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guide_v and_o govern_v separation_n from_o the_o rest_n and_o yet_o to_o have_v no_o more_o power_n than_o any_o other_o private_a member_n therefore_o say_v the_o apostle_n submit_v to_o they_o that_o be_v over_o you_o 1_o thess_n 5.12_o obey_v they_o that_o rule_n over_o you_o heb._n 13.17_o master_n shepherd_n wholesome_a caveat_n etc._n etc._n page_n 100_o line_n 28._o hence_o those_o that_o do_v acknowledge_v gevernour_n in_o the_o church_n for_o name_n sake_n but_o they_o be_v such_o as_o have_v no_o more_o power_n than_o a_o private_a brother_n they_o be_v to_o watch_v say_v they_o so_o be_v private_a member_n to_o admonish_v so_o be_v every_o private_a member_n etc._n etc._n these_o allow_v the_o name_n but_o deny_v the_o thing_n idem_fw-la page_n 101._o line_n 8._o hence_o also_o when_o man_n shall_v cry_v for_o liberty_n to_o speak_v a_o elder_a forbid_v it_o what_o may_v not_o the_o church_n have_v liberty_n yes_o true_a but_o you_o be_v not_o the_o church_n a_o elder_n reprove_v they_o will_v reprove_v again_o what_o shall_v not_o the_o church_n have_v liberty_n a_o elder_n give_v reason_n strong_a and_o unanswerable_a for_o something_o to_o be_v do_v a_o young_a fellow_n step_v up_o and_o say_v without_o ground_n or_o show_v of_o it_o that_o be_v your_o light_n and_o i_o be_v otherwise_o what_o may_v not_o the_o church_n have_v liberty_n yes_o but_o you_o be_v not_o the_o church_n this_o be_v very_o sad_a and_o have_v be_v a_o root_n of_o great_a scandal_n that_o ever_o god_n way_n have_v idem_fw-la page_n 102._o line_n 9_o etc._n etc._n 3._o in_o the_o execution_n of_o their_o office_n according_a to_o christ_n they_o be_v over_o the_o whole_a church_n heb._n 13._o obey_v they_o that_o rule_v you_o he_o speak_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n mr._n shepherd_n wholesome_a caveat_n pag._n 102._o line_n 26._o their_o power_n right_o execute_v be_v the_o power_n of_o christ_n hence_o refuse_v it_o you_o refuse_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o he_o if_o man_n will_v not_o be_v rule_v by_o ordinance_n but_o will_v rule_v ordinance_n they_o go_v about_o to_o rule_n christ_n ibid._n pag._n 104._o line_n 28._o 4._o they_o have_v power_n to_o oversee_v when_o they_o see_v cause_n act._n 20.28_o and_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o state_n of_o the_o flock_n to_o know_v their_o spiritual_a condition_n mr._n shepherd_n pag._n 105._o line_n 20._o hence_o man_n cast_v off_o the_o government_n of_o christ_n when_o they_o will_v not_o have_v their_o spiritual_a condition_n search_v into_o the_o elder_n foot_n be_v now_o too_o great_a for_o his_o shoe_n i_o be_o to_o give_v a_o account_n to_o god_n so_o be_v they_o also_o of_o they_o now_o thou_o can_v not_o give_v it_o if_o thou_o enquire_v not_o how_o thy_o condition_n stand_v neither_o can_v they_o with_o comfort_n unless_o thou_o tell_v they_o how_o it_o stand_v with_o thou_o ibid._n pag._n 106._o l._n 3._o the_o minister_n charge_n be_v to_o cast_v the_o seed_n the_o elder_n duty_n be_v to_o 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sad_a debate_n about_o it_o be_v to_o cast_v off_o this_o yoke_n hence_o to_o propose_v a_o doubtful_a question_n to_o the_o church_n which_o may_v trouble_v or_o bring_v a_o offender_n sin_n to_o the_o church_n without_o council_n of_o the_o elder_n hence_o when_o man_n will_v not_o take_v warning_n from_o the_o elder_n of_o evil_a to_o come_v it_o be_v a_o cast_v off_o the_o lord_n yoke_n ibid._n pag._n 107._o 6._o they_o have_v power_n of_o public_a reproof_n of_o any_o member_n of_o the_o church_n in_o case_n of_o plain_a open_a and_o public_a offence_n other_o without_o leave_n can_v nor_o ought_v not_o reproof_n be_v part_n of_o the_o power_n peculiar_a to_o the_o governor_n in_o any_o society_n where_o governor_n be_v present_a and_o at_o hand_n in_o a_o family_n no_o wise_a man_n will_v suffer_v brawl_n among_o child_n and_o servant_n
