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A29432 A dissuasive from the errours of the time wherein the tenets of the principall sects, especially of the Independents, are drawn together in one map, for the most part in the words of their own authours, and their maine principles are examined by the touch-stone of the Holy Scriptures / by Robert Baylie ... Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662. 1645 (1645) Wing B456; ESTC R200539 238,349 276

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yea two or three ibid. The erecting of a Church requires neither the Magistrates nor Ministers assistance ibid. They put all Church power in a handfull of people without any Pastor 24 The election ordination deposition and excommunication of the Minister belongs to his flock and to it alone ibid. Every man of the Congragation may preach and publikely rebuke not only the Pastor but the whole flock yea and separate from it 25 Some of them give the celebration of the Sacraments also to private persons ibid. The solemnizing of marriage they give to Parents but Divorces they commit to the parties themselves 26 They make every Congregation independent and of Soveraigne Authority ibid. Their judgement of Synods 27 Their high conceit of their own way and injurious depressing of all others ibid. Churches Bels Tythes Glebes Manses and all set maintenance of Ministers are unlawfull not so much as a Church yard must be kept up for buriall but all must bury in the fields ibid. The dayes of the week the months the yeare of God they will not name 28 No Pulpits no Sand-glasses in Churches no Gowns ibid. All set prayer even the Lords prayer and all Psalms in meeter yea in prose if used as praises are unlawfull 29 Their opinion of preaching and Sacraments ibid. Their strange way of celebrating the Lords Supper ibid. They reject Catechismes the Apostles Creed and all reading of Scripture without exposition 30 After preaching they prophecy ibid. Then come their Questions ibid. After all they attend a very tedious discipline ibid. Brown is for liberty of Conscience ibid. His followers are against it 31 Their carriage towards the Magistrate ibid. They spoyle Kings and Parliaments of their Legislative power ibid. They oblige the Magistrate to kill all Idolaters ibid. But to spare all theeves 32 They will have the Vniversities destroyed ibid. Secular Authors and Learning must be abolished ibid. Preachers must study no other books but the Bible ibid. Chap. 3. The originall and progresse of the Independents and of their carriage in New-England Independency is the smallest of all the Sects of the time for number but greatest for worth of its followers 53 Independents are the Separatists off-spring ibid. When the spark of Brownism was dying out in Holland a little of its ashes carried to New-England broke out there into a lasting flame 54 By what meanes these ashes were kindled ibid. Mr Cotton at first a great Opposite to that way 55 Mr Cotton with little adoe became the great Patron of that Errour ibid Mr Cotton was the mis-leader of Mr Goodwin and others 56 Mr Cotton often deceived hath given his patrociny to divers grosse errours ibid. Why God permits great men to fall in evident errours ibid. His Prelaticall Arminian and Montanistick tenets 57 His Antinomy and Familism ibid. Independency full as unhappy as Brownisme 58 Wherefore so much of the Independent way lies yet in darknesse 59 The fruits of Independency in New-England ibid. First it hath put thousands of Christians in the condition of Pagans ibid. Secondly it hath marred the conversion of Pagans to Christian Religion 60 Thirdly it did bring forth the foulest heresies that ever yet were heard of in any Protestant Church ibid. A few examples of the many abominable heresies of the New-English Independents 61 The greatest part of their Churches were infected with these errours ibid. The piety of these Hereticks seemed to be singular ibid. Their malice against all who opposed them was singular especially against all their orthodox Ministers and Magistrates 62 Their errours in opinion did draw on such seditious practises as did well neare overturne both their Church and State ibid. Their proud obstinacy against all admonitions was marvelous p. 63 In the midst of their profession of eminent Piety the profanenesse of many of them was great p. 64 Notwithstanding of all this we desire from our heart to honour and imitate all and every degree of truth and Piety which did ever appeare in any New-English Christian p. 65 Chap. 4. The carriage of the Independents in Holland at Rot●rdam and Arnheim p. 75. Independency was no fruitfull tree in Holland p. 75 Mr Peters the first planter thereof at Roterdam ibid. Their Ministers Mr. Bridge Mr Simpson and Mr Ward renounced their English Ordination and as meere private men tooke new Ordination from the people ibid. They did quickly fall into shamefull divisions and subdivisions p. 76 The people without any just cause deposed their Minister ibid. The Schismes at Roterdam were more irreconcileable then those at Amsterdam p. 77 Anabaptisme is like to spoile that Church p. 78 These of Arnheim admire and praise themselves above all measure ibid. The easinesse of their banishment and afflictions p. 79 The new Light at Arnheim brok out in a number of strange errors ib. First grosse Chiliasme ibid. Secondly the grossest blasphemy of the Libertines that God is the Author of the very sinfulnesse of sinne p. 80 Thirdly the fancy of the Euthusiasts in contemplating God as God abstracted from Scripture from Christ from grace and from all his attributes ibid. Fourthly the old Popish Ceremonies of extreme Unction and the holy Kisse of peace p. 81 Fifthly the discharging of the Psalmes and the apointing of a singing Prophet to chant the Songs made by himselfe in the silence of all others ibid. Sixthly the mortality of the soule ibid. Seventhly the conveniency for Ministers to preach covered and celebrate the Sacraments uncovered but for the people to heare uncovered and to participate the Sacraments covered p. 82. Their publick contentions were shamefull ibid. Cap. 5. The Carriage of the Independents at London p. 90 The worke of the prime Independents of New-England Arnheim and Roterdam these five yeares at London p. 90 They did hinder with all their power so long as they were able the calling of the Assembly ibid. When it was called they retarded its proceedings p. 91 That the Churches of England and Ireland lye so long in confusion neither Papists nor Prelates nor Malignants have been the cause ibid. But the Independents working according to their Principles p. 92 The great mischiefe of that Anarchy wherein they have kept the Churches of England and Ireland for so long a time ibid. Independency is the mother of more Heresies and Schismes at London then Amsterdam ever knew ibid. Independency at London doth not only bring forth but nourish and patronize Heresies and Schismes contrary to its custome either in New-England or Amsterdam p. 93 How hazardous it may prove to the State of England p. 94 Chap. 6. An Enumeration of the Common Tenets of the Independents p. 101 Why it is hard to set downe the Independents Positions p. 101 They have declined to declare their Tenets more then hath ever been the custome of any Orthodox Divines ibid. When they shall be pleased to declare themselves to the full their principle of change will hinder them to assure us that any thing is their setled and firme
