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A66932 A little stone, pretended to be out of the mountain, tried, and found to be a counterfeit, or, An examination & refutation of Mr. Lockyers lecture, preached at Edinburgh, anno 1651, concerning the mater of the visible church and afterwards printed with an appendix for popular government of single congregations : together with an examination, in two appendices, of what is said on these same purposes in a letter of some in Aberdene, who lately have departed from the communion and government of this church / by James Wood ... Wood, James, 1608-1664. 1654 (1654) Wing W3399; ESTC R206983 330,782 402

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subjoin_v to_o his_o vindiciae_fw-la vindiciarum_fw-la i_o shall_v here_o note_v some_o few_o of_o they_o to_o this_o purpose_n for_o the_o reader_n who_o may_v be_v have_v not_o the_o book_n at_o hand_n 1._o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n as_o a_o apostle_n as_o a_o elder_a and_o as_o a_o believer_n so_o the_o sense_n be_v most_o sit_v the_o key_n pag._n 4._o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v give_v to_o peter_n not_o as_o a_o apostle_n nor_o as_o a_o elder_a but_o as_o a_o profess_a believer_n the_o way_n peter_n receive_v not_o the_o key_n mere_o as_o a_o believer_n but_o as_o a_o believer_n public_o profess_v his_o faith_n the_o way_n clear_v p._n 2._o fol._n 39_o 9_o it_o appear_v that_o christ_n give_v the_o key_n to_o the_o fraternity_n with_o the_o presbytery_n ibid._n and_o the_o way_n clear_v part._n 2._o pag._n 22._o a_o particular_a church_n of_o saint_n profess_v the_o faith_n i_o member_n without_o offificer_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o all_o the_o church_n office_n with_o all_o their_o spiritual_a gift_n and_o power_n the_o key_n pag._n 31._o 9_o as_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v diverse_a so_o be_v the_o subject_n to_o who_o they_o be_v commit_v diverse_a the_o key_n pag._n 11._o so_o locky_a here_o but_o that_o he_o add_v not_o profess_v the_o apostle_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o apostolical_a power_n ibid._n 32._o a_o synod_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o that_o power_n whereby_o error_n be_v convince_v and_o condemn_v ibid._n pag._n 47._o not_o believer_n as_o believer_n but_o believer_n convenant_v and_o fit_o capable_a according_a to_o christ_n appointment_n hook_n suru._n p._n 1._o p._n 203._o 9_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n belong_v first_o to_o a_o congregation_n of_o covenant_a believer_n hook_n suru._n part._n 1._o pag._n 219._o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n as_o the_o first_o subject_n ibid._n p._n 195._o that_o conceit_n be_v wide_a to_o make_v 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as_o we_o do_v in_o our_o church_n now_o but_o none_o of_o these_o nor_o all_o of_o they_o amount_v to_o a_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a power_n of_o government_n but_o as_o for_o such_o act_n as_o belong_v direct_o to_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a government_n as_o ordination_n of_o minister_n judicial_a sentence_a person_n to_o be_v excommunicate_a or_o absolution_n from_o excommunication_n give_v of_o definitive_a sentence_n in_o public_a determination_n of_o controversy_n of_o faith_n or_o of_o matter_n pertain_v to_o order_n and_o rite_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n let_v our_o author_n produce_v any_o testimony_n or_o allow_v practice_n of_o the_o people_n formal_a influence_n and_o concurrence_n in_o these_o if_o they_o will_v say_v any_o thing_n from_o that_o antiquity_n for_o a_o ecclesiastic_a government_n proper_o democraticall_a either_o in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n section_n 15_o hierome_n who_o be_v near_o these_o age_n and_o better_o acquaint_v with_o their_o way_n than_o these_o author_n tell_v we_o in_o the_o general_a in_o who_o hand_n the_o power_n of_o government_n be_v then_o in_o that_o remarkable_a and_o famous_a say_n of_o he_o on_o the_o epistle_n to_o tit._n c._n 1._o antequam_fw-la diaboli_fw-la instinctu_fw-la studia_fw-la in_o religione_fw-la fierent_fw-la &_o diceretur_fw-la in_o populo_fw-la ego_fw-la sum_fw-la pauli_n ego_fw-la apollo_n ego_fw-la vero_fw-la cephae_fw-la communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v what_o learned_a chamier_n say_v on_o this_o of_o hierome_n lib._n 10._o de_fw-la oecumen_fw-la pontifc_fw-la 5._o §_o 22._o answer_v to_o bellarmin_n he_o arg._n respondeo_fw-la ad_fw-la primum_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la aristocratia_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la totidem_fw-la syllabis_fw-la nominata_fw-la tamen_fw-la certò_fw-la significatam_fw-la his_fw-la verbis_fw-la communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o he_o add_v bonam_fw-la autem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la id_fw-la regiminis_fw-la formam_fw-la inde_fw-la sequitur_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dicat_fw-la hieronymus_n come_v in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la id_fw-la sit_fw-la optimum_fw-la quod_fw-la verissimum_fw-la id_fw-la autem_fw-la verissimum_fw-la quod_fw-la primum_fw-la dicit_fw-la etiam_fw-la hieron_n fuisse_fw-la ex_fw-la institutionis_fw-la dominicae_fw-la veritate_fw-la and_o mark_v in_o this_o same_o learned_a author_n who_o word_n i_o be_o now_o cite_v that_o the_o very_a thing_n he_o undertake_v