covenant_n with_o god_n and_o conclude_v and_o determine_v upon_o a_o course_n that_o may_v tend_v to_o the_o heal_n and_o salvation_n of_o they_o all_o this_o be_v frequent_a in_o the_o old_a testament_n in_o the_o time_n of_o asa_n hezekiah_n and_o josiah_n these_o and_o the_o like_a example_n be_v not_o peculiar_a to_o the_o israelite_n as_o one_o entire_a national_a church_n these_o example_n hold_v forth_o no_o superiority_n in_o one_o church_n or_o court_n over_o another_o but_o all_o of_o they_o in_o a_o equal_a manner_n give_v advice_n in_o common_a and_o therefore_o such_o example_n be_v fit_a precedent_n for_o church_n of_o equal_a power_n within_o themselves_o to_o assemble_v together_o and_o take_v order_n with_o one_o accord_n for_o the_o reformation_n of_o they_o all_o mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o key_n pag._n 24_o l._n 22._o quest_n 13._o but_o what_o be_v the_o work_n that_o proper_o belong_v to_o synod_n answ_n it_o belong_v unto_o synod_n and_o counsel_n to_o debate_n 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to_o minister_v light_n and_o peace_n to_o such_o church_n as_o through_o want_n of_o light_n and_o peace_n lie_v in_o error_n or_o doubt_v at_o least_o and_o variance_n so_o they_o have_v power_n by_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n not_o only_o to_o give_v light_n and_o counsel_n in_o matter_n of_o truth_n and_o practice_n but_o also_o to_o command_v and_o enjoin_v the_o thing_n to_o be_v believe_v and_o do_v the_o express_a word_n of_o the_o synodal_n letter_n imply_v no_o less_o it_o seem_v good_a to_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o we_o to_o lay_v upon_o you_o no_o other_o burden_n this_o burden_n therefore_o to_o observe_v these_o necessary_a thing_n which_o they_o speak_v of_o they_o have_v power_n to_o impose_v it_o be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o bind_a power_n of_o the_o key_n to_o bind_v burden_n and_o this_o bind_n arise_v not_o only_o material_o from_o the_o weight_n of_o the_o matter_n impose_v which_o be_v necessary_a necessitare_fw-la praecepti_fw-la from_o the_o word_n but_o also_o formal_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o synod_n which_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n bind_v the_o more_o for_o the_o synod_n sake_n as_o a_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n teach_v by_o a_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n it_o bind_v to_o faith_n and_o obedience_n not_o only_o because_o it_o be_v gospel_n but_o also_o because_o it_o be_v teach_v by_o a_o minister_n for_o his_o calling_n fake_v and_o sure_o also_o a_o synod_n sometime_o meet_v to_o convince_v and_o admonish_v and_o offend_a church_n or_o presbytery_n they_o have_v power_n if_o they_o can_v heal_v the_o offender_n to_o determine_v to_o withdraw_v communion_n from_o they_o and_o further_o see_v they_o meet_v likewise_o sometime_o for_o general_a reformation_n they_o have_v power_n to_o decree_n and_o publish_v such_o ordinance_n as_o may_v conduce_v according_a to_o god_n to_o such_o reformation_n example_n whereof_o we_o have_v nehem._n 10.32_o 39_o 2_o chron._n 15.12_o 13._o mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o key_n page_n 25._o line_n 10._o quest_n 15._o how_o far_o then_o be_v particular_a church_n bind_v to_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o direction_n or_o decree_n of_o synod_n answ_n particular_a church_n be_v so_o far_o subject_a to_o the_o consociation_n of_o church_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n that_o they_o be_v bind_v in_o case_n of_o doubt_n and_o difficulty_n to_o crave_v their_o counsel_n and_o if_o it_o be_v according_a to_o god_n to_o follow_v it_o or_o if_o the_o particular_a church_n err_v from_o the_o rule_n and_o continue_v obstinate_o therein_o the_o consociation_n have_v authority_n to_o renounce_v the_o right_a hand_n of_o fellowship_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_n 2._o page_n 80._o line_n 10._o the_o synod_n direction_n and_o determination_n so_o far_o as_o consonant_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v with_o reverence_n and_o submission_n not_o only_o for_o their_o agreement_n therewith_o but_o secondary_o for_o the_o power_n whereby_o they_o be_v make_v as_o be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o