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A41439 A full survey of Sion and Babylon, and a clear vindication of the parish-churches and parochial-ministers of England ..., or, A Scripture disproof, and syllogistical conviction of M. Charles Nichols, of Kent ... delivered in three Sabbath-dayes sermons in the parish church of Deal in Kent, after a publick dispute in the same church with the said Mr. Charles Nichols, upon the 20. day of October 1653 / by Thomas Gage ... Gage, Thomas, 1603?-1656. 1654 (1654) Wing G111; ESTC R5895 105,515 104

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one gi●ted with the Indian tongues may be ordained and sent to preach to the Indians before any Election for how shall they Elect who are not yet baptized 3. Ans. Thirdly I answer that Election gives the Essence as he is their Minister but Ordination gives the essence as he is a Minister For Ordination doth invest a Minister with power to act beyond those who have called and chosen him giving him an habitual power in actu primo to exercise and perform the acts belonging to his office elsewhere upon a call and choice as the Canon saith Semel expositus semper expositus so likewise semel Ordinatus semper Ordinatus Once set apart to preach and ordained alwayes set apart to preach and alwayes ordained Yea I may say a Minister beareth an habitual relation to the whole Church visible So that a Pastour preacheth not onely as a Pastour to those who Elected him and to other Churches as a gifted brother I dare boldly affirm that in the Apostles times and in the purest ages next them this notion was never heard So Act. 13. Paul was ordained as a Pastour to preach any where and not appropriated by Election to any particular place In the 68. Can. Apost one Presbyter once ordained lawfully is forbidden to be ordained again which shews that he was ordained as a Pastour and Officer to the whole Church 5. Object What the Ministers are to the people now under the Gospel the Levites were formerly to the Iews But then the people ordained the Levites and put their hands upon them as appeareth Num. 8. vers 10. Ergo Now the people also may ordain the Ministers 1. Ans. First I answer If we must stand to the old Policy why may not we as well say that the Civil Magistrate may also ordain as Moses did Aaron Levit. 8. vers 10 11 12 13 14. 2. Ans. Secondly I answer with what is noted in the 11. verse of the 8. of Numbers quoted And Aaron shall offer the Levites before the Lord that they may execute the service of the Lord. Aaron was to wave those Levites before the Lord so that they were not compleated to execute the service till the Priest had done his Act. So the peoples 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 there did but answer to the peoples 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or stretching out their hands in the new Testament Aarons waving them did answer to our 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or laying on of hands Thus beloved I have answered some of the chief Objections for Popular power in the Keyes and by strong Arguments shewed that this power is not in them but in the Ministers Successours of the Apostles to whom the Keys were delivered first by Christ. I shall add but one reason or two more to confirm this my Opinion and so conclude with this first errour practized in Mr. Nichols his Church or pretended house of God 3. Argument If the Election of the people doth give the essentials to an Officer then may a man elected execute all Official power without ordination and that commonly But no man may execute Official power and that commonly without ordination Ergo Election doth not give the essentials By essentials here I mean the formal cause for as for the material c●use they cannot give that and we have but two causes that do dare essentiam though all four do dare esse The consequence is clear that they may execute all Official power without ordination for forma dat operari But Election gives the form say the Separa●ists and ordination at most with them is but an Adjunct effects do not depend upon Adjuncts For operation the form gives that The Minor That they may not execute all official power without ordination is clear For the contrary is cross to Scripture presidents and we see if it were but a Deacon yet he was ordained Act. 6. vers 3 6. Then surely Election of the people doth not give the essentials to an Officer And that ordination is no Adjunct two remarkable places of Scripture do shew it clearly The first is from 2 Tim. 2. vers 2. The things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses the same commend thou to faithfull men who shall be able to teach others also The 2. place is this from 1 Tim. 5. v. 22. Lay hands suddenly on no man neither be partaker of other mens sins keep thy self pure From whence I reason thus Timothy is a Church Officer here is a charge given him to take heed who comes into the Ministery yea he may be partaker of other mens sins if he have not a special care whom he admitteth into the Ministry Now these Texts do not belong to the people but to Ministers and to Officers such as was Timothy which makes me think that what the Ministers do in examining trying ordaining is more than the peoples Election Where do we finde such things spoken to the people Now then where the greatest blame lies for unworthy mens coming into the Ministery there surely must ly the greatest power of admitting men into the Ministery else the blame is not just But we see the blame is here laid upon the Ministers Paul no where writes to the people To commit the things they have heard nor doth he charge them not to lay on hands suddenly At most they are bid indeed to look out men for Deacons but that doth not answer these Texts But if the great stroak the formal cause lie in the popular Election the Ministers may well say we do but ordain we give but an Adjunct the people did the main Act they give the essence The essence being given we give the Adjunct So that there will be no blame left for the Ministers I would be glad to see some Answer from Mr. Nichols either by private writing or publickly in print to these reasons and Arguments which till I see them answered I shall resolve to continue still in this judgement to blow my Trumpet lowder and lowder to cry down more and more this practise in Mr. Nichols his Congregation not onely as erroneous but as Babylonish and Antichristian it being expresly against the word of God in many places of Scripture And thus whilest he seems to affect Popularity giving to the people more than to the Ministery for his ordination for his examining for his trying and for the judging of his gifts and calling he plainly crosseth that esteem and respect which God in Scripture alloweth to Ministers and their approbation which he hath setled in his word by several examples for the better knowing and judging of mens gifts lights and callings as I shall shew in these remarkable and undeniable place● of the holy writ The first is from the 1 Sam. 3. Chap. where we read that Samuel being yet young and not as yet acquainted with any light or Revelation from Heaven and sleeping near unto his Master Eli in the night God gave him a call vers 4. which young Samuel
would not be said to be void and forfeited because in part he renounceth that which hath troubled his Conscience in the performing of it Even so the first Reforming Presbyters Priests or Bishops who had received power by the Commission of their Ordination to Preach and to Pray and to administer the Sacraments and also to say Mass and in the Mass to offer up a Sacrifice when the true light of the Gospel and Reformation began to shine upon their Consciences were by the Spirit moved to renounce some part of their power as not belonging to them to wit the Mass and Sacrifi●e and to continue and keep the other part of their power and Commission to wit Preaching Praying and Administring the Sacraments as belonging to them by their Commission from Christ when by Ordination the power of the Keyes was committed unto them And who will say that because they renounced unlawfull power therefore their lawfull power was forfeited and made void and null either in themselves to practise it or towards others to communicate it to others by right true and lawfull imposition of hands as Christ ordained Object But this Objection against our Ministery and our lawfull succession is much like to that of Rome against us saying that the Ministers of the Reformed Churches had no Commission or lawfull calling being under the Pope and Popish Prelates to reform the Church and so think and judge our Separatists that our Commission being void and all power to ordain and to Reform the Church is fallen to the people Ans. To whom I answer with Morneus his answer to the Papists Objection against our Reformers at the first beginning of Reformation That the calling of our first Ministers which reformed the Church in these last times was the same vocation and succession w●ereof they themselves do brag but the same vocation which they abused have our men indeavoured to use well and to that vain succession wherewith they decked themselves they have added the succession of true Doctrine which they had corrupted without which all succession is nothing else but a continuing of abuse and errour Wickliff Ion Hus Luther Zwinglius Oecolampadius Bucer and others of that School from whence the Ministers which have gathered Churches from under Antichrist are descended were Priests as they call them and Doctors in Divinity As Priests and Pastours they had charge to preach the truth unto the people and to Administer the Sacraments unto them according to the Institution of our Lord. As Doctors they were called to expound Divinity in their readings and in their books and they were bound by the ordinary Oath of all Universities to declare the truth unto the Church to confute all Doctrines repugnant against the word of God and with all their might to expell it Now in their time they sound that the word of God was hid unto the people that the honour which