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you_o will_v not_o think_v much_o to_o be_v impose_v on_o by_o jesus_n christ_n that_o this_o duty_n be_v to_o be_v pay_v without_o all_o hypocrisy_n to_o the_o bishop_n for_o god_n sake_n who_o it_o be_v impossible_a to_o deceive_v that_o harken_v to_o he_o for_o that_o be_v the_o notion_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o in_o the_o hellenistick_a style_n then_o in_o use_n be_v the_o same_o with_o obedience_n be_v part_n of_o that_o and_o that_o the_o disrespect_n to_o he_o in_o any_o of_o these_o duty_n redound_v to_o the_o dishonour_n of_o god_n for_o who_o sake_n he_o be_v to_o be_v honour_v and_o now_o i_o pray_v consider_v how_o you_o can_v reconcile_v herewith_o your_o desire_a liberty_n of_o excommunicate_v without_o his_o privity_n or_o consent_n immediate_o after_o he_o blame_v they_o who_o give_v their_o bishop_n the_o honour_n of_o a_o empty_a name_n and_o yet_o do_v all_o thing_n without_o his_o privity_n and_o express_o censure_v they_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d man_n of_o no_o good_a conscience_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o beside_o the_o coherence_n former_o note_v it_o be_v plain_a that_o even_o presbyter_n also_o be_v include_v because_o he_o speak_v of_o assembly_n which_o can_v not_o be_v celebrate_v without_o some_o act_n of_o priestly_a power_n and_o if_o such_o assembly_n be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o command_n nor_o the_o rule_n of_o good_a conscience_n how_o your_o proceed_n without_o the_o consent_n or_o privity_n of_o your_o bishop_n can_v be_v excusable_a i_o do_v not_o understand_v in_o the_o epistle_n ad_fw-la trallian_n after_o have_v enjoin_v respect_n to_o all_o the_o three_o order_n he_o conclude_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 17._o whence_o you_o may_v easy_o conclude_v his_o thought_n concern_v such_o assembly_n which_o be_v maintain_v without_o one_o of_o they_o that_o be_v of_o episcopacy_n as_o they_o must_v needs_o be_v who_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o act_v independent_o on_o their_o 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ecclesiae_fw-la honorem_fw-la quo_fw-la salvo_fw-la salva_fw-la pax_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n exact_o herein_o agree_v with_o ignatius_n pamel_n and_o the_o same_o seem_v to_o have_v be_v the_o sense_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o asiatic_a church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o firmilian_a who_o though_o indeed_o he_o mention_v the_o majores_fw-la natu_fw-la praesides_fw-la under_o which_o word_n according_a to_o the_o use_n of_o that_o age_n i_o confess_v presbyter_n may_v be_v include_v as_o have_v the_o power_n of_o baptise_v imposition_n of_o hand_n in_o reconcile_a penitent_n especial_o and_o of_o ordination_n which_o we_o do_v not_o deny_v they_o yet_o he_o seem_v to_o intimate_v their_o dependence_n on_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o that_o power_n which_o proper_o belong_v to_o they_o which_o be_v all_o that_o we_o desire_v for_o thus_o he_o afterward_o express_o assert_v the_o power_n of_o remission_n of_o sin_n either_o in_o baptism_n or_o absolution_n of_o 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the_o necessity_n to_o be_v provide_v for_o by_o the_o secular_a governor_n §_o 6_o 7_o 8._o a_o objection_n prevent_v §_o 9_o mr._n baxter_n first_o answer_v refute_v the_o government_n of_o a_o diocese_n may_v be_v administer_v without_o any_o more_o than_o three_o order_n §_o 10._o the_o church_n may_v for_o prudential_a reason_n constitute_v new_a officer_n though_o not_o order_n §_o 11._o mr._n baxter_n