Tenet wherein they will be constant ibid. The chiefe Tenets which hitherto they have given out and not yet recalled p. 102 They reject the name of Independents unreasonably and for their owne disadvantage ibid. When it is laid aside the more infamous name of Brownists and Separatists will inevitably fall upon them ibid. They avow a Semi-Separation but a Sesqui-Separation will bee proven upon them p. 103 The Independents doe separate from all the reformed Churches upon far worse grounds then the Brownists were wont to separate of old ibid. Their acknowledgement of the reformed for true Churches doth not diminish but increase their Schisme ibid. They refuse all Church Communion and Membership in all the reformed Churches ibid. They preach and pray in them as they would doe among Pagans only as gifted men to gather materials for their new Churches p. 104. About the matter of the Church and qualification of Members they are large as strict as the Brownists admitting none but who convinces the whole Congregation of their reall regeneration p. 105 Beside true grace they require in the person to be admitted a sutablenesse of Spirit with every other Member p. 106 But in this they are laxer then the Brownists that they can take in without scruple Anabaptists Antinomians and others who both in life and Doctrine have evident blots if so they be zealous and serviceable for their way ibid. About the forme of the Church a Church-Covenant they are more punctuall then the Brownists ibid. They take the power of gathering and erecting of Churches both from Magistrates and Ministers placing it onely in the hands of a few private Christians who are willing to make among themselves a Church-Covenant p. 107 This power of erecting themselves into a compleat and perfit Church they give to any seven persons yea to any three neither admitt they more into a Church then can altogether in one place commodiously administer the Sacraments and Discipline ibid. The Independents will have all the standing Churches in England except them of the Sectaries dissolved and all their Ministers to become meerely private men and any three persons of their way to be a full Church p. 108 Vnto this Church of seven persons they give all and the whole Church power and that independently ibid. Vnto this Congregationall Church alone they give the full power of Election and Ordination of Deposition and Excommunication even of all their Officers and of the finall determination of all Ecclesiasticall causes p. 109 The difference of Iohnson and Ainsworth about the power of the people and Presbyterie distinct one from the other is not yet composed among the Independents ibid. The common Doctrine of New-England is Ainsworths Tenet that the people alone have all the power and may excommunicate when there is cause all their Officers ibid. Mr. Cotton the other yeare did fall much from them and himselfe towards Iohnson teaching that the whole power of Authority is onely in the Officers and the people have nothing but the power of Liberty to concurre That the Officers can doe nothing without the people nor the people any thing but by the Officers p. 110 Yet that both Officers and people or any of them have power to separate themselves from all the rest when they finde cause ibid. The London Independants give more power of Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction then the Brownists unto woemen p. 111 Some of them permit private men to celebrate the Sacraments ibid Brownists and Independents doe perfectly agree i● the point of Independency ibid If a corrupt or negligent Congregation doe not censure the● owne Members all the Assemblies in the world may not attempt to censure any of them though most apparently they did corrupt a whole Nation with the grosseth Heresies or most scandalous vices p. 112 The point of Independency is either the root or the fruit of many Errours ibid. To temper the crudity thereof they adde to it three moderating Positions but for little purpose ibid. They grant the being of Synods but not of Classicall Presbyteries p. 113 Their Synods are meerely Brownisticall without all Iurisdiction wherein every one of the people may voyce also they are meerely Elective and only occasionall ibid. The Sentence of non-Communion is Mr. Cottons invention to supply that defect which themselves make in the Ordinances of God ibid. It puts in the hand of every man a power to sentence all the Churches of the World p. 114 It carries to the highest degree of Separation ibid. Their supply of the defects of Independency by the power of the Magistrate was a remedy which they learned from the Brownists but now they have cast it aside denying to the Magistrate all power in matter● of Religion p. 115 The Independents doe advance their fancies to as high a pitch of glory as the Brownists ibid. They are the Brownists Schollers in many more things beside the constitution and government of the Church ibid. They give to the Magistrate the celebration of Marriage ibid. Mr. Milton permits any man to put away his wife upon his meere pleasure without any fault and without the cognisance of any Iudge p. 116 Mr Gorting teaches the wife to put away her Husband if he will not follow her in any new Church-way which she is pleased to embrace ibid. They are against all determinations of the circumstances of Worship and therefore all Church Directories are against their stomacks ibid. The common names of the dayes of the week of the Months of the yeare of the yeare of God of many Churches and Cities of the Land are as unlawfull to them as to the Brownists ibid. All Tythes and set-mayntenance of Ministers they cry downe but a voluntary contribution for the maintenance of all their Officers they presse to a high proportion with the evident prejudice of the poore p. 117 In their solemne Worship oft times they make one to pray another to preach a third to Prophesie a fourth to direct the Psalme and another to blesse the people ibid. They make it a divine Institution without any word of preface to begin the publick Worship with solemn prayer for the King and Church p. 118 After the Pastors Prayer the Doctor reads and expounds ibid. In preaching they will be free to take a Text or not as they find it expedient ibid. After the Sermon any of the people whom they thinke able are permitted to prophesie ibid. All are permitted to propound in the face of the Congregation what questions upon the Sermon they thinke meet ibid. About the Psalmes they have divers strange conceits but the speciall is their new Ordinance of a singing Prophet who is place of the Psalmes singeth Hymmes of his owne making in the midst of the silent Congregation ibid. They grant the lawfulnesse of read Prayers in diverse cases p. 119 They will have none to be baptised but the children of their owne Members so at one dash they put all England except a very few of their way into the