was due to God alone was turned to men and to images that the bloud of Christ was trodden under foot that the Sacrament of the Supper was partly turned into Idolatry and partly denied unto the poor people To be short that all the holy Scripture was prophaned and poysoned with the Popes gloss and Popish interpretations And when they shewed these things to the Bishops and Metropolitans according to the order of their Church they made no reckoning of them they were the first that persecuted them because they themselves were the infected part of the Church I ask therefore if their vocation commanded them not to go farther to wit to preach the truth unto the people and purely to administer the Sacraments And if they had done otherwise whither they had not been forsakers of their calling contemners of their Oath made unto God and abusers of the people Both two therefore our Popish Adversaries and our first Ministers had one and the same ordinary and outward calling But herein is the difference that that which ours have followed the others have forsaken that which ours have done of duty by reason of their charge the other have concealed Ours have led their sheep upon the Mountains of Israel into good pastures Ezek. 34. the others have devoured them or else left them for a prey to the beasts of the field or else driven them to the Fens Marishes where they have starved A Magistrate shall be called to the Government of a Common-wealth where he shall finde the good Laws corrupted by the negligence or malice of those that went before his Courts full of injustice the Officers subject to factions briberies and corruptions and he would reform all this and bring it to the censure of the Laws He that will further now ask him by what right he doth this should he not make himself a laughing-stock because he follows step by step his calling He hath not sworn to maintain abuses but rather to maintain the Laws and to provide every way that he can for the good and preservation of the Common-wealth But what an absurdity would it be to say that this Magistrate hath forfeited his Commission and power because he thus reforms the Courts and the Common-wealth to w●ich he is sworn and to judge his power now lapsed into the peoples hands because he reforms abuses Even so likewise have our fi●st Ministers done first requiring reformation and afterwards putting too their hands according to their duty And if we could ask the Apostles who are their true succ●ssours They would not tell us such as have a Triple Crown or such a Cope or such a Miter but those that preach the word of God after our example At the preaching of these first men the Pastour of the Churches were awakened in England in Bohemia in Germany in Scotland in Denmark in Swedenland and afterwards many in France and these were sent to bethink them of their duty Consequently some whole Realms were reformed the very Bishops themselves that there had preached lies preached the truth in the self-same Church and Pulpit and they with their reformed Presbyters ordained others to preach and pray to Administer the Sacraments according to Christ his word truely revealed to these Pastours and fi●st Reformers And now for their good and Godly indeavours shall our Separatists like Papists question their calling Judge their power and Commission void null our succession from them and preach our Ordination down as lost and ruined either in time of Popery or by these our first Reformers It is an opinion or errour with laughing to be exploded But to draw to an end I shall briefly answer to that part of our Adversaries Argument and Objection against our Ministers They were Ordained by Bishops say they Ergo They are Babylonish First by way of answer I desire to know what these men think of Mr. Bradford and the rest of those holy Ministers and Martyrs ordained by Bishops in those dayes Were they Antichristian and Babylonish Ministers But secondly The Bishops which ordained our Ministers since the Reformation were not
ye retain they are retained John 20. vers 21 22 23. And again Go ye theresore and Disciple ye all Nations and lo I am with ye allway even to the end of the World Math. 28. vers 19 20. Thirdly Christ being the wisdom of the Father Colos. 2. vers 3. and faithfull as was Moses in all his house yea more faithfull Moses as a servant over others he as a Son over his own house Hebr. 3. vers 2 5 6. It cannot stand with his exact wisdom and fidelity to commit the grand affairs of his Church Government to such as are not duely gifted and sufficiently qualified by himself to the due discharge thereof Thus you have the Major cleared and the Minor will as easily appear evident thus First The Scriptures teach that gifts for Ministery and Government are promised and bestowed not on all but on some particular persons onely in the visible body of Christ. To one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom to another the word of knowledge c. not to all 1 Cor 12. vers 8.9 seq If a man know not how to rule his own house how shall he take care of th● Church of God 1 Tim. 3. vers 5. The Hypothesis insinuates that all men have not gifts and skill rightly to rule their own houses much less to govern the Church Secondly Experience tells us that the multitude of the people are generally destitute of such knowledge wisdom prudence learning and other necessary qualifications for the right carrying on of Church Government Ergo Christ makes not the Community of the faithfull the first subject of the power of Church Government But this truth will yet more clearly appear by answering the Arguments and Objections of those who stand so much for Popular power and Government 1. Object First They Object thus To whom Christ gave all power to them it chiefly and primarily belongs But Christ gave all power to the body of the Church which is the Community of the faithfull Ergo To the Community of the faithfull all power belongs chiefly and primarily The Minor they prove from the Apostle Whither Paul or Apollo or Cephas or the world or life or death or things present or things to come all are yours 1 Cor. 3. vers 22. from whence they conclude that Paul Apollo Cephas and their successours in the Ministery belong to them and are under their power and Order Answ. To which I answer that Christ gave all power to the body of the Church finaliter objective finally and objectively that is for their use and benefit for their service and salvation So that if the Ministers preach administer the Sacrament exercise the power of the Keyes it is all for the good and benefit of the faithfull Community they are the Object they are the end the Ministers aim at in the work of the Ministery But we are not theirs so as to be of their making and Authorizing Church power is first seated in Christ the head and Apostle of our profession and from him committed to his Apostles and from them to the Presbytery and Ministers They commit the same to others which themselves had first received But according to that known rule Nemo dat quod non habet No man can give to another that which himself hath not first received Therefore the people which never received Orders nor power to administer the word Sacraments and Keyes how can they bestow it on others This is besides all Scripture and reason 2. Object Christs Disciples ar● Christs Church But Christs Ministerial power is given to Christs Disciples Ergo Christs Ministerial power is given to his Church Proved from Math. 16. vers 13.20 Ans. In this Argument is changed the Copulative which ought not to be in a true Syllogisme But these Popular men may as well break the rules of art as the Faith of truth Again This cunning Sophister useth deceit in the word Disciples which he expounds by this Argument to be other than Apostles or such as were Disciples sent forth to preach when the place of Math. 16. vers 13.18 is evidently against this For he cannot prove at this time any to be with Christ but the twelve as may appe●r by Luke As he was alone praying his Disciples were with him and ●e asked them saying whom say the people that I am Luke 9. vers 18. Neither doth the place of Mathew say that these Disciples are Christs Church as this Sophister maketh shew but rather the 18. verse in that place of Math●w manifesteth that Christ made himself a difference between t●e Disciples in the Person of Peter and the Church both which are there distinctly mentioned at the most they be but part of Christs Church and not the whole Church and then so meant this Argument gaines nothing For the Copulative Is given it is to be taken two ways Primarily and Immediately or Secondarily and Mediately If it be taken in the first sense and the word Disciples also for the Apostles then it is for us and against this Sophister If in the second sense and the word Disciples taken for the whole Church then I grant all for I confess the powe● of Christ to be given to the Church Mediately that is as I said before unto others for the Churches b●hoose and benefit If the Sophister understand it to be given Primarily to the whole multitude I deny it as utterly false till he can prove that by Disciples in Math. 16. vers 13 20. is meant the multitude which he calls the Church and not onely the Apostles 3. Object The wife hath power immediately from the husband and the body hath power immediately from the head But the visible Church or a Communion of fai●hfull people are Christs Spouse the wife of the Lamb and Christs mysticall body as appeareth Ephes. 5. vers 30 32. and Ephes. 1. vers 22 23. and Revel 21. vers 2. Ergo The visible Church or Communion of faithfull ones have Christs Ministerial power immediately from him Ans. There is more in the C●n●lusion than in the premises for there is the word Ministeriall which is in neither of the former propositions as in right arguing it ought to be lt is no Syllogisme and the Argument is but a similitude which may illustrate an approved truth but proves not nor gives resolution to a doubting minde much less decides our our Cause in hand 4. Object One Relate gives the Essentiall Constituting cause to another But Pastor and People are Relates Ergo The People give to the Pa●tor the Essentia● Constituting causes of ● Pastor 1. Ans. I answer first with Mr. Rutherfo●d that Ordination doth first make a Minister and Election after doth not make him a Minister but onely doth appropriate him to such a place and to such a People 2. Ans. Secondly I answer that in many cases Ordination may go before Election The Apostles were Ordained and sent before they were appropriated by any peculiar people So in the India's