second_o answer_v refute_v personal_a capacity_n as_o requisite_a in_o a_o prince_n as_o in_o a_o bishop_n §_o 12._o a_o objection_n prevent_v §_o 13._o mr._n baxter_n three_o four_o and_o five_o answer_v refute_v §_o 14_o 15._o his_o six_o answer_n reject_v §_o 16._o what_o i_o mean_v when_o i_o make_v the_o decretory_a power_n of_o government_n proper_a to_o the_o supreme_a and_o the_o executive_a only_o to_o be_v communicate_v to_o inferior_a governor_n §_o 17._o the_o decretory_a power_n of_o government_n do_v not_o necessary_o include_v personal_a or_o particular_a 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the_o liberty_n desire_v by_o mr._n baxter_n inconsistent_a with_o the_o principle_n of_o the_o ignatian_a episcopacy_n so_o much_o recommend_v by_o himself_o on_o other_o occasion_n §_o 30._o inconsistent_a with_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n describe_v by_o tertullian_n and_o firmilian_a §_o 31._o inconsistent_a with_o that_o of_o s._n cyprian_n no_o reason_n why_o mr._n baxter_n shall_v desire_v to_o disow_v they_o from_o be_v part_n of_o his_o cure_n who_o do_v not_o observe_v rule_n of_o discipline_n §_o 32._o my_o second_o argument_n for_o the_o possibility_n of_o diocesan_n discipline_n from_o the_o actual_a experience_n of_o former_a time_n §_o 33._o the_o notion_n of_o a_o church_n for_o no_o more_o than_o be_v capable_a of_o personal_a inspection_n of_o a_o single_a presbyter_n not_o prove_v to_o be_v of_o divine_a institution_n from_o act_n 14._o 23._o §_o 34_o 35._o his_o second_o and_o three_o answer_v refute_v the_o distribution_n of_o particular_a cure_n to_o particular_a presbyter_n from_o whence_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o one_o diocese_n include_v many_o such_o society_n as_o be_v fit_v for_o personal_a communion_n be_v more_o convenient_a than_o their_o govern_v the_o same_o multitude_n in_o common_a very_o probable_o as_o ancient_a as_o they_o have_v settle_v place_n of_o meet_v how_o ancient_a in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o alexandria_n §_o 36._o how_o vigorous_a notwithstanding_o discipline_n be_v at_o that_o very_a time_n at_o alexandria_n §_o 37._o his_o four_o answer_n refute_v §_o 38._o his_o five_o answer_n refute_v §_o 39_o his_o six_o answer_n refute_v §_o 40._o his_o seven_o answer_n refute_v the_o ancient_a city_n of_o the_o roman_a empire_n that_o have_v single_a bishop_n more_o general_o as_o great_a and_o populous_a as_o now_o §_o 41_o 42._o the_o ecclesiastical_a government_n of_o those_o city_n proportion_v to_o the_o civil_a §_o 43._o whether_o our_o diocesan_n office_n be_v a_o drive_a man_n to_o sin_n §_o 44_o 45_o 46._o his_o eight_o answer_n refute_v great_a city_n than_o have_v great_a number_n of_o christian_n instance_a in_o the_o church_n of_o jerusalem_n samaria_n antioch_n antiochia_n pisidiae_fw-la thessalonica_n beroea_n ephesus_n §_o 47._o these_o be_v church_n in_o all_o likelihood_n design_v by_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o as_o precedent_n for_o other_o the_o multitude_n of_o christian_n every_o where_o in_o the_o roman_a empire_n in_o the_o time_n of_o tertullian_n §_o 48._o instance_n of_o other_o church_n very_o numerous_a beside_o rome_n and_o alexandria_n neocaesarea_n carthage_n the_o passage_n of_o s._n cyprian_a concern_v his_o contribution_n explain_v §_o 49_o 50._o the_o ancient_a numerousness_n of_o christian_n prove_v from_o pliny_n §_o 51._o the_o possibility_n of_o their_o meeting_n in_o the_o same_o assembly_n §_o 52._o several_a way_n how_o great_a number_n may_v communicate_v from_o the_o same_o altar_n than_o can_v ordinary_o meet_v in_o the_o same_o 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