form of it not Accidental but Essential and Constitutive they place in an explicite Covenant CC wherein all and every one of the Members by a voluntary Association without the Authority of either Magistrate or Minister do binde themselves under a solemn Oath to walk in the wayes of the Gospel DD. When two or three or some very few for they require no more then seven to a full and perfect Congregation EE and they professe it unlawful to admit any more then can commodiously at one time in one place partake of all the Ordinances FF If when these few I say have departed not onely from the English and the rest of the Reformed but also from every Church of their own way wherein they finde the least errour or sin of any of the Members whereof they have complained not to be amended either by the Repentance or the Excommunication of the party GG The Association of these men thus separate into a Covenant is the essential form of their Church But the association must be so voluntary and free as not to wait for the countenance of any Authority either Ecclesiastick or Civil to supplicate the Magistrate for his favour in the gathering of a new Church is to them a sin HH and to erect a Church by the help of any Minister to them is a contradiction For the Church newly erected makes the Minister but no Minister can gather or erect a Church II If a person who elsewhere hath been a Minister become the Author or Instrument of erecting a Church he is not then a Minister but a meer private man till the Church so erected by a new call and ordination by themselves doth make him again a Minister Unto their Church so constituted in matter and form were their number never so small before it attain to any Officer either Pastor or Doctor or Elder they ascribe great power and fair priviledges not onely the power of Doctrine but of Ordination and all Jurisdiction even a full right to all the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven and every priviledge of any visible Church how perfect so ever KK This their new Church they will have to elect the Pastor and all other Officers if a Pastor should come to them by the presentation of a Patron or nomination of a Presbytery however they did not oppose yea did consent to his admission yet if they were not the Electors and first Nominators the man should be an intruder and a Woolf whom they might not lawfully hear LL The Pastor being chosen and that out of their own number usually some Artificer or Tradesman for they do not require Letters in their Pastors and so far in their Elections they tie themselves to their own Members that if any other were found meet and willing to be an Officer among them he must first enter into their Covenant and become a Member before he were capable of any Office MM When I say they have elected him a Pastor the same and no other then who did elect do give him Ordination for the right and exercise of Ordination NN they ascribe to the people that is according to Ainsworth and others if we beleeve Johnson every Member of the flock even Women and Children OO But according to Johnsons minde onely the men of the flock excluding Women and Children yet including the meanest and most ignorant of all the men who are Communicants To these they ascribe the power of Ordination who in the exercise of it appoint some of their number whom they think fittest to ordain the Pastor that is to examine him in all the needful qualifications of his life and doctrine to exhort him to all the parts of his duty publikely to pray for him and at last to lay hands upon his head PP The Pastor so elected and ordained becomes a servant not onely of Christ but of that flock from whom he hath as they speak originally QQ all his power to Preach or celebrate the Sacraments or to do any other part of his Office wherein if he fail any one of the people hath power to admonish and reprove him publikely RR and the greater part of the people in any Congregation agreeing suppose they were four when the whole makes seven have full power to depose and Excommunicate him SS much more have they power to cognosce and definitively to determine upon the nature of Heresie Superstition Errour or of any crime which procures these censures When the major part of the people have cast out the Minister and all the Officers and so many of the flock as adhere to them no part of their power by this ejection is lost still they keep their full right to all the Ordinances of Christ any of them who is thought able may prophecy that is publikely expound the Word and apply it for instruction reproof comfort and all other uses TT Any of them may pray in the Congregation any may Ordain any may Excommunicate they give expressely a full power to every one of admonition and rebu●e yea of censuring so far the whole that if they refuse to follow the just admonition of any one he ought to denounce the judgements of God publikely against them all and separate from them as from an obstinate and cursed society VV The onely question remains about the Sacraments all of them agree that the smallest and weakest Congregation may choose and ordain one of their own number when ever they will to be Pastor and so to celebrate the Sacraments to the rest XX ●ut the most of them say that unlesse they have appointed a Pastor for that end none of the rest can lawfully celebrate a Sacrament YY Yet others of them make a Quaere hereof ZZ for say they since the Church without Officers hath the free exercise of all other power in Preaching Prayer and Censures why may not the like be said of the Sacraments These men after their scrupling for some time as their custome is come up at last to conclude and practise celebrating Sacraments without any Pastorall charge of Baptism it is certain for Master Smith professing himself a meer private man having renounced his former Ministry and Baptism also took upon him to baptise himself and who lawfully may celebrate the one Sacrament may as lawfully celebrate the other When all the power is ascribed by them to their Church yet peremptorily they deny to it the power to solemnize marriage AAA for marriage to them is not onely a contract meerly civil but such a one as concerns the Church nothing at all so they remit it wholly to the Magistrate or else to the Parents BBB to be solemnized in private Families and as their marriage is private so likewise must their Divorces without the cognizance either of Magistrate or Minister CCC They were wont to teach that adultery did so far annul marriage that it was a sin and the cause of excommunication for the innocent party to
but if the whole Word of God be holy pure and true then is this deep learning of theirs devillish and blasphemous Ibid. They thus to colour their wickednesse make some part of Gods Word Fundamental Substantial necessary other Accidental Superficial needlesse which makes some sins openly and manifestly convinced yet obstinately persisted in without any repentance in this life not to be mortal as the Papists do Barrows refut p. 24. We have learned to put difference betwixt Errour and Heresie Obstinacy joyned to Errour after it is duely convinced maketh Heresie And further we say that any Errour being obstinately holden and taught after it is duely convinced and reproved maketh an Heretike and Heresie in that party and in that Congregation that so holdeth and teacheth doth separate from the Faith and Communion of Christ Ibid. p. 27. It is his Scholastical or rather Sophistical distinction of Errours Fundamental c. They who obstinately hold any Errour or Transgression and will not by repentance be purged there from lose Christ and so hold not the Foundation BB Bar. dis p. 33. Such like detestable stuff hath Master Calvin in his ignorance partly to confute that damnable sect of Anabaptists which fantastically dream to themselves of a Church in this life without spot and for every Transgression that ariseth are ready to forsake the fellowship of the Church without due and orderly reproof CC Rob. Apol. p. 81. Formalis ecclesiae constitutio est ex fidei resipiscentiae confessione orali per adultos facta consociatio in particulares coetus DD Confession of faith p. 34. Being come forth of this Antichristian estate to the true profession of Christ beside the instructing of their own Families they are willingly to come together in Christian communion and orderly to Covenant and unite themselves in visible Congregations A light for the ignorant p. 12. This voluntary uniting is the form and being of the politick and visible Vnion and Communion EE Robins Just p. 107. This we hold and affirm that a company consisting