understanding to have been from Eli he ran unto him and said Here am I vers 5. To whom the Priest replying I called thee not ly down again Samuel had no sooner returned to his rest and shut his eyes but God gives him a second call And Samuel arose again and went to Eli and said Here am I for thou didst call me And he answered I called not my Son ly down again vers 6. The third time he went to his rest and it is observed in the 7. verse that Samuel did not know the Lord neither was the word of the Lord yet revealed unto him But in the 8. verse The Lord called Samuel again the third time and he arose and went to Eli and said Here am I for thou didst call me And Eli perceived that the Lord had called the Childe And then Eli instructed him what he should do saying Go ly down and it shall be if he call thee that thou shalt say speak Lord for thy servant heareth vers 9. And so he did the fourth time that the Lord called him then he knew his call to be from Heaven and answered unto the Lord as the Priest had instructed him Now what from hence I observe is that God might the first time have spoken and revealed unto Samuel what he did after without three several returnings to the Priest telling him at the first It is not Eli that calleth thee but I but he would not as ancient Writers observe because God would have Samuel go the right way to work being young and not yet acquainted with lights and Revelations he would have him go to the Priest that he might instruct him what to do and that the Priest might judge of his light and calling A good example in Scripture for men in these times to know that if any must try and judge their lights their Revelations their calls and gifts they must not be the people but the Ministers And therefore Mr. Nichols surely is much deceived in giving to the people and slighting in the Ministers that which God would have Samuel acknowledge fitter for Eli to try and judge his call from Heaven than for the people But least it should be answered that this was the old Policy but the New Testament allows no such Doctrine nor respect or duty to Ministers more than to the Community of the faithfull I shall with the new Policy under the Gospel prove the like In the 8. of Acts Luke tells us what happened to the Eunuch who riding in his Chariot read that part of the Prophesie of Isaiah He was led as a sheep to the slaughter and as a Lamb dumb before the shearers so opened he not his mouth In the mean while The Angel of the Lord spake unto Philip saying Arise and go towards the South unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza vers 26. When Philip was come to the place Then the Spirit said unto him Go near and joyn thy self to this Chariot and Philip came thither to him and heard him read the Prophet Isaias and said understandest t●ou what thou readest And he said How can I except some m●n should guide me And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him vers 29 30 31. Philip answered his desire and went up to the Chariot and taking occasion of the Prophecy he was reading instructed him so far i● the Mysteries belonging unto Iesus Christ that he truely believed and was baptized I observe also from hence what hidden Mystery may be here that the Angel who instructed Philip what he should do and observe is not allowed by Gods permissi●n to instruct the Eunuch in the points of faith but Philip a Church Officer must do it And the very same may be observed in the History which Luke also relates Act. 10. of Cornelius the Centurion a Religious man given to prayer and Alms-deeds yet wanting more instruction in the Mysteries of the Faith of Iesus Christ to whom God sends an Angel vers 5 6. who said unto him Send men to Joppa and call for one Simon a Tanner he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do Why might not this Angel also who spake to Cornelius or some of the Community of the faithfull thereabouts if they had the power of the Keyes instruct Corne●ius while he stayes sor the coming of the Apostle but Peter an Officer of the Church must do it he must instruct guide and convert him Austin his answer is that God would teach us herein that he hath not appointed us Angels for our Instructers Masters and Leaders nor any other to tell us of lights Rev●lations gifts and callings but hath left us Officers of his Church to do this work and far●her that so far we are to believe Angels if they should speak unto us as here to Cornelius and such lights as they should reveal unto us as they may be examined tried judged whither they be true ●ights or strong delusions from Sathan who often times transfigures himself into an Angel of light by such as Philip was as Peter was by Officers of the Church and true Ministers of the Gospel to whom and to no other Christ hath committed the power of the Keyes Yet further A●stin observes from Act. 9. what Christ himself answered Saul vers 6. when he said Lord ●hat wilt thou have me to do And the Lord said unto him Arise and go into the Citie and it shall be told thee what thou must do Who must tell Saul what he must do who must try examine and judge of his calling who must instruct him who can instruct him better than Christ himself who is talking with him Yet Ananias a Church-Officer in the judgement of many very grave Divines must do it To him he is sent but not to the whole Community of the faithfull to judge of the light which compassed him about in the way to Damascus to examine the Revelation he had there Nay Christ would remit him to his Officer in his Church to shew that this is the ordinary way of Government by himself left to his Church that not the people but his Ministers by virtue of the power of the Keyes shall try and examine gifts and callings and such as they finde true by the Touch stone of the word to allow and admit such into the Church and to 〈◊〉 belonging to Church Government And without this trial by Church Officers and Ministers I cannot safely judge Mr. Nichols a true Pastour of a Church while preferring the people before the Ministers and taking orders from them he slights the ordinary way of Christ for Church Government and those Officers whom God hath shewed us to be respected And thus beloved I have shewed unto you the first errour and untruth meerly Antichristian practised in Mr. Nichols his Church which he calls Gods house which cannot be Gods house being the Pillar and Ground of the Truth and yet there the Truth of Ordination according to the Scripture is
by reason of their corruptions And if not lost in them then in them it still continued and if it continued in them then still in them there was by vertue of their true Ordination for substance potestas in and potestas ad a power in in themselves to preach and to pray still and a power to or towards to or towards others to communicate this power by imposition of hands to others to other Ministers and Presbyters in whom neither could Ordination for subs●ance be lost for their superstitions and corruptions could not make void null the Acts of Office belonging to them from a Root and Fountain without and Authoritatively derived to them from the first Institution of Christ and from their Ordination by imposition of hands by the former Presbyters still true for substance And if their Superstitions and corruptions could make Ordination void and null the Superstitions and corruptions of the former should also have made it void and so it must be said to decay in the first in whom it decayed not they having been rightly ordained for substance before their fall apostasie Now the Superstitions corruptions of those that succeeded the first were in kinde of the same nature and quality with those that were found in the first and so they could not being the same in kinde and nature do more then the first no● make void and null that Ordination for substance which the first corruptions in the first Apostates never made void and null So that in those Presbyters who succeeded the first back-sliders there was also potestas in and potestas ad power in themselves to preach and to pray and power to or towards others to communicate this power by imposition of hands to others And so in them neither could ordination for substance still right die or decay And so successively ordination for substance continued true notwithstanding the corruptions and evil qualities of Officers till the glorious light of Reformation began again to shine As in a wall which on● day is seen and known by the colour of a white plaistering over it but the next day is found with another colour even dawbed over with black yet still continues in the substance of the stones and other materials to be the same wall the black dawbing or any other paintings not being so destructive as to destroy the substance of the wall Even so Ordination as a strong wall to the Church of Christ though at first in the pure and Primitive times it was observed and known by the true white colour of Imposition of hands by the Presbytery with fasting and prayer without any Oyls or dawbing ointings and Chrisms by praying and preaching onely without that black corruption and Superstition of Mass-mumming or paintings of an unbloudy Sacrifice yet continues and then continued true for substance and was not quite destroyed or abolished by the colours of Rites and Superstitious Ceremonies put upon it by corrupt Bishops Presbyters who lived in England in the height of Pope y and Romish Superstition And thus as I have looked back to the beginning of Popery and there have found no nulling no destroying of true Ordination for substance nor any decay or loss of it in