to_o demonstrate_v in_o that_o c._n 5._o and_o some_o follow_v both_o from_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n be_v that_o the_o government_n as_o well_o of_o particular_a as_o of_o consociat_fw-la churches_n be_v pure_a aristocracy_n c._n 5._o §_o 1._o section_n 16_o more_o particular_o 1._o that_o ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o only_o be_v the_o authoritative_a act_n in_o the_o call_v of_o a_o minister_n and_o that_o which_o confer_v ministerial_o under_o christ_n a_o mininisteriall_a power_n be_v in_o these_o primitive_a time_n the_o proper_a and_o peculiar_a act_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o presbytery_n be_v so_o evident_a and_o clear_a to_o all_o that_o have_v read_v any_o thing_n of_o these_o time_n that_o it_o be_v waste_v of_o time_n and_o paper_n to_o produce_v testimony_n for_o it_o indeed_o we_o find_v in_o antiquity_n that_o after_o that_o once_o there_o begin_v a_o constant_a president_n to_o be_v set_v up_o in_o the_o presbytery_n with_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n which_o in_o scripture_n be_v common_a to_o all_o presbyter_n appropriate_a to_o he_o alone_o somewhat_o of_o the_o act_n of_o ordination_n begin_v also_o to_o be_v peculiar_a to_o he_o and_o as_o he_o advance_v in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d preeminency_n above_o presbyter_n so_o be_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n more_o and_o more_o defer_v to_o he_o or_o usurp_v by_o he_o alone_o and_o hence_o come_v that_o point_n of_o difference_n between_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o presbyter_n of_o which_o i_o in_o his_o time_n quid_fw-la facit_fw-la exceptâ_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la episcopus_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la facit_fw-la presbyter_n but_o that_o ever_o the_o people_n have_v any_o formal_a concurrence_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a to_o antiquity_n section_n 17_o 2._o that_o the_o power_n and_o exercise_v of_o the_o key_n of_o discipline_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v sentence_v unto_o censure_n and_o absolution_n from_o censure_n also_o be_v only_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o college_n of_o presbyter_n in_o those_o time_n of_o the_o church_n be_v as_o evident_a to_o such_o as_o be_v any_o way_n acquaint_v in_o they_o origen_n hom._n 7._o in_o josuam_fw-la tertio_fw-la admonitum_fw-la resipiscere_fw-la nolentem_fw-la jubet_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la corpore_fw-la desecari_fw-la per_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la praesides_fw-la the_o centuriator_n cent._n 3._o c._n 7._o tell_v we_o that_o then_o jus_fw-la tractandi_fw-la de_fw-la excommunicandis_fw-la aut_fw-la recipiendis_fw-la lapsis_fw-la publicae_fw-la penes_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la seniores_fw-la erat_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la eam_fw-la rem_fw-la convenire_fw-la solebant_fw-la and_o they_o cite_v for_o this_o tertullia_n apologetic_n the_o order_n then_o observe_v in_o receive_v penitent_n that_o have_v offend_v by_o grievous_a scandalous_a sin_n be_v most_o clear_a for_o this_o they_o be_v first_o to_o compear_v before_o the_o bishop_n and_o his_o clergy_n i._n e._n the_o presbytery_n wherein_o the_o bishop_n then_o differ_v from_o other_o presbyter_n ordine_fw-la tantum_fw-la non_fw-la gradu_fw-la by_o they_o the_o penitent_n cause_v be_v judicial_o cognosce_v the_o manner_n of_o satisfaction_n prescribe_v and_o enjoin_v to_o they_o and_o have_v perform_v that_o and_o make_v their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d before_o the_o people_n they_o be_v actual_o absolve_v by_o the_o imposition_n of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n or_o the_o presbytery_n cyprian_n epistle_n be_v full_a of_o testimony_n to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v needless_a labour_n to_o insist_v in_o citation_n of_o they_o only_o i_o think_v it_o worth_a the_o pain_n to_o produce_v one_o passage_n whereby_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v that_o the_o way_n of_o absolve_v and_o receive_v penitent_n be_v just_a as_o it_o be_v now_o in_o the_o presbyterian_a government_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n and_o substance_n it_o be_v in_o lib._n 3._o epist_n 11._o in_o pamel_n ord._n epist_n 46._o from_o cornelius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o cyprian_a concern_v the_o return_n of_o some_o confessor_n from_o the_o novatian_a schism_n to_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n there_o cornelius_n after_o he_o have_v relate_v how_o these_o confessor_n have_v express_v their_o desire_n of_o reconciliation_n to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o take_v with_o the_o fault_n lay_v to_o their_o charge_n in_o a_o private_a and_o extrajudiciall_a way_n he_o proceed_v thus_o omni_fw-la igitur_fw-la actu_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o perlato_fw-la placuit_fw-la contrahi_fw-la presbyterium_fw-la adfuerunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la episcopi_fw-la quinque_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o hodie_fw-la praesentes_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ut_fw-la firmato_fw-la consilio_fw-la quid_fw-la circa_fw-la personam_fw-la eorum_fw-la observari_fw-la deberet_fw-la consensu_fw-la omnium_fw-la statueretur_fw-la et_fw-la ut_fw-la motum_fw-la omnium_fw-la &_o consilium_fw-la singulorum_fw-la dignosceres_fw-la etiam_fw-la sententias_fw-la nostras_fw-la placuit_fw-la in_o notitiam_fw-la vestri_fw-la perferri_fw-la quas_fw-la &_o subjectas_fw-la leges_fw-la his_o ita_fw-la gestis_fw-la in_o presbyterium_fw-la venerunt_fw-la vrbanus_n etc._n etc._n et_fw-la plerique_fw-la fratres_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la iis_fw-la adjunxerant_fw-la summis_fw-la precibus_fw-la desiderantes_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la ante_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la gesta_fw-la in_fw-la oblivionem_fw-la cederent_fw-la nullaque_fw-la eorum_fw-la mentio_fw-la haberetur_fw-la quod_fw-la erat_fw-la consequens_fw-la omnis_fw-la hic_fw-la actus_fw-la populo_fw-la erat_fw-la insinuandus_fw-la ut_fw-la &_o ipsos_fw-la viderent_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la constitutos_fw-la have_v relate_v the_o people_n expression_n of_o their_o joy_n he_o set_v down_o the_o confession_n which_o the_o penitent_n make_v nos_fw-la errorem_fw-la nostrum_fw-la confitemur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o then_o add_v istâ_fw-la
appendix_n for_o the_o present_a what_o we_o have_v say_v be_v sufficient_a to_o show_v that_o john_n baptize_v such_o as_o come_v to_o he_o upon_o th●_n 〈◊〉_d profession_n without_o any_o delay_n of_o time_n or_o wait_v for_o trial_n of_o the_o sincerity_n of_o their_o save_a conversion_n section_n 11_o in_o like_a manner_n find_v we_o that_o the_o apostle_n admit_v to_o baptism_n person_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o make_v profession_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n without_o delay_n ●or_a trial_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o grace_n in_o their_o heart_n as_o act_n 2._o 38._o 41._o we_o read_v they_o baptize_v and_o so_o add_v to_o the_o church_n three_o thousand_o that_o same_o day_n that_o they_o first_o profess_v without_o delay_n of_o the_o matter_n for_o so_o much_o as_o one_o day_n when_o as_o so_o great_a a_o number_n may_v excuse_v the_o delay_n if_o they_o will_v have_v take_v long_o time_n to_o the_o bu●…nesse_n and_o certain_o it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d the_o conversion_n of_o these_o man_n be_v so_o sudden_a one_o will_v think_v 〈◊〉_d apostle_n will_v have_v wait_v for_o a_o trial_n and_o proof_n of_o their_o sincerity_n if_o so_o be_v such_o a_o trial_n and_o proof_n have_v be_v by_o christ_n institution_n necessary_a to_o go_v before_o the_o admission_n of_o man_n into_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n which_o act_v and_o direct_v the_o apostle_n do_v dictate_v they_o no_o such_o thing_n in_o like_a manner_n the_o samarit●…_n man_n and_o woman_n be_v baptize_v without_o any_o delay_n act_v 8._o 1●_n so_o simon_n at_o that_o same_o tim●_n albeit_o to_o that_o very_a day_n he_o have_v be_v a_o sorcerer_n dement_v that_o people_n with_o his_o devilish_a enchantment_n and_o with_o sacrilegious_a impiety_n give_v himself_o out_o as_o the_o great_a pow●…_n of_o god_n yet_o as_o soon_o as_o be_v convince_v by_o th●_n sight_n of_o miracle_n he_o profess_v the_o christian_a faith_n be_v baptize_v by_o philip._n final_o whosoever_o be_v baptize_v by_o the_o apostle_n that_o we_o read_v of_o be_v baptize_v after_o this_o same_o manner_n nor_o can_v there_o be_v give_v from_o scripture_n so_o much_o as_o one_o instance_n of_o any_o one_o man_n who_o profess●…g_v the_o faith_n and_o desire_v the_o communion_n of_o th●_n church_n be_v refuse_v baptism_n for_o a_o time_n until_o he_o shall_v give_v a_o trial_n and_o evidence_n of_o the_o si●…erity_n of_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n in_o his_o heart_n section_n 12_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o john_n baptist_n and_o the_o apostl●…_n add_v the_o practice_n of_o jesus_n christ_n himself_o it_o be_v worthy_a of_o observation_n say_v mr._n baxter_n well_o against_o tomb_n pag._n 127._o that_o it_o be_v say_v john_n 3._o 26._o he_o baptize_v viz._n by_o the_o ministry_n of_o his_o disciple_n and_o all_o man_n come_v unto_o he_o whereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o baptize_v man_n present_o and_o without_o delay_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o come_v and_o profess_v themselves_o his_o disciple_n shall_v we_o then_o miserable_a man_n not_o content_a with_o our_o lord_n example_n take_v upon_o we_o to_o be_v more_o severe_a and_o exact_a in_o his_o matter_n then_o himself_o very_o i_o can_v look_v upon_o this_o too_o great_a diligence_n but_o as_o a_o counsel_n of_o man_n pride_n shuffle_n itself_o in_o under_o a_o mask_n of_o purity_n ●…d_v accuracy_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o god_n section_n 13_o what_o further_o may_v be_v except_v against_o this_o argument_n build_v upon_o that_o ground_n whereon_o as_o a_o sufficient_a qualification_n christ_n his_o apostle_n and_o john_n baptist_n admit_v person_n to_o baptism_n i_o know_v not_o unless_o some_o haply_o will_v say_v that_o baptism_n do_v not_o constitute_v one_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o reverend_a hooker_n contend_v in_o a_o large_a dispute_n suru._n p._n 1._o c._n 4._o pag._n 55._o &_o seq_fw-la and_o that_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n and_o to_o be_v admit_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o one_o and_o the_o same_o thing_n and_o that_o more_o may_v be_v require_v as_o a_o necessary_a antecedent_n qualification_n to_o this_o then_o