though but of two or three gathered by a covenant made to walk in all the ways of God known unto them is a Church and so hath the whole power of Christ Ibid. p. 111. Two or three thus gathered together have the same right with two or three thousand neither the smallnesse of the number nor meanesse of the persons can prejudice their rights FF Johns plea. p. 250. The constitution of every particular Church should be such that each of them may ordinarily come together in one place for the worship of God and all other duties belonging to them by the Word of God Rob. Apol. p. 12. Statu●mus non debere ecclesias particulares ambitu suo plura membra complecti quam quae in unum locum simul coire possunt GG Vide supra X Y. HH Bar. dis p. 190. They suite to bring Christ in by the Arm of Flesh by suiting and supplicating to his vassals and servants If so be they can imagine them Christians that will not suffer Christ to reign over them by his Laws and Ordinances If they judge them no Christians then they suite and stay on his enemies till they will suffer Christ to reign and rule over his own Church II Confession p. 34. Beside the instruction of their Families they are willingly to come together and unite themselves in visible Congregations Then such to whom God hath given gifts to interpret the Scriptures may and ought by the appointment of the Congregation to prophecy and so to teach publikely the Word of God untill such time as God manifest men with able gifts to such Offices as Christ hath appointed for the publike Ministery of the Church but no Sacrament to be administred untill the Pastors or Teachers be chosen and ordained to their Office KK Barr. dis pag. 34. Which people thus gathered are to be esteemed an holy Church and hath power to receive into and cast out of their fellowship although they have attained to have yet among them neither a Ministery nor Sacraments providing it be not by any default in them that they be wanting Ibid. It is manifest that all the Members of the Church have alike interest in Christ in his Word in the Faith That all the affairs of the Church belong to the Body together That all the actions of the Church Prayers Sacraments Censures Faith be the action of them all joyntly and of every one severally although the Body to divers actions uses divers Members which it knows most fit for the same all the charged to watch admonish reprove and hereunto have the power of the Lord the Keyes of the Kingdom even the Word of the most High whereby to binde the Rulers in chains and their Nobles in fetters to admonish the greatest even Archippus to look to his Ministery and if need be to plead with their Mother LL Canns Necessity of Sep p. 29. None may hear or joyn in spiritual Communion with that Ministery which hath not a true Vocation and Calling by Election Approbation and Ordination of that faithful People whereto he is a Minister Ibid. p. 46. So necessary is a right election and calling to every Ecclesiastike Office that without the same it cannot possibly be true or lawful Barr. Refut p. 30. The Minister must not onely be called to a true Office but must have a lawful calling to that Office otherwise he is but an intruder a theef and a murderer Every particular Congregation ought to make choice of their own Pastors MM A Light for p. 17. In the false Church the particular Congregations have no Authority to produce or raise Officers out of themselves for the Clergy is a distinct Body and sent by their Ecclesiastical Heads and bring their Office and Authority with them NN Bar. Refut p. 19. This power of Ordination is not as the unruly Clergy of these dayes suppose derived from the Apostles and Evangelists under the permanent ministery of Pastors and Elders Ibid. p. 130. Ordination is but a publishing of that former contract and agreement betwixt the whole Church and these elected Officers the Church giving and the Elect receiving their Offices as by the Commandment of God with mutual vow to each other in all duties Canns Necessity of Separ p. 29. None may joyn with that Ministery which hath not a true calling by Election and Ordination of that faithful people to whom he is to administer OO Johns Plea p. 316. It is to be understood according to Ainsworth Robinson and Smith of men women and children in their own persons who are bo●●d in their own persons to be present to hear and judge controversies PP Rob. Justifi p. 9. also p. 111. QQ Light for the ignorant p. 17. These Officers have not onely their Authority from particular Congregations but do arise originally and naturally out of the same RR Vide supra KK Also Bar. Dis p. 125. The least of the Church hath as much power by the
common in their members are of easy disgestion dd Concerning the other part of the Church essence its forme their Covenant in this the Disciples go much above their Master Mr Cotton hath perfected by an expresse Treatise this part of Brownism ee as many others The Covenants of New ●ngland are much straiter then any that ever we heard of at Amsterdam It is true that of late both in Old and New England the Independents seem much to modify the rigour of their Covenant ff but whatever may be said of their profession I never could learne of their practice to admit any into their society who gave not full assurance of embracing their whole way and all their differences from the Reformed Churches Sure I am they did never admit any upon easier tearms then lately I my self did hear Mr Can admit a member into his Church at Amsterdam yet if Mr Prynnes information be well grounded they are become at London more rigid in their Covenant then ever he tells us that now it is their custome to make it a part of their Oath to oppugne the Government of the Reformed Churches and to defend Independency with armes and violence ff 2. Unto the constitution we may referre the efficient of a Church and the number of its members in both the Schollars follow punctually their Masters As for the efficient it is not only the Brownists but the Independents also who put the power of gathering Churches and joyning together by Covenant in a Church way in the hand of private Christians alone without any Officer or the authority of any Magistrate It is presumption in any Minister if he assay to make up a Church only people must associate themselves into a Church and then create their Ministers and other Officers gg In New England at the erection of a new Church they are content with the presence both of the Magistrate and Ministers of the neighbour Churches but they declare that neither is necessary and that the presence of either gives no authority to the action and the absence of both detracts no authority from it hh That the whole power to gather a Congregation and to erect a Church is alone in the covenanting persons ii As for the number of the members the Independents go as low as the Brownists avowing that seven persons make a full ministeriall and compleatly organized Church kk nor do they extend the number any farther then the Brownists avowing that no Church except the universall may have any more members then conveniently can meet and be accommodated in one place for the exercise of all holy duties ll not only preaching of the Word whereat thousands may be present but celebration of the Sacraments and administring all parts of Discipline to which acts a few hundreds cannot commodiously meet The Independents minde about the gathering and erecting of Congregations may be clearly perceived by their late practice in the Sommer Islands wherein they are applauded by the Churches of New England and defended by Master White against Master Prynnes Fresh Discovery with a great