the succ●ssion of Presbyters following and succeeding untill the Reformation Let us now take a view of the first Reformers who were ashamed of the former corruptions and Apostasies who left off Mass-mumming and offering an unbloudy sacrifice in the Mass and let us now see whether in them continuing Preaching and praying Ordination for substance were lost and decayed so that in them there remained not still potestas in and potestas ad power in in themselves to Preach and to Pray and power to or towards others to communicate to other Presbyters by Imposition of hands the same power to pray to Preach the word and to Administer the Sacraments Object It may be Objected and said of them that they being Ordained to the Mass as well as to Preaching Praying and Admistring the Sacraments could not Ordain others to Preaching and Praying and Administring the Sacraments onely unless they Ordained them to what themselves had been Ordained to wit to Sacrifice also and to the Mass because their power reached to the latter as well as to the former And so the Ministers succeeding them and yet not truely Ordained to the same full power of Massing and Sacrificing to which they that Ordained them had been themselves Ordained but being Ordained to one part onely of their power to wit to Preaching and Praying and Administring the Sacraments and not to Sacrifice and the Mass were not truely Ordained because the first Reformers had shaken off and renounced their own full power which themselves had received by abjuring the Mass and Sacrifice to which their power reach●d and so could communicate no power to others but in that fulness of power for kinde and nature which themselves had formerly received Ans. To the which Objection I answer with this plain and easie instance of a Justice of the Peace now amongst us whose former power was onely to Administer Justice and to act by Law against Delinquents and Offenders binding them over to the Sessions or committing them to the Gaol or Prison But now to this his power is further added by an Act of Parliament another power to joyn in the State of Marriage such as shall come before him to be married and to declare them Man and Wife giving them his Certificate that they are truely and lawfully coupled together in the State of Matrimony If now a Justice of the Peace should make a scruple of doing this as some I hear already do his Conscience telling him that Marriages have for many years in all sorts of Churches yea in the best Reformed Churches alwayes belonged to the Ministery as an Ordinance of God though not as a Sacrament as Rome ●ea●eth and for that Matrimony is an honourable estate in its Relation to Christ the husband and the Church his spouse Eph. 5. Chap. and not rashly to be undertaken but with grounds reasons and Scripture to be laid up●n cleared to the Parties that are to be Wedded and that with good counsel Admonition and prayer to God for a blessing upon the Parties to be ma●●ied for the better knowing their duties each to the other better performing those duties and for the better guiding their lives in love peace and unity for the time to come If I say upon these grounds acknowledging himself unlearned in the Scriptures unfit for such good counsel instruction and Admonition having not a Spirit of prayer for such a purpose he should renounce that power given unto him to joyn Man Wi●e together and should absolutely refuse to practise it any longer as not belonging to him according to the Dictate of his Conscience Yet the other part of his Power to Administer Justice against Offenders would still continue in force his Power Authority and Commission for that
many Councels before as the Popes Supremacy denied and decreed against by the Councel of Calcedon Africk Milevi Constantinople and Basil The second Councel of Ethesus approving Eutyches and the Councel of Calcedon condemning him The second Councel of Nice maintaining the worshipping of Images and that of Franck Ford assembled about the same time by CHARLES the Great pulling them down The first Councel of Nice permitting the marriage of Ministers according to the use of the Primitive Church and the Councel of Neocesa●ea and Mentz and the second of Carthage forbidding it and particularly in England having shewed a party dissenting from the Pope almost three hundred years ago in the very height of Popery here in the Raign of Edward the third in whose time God raised up Iohn Wickliff a Professour at Ox●ord to hold out the light of the Gospel so as many in those dayes were much enlightned thereby For among other Principles wherein he instructed the people then these were some directly against the Church of Rome 1. The Eucharist after Consecration is not the very body of Christ but figuratively 2. The Church of Rome is not the head of all Churches more than any Church is Nor hath Peter any more power given of Christ than any other Apostle hath 3. The Pope of Rome hath no more in the Keyes of the Church than any other within the order of Priest-hood 4. The Gospel is a rule sufficient of it self to rule the life of every Christian here without any other rule 5. All other rules under whose observances divers Religious persons be governed do add no more perfection to the Gospel than doth the white colour to the wall Having I say thus shewed him the height of Popery in and out of England and still a party dissenting from the gross errours of Rome and in them a light of a Church and people of God he aiming at those abominations brought in and setled as he imagined without any party dissenting from the Councel of Trent as from other Councels would needs frame his Argument from Queen Maries dayes thus 1. Object In Queen Maries dayes there were no Churches in England Ergo Now Parochial Churches are Babylonish The Argument beloved concludes nothing in the consequence for suppose there had been no Church or people professing the truth doth it therefore follow Ergo now there can be no Parochial Churches He might as well have argued thus People in Queen Maries dayes believed not Ergo People now do not believe Or People then were Papists in England Ergo now they are not Protestants and then what shall we say of Mr. Nichols his believing people Even such is this Argument In Queen Maries dayes there were no Churches Ergo now Parochial Churches are Babylonish But to let my Opponent go on with more such Enthymema's I denied his Antecedent shewing him that in Queen Maries dayes there was a glorious Church of believers who witnessed their Faith with the bloud of Martyrdom as the Stories tell us of Cranmer Brad-ford Taylor Yea some tell us of eight hundred innocents whose lives in the space of less than four years that cruel Popish Queen sacrificed unto her idols Yea such was the abundance of true believers and Protestants in those dayes that as a fruitfull Vine they were spread abroad also into Germany Sweden Denmark and a Church of English true believers was apparent at Frankford from whence came Godly Bishops that setled our Churches in Queen Elizabeths time But then he went on a little more Schollar like in suiting his consequent with his Antecedent though still fallaciously thus 2. Object In Queen Maries dayes Parochial Churches were Babylonish Ergo Now Parochial Churches are Babylonish I might well have granted here his Antecedent for ought any true illation from it to these times it proving nothing but that we must needs be now as our Fathers were in those dayes which is a false illation for though there were no Churches then there may be Churches now though Parochial Churches then were Babylonish yet Parochial Churches now may not be Babylonish neither qua as Churches neither qua as Parochial As Churches the people being converted As Parochial it having been already shewed that Parishes as Parishes were no invention of Antichrist which distinction Mr. Nichols all along his Arguments and answers seems much to mistake or forget varying these terms as he pleaseth sometimes insisting upon the word Churches as when the Argument of the ancient Coustitution of Parishes before Antichrist convinced him he then falls to the word Churches qua as mixed Congregations So here from Churches in Queen Maries dayes he falls to Parishes in Queen Maries dayes But to try further what this Monster would bring forth In Queen Maries dayes Parochial Churches were Babylonish Ergo now Parochial Churches are Babylonish I distinguished the Antecedent to that word Churches supposing what was left behinde as Parishes they were not Babylonish They were Babylonish or Popish generally I denied the Antecedent They were Babylonish or Popish as the whole Land wherein were some Protestants in all corners dissenting from Babylonish and Popish principles I granted the Antecedent And this beloved I doubt not but it will appear unto you most true that where eight hundred in less than four years suffered Martyrdom they were not all taken out of one Parish but out of several Parishes in the Land and seco●dly that where so much bloud of holy Protestant Martyrs was shed it would prove as Cyprian saith Sanguis Martyrum semen Ecclesiae The bloud of Martyrs is the seed of the Church by whose sufferings the Professours of the true Gospel grew and increased more and more and so not the whole Parishes or Parochial Churches would be infected with Papacie but as was the Land and Kingdom not generally or in all but in the major part at most Thus I can further prove unto you Protestants to have been then in Parishes from the instance of a Parish not far from us in this part of Kent where I am informed by a Neighbour of this Parish that he often heard his own Father relate from his Grand Fathers mouth that in Queen Maries dayes there lived in that Parish a Priest named Stacie and that many times his Father and his Fathers Brothers going to Church and observing M. Stacy his superstitious ceremonies in the Church and at the Altar would go home to their Father telling relating to him Father Mr. Stacie in the Church doth sprinkle his face with water makes crosses with his fingers upon his fore-head knocketh his breast and prayes kneeling before the pictures and the like To whom his Gran●-father would reply My Children though Mr. St●cie do such things you must beware of them you must not do the like you must not pray to images but to God neither must you learn such Ceremonies and Superstitions of Mr. Staci● Whereby beloved you may perceive that in those Marian dayes all were not infected with Papacie but