be_v to_o that_o but_o as_o to_o this_o exception_n 1._o i_o yield_v that_o baptism_n in_o itself_o give_v not_o the_o be_v of_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o that_o one_o must_v be_v first_o a_o member_n thereof_o de_fw-la jure_fw-la which_o we_o say_v be_v give_v by_o such_o external_a profession_n as_o we_o have_v describe_v before_o to_o man_n of_o year_n and_o to_o infant_n by_o federall_a holiness_n derive_v from_o their_o parent_n otherwise_o baptism_n can_v not_o constitute_v one_o a_o member_n nevertheless_o we_o hold_v this_o for_o certain_a that_o baptism_n be_v the_o ordinary_a ordinance_n whereby_o solemn_a admission_n and_o initiation_n into_o actual_a communion_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v perform_v neither_o since_o the_o time_n that_o baptism_n be_v institute_v can_v their_o be_v show_v in_o scripture_n either_o precept_n or_o example_n of_o any_o external_a way_n or_o mean_n of_o admit_v member_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n beside_o baptism_n further_o let_v i_o ask_v of_o the_o adversary_n that_o they_o will_v produce_v from_o the_o holy_a scripture_n a_o instance_n of_o any_o one_o man_n who_o be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n be_v not_o present_o and_o ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la esteem_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n they_o can_v it_o be_v a_o thing_n unheard_a of_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n therefore_o it_o be_v clear_o evident_a that_o upon_o what_o condition_n man_n be_v admit_v to_o the_o laver_n of_o baptism_n that_o same_o be_v account_v qualification_n sufficient_a in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la to_o constitute_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o how_o gross_a a_o absurdity_n in_o theology_n be_v it_o to_o say_v that_o a_o man_n though_o orderly_o baptize_v and_o no_o new_a impediment_n interveening_a yet_o be_v not_o a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o hence_o it_o shall_v follow_v that_o a_o baptize_v christian_a even_o after_o he_o be_v such_o be_v yet_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n among_o these_o that_o be_v without_o pagan_n and_o infidel_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 12._o for_o there_o the_o apostle_n divide_v the_o whole_a satitude_n of_o mankind_n into_o these_o two_o class_n of_o those_o that_o be_v within_o and_o 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v without_o and_o as_o by_o these_o that_o be_v within_o he_o understand_v such_o as_o be_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n who_o also_o he_o call_v brethren_n v._o 11._o so_o by_o those_o who_o be_v without_o he_o understand_v infidel_n who_o he_o call_v the_o man_n of_o the_o world_n v._o 10._o this_o much_o for_o our_o first_o argument_n section_n 14_o arg._n 2._o if_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n have_v not_o give_v to_o any_o man_n or_o society_n of_o man_n upon_o earth_n judiciary_n power_n authoritative_o judicial_o and_o positive_o to_o pronounce_v sentence_n touch_v the_o inward_a spiritual_a condition_n of_o all_o man_n profess_v true_a christian_a religion_n and_o submit_v themselves_o to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n whether_o they_o be_v regenerate_v or_o not_o then_o it_o can_v be_v by_o christ_n institution_n a_o necessary_a qualification_n requisite_a to_o the_o admit_v of_o person_n into_o the_o outward_a fellowship_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o they_o be_v in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la judge_v true_o convert_v and_o regenerate_v but_o the_o former_a be_v true_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o latter_a the_o connexion_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v evident_a of_o itself_o as_o to_o the_o assumption_n let_v it_o be_v note_v 1._o that_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o a_o minister_n have_v power_n from_o god_n with_o ministerial_a authority_n to_o determine_v doctrinal_o and_o in_o thesi_fw-la man_n regenerate_v and_o in_o the_o state_n of_o grace_n and_o reconciliation_n or_o unregenerate_a and_o as_o yet_o in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n according_a as_o they_o want_v or_o have_v the_o character_n of_o true_a regeneration_n and_o faith_n they_o have_v a_o warrant_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o pronounce_v all_o man_n that_o have_v never_o be_v humble_v before_o god_n for_o their_o sin_n that_o esteem_v not_o christ_n more_o precious_a than_o all_o thing_n beside_o in_o the_o world_n that_o walk_v not_o after_o the_o spirit_n but_o after_o the_o flesh_n etc._n etc._n to_o be_v unregenerat_a man_n and_o stranger_n from_o the_o life_n of_o god_n &_o contra_fw-la ●_o i_o grant_v that_o minister_n have_v power_n and_o authority_n to_o apply_v the_o general_a doctrinal_a sentence_n to_o particular_a person_n in_o ●…pothesi_fw-la but_o conditional_o who_o also_o they_o may_v and_o ought_v earnest_o to_o press_v to_o make_v positive_a application_n in_o their_o own_o conscience_n and_o as_o they_o perceive_v more_o