deale of confidence and high language there hee justifies the necessity of the dissolution of all the Churches in the Barmudaes which yet he professes were among the best of all the English Plantations there were above 3000 people in the Isle who had lived without all controversie with any of their Ministers from their first planting till the yeare 1641 when their Ministers perswaded by some writs of the Brethren of New England found it necessary to lay down their charges and become meere private men denying to administer to their old flocks any Ordinance till three of them entring in a Covenant and thereby becomming a new Church did perswade of the 3000 Islanders some thirty or forty at most to joyn with them in their new Church Covenant these covenanted persons did chuse one of their old Ministers for their Pastor and two others of them for Ruling Elders who as gifted men were content to joyne with the Pastor in preaching not only to the Church members but to the whole Isle to fit them to be Church members but all the three refused absolutely to celebrate any Sacrament or administer any Discipline or do any act of a Pastor to any but to the forty named only All this Mr White maintains as just and necessary and petitions the Parliament in print for their countenance and approbation whereby it seems it is the Independents avowed and cleare intention when they have power to dissolve and annull all the Churches of England yea of the world to spoile all Ministers living of their pastorall charge and all people of all Church priviledges and to erect new Churches of their own framing into which they are to admit at most not one of an hundred of those who now do count themselves Christians all this you may see at length in Mr Whites very peremptory Reply to Mr Prynnes Fresh Discovery Leaving the constitution their chiefe Tenets concerne the power of the Congregation so constitute as is said in this they come up fully to their Masters side for they give unto their Church that is their seven covenanted persons the whole Ecclesiastick power and that independently upon any person under heaven First they put it in their hands to create all the Officers they not only give them suffrages in their election mm but the whole power of Ordination also nn the examination of their Pastor in all the abilities requisite for his charge oo the laying all the parts of his Office upon him publique prayer imposition of hands and what other acts are requisite for a regular Ordination are all performed by one of the people whom the rest have appointed for that end pp As they have power to make all their Officers so they have power to unmake them to depose and excommunicate all their Ministers qq to cognosce and finally to determine without any appeal in all cases both in life and doctrine of all Heresies and Scismes of all Truths and Errours to order all things belonging to the worship of God and to do all things else rr which other Churches ascribe to the most Generall Assemblies of the most learned Divines Upon this passage of Power come in the differences which divided the Brownists among themselves whilst Iohnson would give all these acts of power to the Eldership and Ainsworth would keep them for the Congregation these same questions vex the Independents to this day and are likely to divide the Children as they did the Fathers The most of the New English Divines with Ainsworth attribute the whole Ecclesiastick power to the body of the people unto the Eldership they give the preparation of affaires ss but the judgement and determination of all doth passe by the plurality of the peoples voices tt the power of the keyes they put in the hand not of the Presbytery but of the fraternity ww as they speak And in some
themselves off from the Covenant they doe therewith cut off their children to z Ibid. p. 63. We dare not baptise the children of these Parents that refuse to professe the faith of Christ as their onely King as well as their only Priest and Prophet for Christ divided becomes no Christ to the divider this is to dissolve Christ that is to receive him onely in part and not in whole which is the spirit of Antichrist ibid. p. 55. Such a conversion as you speak of comes not home to whole Christ and such with their Converters doe deny Christs Kingly Government what kind of Converters call you these at best they are converted but in part and that maine thing is wanting to wit Christs Kingly Office which they come not up to by the preaching thereof w Paper of Accommodation after the ninth proposition We having weighed our Brethrens principles doe find no probability of an Accommodation for them ordinarily to enjoy Congregations unlesse it shall happen in a Parish that the Minister cannot administer the Sacraments to all of the Parish whom possibly the neighbour Ministers or the Classis may judge fit to be admitted such persons shall have power to procure to themselves the Sacraments by the help of a neighbour Minister ibid. Whereunto our brethren adde as followeth or otherwise if in a Parish it happen that there be a considerable number of such as cannot partake in the Ordinances with the Minister and people there they shall have liberty to dispose of themselves as a distinct Church and to choose a Minister or Ministers at their own charge to be maintained to be their Pastor x Thomas Goodwin to I. G. p. 1. Indeed we that are to admit doe it upon a conviction and perswasion of the parties true grace some way made forth visible to us Welds answer to chap. 3. Hee tells us that they must be reall Saints and syncere Believers and that the Church in admitting of them doth make exact tryall by examination of their knowledge and the work of grace first in private then in publike and that they be such as can cleave together in opinion and affection and that they be such as know what belongs to Church-Covenant approve it and seek it is there any thing in all this that you can blame y Ibid. In the Churches where we have lived many years we have seen such a tender respect had to the weaker sex that we commit their tryall to the Elders and some few others in private who upon their Testimony are admitted into the Church without any more adoe z Rathbones Narration p. 11. Beside true and reall Saintship they require that the members to be admitted be such as can cleave together both in opinion and in affection and that there be sutablenesse and sweetnesse of spirit in them apt to close one with another aa Vide supra Z also Cotons Way p. 7. bb Vide supra fifth Chap. E 1. cc Apol. Nar. p. 9. Excommunication should be put in execution for no other kind of sinnes then may be evidently presumed to be perpetrated against the parties known light as whether it be a sinne in manners and conversation such as is committed against the light of nature or the common received practises of Christianity professed in all the Churches of Christ or if in opinion then such as are likewise contrary to the received principles of Christianity and the power of godlinesse professed by the party himselfe and universally acknowledged in all the rest of the Churches and no other sinnes to be the subject of that dreadfull sentence dd Bastwicks Postscript p. 58. also his Iust defence p. 39. ee An Apologie of the Churches in New-England for a Church-Covenant ff T.G. to I.G. p. First it is no more with us then this an assent and resolution professed by them that are to be admitted by us with promise to walk in all these wayes pertaining to this Fellowship so farre as they shall be revealed to them in the Gospel thus briefly indefinitly and implicitly in such like words and no more or otherwise do we apply