god_n appoint_v thereunto_o in_o his_o word_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 16._o sect_n 5._o particular_a church_n be_v bind_v to_o acquiesce_v in_o the_o lawful_a decree_n of_o synod_n receive_v by_o the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o church_n and_o approve_v by_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n mr._n nortons_n answ_n to_o apollonius_n page_n 118._o line_n 3._o and_o this_o 1._o under_o the_o danger_n of_o incur_v the_o guilt_n of_o disturb_v the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o under_o the_o penalty_n of_o non-communion_n by_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n 3._o under_o the_o penalty_n of_o civil_a punishment_n to_o be_v inflict_v by_o the_o magistrate_n as_o the_o matter_n shall_v require_v mr._n norton_n ib._n l._n 9_o etc._n etc._n quest_n 16._o but_o have_v the_o synod_n authority_n to_o determine_v or_o conclude_v any_o thing_n that_o shall_v bind_v the_o church_n but_o according_a to_o the_o instruction_n which_o 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norton_n the_o opinion_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v be_v more_o sound_a than_o the_o opinion_n of_o a_o synod_n 2._o as_o it_o be_v in_o civil_a thing_n there_o be_v a_o absolute_a truth_n and_o there_o be_v a_o judicial_a truth_n and_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o supreme_a civil_a judge_n suppose_v the_o parliament_n be_v true_a quoad_fw-la homines_fw-la though_o it_o be_v not_o absolute_o true_a so_o it_o be_v in_o ecclesiastical_a thing_n the_o synod_n be_v the_o supreme_a and_o high_a judge_n of_o the_o question_n the_o sentence_n of_o the_o synod_n though_o it_o be_v not_o absolute_o true_a yet_o it_o be_v ecclesiastical_o true_a scil._n in_o foro_fw-la exteriore_fw-la 3._o although_o the_o truth_n after_o some_o new_a decree_n of_o a_o new_a synod_n repeal_n the_o act_n of_o the_o former_a may_v remain_v with_o the_o church_n 4._o if_o the_o error_n be_v not_o fundamental_a public_a order_n be_v to_o
give_v in_o wisdom_n and_o compassion_n to_o his_o church_n quest_n 1_o 2._o 3._o therefore_o how_o those_o church_n can_v be_v say_v to_o come_v near_o the_o rule_n and_o walk_v close_a to_o the_o rule_n who_o either_o have_v no_o officer_n at_o all_o as_o the_o church_n of_o h._n and_o the_o church_n of_o n._n or_o else_o content_a themselves_o with_o one_o officer_n a_o pastor_n have_v neither_o teacher_n ruler_n nor_o deacon_n as_o most_o of_o the_o gather_a church_n in_o england_n be_v this_o to_o walk_v according_a to_o rule_v be_v not_o this_o either_o to_o slight_v the_o compassion_n of_o christ_n in_o give_v these_o officer_n or_o to_o contradict_v the_o wisdom_n of_o christ_n and_o proclaim_v those_o office_n needless_a and_o useless_a which_o christ_n judge_v needful_a and_o useful_a and_o therefore_o appoint_v in_o his_o church_n 5._o ordination_n be_v a_o fundamental_a in_o church_n discipline_n and_o give_v the_o officer_n right_a in_o his_o office_n jus_o in_o re_fw-mi see_v quest_n 9_o 10._o therefore_o ordination_n be_v more_o than_o election_n which_o only_o give_v jus_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la and_o quaere_fw-la how_o many_o minister_n of_o our_o gather_a church_n can_v have_v a_o full_a right_n and_o authority_n to_o administer_v all_o ordinance_n have_v only_a election_n of_o the_o people_n which_o give_v but_o jus_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la and_o not_o ordination_n which_o give_v jus_o in_o re_fw-mi 6._o ordination_n be_v a_o act_n of_o rule_n and_o pertain_v to_o the_o presbytersy_n or_o presbytery_n que._n 11._o therefore_o not_o to_o the_o fraternity_n or_o body_n of_o the_o people_n 7._o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v dispense_v in_o public_a quest_n 1â—_n therefore_o why_o do_v many_o of_o the_o churchway_n so_o frequent_o baptize_v child_n in_o private_a 8._o the_o sacrament_n be_v badge_n to_o show_v our_o separation_n from_o all_o profane_a society_n and_o to_o signify_v our_o communion_n one_o with_o another_o in_o the_o profession_n and_o confession_n of_o the_o faith_n as_o our_o spiritual_a