he in his private discourse brought no such Scripture to prove somewhat though nothing denied by me while I asse●t single Parishes to be true Churches and herein I hope I dissent not from the Reverend Presbyters whose Zeal in these troublous dayes I admire whose Godliness and profund Learning I cordially acknowledge and with reverence respect But secondly what from the word Angel I observe is that not many Angels are written unto in so many single Congregations but one onely Angel is named to one onely Angel the writing was directed though in several Churches of that Citie according to the number of them there were several Pastours also from whence I gather that the Discipline in that Citie was so Presbyterial that over all the single Congregations there was some one over●seeing power whether by the name of Bishop or Superintendent as to this day in Swedland and Denmark or some chief Provincial Classis wherein was some chief Moderatour governing with Presbyters Officers Teaching and Ruling Elders to whom in particular Iohn is commanded to write concerning all the other Churches making up as integral parts that one Church of Ephesus But thirdly the holy Spirit of Christ is pleased to stile also single Congregations Churches which my Caviller seems to deny as you may observe in these places Let your Women keep silence in the Churches 1 Cor. 14. vers 34. where note that several single meetings Societies and Congregations making up one Church of Corinth are called Churches and oftentimes mention is made of the Church that is in such or such a House as Rom. 16. vers 5. 1 Cor. 16. vers 19. Coloss. 4. vers 15. Philem. vers 2. whether this be interpreted of the Church made up onely of the Members of that Family or of the Church that ordinarily did meet in such houses with a particular Teacher in that place it implies however a single Congregation and to my purpose such a single Congregation is called Church which it seems is the main point that my Caviller stumbles at who further told me that I could not maintain Parishes to be Churches nor any single Congregations to be Churches but in an Independent way the contrary whereof I shall prove thus briefly in a Presbyterial way The Presbytery grants that many single Congregations as parts make up one Classis or one Provincial Church Ergo Those many single Congregations are true Churches which thus I prove If any thing oppose their true being of Churches it must be according to my Caviller because they are but parts of a Church or body made up by them But their being parts of a Church or body made up by them doth not oppose their true being of Churches Ergo single Congregations are true Churches The Minor proposition I prove thus They are such parts of the whole Church or body made up by them as do partake the nature of the whole But the whole body made up by them is a true Church Ergo The parts and single Congregations making up that whole body are also true Churches The Major or first Proposition I prove thus They are not Heterogeneal parts but Homogeneal parts making up the whole partake the nature of the whole Ergo They are such parts of the whole as do partake the nature of the whole And then But the whole is a true Church Ergo Parishes and single Congregations as Homogeneal parts partaking of the nature of the whole which is a true Church are also true Churches Which beloved that you may the better understand I shall clear it with an instance of Heterogeneal and Homogeneal parts First In mans body the parts making up a compleat body of man are the Head the Shoulders the Arms Hands Leggs and the like Of these parts we cannot say The head is truely the body the Arm is the body the Legg is the body because they are Heterogeneal parts of several natures not partaking the nature of the whole nor of the body But secondly in the Sea or Ocean the parts making up the whole Sea or Ocean are many drops of water which are called Homogeneal parts parting the nature of the whole whose nature is water and every drop of water is as true water as the whole Ocean and of every part or drop it may be said It is water as of the whole it may be said It is water For Homogeneal parts are parts of the same kinde and nature But such parts are single Congregations or single Churches and Parishes making up a Classis or Provincial Church for it cannot be said of many of them that the one is a part as the Head the other as the Arm the other as the Hand or Legg making up that body as Heterogeneal parts of several and distinct natures Ergo They are Homogeneal parts and as the nature of the whole is to be a Church so likewise the true being and nature of these is to be Churches But further This whole Church or Provincial body made up of many single Congregations is Predicable of many inferiours it being as Generical or Specifical in respect of many particulars But such Generical or Specifical Predicates are predicable of inferiours of their own kinde Ergo The inferiour and subordinate Congregations to to this Provincial body are of the same kinde and nature of the whole and of the superiour which being a true Church the inferiours are also true Churches As Man Specificable is Predicable of this Individual of that Individual Man and the other Individual all which Individuals and particular Inferiours agree with the Superiour and common Species in the kinde nature and self-same being of Man Thus having answered this scruple and having fully laid down my judgement against Mr. Nichols his first erroneous Assertion That Parochial Churches are Babylonish and having proved that they are neither Babylonish in their Constitution as Parishes nor in the end of their Constitution or division into Parishes nor in their mixture of good and bad nor to be denied to be true Churches as subordinate to higher Classes I shall hereafter commit to the Press and publick vieu of the World this my judgement delivered here unto you as not ashamed of the Gospel of Iesus Christ nor of any truth belonging unto it And I shall desire Mr Nichols if in case he shall reply that he will answer positively first to my grounds and Arguments in form as I have here laid them down by Syllogismes granting denying distinguishing taking notice of the Authority of the Scriptures expounding them if he can better than my self have done and then to make use of his fair Speeches and Orations by adding what he can to disprove my judgement and to clear his own better than upon the day of our Dispute he did otherwise to expect no second reply from me In the mean while I shall pass on to his second Assertion in the which he affirms that his Congregation is the house of God First I shall lay down and repeat unto
too late in the judgement of the most Judicious Auditors who took special notice of it retracted what he had before said and whereas he had denied that the people were not the first subject of the power of the Keyes now he granted it that they were not the first subject And so being wearied with my Arguments that had so by degrees stole upon him to his disadvantage he would needs fall to reasons to shew that Ordination consisted chiefly in the Election of the people But I said to Mr. Nichols Sir give me no reasons but shew me Scripture for what you say as I have shewed you I am sure for the peoples Election to be true Ordination you can shew me but three places which I will name unto you the first is Act. 1. vers 23. the second is Act. 6. vers 3. the third is Act. 14. vers 23. and these do speak but darkly for your purpose but I have shewed you eight places for Ordination by Imposition of hands by the Presbytery which are more in number and far more clear But yet Mr. Nichols presuming to make somewhat of it or to please somebody at the latter end of our dispute waving the two first places offered to him by my self for his advantage made choice of the third place Act. 14. vers 23. where from the Greek word he presumed the people are said to stretch out their hands whilest the Apostles ordained them Elders in every Citie which was no Imposition of hands but if spoken of the people an allowing onely of and a consenting to what the Apostles did which I told him was a common action in people to lift up their hands by way of consent and hereupon I told him he should finde that I had the consent of the people of Deal to be their Minister which I desired you to shew by lifting up your hands which I thank you you did cheerfully and unanimously perform But observe I beseech you beloved this place of Act. 14. v. 23. whereon Mr. Nichols would so fain build popular Election as the essential part of Ordination In that place you may observe that it is plainly spoken of Paul and of Barnabas two Apostles ordaining Elders with prayer and fasting which commonly accompanied the Act of Ordination by Imposition of hands as you may see Act. 13. vers 3. Now if this place tells us that the two Apostles ordained what can Mr. Nichols prove from hence for his popular Election But he saith from the Greek word that the people stretched out their hands Ergo They ordained I answer first that the peoples action here if he will have it to be understood of the people which I absolutely deny is expressed onely by this word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifies a stretching out the hands but it is not said to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is a laying on of the hands used in many more places than this as I have shewed him from Act. 6. vers 6. Act. 13. vers 3. Hebr. 6. vers 2. 