our answers to mens consciences Church-covenant p. 36. We deny not but the Covenant in many of the English Congregations is more implicite and not so plaine as were to bee desired yet there wants not that reall and substantiall comming together or agreeing in Covenant and that substantiall profession of faith which thanks be to God hath preserved the essence of visible Churches in England unto this day gg Plaine dealing p. 2. A Church is gathered after this manner a competent number of Christians come together in some fit place in a publike manner and there confesse their sins and professe their faith and enter into Church-covenant after this they doe at this same time or some other all being together elect their own Officers as Pastor Teacher Elders Deacons if they have fit men enough to supply these places else as many of them as they can bee provided of then they set another day for the Ordination of their said Officers hh Answer to the 32 questions p. 36. If Church-communion and the exercise of such Ordinances as Christ hath appointed for his Church was lawfull and needfull when Magistrates were enemies to the Gospel and be not so when Magistrates professe the Gospel we doe not see but Christians may sometime be losers by having Christian Magistrates and in worse condition then if they had none but professed enemies ibid. p. 41. It is our practise in Ordination of Ministers as also in removing of them to have the assistance of Ministers of other Churches but for authority and power we know none that Ministers have properly so called in any Congregation save that one over which the holy Ghost hath made them Over-seers and therefore we think it not lawfull when a Church is to Ordaine Officers to call in by way of authority or power the Ministers of other Churches ii Cottons Way p. 1. The Church to which Christ hath committed the censures is a combination of faithfull godly men meeting by common consent into one Congregation ibid. 7. Then such whose hearts God teacheth often meet together about the things of God and performe some duties of prayer and spirituall conference together till a sufficient company of them be well satisfied in the spirituall good estate one of another and so have approved themselves to one anothers consciences in the sight of God as living stones fit to be laid in the Lords spiritull Temple ibid. p. 10. The Church being thus gathered as hath beene described Our next care is that it may be supplyed with all these Officers which Christ hath ordained kk Answer to the 32 Questions p. 43. We doe not finde that God doth anywhere say they must be above forty or else they cannot be a Church nay rather that speech of Christs of two or three gathered together in his name doth plainly imply that if there be a greater number then two or three
whom they being not satisfied in the answer of an offender may appeale unto and in so doing tell the Church such a small number may be a Church and may have the blessing of his presence to be among them ll Ibid. p. 8 9. When a visible Church is to be erected it is necessary that in respect of quantity it be no more in number in the dayes of the New Testament but so many as may meet in one Congregation mm Ibid. p. 15. The Church is before the Ministers seeing the power of chusing Ministers is given to the Church by Christ nn Ibid. p. 68. The Church that hath no Officers may elect Officers unto themselves therefore it may also ordaine them if it hath power from Christ for the one and that the greater it hath also for the other which is the lesser now Ordination is lesse then Election oo Ibid. p. 42. Vnto the 13 question whether you think it convenient that a company of private and illiterate persons should ordinarily examine elect ordaine and depose their Ministers a part of the answer to this question is if there were none among them who had humane learning we doe not see how this could hinder them of their Liberty to chuse Ministers purchased to them by Christs precious blood for they that are fit matter to be combined into a Church body have learned the Doctrine of the holy Scriptures in the fundamentall points thereof they have learned to know the Lord in their owne hearts therefore they may not bee reproached as illiterate or unworthy to chuse their owne Ministers nay they have the best learning without which all other learning is but madnesse and folly pp Plaine Dealing p. 3. They set a day for the Ordination of their Officers and appoint some of themselves to impose hands upon them where there are Ministers or Elders before they impose their hands upon the new Officers but where there is none there some of their chiefest men two or three of good report amongst them though not of the Ministry doe by appointment of the same Church lay hands upon them Cottons way p. 40 41. Towards the end of the day one of the Elders of the Church if they have any if not one of the graver Brethren of the Church appointed by themselves to order the work of the day standeth up and enquireth in the Church c. he advertiseth him who is chosen what duties the Lord requireth of him in that place towards the Church then with the Presbytery of that Church if they have any or if not with two or three others of the gravest Christians among the Brethren of that Church being deputed by the body he doth in the name of the Lord Jesus ordaine him to that Office with imposition of hands calling upon the Lord and so turning the speech to the person on whom their hands are imposed he as the mouth of the Presbytery expresses their Ordination of him and puts a solemne charge upon him to look well to himselfe and the flock After this the Elders of other Churches present observing the presence of God in the orderly proceeding of the Church to the Officers Election and Ordination one of them in the name of all the rest doth give unto him the right hand of Fellowship in the sight of all the Assembly qq Answer to the 32 questions p. 48. If the Church hath power by election to chuse a Minister and so power of instituting him then of destituting also Instituere destituere ejusdem est potestatis rr Ibid. p. 44. We conceive that every Church properly so called though they bee not above ten persons or the least number that you mention have right and power from Christ to transact all their owne Ecclesiasticall businesse if so be they be able and carry matters justly for the power of the Keyes Matth. 16.19 is committed by Christ unto the Church ss Cottons Catechism p. 10. It is committed to the Presbytery to prepare matters for the Churches hearing tt Answer to the 32 quest p. 60. In this sense matters with us are carried according to the vote of the major part that is with the joynt consent of the whole Church but yet because it is the mind of Christ ww The propositions to which almost all our Elders did agree when they were assembled together the first the Fraternity is the first subject of all Presbyteriall power radicaliter id est causatim per modum collationis non habitualiter non actualiter non formaliter xx Anatom p. 26. I heare of no ruling Elders that ever Mr Simpson had in his Church Anatomist anatomised p. 12. It is true de facto wee had none but were resolved to have them Notwithstanding this answer of Mr Simpsons that Church of Rotterdam to this day hath never had a Presbytery after more then seven yeares delay yy Antap. p. 52. Pastors are necessary Officers in your Churches and yet according to your practises your Churches are many yeares without them zz Keyes p. 10. Authority is a morall power and a superiour Order or State binding or releasing an inferiour in point of subjection Christ hath given no Iurisdiction