union_n and_o communion_n with_o christ_n our_o head_n mystical_o see_v quâ—st_n 13._o answ_n therefore_o the_o sacrament_n be_v note_n of_o the_o true_a church_n as_o the_o protestant_a writer_n have_v always_o maintain_v against_o the_o papist_n 9_o a_o person_n have_v his_o first_o right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n because_o he_o have_v a_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n of_o which_o it_o be_v a_o seal_n quest_n 14._o therefore_o the_o church_n covenant_n as_o they_o call_v it_o give_v not_o a_o man_n his_o first_o right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n for_o that_o be_v not_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n nor_o be_v the_o sacrament_n a_o seal_n of_o that_o 10._o for_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o the_o party_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n not_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a quest_n 14._o therefore_o whether_o the_o congregation_n be_v constitute_v after_o this_o or_o that_o form_n by_o express_a covenant_n or_o not_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o independent_a congregation_n or_o a_o classical_a congregation_n it_o be_v all_o one_o if_o a_o man_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n he_o come_v in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n 11._o it_o be_v requisite_a that_o those_o who_o be_v baptize_v and_o receive_v their_o member-ship_n in_o their_o infancy_n shall_v come_v to_o their_o trial_n and_o examination_n before_o they_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o supper_n and_o this_o examination_n may_v be_v make_v by_o the_o elder_n yea_o in_o some_o case_n it_o be_v necessary_a it_o shall_v be_v so_o and_o for_o all_o woman_n it_o be_v most_o warrantable_a and_o most_o without_o exception_n therefore_o such_o examination_n in_o presbyterian_a church_n be_v not_o sinful_a and_o unlawful_a nor_o deserve_v so_o much_o ignominy_n and_o scorn_n as_o some_o have_v cast_v upon_o it_o 12._o the_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n not_o only_o of_o our_o communion_n with_o christ_n and_o with_o the_o member_n of_o our_o own_o church_n but_o with_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n see_v quest_n 16._o therefore_o they_o who_o will_v partake_v with_o none_o but_o the_o member_n of_o their_o own_o church_n or_o a_o church_n of_o the_o like_a constitution_n nor_o suffer_v their_o member_n to_o partake_v in_o none_o but_o their_o own_o church_n be_v guilty_a of_o the_o great_a breach_n of_o christian_a love_n that_o can_v be_v unsaint_v and_o unchurch_v all_o the_o church_n that_o christ_n have_v upon_o the_o earth_n but_o themselves_o and_o with_o a_o kind_n of_o papal_a pride_n judge_v and_o as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o be_v excommunicate_v all_o other_o church_n contrary_a to_o their_o own_o principle_n that_o say_v no_o one_o church_n have_v power_n over_o another_o 13._o the_o wickedness_n of_o a_o minister_n do_v no_o way_n make_v void_a the_o act_n of_o his_o ministry_n nor_o give_v the_o people_n a_o dispensation_n to_o contemn_v it_o see_v quest_n 18._o 14._o the_o roll_a elder_n office_n be_v so_o clear_o and_o full_o ground_v in_o scripture_n as_o none_o can_v controvert_v it_o but_o he_o who_o spirit_n and_o apprehension_n be_v prepossess_v and_o forestall_v with_o prejudice_n quest_n 21.22_o 15._o the_o power_n and_o work_v of_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v very_o great_a and_o his_o office_n very_o needful_a in_o the_o church_n quest_n 23_o 24._o therefore_o they_o that_o will_v have_v none_o of_o these_o roll_a elder_n over_o they_o but_o leave_v all_o to_o themselves_o and_o their_o liberty_n and_o by_o this_o mean_n be_v not_o only_o single_a member_n or_o officer_n but_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n and_o elder_n and_o all_o this_o generation_n of_o man_n cast_v off_o the_o lord_n government_n be_v son_n of_o korah_n who_o condemnation_n sleep_v not_o etc._n etc._n quest_n 24._o answ_n 1._o quaere_fw-la whether_o some_o other_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o