1 Tim. 4. vers 14. and 1 Tim. 5. vers 22. ●itus 1. vers ● in all which places laying on of hands is expressed and not stretching out of hands And therefore if from this place he will conclude any thing for the people he must not from hence prove a popular and people fancying Ministe● making this place to preponderate more and weigh down Imposition of hands by the Presbytery because as much as he can make of this place though I understand it not so as I shall shew presently here the people joyed in allowed off consented to those Elders ordained by the Apostles by the action of stretching out their hands Upon which place Reverend Mr. Diodati of Geneva speaketh thus When they had ordained The Italian reads wh●n they had by common votes ordained with the approbation and consent of the Churches to whom this right was anciently preserved even from the Apostles time for the Government of the Church was not founded upon constraint nor violence but upon a voluntary obedience These are the very true expressions of Mr. Diodati which agree with what we read in Act. 6. vers ● Look ye out among you s●ven men of honest report full of the holy Ghost and wisdom whom we may appoint over this business There the Apostles allow the people their consent and approbation for chusing Deacons but this is not enough The Apostles they must appoint them and lay hands on them to ordain them as you may read in the 6. verse whom t●●y set before the Apostles and when they had pr●●ed they laid their hands on them Whence I conclude that the chief and ●ssential part to ordination r●quired is the laying on of hands by the Presby●ery till which be done the peoples consent and approbation conferreth nothing And so Mr. Nichols can truely glory of no Orders with his poor peoples consent till he bow his neck to this Principle of the Doctri●e of Christ Imposition of hands by the Presbytery ●ill which time he can be no true Minister of Iesus Christ nor lawfully administer as he doth the Sacrament of the Lords supper and baptisme For no Minister no Sacrament and where Sacraments are thus with Vzzahs impure hands touched and administred the high crying sin of Sacriledge abounds for which I fear the Lord will yet have a controversie with this Land But secondly Having given to Mr. Nichols though as I said before it is not my judgement upon the place as much as the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in this place of the 14. of Acts can allow him for a popular consent which neither in England is denied for commonly Ministers before they be first ordained have the consent of the people for su●h or such a Parish I must now further let Mr. Nichols know from this place that the best Divines do not understand the word here in the Greek to belong to the people but to the Apostle● whose laying on of hands is expressed by a word more commonly signifying a stretching out of the hands I may well stretch out my hands and yet not lay them upon any bodies head but I cannot lay my hands upon any bodies head without I stretch them out So the Apostles whilest they laid their hands upon those whom they ordained did truely stretch out their hands and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 being of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth extensio manuum not elevatio manuum a lifting up of the hands which is the common action used to express a peoples free consent But it is plain from the whole context that the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 was no Act of the people at all who did not in that place so much as lift up their hands for consent The whole context is of Paul and Barnabas They strengthened the Souls of the Disciples vers 22. They ordained they prayed they commended the people to the Lord vers 23. Besides had it been any Act
of the people the Text would ●av● declared it thus unto us 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and when they had ordained to themselves Elders and not as it is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 when they had ordained them Elders as speaking of others Mr. Selden hath a large discourse in his book de Syned●iis veterum Hebraeorum shewing that the word signifies to Elect Decree Ordain and is to be understood of the Apostles Act in this place and not of the peoples What comfort then can Mr. Nichols have from this place especially if he understand Greek and the whole context and from those many more produced by me and unanswered by him to satisfie his conscience when thus by Scripture he is fully convinced to be no lawfully ordained Minister of Iesus Christ Which was the first thing I discovered by Argument against his Church or Congregation that it was not the house of God not being the pillar and ground of the Truth where the Truth of Ordination according to the word of Christ and the practise of the Apostles so much faileth and is by him opposed Thus far beloved my Arguments reached upon the day of our dispute against Mr. Nichols his second Proposition And seeing we are come to this main point of the controversie of these times concerning popular Election and Ordination and popular Government in the Church which popular men too much affecting popularity for their ends to draw away our people from our Churches have devised and of late stirred up I shall yet a little more inlarge my Judgement and Discourse for the better resolving a doubt so necessary in these times to be unfolded This Monstrous opinion can plead no Scripture except those three places by me above rehearsed out of the Acts of the Apostles To that whereon Mr. Nichols leans I have answered as also to that of Act. 6. Chap. where although the people look out honest men for Deacons yet the Apostles appoint them over that business and to that ordain them by Imposition of hands which sheweth more than a meer looking out for them and approving or allowing of them The third place is out of Act. 1. vers 23. They appointed two Joseph called Barsabas who was surnamed Justus and Mathias From whence some of the separation will settle Ordination upon the people because in this peculiar work the people were joyned with the Apostles But observe first from this place that there the Electours were eleven Apostles to guide the other But Mr. Nichols will allow those to chuse him who have no Officer to guide them amongst whom no doubt but there are very many weak persons Secondly It was very easie to chose one of these two Ioseph or Mathias who had accompanied with the Apostles all the time that Jesus went in and out among them vers 21. This was easie to know But to chose a man fit for a Pastour requires more skill than so Thirdly In this Election God was peculiarly seen the Apostles not knowing who it should be Fourthly in vers 26. They gave forth their lots and their lots fell upon Mathias They that will make any thing of this place may as well make casting of Lots an Essential to Ordination as give this power to the people who were never constituted appointed or ordained by Christ to be either the proper first or immediate subject of the power of the Keyes which I shall indeavour to clear thus unto you That which is the first subject is the proper subject No doubt of this But the proper subject is reciprocated and convertible with his Accident As for example A living Creature is the proper subject of sense and feeling A man is the proper subject of laughing or laughter And from hence we say reciprocally Every man is Risible and Every thing that is Risible is a man Every living Creature hath sense and feeling and so likewise Every thing that hath sense and feeling is a living Creature This is called Axioma 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 But every Axiome that is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 doth include in it the Rule 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 where the Predicate is true of the subject in all place and at all time This is true of a living Creature and feeling of a Man and Risibility And so if the people or the Fraternity be the proper subject of the power of the Keyes It must be true that they are and have been the proper Subject of the power of the Keyes omni tempore omni loco in all places and at all times But if we finde the power of the Keyes exercised in time before there was a Christian Fraternity then certainly there was some other subject of the power of the Keyes in whom this power was as in a proper subject When Paul came to Corinth he preached Authoritative and with power and Commission E●go Then the power o● the Keyes was in some ●ubject but the Fraternity at that time was non En● had no being in Christianity How then could they be the subject And if then they were not the subject how can they now be the proper subject of the power of the Keyes who were not in all place and time the proper subject of it Yet Mr. Nichols could grant that the people were the subject the proper subject and the fi●st subject of the power of the Keyes But he ●ruely might as well have granted that in these times Man is the proper subject of Risibility but was not alw●yes and that at some time Man was not Risible nor at some time a living Creature the subject of s●nse and feel●ng though now he be Bu● secondly This Absurdity will appear thus Those who are the effect of the power of the Keyes are not the fi●st subject of it But the Fraternity is the effect of the power of the Keyes It was so in all the Churches which the Apostles gathered and is indeed to this day So that which is primum Subjectum the fi●st subject is Immediatum Subjectum the immemediate subject But how can the Fraternity be the immediate subject of the power of the Keyes since then mediantibus Apostolis by means of the Apostles and now mediantibus Ministris by means of the Ministers the Fraternity is made up I but the Elector is before the Elected It is true of Christ who Elected the Apostles and gave to them the Keyes from whom by a continued succession of Ministers still the Fraternity was made But had not the power of the Keyes had some effect there had not been a Fraternity to chose an officer though they are now in time before him whom they now Elect Yet they were not before him or them qua Fratres who by the power of the Keyes in the Ministery made them capable to chose an Officer Therefore the power of the Keyes was in some subject before them Besides Election is no power of the Keyes Therefore to argue The people Elect ergo They are the first subject of the