but to whom he hath given office The Key of power in a large sense or Liberty is in the Church but the Key of authority or rule in a more strict sense is in the Elders of the Church aaa Excommunication is one of the highest acts of Rule and therfore cannot bee performed but by some Rulers now where all the Elders are culpable there be no Rulers left in that Church to censure them as therefore the Presbytery cannot excommunicate the whole Church though apostate for they must tell the Church and joyne with the Church in that censure so neither can the Church excommunicate the whole Presbytery because they have not received from Christ an Office of Rule without their Officers Ib. preface p. 4. He gives unto the Elders or Presbytery a binding power of Rule and Authority peculiar unto them and to the Brethren distinct and apart an interest of power and priviledge to concurre with them and that such affaires should not be transacted but with the joynt agreement of both though out of a different Right so that as a Church of Brethren only could not proceed to any publike censures without they have Elders over them so neither in the Church have the Elders power to censure without the concurrence of the people so as each alone have not power of excommunicating the whole of either though together they have power over any particular person or persons in each bbb Ibid. also Keyes p. 13. Else the Brethren have a power of order and the priviledge to expostulate with their brethren in case of private scandals so in case of publike scandall the whole Church of brethren have power and priviledge to joyne with the Elders in inquiring hearing judging of publike scandals so as to bind notorius offenders and impenitents under censure and
fellowshippe especially with the Saints is a preservative against the beginnings of evill and a retractive therefrom when begunne Every gratious neighbour is a Counsellour and Pedagogue the greater the incorporation is of such the better is every Member directed and the more strengthened Hence the goodnesse of God hath ordained not onely the planting of particular men into a small body of one single Congregation but for the greater security both of Persons and Congregations the Lord hath increased that Communion of Churches by binding neighbour Congregations in a larger and stronger Body of a Presbytery or Classis yea a number of Presbyteryes by the same hand of God are combined in a Synode neither this onely but for the strengthening of every stone and of the whole building the Lord hath appointed the largest societies that are possible the very Church universall and the representation thereof an Oecumenick Assembly This congregative way is divine the dissolution of humane societies especially of Ecclesiasticke Assemblyes must be from another Spirit The first we know to have opposed the holy Societyes we speake of were Anabaptists who liking a Catholicke anarchy in all things and pressing an universall liberty did strive to cut in peeces all the bands as of Politicke and Oeconomick union whereby Kingdomes and States Cities and Familyes did stand so also of the Ecclesiasticke conjunction making every person at last fully free from all servitude and simply independent or uncontrolable in any of his owne opinions or desires by any mortall man Their first follower among the reformed was one John Moreau a Parisian who in the French Churches did vent the Independency of Congregations from Synods and the popular government of these Independent Congregations But his scismatick pamphlet came no sooner abroad then the French Divines did most unanimously trample upon it In their generall Assembly at Rochell most Reverend Beza Moderator for the time and in their next Assembly Learned Sadeell with others did so fully confute these Anabaptistick follies that thereafter in France this evill Spirit did never so much as whisper only in Holland in the Arminian times it began to speake by the tongue of Grotius and others of his fellowes who being conscious to themselves of Tenets whereunto they despared the assent of any Synode yea fearing to be prejudged in the propagation of their errours by a crosse Sentence of a Nationall Assembly did set themselves to call in question and at last to deny the Authority and Jurisdiction of all Church meetings But when the goodnesse of God in that happy Synode of Dort did crush the other errours of that Party this their fansie did evanish and since in these bounds hath beene buried in Oblivion By what meanes this Anabaptistick roote which neither France nor Holland could beare when Grotius and Morellius did assay to plant it doth thrive so well in England after Browne and Barrow with their followers did become its dressers I have declared at length before However the Novelty of the Tenet the Infamie of its Authours the evill successe it hath had whereever yet it hath set up the head doth burden it with so just contempt that all further audience might be denyed thereto yet in this impudent and malapertage where the greatest absurdityes will importunately ingyre themselves and require beleefe as unanswerable and most covincing truths unlesse in a full hearing their naughtinesse be demonstrate we are content without all prejudices to reason the matter it selfe from the ground and to require no man to hate this errour for its Authours or any externall consideration unlesse it be cleerely showne to be contrary to the revealed will of God The state of the Question hath no perplexitie if its termes were cleared The Brownists affirme that every Parish Church that every single Congregation is Independent from any Presbytery any Synod any Assembly This we deny affirming the true dependence and subordination of Parochiall Congregations to Presbyteries and of these to Synods to which we ascribe power authority and Jurisdisdiction Before wee fall to reasoning let us understand the words which in this debate doe frequently occurre First what is a Parochiall Church or single Congregation Secondly What is its independence Thirdly What is a Presbytery and a Presbyteriall Church Fourthly What is a Synod Fifthly What is Authoritie and Jurisdiction Ecclesiasticall We intend no definitions but such popular descriptions as may make cleare what the parties use to understand by these words A particular Church a Parish or Congregation in this Question is taken for a company of faithfull people every one whereof in the face of the whole Congregation hath given so cleare tokens of their true grace and regeneration as hath satisfied the minde of all A company I say incorporate by a particular Covenant and Oath to exercise all the parts of Christian Religion in one place under one Pastor Our Opposits affirme that in one Church there must be but one Pastor assisted indeede with a Doctor and three or foure Elders yet no more Pastors but one They will admit into a Church no more people then commodiously and at their ease may convene in one house how few they be they care not ten families or forty persons to them are a faire Church you have heard that some of their Churches have beene within the number of foure persons Independencie is the full liberty of such a Church to discharge all the parts of Religion Doctrine Sacraments Discipline and all within it selfe without all dependence all subordination to any other on earth more or fewer so that the smallest Congregation suppose of three persons though it fall into the grossest heresies may not be controlled by any Orthodoxe Synod were it Oecumenicke of all the Churches on earth A Presbytery as it is called in Scotland or a Classis as in Holland or a Collogue as in France is an ordinary meeting of the Pastors of the Churches neerly neighbouring of the ruling Elders deputed therefrom for the exercise chiefely of discipline so farre as concernes these neighbouring Churches in common A Presbyteriall Church is a company of Professors governed by one Prysbytery who for the exercise of Religion meete in diverse places or who have moe Pastors then one A Synod is a convention of Pastors and Elders sent and deputed from diverse Presbyteries meeting either ordinarily or upon occasion for the affaires that are common to those that sent them Ecclesiasticke Jurisdiction is a right and power not onely by advice to counsell and direct but by authority given of God to injoyne and to performe according to the rule of Scriptures these things which concern the Ordination of Ministers the deciding of Ecclesiasticall Causes the determination of Doctrines the inflicting of Censures c. The signification of these words being presupposed the state of the Question or minde of the parties can not be obscure The first Argumen for the truth I cast into this Forme Every Independent
