 1621-1719.; Lobb, Stephen, d. 1699.	1681 (1681)	Wing H3694; ESTC R8947	41,612	54

some now are so busie in seeking to destroy Is all this done for the Honour of the Reformation Is this the way to preserve the Protestant Religion among us to fill mens minds with such prejudices against the first settlement of it to go about to make the World believe that the Church Government then established was repugnant to the institution of Christ and that our Martyr-Bishops exercised an unlawful Authority over Diocesan Churches Such men do the Jesuits work for them as effectually as if they had been set on work by them 1. In answer it must be carefully observed that the Papists do not so much envy and maligne the Episcopal Government 't is the Drs. mistake for the Hierarchy or the English Episcopacy is not so formidable a thing in a Jesuits Eye neither is it their principle or Interest to destroy it 1. Not their principle which is for the conserving Episcopal Government for 1. The Papists plead most zealously for that difference there is said by the Church of England to be between a Bishop and a Presbyter 2. They deny the peoples right of calling their own Ministers 3. Assert that the Church hath power to institute new Ceremonies 1. They do distinguish between a Bishop and a Presbyter and with the Church of England assert that the Catholick Church doth acknowledge a distinction to be between a Bishop and a Presbyter and that the Bishop is jure divino greater than a Presbyter and this Bellarmine and the Romish faction insist on in opposition to the Reform'd namely in opposition to Wickliff the Lutherans and Calvenists whence they go on with the greatest malice against the Protestants to the end they may Haereticate and damn every Soul among 'em and say that the Bishop only hath power to ordain and that if any be ordained by Presbyters that Ordination is null which is according to that of Gregory III in his Epistle to Boniface from which they proceed as I shall shew immediately to deny the Lutherans and Calvenists to be true Churches for want of the right Administration of Sacraments that is the product of the want of true Ministers or which is the same because they have not Ministers Episcopally ordained so f Bel. de Cleric lib. 1. c. 14. Bellarmine Whereby it appears that the papists are not against this part of the Prelacy of Bishops 2. That the People have no Interest in the Vocation or calling of their own Ministers is also the Principle of the Church of Rome For g Bellarm. de Cleric lib. 1. c. 2. c. 7. Bellarmine in stating this point saith that the Controversie between them and their Adversaries to wit the Reformed is about the Right of Creating Bishops or Presbyters in the Church and he asserts that Martin Luther John Calvin Mat Illyricus Brentius Chemnitius and others of the Sectaries i.e. of the Protestants do hold That no one is Lawfully called or chosen to the Office of a Bishop but by the consent and suffrage of the People and therefore they infer saith Bellarmine that there are no Bishops or Pastors among the Papists rightly called for want of the suffrage of the People But on the other side the Church of Rome concludes that the people have no right to call their Ministers and that although the People did formerly choose their own Ministers it was through the Concession or Connivance of the Popes And therefore they say that the Hereticks or the Protestants have no true Ministry no right Administration of Sacraments no Church no Salvation for extra Ecclesiam nullasalus The Reasons they give against the Peoples Election besides many others are these drawn 1. From the Indiscretion of the People and consequently their inability to judge of the Capacity of the Person to be Chosen 2. The greater Number of the people are Foolish and the viler sort and consequently-will choose men like themselves 3. Such a practice is obnoxious and liable unto sad Tumults c. Not remembering that the people who are to choose must be considered as men fearing God and that there is care taken that the person to be Chosen is out of such a number as are by the Godly and Judicious approv'd of as men of Competent Abilities c. In this also the Principles of the Jesuites are far from destroying the Church of England 3. That the Church hath power to institute new (h) Bel. de effect Sacram. lib. 2. c. 29. Quaedam caeremoniae instituuntur ad solum ornatum significationem ut vestis alba Neophytorum Lumina cercorum c. de his agimus c. 30 Fatemur enimomnes Catholici Caeremonias Ecclesiasticas non esse praecipuum cultum nec ab iis pendere essentiam essicaciam sacramentorum nec habere vim Justificandi ut habent sacramenta proinde inferiora esse sacramentis nec esse approbandos ritus qui pugnant cum verbo Dei nec esse nimis multiplicandos Et cap. 31. Sed quicquid de hoc sit nostra propositio solum asserit contra haereticos licere Ecclesiae instituere novas caeremonias non ad justificandum a peccatis mortalibus sed ad alios fines Omnes nostrae caeremoniae sunt bonae divinae nam indicantur in genere a Deo probantur multis modis 1. In ipso testimonio Pauli 1 Cor. 14. Omnia honeste c 2. Cum Deus jubet obediri praepositis in genere jubet servari omnes leges Ecclesiasticas quorum non paucae sunt de caeremoniis Ceremonies which Assertion they thus limit 1. Not such Ceremonies as are repugnant to the Word of God but 2. Such as are generally contain'd in that Scripture Let all things be done decently and in order and that they are not to be preferred to the Sacraments nor must the same efficacy be attributed unto them they only assert against the Hereticks that 't is lawful for the Church to institute new Ceremonies not for Justification but for other ends The white Garment being for Ornament and Signification All this Bellarmine is express in and therefore not against this part of the Church of England That I abuse not the Episcopal nor Bellarmine will soon appear to such as will but seriously consult the sense of the Church of England and Bellarmine who are express in asserting all this and much more namely that as the Decency of the Ceremonies is one Reason why we must observe them so our Superiours Command is another Thus the Principles of the Jesuits and other Papists being so much for a Prelatical Episcopacy so much against the peoples Choice and so much for Ceremonies with the mention'd Limitations how is it possible that the Dr. presum'd to assert that the Papists aim at the destruction of what they too much contend for against the Generality of our Reformed Divines But 2. It is not the Interest of the Jesuites to destroy Episcopacy or eradicate the Ceremonies and thereby break the Constitution of this Government