concern_v church-government_n and_o what_o be_v say_v for_o confirmation_n thereof_o i_o have_v be_v i_o confess_v well_o long_o upon_o the_o examination_n of_o mr._n lockiers_n lecture_n because_o i_o find_v not_o so_o clear_a and_o distinct_a handle_n of_o that_o matter_n in_o other_o as_o i_o can_v have_v wish_v and_o i_o think_v it_o expedient_a that_o in_o regard_n he_o speak_v with_o so_o great_a a_o deal_n of_o confidence_n in_o it_o and_o other_o make_v so_o much_o noise_n of_o it_o and_o this_o newfangle_n itching-eared_a age_n be_v ready_a to_o take_v with_o every_o new_a fancy_n busk_v up_o with_o gay_a word_n and_o like_o child_n to_o be_v carry_v about_o with_o every_o wind_n of_o doctrine_n in_o this_o regard_n i_o think_v it_o expedient_a the_o more_o full_o to_o discover_v the_o weakness_n and_o unsatisfactorinesse_n of_o his_o alledgeance_n therein_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v nor_o mind_n i_o to_o insist_v so_o large_o upon_o the_o appendix_n handle_v appendix_n i_o 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eldership_n i_o say_v it_o seem_v the_o author_n can_v conceive_v no_o other_o thing_n to_o be_v mean_v for_o he_o say_v it_o must_v be_v a_o eldership_n that_o have_v not_o eldership_n not_o and_o yet_o he_o himself_o above_o sect._n ●0_n such_o extraordinary_a elder_n may_v have_v their_o ordination_n from_o man_n &_o le_fw-fr facto_fw-la ma●hias_n have_v his_o so_o so_o that_o by_o this_o ●e_n ●ayeth_v here_o mat●ias_n though_o a_o apostle_n can_v not_o be_v one_o of_o this_o eldership_n ordination_n from_o man_n but_o this_o conceit_n be_v so_o abundant_o answer_v by_o mr._n gillespy_n of_o worthy_a memory_n miscell_n c._n 8._o pag._n 104._o &_o seq_fw-la that_o little_o need_v to_o be_v add_v to_o what_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d he_o i_o shall_v here_o brief_o touch_v at_o some_o particular●_n give_v in_o answer_n to_o this_o 1._o suppose_v the_o presbytery_n in_o this_o place_n 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o to_o be_v a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n yet_o nothing_o shall_v be_v gain_v thereby_o 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it_o have_v be_v a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n that_o have_v lay_v their_o hand_n on_o timothy_n and_o so_o join_v with_o paul_n in_o that_o action_n paul_n have_v not_o thus_o distinguish_v his_o lay_n on_o of_o hand_n from_o that_o of_o his_o fellow_n apostle_n as_o if_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v be_v give_v to_o timothy_n only_o by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o his_o hand_n and_o not_o by_o but_o with_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o fellow_n apostle_n of_o this_o difference_n of_o the_o phrase_n in_o the_o one_o text_n and_o the_o other_o see_v this_o same_o worthy_a author_n pag._n 101._o 2._o apostle_n and_o elder_n be_v ordinary_o distinguish_v name_n in_o scripture_n the_o latter_a signify_v the_o ordinary_a perpetual_a fix_a ruler_n in_o the_o church_n so_o that_o it_o must_v be_v but_o a_o devise_a fiction_n to_o leave_v the_o ordinary_a notion_n of_o the_o word_n elder_a which_o signify_v a_o office_n diverse_a from_o the_o apostleship_n and_o to_o take_v the_o eldership_n here_o for_o a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n nay_o we_o do_v not_o find_v at_o any_o time_n in_o scripture_n the_o name_n elder_a give_v to_o the_o apostle_n at_o least_o never_o to_o they_o or_o any_o of_o they_o as_o apostle_n contradistinguish_v from_o other_o officer_n it_o be_v true_a peter_n 1_o epist_n 5._o 1._o call_v himself_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o from_o that_o very_a appellation_n the_o worthy_a author_n we_o be_v now_o borrow_v from_o do_v excellent_o reason_n and_o for_o our_o purpose_n against_o mr._n locky_a here_o i_o need_v not_o transcribe_v his_o word_n see_v the_o book_n be_v common_a the_o reader_n may_v have_v recourse_n to_o itself_o and_o have_v much_o satisfaction_n see_v page_n 105_o 106_o 107._o
we_o conclude_v then_o and_o affirm_v that_o this_o eldership_n be_v no_o other_o but_o a_o assembly_n of_o elder_n as_o be_v these_o act_v 20._o 17._o ordinary_a elder_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o expound_v it_o of_o a_o assembly_n of_o extraordinary_a officer_n be_v but_o a_o fiction_n without_o ground_n in_o scripture_n devise_v by_o man_n to_o shut_v out_o clear_a light_n and_o mr._n locky_a may_v remember_v that_o as_o able_a judicious_a man_n as_o be_v of_o his_o way_n the_o dissent_v brethren_n in_o the_o assembly_n at_o westminster_n in_o their_o reason_n against_o the_o proposition_n of_o ordination_n take_v it_o to_o be_v a_o ordinary_a eldership_n and_o so_o reason_n from_o it_o to_o the_o regulate_v of_o ordinary_a ordination_n of_o elder_n in_o the_o church_n that_o a_o sufficient_a presbytery_n say_v they_o meaning_n as_o be_v evident_a a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n may_v assume_v all_o and_o sole_a power_n of_o ordination_n be_v prove_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o by_o the_o 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in_o elder_n but_o for_o a_o sole_a power_n of_o authoritative_a act_n in_o matter_n of_o government_n and_o not_o exclude_v or_o deny_v unto_o people_n a_o private_a judgement_n of_o discretion_n to_o try_v and_o prove_v the_o act_n thereof_o by_o the_o rule_n 2._o the_o author_n leave_v out_o some_o of_o the_o name_n and_o title_n give_v to_o the_o elder_n which_o use_v to_o be_v allege_v in_o this_o argument_n beside_o the_o name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elder_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d guide_n leader_n conductor_n governor_n heb._n 13._o 7_o 17_o 24._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o rom._n 12._o 8._o 1_o