power of the Keyes is fallacia non causae pro causa But if what hath been spoken will not convince Mr. Nichols that the people or Fraternity having no true power to Ordain he is no true and lawfull Minister Let him answer these Arguments from Reason Scripture and the best Divines that have written upon this p●int 1. Argument Whosoever are the first subject or immediate Receptacle of the power of the Keyes from Christ they have Divine Warrant actually to exercise and put in execution the said power as if a man be the first and immediate subject and Receptacle of Risibility or power of laughing he hath a faculty in him to exercise and put in execution his Risibility and so actually to laugh But the Multitude or Community of the Faithfull have no Divine Warrant actually to exercise and put in execution the power of the Keyes Ergo The Community of the faithfull are not the first subject or immediate Receptacle of the power of the Keyes from Iesus Christ. The Major Proposition must of necessity be yielded because first power of the Keyes contains both Authority and exercise power being given to that end that it may be exercised for the benefit of the Church It is called the power given us for edification 2 Cor. 10. vers 8. Where there is no exercise of power there can be no edification by power S●condly because both the Authority and compleat exercise ●f all that Authority were at once and together communicated from Christ to the Receptacle of the power I give unto thee the Keyes of the Kingdom of Heaven and whatsoever thou shalt binde on earth c. There goes together the giving of power and binding and loosing the exercise of that power Math. 16. vers 19. As my Father sent me so send I you Whose soever sins ye remit they are remitted John 20. vers 21 23. You see here both power and exercise joyned together in the same Commission Yea so individual and so inseparable are power and exercise that under exercise power and Authority is set forth Go Disciple you all Nations bap●izing th●m Math. 28. vers 18 19. Thirdly because it would be vain idle and impertinent to fancie and dream of such a power as should never be drawn into act by them that have it frustra est poten●ia quae non reducitur ad actum Thus the Major being cleared Let us now examine well the Minor by induction of particulars from whence we shall see it●is evident that the Community cannot exercise the power of the Keyes by any Divine Warrant First They may not preach for how shall they preach except they be sent Rom. 10. v●rs 15. But the Community cannot be sent many of them being uncapable of the Office either by occasion of their Sex 1 Cor. 14 vers 34 35. 1 Tim. 2. vers 11 12. or by reason of their age as Children and all or most of them by reason of their deficiency in gifts and in Scripture qualifications Titus 1. vers 9. and 1 Tim. 3. vers 10. For not one Member of a thousand are so compleatly furnished as to be apt to teach able to convince Gain sayers and to divide the word of truth aright Besides They may not send themselves were they capable for no man takes th●s honour to himself yea Jesus Christ himself did not glorifie himself to be made an High Priest Hebr. 5. vers 4 5. Now onely Officers are sent to preach Math. 16 19. and 28 19 20 vers 2. Secondly The Community may not administer the Seals the S●craments under the new Testament for who gave the people any such Authority Hath not Christ conjoyned preaching and dispensing of the Sacraments in the same Commission that the same Persons onely that do the one may do the other Math. 28. vers 18 19. 3. Thirdly They may not ordain Officers in the Church and Authoritatively send them abroad for ordinarily the Community have not sufficient qualifications and abilities for proving and examining of mens gifts for the Ministery They are no where commanded or allowed so to do in the whole new Testament but other persons distinct from them 1 Tim. 5. vers 22. 2 Tim. 2. vers 2. and Titus 1. vers 5. 4. The Community without Officers may not exercise any Office of Jurisdiction Authoritatively and properly they may not excommunicate or absolve for we have no precept that they should do it we have no example in all the New Testament that they ever did do it We have both precept and example that select Officers both did and ought to do it Whatsoever you binde o● earth saith Christ to his Officers shall be bound in Heaven Math. 18. vers 18. Whosoever ye remit c. Iohn 20. vers 21 23. I have decreed to deliver such an one to Satan saith Paul an Officer 1 Cor. 5. vers 4. The rebuke inflicted by many not by all 2 Cor. 2. vers 6. whom I have delivered to Satan 1 Tim. 1. vlt. vers 5. And lastly Because the Scriptures no where set the Community over themselves to be their own Church guides and Governours but appoint over them in the Lord Rulers and Officers distinct from the Community Compare these places 1 Tim. 5. vers 12. Act. 20. vers 28.29 Hebr. 13. vers 7 17 22. Salute all them that have the rule over you and all the Saints From all these premises I conclude Ergo The Community of the faithfull are not the first subject or immediate Receptacle of the power of the Keyes from Iesus Christ. And against the Communities power for Church Government I frame my second Argument thus 2. Argument whomsoever Christ makes the first subject of the power of Church Government to them he promiseth and give●h a spirit of Ministry and gifts necessary for that Government But Christ neither promiseth nor giveth a spirit of Ministery nor necessary gifts for Church Government to the Community of the faithfull Ergo Christ makes not the Community of the faithfull the first subject of the power of Church Government The Major is clearly proved For first As there are diversity of Ecclesiastical Administrations which is the foundation of diversity of Officers and diversity of miraculous operations and both for the profit of the Church So there are conveyed from the Spirit of Christ diversi●y of gifts free endowments enabling and qualifying for the actual discharge of those Administrations and operations as you may see 1 Cor. 12. vers 4 5 6. seq Secondly what instance can be given in the whole New Testament of any persons whom Christ made the Receptacle of Church Government but withall he gifted them and made his promises to them to inable them to such Government As the Apostles and their successours As my Father sent me even so send I you And when he had said this he breathed on them and sai●h unto them Receive ye the Holy Ghost Whos 's soever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them and whose soever sins
slighted It is not my custom in this place to particularize any mans defects and errours neither would I have done it now had not my Text called upon me to surround the bounds of Zion and Babylon and to shew you what is the truth taught and professed in Zion and what is Babylonish and Antichristian and to answer those Propositions of Mr. Nichols affirming our Parochial Churches Babylonish and his own to be Zion and the house of God And as he hath gone about to brand us with an infamous Babylonish title thereby thinking to draw yet more of you to his separation I cannot in conscience discharge my duty to God and your Souls unless I vindicate our Churches and shew yet more Babylonish and Antichrist●●n practises and untruths in his Congregation whereby it may be Charact●rized unto you not to be the house of God nor the Pillar and Ground of Truth 2. Errour A second errour and untruth practized in Mr. Nichols his Congregation is in the administring the Sacrament of the Lords Supper at which Mr. Nichols allows a Lay-man or gifted brother to make a prayer at the setting apart those empty Elements for a Sacramental use to the Soul Which how contrary it is to the truth of the word and the example of Iesus Christ when first he instituted that Sacrament under the Elements of Bread and Wine I shall leave you to judge from what St. Luke relates of the last Supper in these words saying He took bread and gave thanks and brake it and gave unto them Luke 22. vers 19. and from St. Paul saying when he had given thanks he brake it 1 Cor. 11. vers 24. from which places I gather that though Christ had present about him his Apostles Brethren though then weak more able and gifted than are any of Mr. Nichols his Congregation yet Christ suffered none of them at that time to pray or give thanks but himself did it Secondly that prayer and thanksgiving at that time belongs to him and ought to be performed by him who breaks the bread and by no other that hath the power of the Keyes by lawfull Ordination which Mr. Nichols his Farme●s and Millers have not And thirdly that without Mr. Nichols can clear his Ordination better than he hath done f●om the peoples Election of him the Administration of that Sacrament belongs to him but his abuse rather of so sacred a Mystery will one day lie with the heavy weight of Sacriledge upon his Soul 3. Errour A third errour and untruth practized by him is in the manner of his gatherin● his Church and building it up upon other mens foundations quite contrary to the practise and example of St. Paul who saith of himself So have I strived to preach the Gospel not where C●●ist was nam●d least I should build upon another mans foundation Rom. 15. vers 20. from whence I observe that St Paul strived not as Mr. Nichols strives Paul judged charitably of other mens preaching Mr. Nichols judgeth uncharitably of ours Paul judged others able to build up a Spiritual house to Christ Mr. Nichols judgeth us unable P●ul judged that Christ was named and called upon in other Churches as well as in his own Mr. Nichols judgeth our Churches Babylonish and our people congreg●ted not to name nor call upon Christ as if we called upon Angels Saints or some Heathenish Gods Paul though there were divisions among the Corinthians and some were for