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A66481 The judgment of the foreign reformed churches concerning the rites and offices of the Church of England shewing there is no necessity of alterations : in a letter to a member of the House of Commons. Willes, John, 1646 or 7-1700. 1690 (1690) Wing W2807; ESTC R8187 45,548 70

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p._n 36._o in_o scotland_n the_o presbyterian_o administer_v the_o solemn_a league_n and_o covenant_n to_o the_o people_n and_o make_v they_o swear_v never_o to_o hear_v the_o orthodox_n ministry_n more_o and_o give_v they_o the_o sacrament_n thereupon_o ravil_n rediu._n p._n 29._o the_o like_a be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v late_o do_v at_o northampton_n and_o some_o other_o place_n and_o how_o have_v they_o behave_v themselves_o in_o this_o juncture_n we_o may_v take_v it_o from_o one_o of_o the_o great_a promoter_n of_o alteration_n in_o his_o letter_n for_o the_o bill_n of_o union_n p._n 4._o i_o do_v own_o that_o in_o some_o of_o the_o dissenter_n there_o be_v more_o than_o a_o appearance_n of_o aversion_n to_o this_o bill_n of_o union_n or_o else_o book_n level_v against_o liturgy_n and_o episcopacy_n will_v not_o come_v out_o as_o they_o do_v in_o this_o p_o juncture_n fresh_a from_o the_o press_n in_o a_o word_n there_o be_v two_o thing_n that_o have_v former_o make_v the_o 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