this_o as_o well_o as_o anabaptist_n familist_n etc._n etc._n 16._o if_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v confine_v within_o his_o compass_n the_o wing_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o bishop_n will_v be_v clip_v and_o their_o power_n exceed_o impeach_v quest_n 25._o therefore_o there_o be_v neither_o truth_n or_o modesty_n in_o they_o that_o say_v the_o presbyterian_a government_n which_o be_v manage_v by_o roll_a elder_n as_o well_o as_o the_o congregational_a be_v as_o tyrannical_a as_o prelacy_n and_o as_o antichristian_a as_o popery_n 17._o it_o be_v the_o devil_n subtlety_n to_o disgrace_n divide_v pull_v down_o the_o roll_a elder_n quest_n 23._o let_v they_o therefore_o consider_v who_o work_n they_o do_v and_o what_o reward_n without_o repentance_n they_o be_v like_a to_o have_v who_o drive_v such_o a_o design_n 18._o deacon_n be_v officer_n institute_v by_o christ_n and_o needful_a to_o be_v continue_v in_o the_o church_n quest_n 26._o 19_o the_o maintenance_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o act_n of_o justice_n not_o mercy_n debt_n not_o alm_n quest_n 28._o 20._o officer_n and_o ordinance_n be_v bestow_v upon_o the_o visible_a church_n not_o for_o their_o sake_n but_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a that_o be_v among_o they_o who_o good_a next_o under_o his_o own_o glory_n christ_n principal_o intend_v quest_n 29._o therefore_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o first_o in_o christ_n intention_n therefore_o the_o visible_a church_n especial_o the_o church_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n as_o such_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o boast_v herself_o in_o her_o privilege_n as_o the_o spouse_n and_o lacie_n and_o queen_n of_o christ_n see_v these_o and_o all_o other_o privilege_n be_v give_v she_o not_o for_o her_o own_o sake_n but_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a chap._n v._o of_o church_n government_n and_o censure_n question_v 1_o who_o be_v the_o seat_n or_o subject_n of_o church_n rule_n or_o government_n answ_n church_n government_n or_o rule_n be_v place_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n who_o therefore_o be_v call_v ruler_n the_o holy_a ghost_n frequent_o yea_o always_o when_o he_o mention_v church_n rule_n and_o church_n government_n ascribe_v it_o to_o elder_n whereas_o the_o work_n and_o duty_n of_o people_n be_v express_v in_o the_o phrase_n of_o obey_v their_o elder_n and_o submit_v themselves_o to_o they_o in_o the_o lord_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 10._o sect._n 7._o quest_n 2._o how_o be_v church_n government_n to_o be_v consider_v answ_n church_n government_n be_v to_o be_v attend_v either_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o essential_o or_o circumstantial_o of_o it_o mr._n hooker_n part_n 1._o page_n 3._o line_n 18._o quest_n 3._o what_o be_v the_o essential_o of_o church_n government_n answ_n the_o essential_o require_v to_o the_o complete_n of_o church_n government_n be_v partly_o
in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v partly_o in_o the_o ordinance_n that_o be_v dispense_v ibid._n p._n line_n 20._o quest_n 4._o what_o be_v essential_a in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v the_o ordinance_n answ_n in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v the_o kind_n of_o officer_n appoint_v to_o that_o work_n the_o nature_n bound_n and_o limit_n of_o their_o office_n all_o these_o be_v essential_o mr._n hooker_n ibid._n line_n 22._o quest_n 5._o what_o be_v the_o ordinance_n that_o these_o be_v to_o disperse_v answ_n the_o ordinance_n that_o these_o be_v to_o dispense_v be_v preach_v prayer_n seal_n church_n censure_n etc._n etc._n these_o all_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o word_n a_o fetch_v from_o the_o word_n and_o now_o under_o the_o gospel_n they_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o all_o place_n among_o all_o people_n at_o all_o time_n in_o all_o succeed_a generation_n until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n ibid._n line_n 25._o quest_n 6._o may_v there_o then_o be_v no_o