him some for Apollo and some for Ce●has widens not the wound of their division nor goes about to draw any from Apollo or any from Cephas Mr. Nichols makes our divisions his advantage to draw whom he can from our Churches Paul would not build upon another mans foundation Mr. Nichols builds upon ours and admits to his Congregation such as have acknowledged comfort to their Souls from the work of the publick Ministery as by experience I can speak of some who before Mr. Nichols resorted to or intruded himself into Deal acknowledged my Doctrine true sound wholesom and comfortable who since are become stones in Mr. Nichols his new building And thus it appears that his practise is not agreable to the true and peaceable practise of the Apostles especially of Paul 4. Errour A fourth errour practized by him is the unsetled place of his Church contrary to the Constitution of the first Primitive Churches which were known and named by the places as the Church at Ierusalem the Church at Antioch the Church at Ephesus the Church at Corinth and the like to which Paul directed his Epistles by the names of the place but were he to write to Mr. Nichols his Church he could not call it by any one place as the Church at Adisham where Mr. Nichols lives there being more of his Church many miles off in other places flying about on the Sabbath dayes or Trouping about on Hors-back on those dayes to hear him than there are present with him at Adisham But the Letters must be directed to Mr. Nichols his scattered Church at Adisham or elsewhere or to the flying and wandring or Trouping Church from one place to another which is most proper to it or to the church in Kent sometimes here and sometimes there all which is against the Constitution of the Primitive Churches setled in and named by some one certain and determinate place This practise is taken from the Church of Rome and therefore is Babylonish where in my time beyond the Seas I observed people for their pretended devotions much flying and wandring about either to places of Pilgrimage or upon the Sabbath dayes travelling five or six miles from their Parishes to such or such a Chappel to such or such a Cloister of Friars or Colledge of Jesuites under a pretence of gaining Indulgences by hearing Mass or Sermon in such a place and of such a Father And this hath been the Common practise of the Jesuites to draw the people there from the Parish Priests to perswade them that their Doctrine is soundest their lives purest whereas the Friars and the Parish Priests say they are of lewd and wicked Conversations and their Doctrine unprofitable and to this purpose they press to the people many Indulgences which they have obtained from the Pope for all such as shall hear their Doctrine and shall resort to their Churches and Chappels which now is more particularly practized by the Jesuites at Paris By whsch policy the Parish Churches there are very much deserted few people resort unto them and the Parish Priests are left to preach to the bare Walls and to some few old silly Women This policy if not under a pretence of Mass and Indulgences at least under a pretence of more pure Doctrine I have found to be much in Mr. Nichols whose people it seems have learned to run after him many miles upon the Sabbath dayes forsaking their Parish meetings as unprofitable to them and judging the day ill spent their Souls unedified except they hear him and no
passed through the mud of corruptions and corrupt men The Sun shineth one day bright the next day is obscured with clouds and the third day shines bright again And who of sound judgement will the third day deny that light and brightness to be truely the Suns because the day before it was obscured and hid with clouds Or who will refuse the benefit of the Suns light and brightness the third day because it was the day before clouded and obscured Or who will deny the third dayes light truely to be the Suns because the day before there was not from the Sun so clear a light The same I say of our Ordination that indeed it did shine in the Primitive times and when our Churches in England were first constituted with a most clear and bright light of Christs own Institution but afterwards it was obscured and hid in a cloud of Superstitions Popish Rites and Ceremonies and now again is clear and bright and shineth with the light of the true Institution Who therefore of sound judgement will refuse the benefit of it Who can deny it to be from the Sun of Righteousness Jesus Christ because in Popish times it was obscured with clouds of Superstition Though by the Papists we are unjustly called Hereticks Yet some of them deny not to us what those of the Separation here will not grant us Some of them do still look upon our Ordination as true by reason of the Head and Fountain of Iesus Christ from whom it sprang Dominicus Soto Bellarmine Gregorius de Valentia do teach out of Austin grounding on the Scripture that Heretical Bishops may lawfully ordain and that it is an Heresie such as the Donatists was to deny it To this agrees the judgement of our Saviour who teacheth that the Scribes and Pharisees have a lawfull Succession they sit in his Chair their calling is of God though a Race of bad men possessed that Chair and Christ will have them acknowledged for their lawfull Ministers Math. 23. vers 2 3. So is our calling and succession though it passed through corrupt times The Scriptures themselves Baptisme and the Articles of our Creed have all passed through the Papacie unto us and yet they cease not to be true Scriptures nor true baptisme Much less doth Ordination cease to be true and right it being an Act of Jurisdiction which may be legally and lawfully performed by men of corrupt Faith We must carefully distinguish the Acts of Office which have their form and being from a Root or Fountain without us from the qualities of the man that performeth that Office The man may be naught yet his Office be good and Acts done by ver●ue of his Office may be good just and allowable although the man his religion be naught As for instance in Caiphas and in those Priests to whom our Saviour bad the Lepers go and shew themselves Luke 17. vers 14. A Popish Land Lord makes to his Tenant a Lease of a Farm The Lease is not Antichristian but good in Law although he that demised it be for his Religion a Papist A Popish Judge doth pass a sentende in Court which standeth good in Judicature his sentence is not Popish though he that pronounced it be a Papist The reason is because the Legal sentence is not of him nor from him as a Papist but as a Iudge who doth but deliver that which he hath received from an higher root the Law So in this case Ordination is an Act of Office derived from Christ and it is not Popish though executed by a Papist We do not rebaptize them that were baptized by a Popish Priest because the power of Gods Ordinance depends not on the Person that doth execute the same but upon an higher foundation the Institution of Christ. Ministerial Acts are not vitiated or made null though they pass through the hands of bad men but stand good to all intents and purposes to such as receive them aright by vertue of their Office Authoritatively derived from the first Institution Yea further I say that if there have been no true Ministers in England or else where no true Ordinances nor Churches but where there hath been no humane mixtures nor wicked Persons or Officers then there have been but few Ministers Ordinances or Churches since there was a Church upon earth and if there ought to be separation from such Ministers Churches then we should have found before these dayes Separatists enough How hardly was Superstition kept out in the Church of the Iews before the Captivity Afterwards when Christ came were they clear What shall we say of corrupt Caiphas then the high Priest his corrupt entering into and his continuing in the place for one year So the Pharisees a generation corrupt that God never Instituted their School began some say two hundred and fourty years some say more before Christ and for their Superstitious inventions they were not barren in them But did Christ so soon as he came to preach call away the people and bid them separate No we finde no such words but rather we read that though here were corrupt Officers Christ bids the multitude hear them and observe and do whatsoever they bid them observe and do Math. 23. v. 3. After Christ how long did the Churches continue without Superstitious mixtures I believe we shall finde that the Church hath not been long free but we do not finde separation presently and nulling of Ministers as now Men should do well to give us a precept or example out of the word where Ordinances have been dispensed true for the substance though some humane mixtures have been joyned to them that therefore they were itera●ed 4. A●s Fourthly I answer that if the true succession of Ministers of England and true Ordination of them have failed decayed or been lost because of either Bishops or Popish Prelates or a Romish Presbytery in the time of Popery from whom we have descended then it must be shewed in whom particularly or in what Prelates Bishops or Presbyters this Ordination fi●st decayed died and was quite lost and abolished If we look back to the beginning of Popish Superstition in England and to the first Bishops and Presbyters that then Ap●sta●ized from the purity of the Gospel and of the Ordinances of Christ to Popery we shall finde that Ordination for substance died not in them for before they fall they were truely and rightly Ordained to preach and pray and if to preaching and praying they added Mass mumming that their first corruption did not deprive them of that first power which by true Ordination they received to preach and to pray for that power was not given them conditionally so long as they preserved themselves from corruptions and to be forfeited by corruptions as I shewed before that corruptions in an Officer do not null or make void the Acts of Office which have their form and being from a root or foundation without Ordination therefore in them was not lost