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A29456 A Brief history of Presbytery and Independency from their first original to this time shewing I. wherein and the reasons why they separate from the Church of England, II. wherein they differ from each other : with some remarks on the late heads of agreement assented to by the united ministers of both perswasions ... 1691 (1691) Wing B4598; ESTC R7644 23,656 32

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