alteration_n in_o these_o thing_n which_o you_o call_v essential_o answ_n it_o be_v not_o leave_v in_o the_o power_n of_o person_n officer_n church_n nor_o all_o the_o state_n in_o the_o world_n to_o add_v or_o diminish_v or_o alter_v any_o thing_n in_o the_o least_o measure_n but_o as_o god_n do_v appoint_v all_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o those_o institution_n do_v endure_v there_o ever_o as_o scripture_n speak_v until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n when_o the_o same_o power_n which_o appoint_v change_v they_o so_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n where_o be_v to_o expect_v no_o alteration_n christ_n the_o lawgiver_n he_o only_o appoint_v none_o but_o he_o can_v and_o he_o have_v make_v know_v his_o will_n that_o he_o will_v not_o change_v they_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 1._o p._n 5._o l._n 32._o quest_n 7._o what_o be_v the_o circumstantial_o of_o government_n answ_n the_o circumstantial_o of_o discipline_n as_o time_n place_n the_o carrying_z on_o of_o these_o dispensation_n in_o civil_a decency_n suitable_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o thing_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o time_n as_o peace_n and_o persecution_n the_o general_a rule_n of_o these_o be_v in_o the_o word_n deliver_v but_o the_o particular_a application_n admit_v variety_n mutability_n and_o alteration_n according_a as_o necessity_n or_o conveniency_n shall_v appear_v by_o emergent_a occasion_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 1_o page_n 6._o line_n 3._o quest_n 8._o you_o have_v speak_v already_o of_o most_o of_o the_o essential_o of_o church_n government_n namely_o officer_n and_o ordinance_n of_o worship_n but_o what_o say_v you_o of_o church_n censure_n be_v they_o necessary_a answ_n the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n for_o the_o prevent_n remove_v and_o heal_v of_o offence_n in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o reclaim_n and_o gain_v of_o offend_a brethren_n for_o the_o deter_v other_o from_o the_o like_a offence_n for_o purge_v out_o the_o leaven_n which_o may_v infect_v the_o whole_a lump_n for_o vindicate_v the_o honour_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o his_o church_n and_o the_o holy_a profession_n of_o his_o gospel_n and_o for_o prevent_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n which_o may_v just_o fall_v upon_o the_o church_n if_o they_o shall_v suffer_v his_o covenant_n and_o the_o seal_n thereof_o to_o be_v profane_v by_o notorious_a and_o obstinate_a offender_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 14._o sect_n 1._o quest_n 9_o how_o many_o censure_n be_v there_o in_o the_o church_n answ_n three_o the_o first_o admonition_n the_o second_o suspension_n the_o three_o excommunication_n quest_n 10._o what_o be_v admonition_n answ_n admonition_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n the_o first_o more_o private_a when_o the_o offend_a brother_n admonish_v the_o offender_n of_o his_o offence_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n between_o he_o and_o the_o offender_n alone_o the_o second_o less_o private_a and_o yet_o not_o public_a when_o he_o take_v one_o or_o two_o with_o he_o platform_n of_o discipline_n chap._n 14._o sect_n 2._o mr._n cotton_v way_n pag._n 89._o quest_n 11._o but_o what_o if_o the_o offend_a party_n be_v not_o gain_v by_o either_o of_o these_o admonition_n answ_n the_o offend_a brother_n tell_v the_o church_n of_o it_o to_o wit_n in_o god_n way_n mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o way_n pag._n 90._o line_n 12._o quest_n 12._o what_o do_v you_o mean_v by_o tell_v the_o church_n in_o god_n way_n answ_n the_o offend_a brother_n be_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o elder_n to_o tell_v it_o the_o church_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n chap._n sect_n 2._o that_o be_v he_o tell_v the_o elder_n who_o be_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o church_n that_o by_o they_o it_o may_v be_v present_v before_o the_o church_n mr._n cotton_v way_n pag._n 90._o line_n 13._o the_o matter_n must_v