thessaly_n 5._o 12._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d government_n or_o governor_n the_o abstract_n be_v put_v for_o the_o concrete_a 2_o cor._n 12._o 28._o 3._o because_o the_o author_n be_v please_v to_o propound_v the_o argument_n from_o this_o ground_n in_o the_o soft_a way_n for_o his_o own_o advantage_n we_o 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and_o serve_v table_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v necessary_a some_o officer_n shall_v be_v ordain_v who_o be_v more_o proper_a and_o chief_a work_n it_o may_v be_v to_o see_v to_o that_o business_n yet_o certain_o the_o apostolic_a office_n contain_v in_o it_o eminent_o the_o power_n of_o all_o inferior_a officer_n in_o the_o church_n it_o be_v a_o act_n formal_o belong_v to_o their_o office_n and_o no_o question_n even_o after_o these_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v appoint_v particular_o to_o attend_v that_o business_n yet_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o then_o altogether_o cease_v from_o join_v in_o act_v thereanent_a where_o they_o may_v convenient_o without_o hinder_v their_o main_a work_n the_o preach_v and_o spread_v of_o the_o gospel_n section_n 8_o but_o in_o all_o this_o where_o be_v joint_a voice_n and_o suffrage_n of_o officer_n elder_n and_o brethren_n of_o diverse_a particular_a church_n commissionated_a to_o this_o work_n to_o make_v up_o this_o presbytery_n we_o speak_v of_o 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that_o the_o matter_n can_v be_v agree_v upon_o and_o determine_v among_o themselves_o when_o there_o be_v a_o appeal_n propter_fw-la malam_fw-la administrationem_fw-la vel_fw-la malam_fw-la administrationem_fw-la praesumptam_fw-la etc._n etc._n section_n 10_o final_o sect_n 46._o if_o the_o particular_a church_n have_v not_o be_v complete_a to_o do_v its_o own_o work_n without_o a_o foreign_a a_o associate_n eldership_n the_o apostle_n will_v have_v mention_v something_o of_o this_o combine_n of_o eldership_n and_o when_o this_o might_n be_v sure_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n dare_v not_o neglect_v the_o use_n of_o it_o and_o yet_o we_o find_v not_o the_o one_o and_o do_v find_v the_o other_o the_o apostle_n when_o he_o take_v his_o leave_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n commend_v it_o not_o to_o associate_v elder_n but_o both_o elder_n and_o people_n as_o one_o flock_n to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n act._n 20._o 32._o answ_n 1._o let_v it_o be_v so_o that_o the_o particular_a 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hold_v because_o bad_a man_n be_v in_o the_o church_n the_o general_a state_n of_o which_o in_o such_o a_o time_n of_o the_o world_n john_n speak_v of_o rev._n 11._o 1_o 2._o therefore_o they_o shall_v be_v there_o will_v not_o follow_v for_o then_o why_o be_v john_n bid_v cast_v out_o that_o which_o be_v without_o and_o not_o measure_v it_o what_o be_v allow_v to_o abide_v be_v rather_o the_o index_n show_v what_o be_v the_o allow_v and_o proper_a matter_n the_o true_a constitution_n of_o church-state_n answ_n here_o be_v a_o heap_n of_o thing_n to_o be_v note_v 1._o if_o that_o maxim_n hold_v good_a à_fw-fr facto_fw-la ad_fw-la jus_o non_fw-la valet_fw-la argumentum_fw-la because_o such_o thing_n be_v therefore_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v will_v not_o hold_v then_o mr._n locky_a your_o inductive_a argument_n for_o any_o thing_n allege_v in_o it_o fall_v to_o the_o ground_n without_o force_n for_o all_o that_o you_o have_v allege_v in_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o fact_n and_o 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this_o which_o be_v not_o infringe_v by_o what_o be_v say_v by_o mr._n locky_a here_o for_o ●_o when_o as_o he_o ●…yeth_v that_o they_o be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o of_o diligent_a inspection_n wa●…fulnesse_n heed_n take_v to_o the_o flock_n that_o none_o go_v astray_o for_o want_v of_o counsel_n 〈…〉_o consol●…_n 〈…〉_o whether_o be_v mean_n inspec●…_n 〈…〉_o over_o 〈…〉_o ●…hibiting_v reproof_n conso●…on_n 〈…〉_o a_o not-authoritative_a 〈…〉_o we_o have_v our_o point_n for_o 〈…〉_o by_o that_o name_n and_o the_o 〈…〉_o ●guished_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o 〈…〉_o that_o the_o power_n of_o r●…ing_n be_v only_o 〈…〉_o by_o they_o only_o if_o he_o say_v the_o late_a 〈…〉_o and_o 〈◊〉_d to_o every_o single_a believer_n 〈…〉_o 11_o 12._o coloss_n 3._o 16._o galat._n 6._o 1._o and_o 〈…〉_o may_v have_v the_o name_n of_o
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o as_o the_o 〈…〉_o spirit_n of_o god_n give_v it_o to_o elder_n as_o contradi●…_n 〈…〉_o from_o single_a believer_n but_o also_o from_o the_o whole_a ●lack_a 〈…〉_o ●hy_a will_v the_o spirit_n of_o ●od_n give_v thi●_n name_n to_o elde●…_n 〈…〉_o ●…guished_v from_o the_o whole_a flock_n if_o thereby_o be_v 〈…〉_o out_o wha●●is_fw-fr common_a competent_a 〈…〉_o and_o aught_o to_o be_v ●one_n by_o every_o single_a 〈…〉_o locky_a reckon_v up_o the_o act_n whereby_o the_o 〈…〉_o be_v to_o 〈◊〉_d the_o flock_n that_o none_o so_o far●_n 〈…〉_o none_o 〈◊〉_d ●…presseth_v some_o only_a and_o 〈…〉_o ●…der_a a_o etc._n etc._n i_o will_v ask_v he_o 〈…〉_o beside_o 〈…〉_o express_v do_v he_o intend_v by_o that_o 〈◊〉_d here_o be_v understand_v exercise_n of_o discipline_n and_o censure_n 〈◊〉_d ●…ons_n go_v astray_o or_o ●one_n astray_o if_o otherwise_o they_o can_v 〈…〉_o or_o reclaim_v and_o reduce_v i_o believe_v they_o must_v by_o this_o me●…_n 〈…〉_o by_o these_o express_v take_v heed_n that_o none_o go_v astray_o 〈…〉_o ●nd_v be_v not_o this_o not_o only_a a●_n act_n of_o government_n but_o even_o of_o corre●…ve_a jur●…diction_n o_o but_o may_v he_o say_v they_o be_v not_o to_o do_v this_o ●ct_n by_o themselves_o but_o to_o have_v a_o care_n that_o it_o be_v do_v by_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o church_n but_o i_o pray_v how_o by_o tell_v the_o offence_n of_o 〈…〉_o the_o church_n or_o give_v joint_a vote_n as_o other_o professor_n in_o the_o 〈…〉_o it_o come_v under_o public_a cognizance_n and_o judgement_n ay_o 〈…〉_o ●his_fw-la may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o author_n way_n by_o any_o other_o professor_n in_o the_o church_n beside_o the_o elde●_n ●nd_v so_o nothing_o be_v leave_v to_o they_o in_o regard_n of_o which_o that_o name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v be_v more_o pecu●…ar_n to_o they_o than_o any_o other_o professor_n section_n 11_o the_o a●…_n 〈…〉_o ●…seers_n and_o 〈…〉_o ●…thers_n as_o 〈…〉_o ●…ked_v in_o 〈…〉_o ●…her_o which_o 〈…〉_o ●en_z rather_o 〈…〉_o ashi●…_n his_o dis●…_n 〈…〉_o and_o s●l●_n 〈…〉_o be_v so_o rule●_n 〈…〉_o but_o 〈…〉_o to_o th●_n ch●…_n 〈…〉_o that_o t●_n th●…_n 〈…〉_o ●…y_o o●_n 〈◊〉_d ●…d_n 〈…〉_o and_o 〈…〉_o but_o 〈…〉_o as_o a_o brother_n 〈…〉_o the_o 〈…〉_o or_o in●…_n 〈…〉_o ●…y_o to_o con●…_n 〈…〉_o of_o rule_v and_o go●…_n 〈…〉_o power_n nor_o alone_o to_o exercise_v 〈…〉_o ●…in_v con●…ction_n 〈…〉_o shep●…_n 〈…〉_o ●…cive_a that_o mr._n locky_a as_o he_o 〈…〉_o so_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o th●_n 〈…〉_o only_o of_o the_o church_n be_v so_o call_v 〈…〉_o the●_n only_o ●ut_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o prof●…_n 〈…〉_o in_o the_o power_n and_o act_n o●_n ru●…_n 〈…〉_o it_o i●_n 〈◊〉_d to_o give_v the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈…〉_o of_o 〈◊〉_d as_o much_o and_o much_o ●ore_o o●_n 〈◊〉_d thing_n 〈…〉_o ●hem_fw-mi it_o be_v true_a indeed_o that_o elde●_n 〈…〉_o shall_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o professor_n but_o 〈…〉_o in_o another_o thing_n than_o that_o power_n which_o be_v signify_v by_o the_o 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escape_n of_o the_o printer_n only_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o the_o place_n be_v ●ust_z so_o print_v in_o the_o reason_n of_o 〈◊〉_d dissent_v brother_n against_o the_o assembly_n 3._o proposition_n concern_v presbyterial_a government_n whence_o th●●…thor_n ●orrow●…_n i●●…re_o 1_o tim._n 1._o 17._o where_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o ●he_v 〈…〉_o be_v the_o printer_n section_n 5_o anoth●…_n ground_n 〈…〉_o it_o be_v not_o bare_a labour_v in_o the_o word_n in_o a_o place_n th●…_n 〈…〉_o elder_n ●a●_n i_o conceive_v that_o formal_o constitu●…_n and_o 〈◊〉_d one_o a●_n elder_a but_o be_v over_o they_o fix_v and_o 〈…〉_o such_o a_o station_n over_o they_o and_o then_o where_o this_o be_v pi●ched_v 〈…〉_o ●…is_fw-gr ●…nds_v his_o work_n of_o conduct_n and_o discipline_n 〈…〉_o th●…_n it_o be_v not_o bare_a labour_v in_o the_o word_n in_o a_o place_n 〈◊〉_d constitu●…_n and_o denom●…tes_v a_o elder_a or_o minister_n 〈…〉_o ●he_v word_n in_o a_o place_n such_o labour_a 〈…〉_o no●_n call_v to_o that_o work_n and_o 〈…〉_o of_o christ_n but_o it_o be_v as_o true_a that_o n●…_n 〈◊〉_d be_v 〈…〉_o commission_v to_o such_o a_o station_n i_o to_o such_o 〈…〉_o that_o note_n he_o or_o constitute_v he_o a_o minister_n 〈…〉_o be_v which_o note_n and_o constitute_v a_o minister_n 〈…〉_o according_a to_o th●_n order_v institute_v by_o christ_n 〈…〉_o with_o office_n to_o 〈◊〉_d the_o gospel_n and_o to_o dispense_v 〈…〉_o which_o off●…_n 〈◊〉_d ●…ally_a 〈◊〉_d be_v in_o 〈…〉_o ●…ely_o and_o ●is_fw-la fi●ing_v to_o 〈…〉_o not_o make_v he_o a_o minister_n bu●_n only_o 〈…〉_o ●o_o ●u●h_v a_o congregation_n for_o the_o const●…_n and_o 〈…〉_o see_v this_o we_o say_v 〈◊〉_d ●…dantly_o demonst●…_n 〈…〉_o h●dso●_n vindi●_n of_o the_o ess_n and_o unity_n etc._n etc._n c._n 6._o pag._n 138_o 〈…〉_o the_o three_o thing_n he_o br_v be_v th●…_n 〈…〉_o key●…_n viz._n of_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n 〈…〉_o distinguish_v ye●_n 〈…〉_o divide_a chris●_n 〈◊〉_d ●…oined_v and_o 〈…〉_o together_o but_o to_o 〈◊〉_d where_o w●e_n be_v 〈…〉_o be_v to_o divid●…_n 〈…〉_o ●ow_o ●ell_o christ_n ●…ll_v ●…ke_v 〈…〉_o how_o well_o man_n 〈…〉_o s●verall_a hundred_o 〈◊〉_d ●…ars_n in_o blood_n and_o tyranny_n have_v sh●w●d_v 〈◊〉_d a●sw_n 1._o the_o key●…_n o●_n doctrine_n and_o discipline_n be_v not_o so_o 〈…〉_o ●on_v from_o another_o as_o the_o author_n by_o his_o big_a word_n w●uld_v 〈◊〉_d his_o reader_n in_o hand_n 1._o in_o the_o very_a 〈◊〉_d or_o actus_fw-la prim●…_n they_o be_v separate_v the_o rule_v elder_n ●ath_v the_o key_n of_o jurisdiction_n or_o discipline_n and_o exercise_v it_o but_o not_o the_o key_n of_o doc●…ine_n 2._o eve●_n where_o they_o be_v soyn_v together_o in_o habit_n they_o be_v divide_v and_o separate_v in_o act_n the_o pastor_n of_o a_o congregation_n when_o he_o ●…cheth_v do_v not_o e●…cise_a discipline_n nor_o when_o he_o exercise_v discipline_n or_o jurisdiction_n do_v he_o at_o that_o same_o time_n teach_v yea_o further_o h●_n may_v and_o do_v teach_v alone_o but_o he_o 〈…〉_o j●…diction_n alone_o but_o in_o combination_n and_o in_o colleg●…_n with_o uther_n obj._n but_o they_o be_v divide_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o object_n by_o th●_n presby●erian_n way_n the_o pastor_n in_o the_o associate_n presbytery_n 〈◊〉_d ●urisdiction_n over_o they_o who_o he_o do_v