first_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o elder_n and_o by_o they_o debate_v and_o deliver_v to_o the_o church_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 3._o p._n 36_o l._n 2._o quest_n 13._o but_o why_o must_v the_o mattor_n be_v first_o bring_v to_o the_o elder_n and_o debate_v by_o they_o answ_n 1._o for_o that_o they_o be_v guide_n and_o leader_n of_o the_o church_n heb._n 13.17_o the_o watchman_n and_o overseer_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o they_o must_v know_v the_o cause_n and_o controversy_n to_o the_o full_a in_o all_o circumstance_n difficulty_n wind_n and_o turn_n thereof_o that_o they_o may_v be_v able_a to_o lead_v the_o congregation_n in_o the_o way_n of_o peace_n and_o truth_n which_o they_o can_v do_v unless_o they_o know_v the_o way_n themselves_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 3._o pag._n 36._o line_n 3._o 2._o to_o they_o it_o appertain_v to_o judge_v whether_o the_o thing_n be_v of_o weight_n and_o worth_n and_o so_o need_v and_o require_v the_o presence_n and_o assistance_n of_o the_o body_n to_o express_v their_o judgement_n against_o they_o and_o the_o party_n guilty_a of_o they_o or_o no_o for_o if_o they_o be_v petty_a business_n and_o altogether_o unfit_a and_o unworthy_a to_o trouble_v the_o congregation_n withal_o it_o be_v in_o their_o power_n to_o prevent_v such_o causeless_a and_o needless_a disturbance_n and_o therefore_o to_o suppress_v any_o further_a proceed_n therein_o mr._n hooker_n part_v 3._o pag._n 36._o line_n 10._o object_n but_o by_o this_o mean_n if_o the_o elder_n be_v corrupt_a in_o judgement_n or_o partial_a in_o affection_n they_o may_v silence_v the_o weight_a cause_n that_o can_v be_v and_o so_o prejudice_v the_o innocency_n of_o those_o they_o be_v not_o friendly_a to_o and_o hinder_v the_o reformation_n of_o those_o who_o in_o a_o corrupt_a and_o partial_a way_n they_o sinful_o favour_n answ_n therefore_o as_o it_o be_v in_o their_o power_n to_o suppress_v such_o petty_a occasion_n as_o be_v not_o worthy_a the_o time_n pain_n and_o disturbance_n that_o must_v be_v spend_v upon_o they_o so_o yet_o to_o prevent_v injustice_n and_o partiality_n in_o such_o case_n the_o party_n who_o take_v himself_o wrong_v may_v complain_v of_o the_o elder_n in_o that_o behalf_n and_o if_o the_o congregation_n see_v apparent_o that_o they_o have_v deal_v unjust_o and_o partial_o it_o be_v in_o their_o power_n to_o rectify_v but_o if_o the_o complaint_n prove_v unjust_a and_o unreasonable_a be_v it_o at_o the_o peril_n of_o he_o that_o complain_v for_o he_o be_v to_o be_v censure_v sharp_o and_o severe_o as_o out_o of_o pride_n and_o perverseness_n refuse_v to_o listen_v to_o the_o seasonable_a advice_n and_o counsel_n of_o those_o who_o be_v set_v over_o he_o by_o the_o lord_n as_o also_o because_o he_o have_v needless_o disturb_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o congregation_n as_o much_o as_o in_o he_o lie_v hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_v 3._o pag._n 6._o line_n 26._o three_o the_o preparation_n be_v to_o be_v make_v by_o the_o elder_n because_o if_o the_o body_n of_o the_o people_n be_v numerous_a they_o will_v be_v unable_a with_o any_o comely_a conveniency_n to_o weigh_v all_o the_o circumstance_n and_o difficulty_n which_o will_v certain_o and_o necessary_o occur_v in_o such_o agitation_n nor_o can_v in_o reason_n bestow_v their_o time_n and_o pain_n upon_o they_o as_o the_o intricacy_n and_o perplexity_n of_o the_o work_n will_v sometime_o require_v ibid._n quest_n 14._o but_o what_o be_v the_o work_n or_o power_n of_o the_o member_n then_o in_o order_n unto_o censure_n answ_n as_o the_o brethren_n have_v a_o power_n of_o order_n and_o the_o privilege_n to_o expostulate_v with_o their_o brethren_n in_o case_n of_o private_a scandal_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n matth._n 18.15_o 16._o so_o in_o case_n of_o public_a scandal_n the_o whole_a church_n of_o brethren_n have_v power_n and_o privilege_n to_o join_v with_o the_o elder_n in_o inquire_v hear_v judge_v of_o public_a scandal_n so_o as_o to_o
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