not_o teach_v and_o ch●i●…_n 〈…〉_o join_v they_o together_o in_o thi●_n relation_n that_o t●…_n one_o 〈…〉_o ●…cised_a towards_o any_o but_o to_o 〈◊〉_d the_o oth●…_n be_v also_o 〈…〉_o author_n indeed_o say_v so_o that_o christ_n ●…th_v appoint_v 〈…〉_o bring_v a_o place_n of_o scripture_n 〈…〉_o the_o place_n by_o he_o here_o 〈…〉_o put_v home_o this_o to_o the_o author_n 〈…〉_o can_v exercise_n rule_v only_o in_o relation_n 〈…〉_o where_o he_o be_v fix_v to_o preach_v ordina●…y_o b●…ause_n 〈…〉_o to_o divide_v th●_n key_n which_o he_o allege_v to_o ●e_v even_o in_o the_o 〈…〉_o ●o_o tie_v together_o a●●e_n have_v say_v but_o i_o ask_v he_o 〈…〉_o preach_v the_o gospel_n 〈◊〉_d other●_n then_o of_o his_o own_o 〈…〉_o by_o go_v 〈…〉_o admit_v th●…_n to_o 〈…〉_o to_o the_o 〈…〉_o the_o lord_n 〈◊〉_d to_o 〈…〉_o way_n 〈◊〉_d this_o he_o deny_v wit●_n 〈…〉_o of_o christian_n 〈◊〉_d of_o these_o of_o one_o single_a 〈…〉_o public_a ordinanc●…_n of_o jesus_n christ_n if_o he_o grant_v it_o than_o he_o divide_v the_o key_n which_o 〈◊〉_d ●…yes_v christ_n have_v tie_v together_o section_n 6_o as_o to_o his_o bloody_a word_n 〈◊〉_d like_o many_o other_o in_o this_o his_o little_a piece_n a_o groundless_a ●…ander_n there_o have_v not_o ●een_n several_a 〈◊〉_d of_o year_n since_o that_o way_n of_o government_n ●…ch_o we_o sta●d_a 〈◊〉_d by_o christ●_n 〈…〉_o associate_v presby●…s_n be_v 〈…〉_o the_o christian_a 〈◊〉_d which_o for_o many_o hundred_o of_o year_n wa●●…bed_v thereof_o by_o po●…s_n and_o papal_a prelate_n and_o since_o by_o th●_n 〈◊〉_d a-mercy_n it_o wa●_n restore_v to_o the_o church_n it_o have_v be_v a_o bl●…d_a mean_a where_o it_o have_v have_v place_n to_o preserve_v the_o church_n of_o jesu●_n christ_n but_o for_o blood_n if_o he_o mean_v shed_v of_o blood_n by_o i●_n it_o be_v ●ot_n a_o very_a bloody_a slander_n to_o attribute_v this_o to_o it_o and_o for_o tyranny_n i_o think_v no_o man_n qui_fw-fr non_fw-fr perfric●it_fw-fr fronte●_n can_v say_v it_o be_v a_o way_n of_o itself_o inclinable_a to_o that_o when_o as_o the_o very_a constitution_n of_o it_o be_v to_o 〈◊〉_d to_o person_n allege_v themselves_o wrong_v and_o possible_o wrong_v indeed_o by_o the_o sentence_n and_o judgement_n of_o a_o small_a judicatory_a a_o way_n of_o recognition_n and_o relief_n by_o a_o large_a associate_v judicatory_a if_o this_o be_v a_o way_n in_o itself_o inclinable_a 〈◊〉_d ●…anny_n i_o confess_v i_o see_v not_o but_o we_o may_v as_o w●ll_n say_v that_o ●…ard_n be_v d●…ward_a and_o dounward_a be_v upward_o but_o now_o to_o w●_n the_o exercise_n o●_n the_o key_n so_o together_o and_o in_o so_o narrow_a b●und●_n as_o mr._n lock●…_n will_v have_v they_o that_o be_v to_o say_v so●…_n 〈◊〉_d of_o ●n_a eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n together_o wi●h_v their_o people_n 〈◊〉_d be_v 7_o 10_o or_o 20_o person_n that_o they_o be_v make_v the_o 〈…〉_o ecclesiastical_a on_o earth_n and_o there_o may_v be_v no_o 〈…〉_o of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o a_o authoritative_a 〈…〉_o any_o wrong_n whatsoever_o they_o m●y_v do_v 〈…〉_o and_o truth_n in_o their_o dogmatic_a det●rm●…ations_n o●_n in_o their_o 〈…〉_o censure_n upon_o person_n if_o this_o be_v no●_n a_o wa●_n 〈…〉_o tyranny_n yea_o and_o looseness_n and_o con●usion_n 〈…〉_o l●t_o any_o man_n of_o common_a sense_n judge_v 〈…〉_o proof_n even_o a_o few_o year_n have_v give_v of_o th●_n 〈…〉_o ●ell_o who_o ma●_n 〈◊〉_d see_v it_o and_o what_o tru●_n chri●…_n 〈…〉_o it_o without_o b●e●…ng_a heart_n and_o weep_a eye_n 〈…〉_o a●_n this_o day_n section_n ●…_n examination_n of_o mr._n lockier_n 3_o medium_fw-la pursue_v in_o section_n 38_o and_o 39_o section_n 1_o his_o three_o medium_fw-la to_o 〈◊〉_d that_o a_o presbytery_n havin●●ower_n of_o jurisdiction_n over_o 〈◊〉_d congregation_n than_o on●_n be_v 〈◊〉_d device_n of_o man_n and_o not_o a●_n ordinance_n of_o god_n be_v that_o 〈◊〉_d destroy●…●he_fw-mi end_n for_o which_o church_n power_n and_o jurisdiction_n be_v &_o to_o which_o it_o pretend_v in_o the_o prosecution_n whereof_o ●t_a be_v a_o matter_n of_o wo●d●r_n ●o_o see_v what_o confusion_n looseness_n of_o reason_v and_o i_o may_v say_v also_o none-sense_n there_o be_v it_o be_v not_o worth_a the_o while_n to_o insist_v on_o ●he_n observation_n of_o every_o particular_a th●…●ight_n ●e_v observe_v in_o sum_n he_o bring_v three_o consideration_n to_o make_v 〈◊〉_d out_o that_o such_o presbytery_n destroy_v or_o allude_v the_o end_n of_o church_n power_n and_o jurisdiction_n to_o which_o it_o pre●…ndeth_v one_o i●_n in_o sect._n 38._o two_o other_o in_o the_o follow_a section_n section_n 2_o first_o these_o sojourn_v eldership●_n sojourn_v eldership_n we_o know_v not_o what_o nor_o where_o 〈…〉_o many_o associate_a co●…_n 〈…〉_o in_o common_a while_o thus_o pretend_v 〈…〉_o like_o the_o lapwing_n ●aw_v off_o 〈…〉_o their_o young_a my_o meaning_n be_v 〈…〉_o it_o take_v off_o people_n 〈◊〉_d that_o which_o 〈…〉_o groun●…_n may_v warr●…_n 〈…〉_o a_o riddle_n to_o 〈…〉_o what_o 〈…〉_o pronoune_n their_o relate●_n 〈…〉_o to_o the_o lapwing_n or_o to_o the_o peop●…_n 〈…〉_o of_o they_o be_v say_v i_o cann●…_n 〈…〉_o again_o for_o that_o which_o 〈…〉_o etc._n etc._n wh●…_n 〈…〉_o congre●…tion_n 〈…〉_o sterie_n tak●…_n 〈…〉_o of_o 〈…〉_o or_o in_o 〈◊〉_d busine●…_n of_o comm●…_n 〈…〉_o controvert_v 〈…〉_o and_o that_o not_o to_o 〈…〉_o and_o ●ow_o 〈…〉_o author_n 〈…〉_o end_n i_o 〈…〉_o then_o 〈…〉_o of_o 〈…〉_o on_o to_o 〈…〉_o follow_v section_n 3_o 〈…〉_o have_v many_o 〈…〉_o which_o be_v 〈…〉_o then_o 〈…〉_o of_o a_o congr●…ion_n
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