when they proceeded with censure against those who deserved it and are dispraysed when they held in the sword of excommunication and did not cast out Hereticks and prophane Persons Answ Both the Propositions are vitious The Major because the Churches in Asia were Presbyteriall not Congregationall This we proved of Ephesus and we know no reason why the rest should not be of that same condition Secondly Albeit the Churches of Asia at that time in the first preaching of the Gospell and so in the great paucity of Churches should have had no Neighbours with whom commodiously and ordinarily they could keepe society what is that unto the Churches of our dayes who live in the midst of many Sisters The Minor also may not be granted for that which the Text ascribeth to the Angell may not by and by be applyed to every Member of the Church We grant that great reason and many authorities doe prove and evince that the Angells in those places cannot be expounded of the single persons of Bishops but of the whole Body of the Presbytery in the which there was one man chosen by the Suffrages of the rest President for a time but that by the name of Angell should be understood every Member of the Church no reason will carry it Beside there is no consequence from one act of reproofe to the whole right of Ecclesiasticke government even in every case for a common cause and an appearance of errour and many other things will inforce a necessity of subordination Their fourth argument The right of the Church of Thessalonica and Colosse belongs to every Church But the Church of Thessalonica and Colosse had right to exercise every part of Ecclesiasticke discipline within their owne bounds Of the first see 2 Thessalonians 3.6 Withdraw your selves from every Brother which walketh disorderly and ver 24. Note that man and have no company with him that he may be ashamed Of the second see Col. 2.5 Joying and beholding your Order Ans Let the Maior be true of all the Churches of the same Species and Nature with these of Thessalonica and Colosse that is of all Presbyteriall That the Church of Thessalonica was such that it had moe Pastors it is proved from the 1 to the Thessalonians 5.12 Know them which labour among you and are over you in the Lord and admonish you that these were Pastors it is the minde of the best Interpreters Also that in Colosse beside others Epaphras and Archippus did labour in the word and doctrine is manifest from chap. 1. ver 7. and chap. 4.17 Further let the Maior be true of all Churches of that same state and condition with those named to wit when it falls out that few or no Neighbour Churches can be had with which such a society may be kept Concerning the Minor suppose that both the right and the exercise of all Ecclesiasticke acts were granted to the foresaid Churches yet the question is not touched except you adde independently and in every cause and case even of aberration and that without all remedy of appeale to any Synode Vpon this hinge the Question depends and of this the argument hath nothing Their fifth argument That which abolishes our liberty purchased by Christs blood and puts upon out necke a yoke equall to the Antichristian tyranny of Bishops is intolerable But the dependence of Congregations upon Presbyteries and Synods doth so Ans The Minor is false for the subordination of Churches imports no slavery taketh away no liberty which God hath granted it is Gods Discipline and Order it is the easie yoake of Christ not to be compared with the cruell bands of Bishops since the one is humane the other divine by the meanes of the one one man commandeth either according to his free will or according to the Canon-Law of the Pope but by the meanes of the other moe men advise in common according to the acts of the Reformed Churches grounded upon the Word of God The judgement seates of Bishops are meerely externall to the Church which they governe But Presbyteries and Synods are Courts internall for the onely members whereof they consist are the Comissioners of the Churches which they govern these Churches they represent the minde and desire of these Churches they doe propose unto these Churches they give account of all their administration they confirme and establish the rights of Congregations they doe not abolish nor labefactate any of them Sixthly These who have power to chuse the Pastor have also the right of the whole Ecclesiastick Discipline But every Parish hath that power Answ The Major is not necessary for there is a great difference betwixt the Election of Ministers and Ministers Ordination Deposition Excommunication and many other acts of Discipline Election is no act of Authority or Jurisdiction The Minor also is not true if you understand it of all the members of the Congregation for it is not needfull that Ministers should be chosen by the expresse voyce of every man muchlesse of every woman of the flocke Yea that Election doth not alwayes belong to the whole flocke except yee take election as many seeme to doe for a consent with reason to the which is opposed not every but a rationall dissent grounded upon cleare equity and justice certainely it is needfull at sometimes to misregard the peoples consent in chusing of a Pastor for why should not a flocke infected with heresie be set under an wholesome and Orthodox Shepheard whether it will or not and be rent from under the Ministrie of an hereticall Shepheard how much soever against its owne minde Their seventh argument That is not of God which maketh Pastors Bishops of other mens Diocesses and layes upon them the care of other Congregations then those to which the holy Ghost hath made them Overseers But the subordination of Parishes to Presbyteries and Synods doth this Answ The Minor is false for neither doth every member of a Presbytery become a Pastor to every Congregation subordinate to that Presbytery neither are Congregations consociated and conjoyned in a Presbytery altogether without the reach of the care and inspection of neighbour Pastors This is cleare not onely by the arguments formerly deduced from Scripture but by the daily practice of the Adversaries for themselves professe their care to oversee and admonish and rebuke and to use many other gracious actions as they have occasion towards neighbouring Churches without any blame of busie Bishops There is almost no difference at all of their acts and ours toward neighbouring Churches so farre as concernes the matter the onely question is concerning the fountaines and grounds of these acts they ascribing their actions onely to charity we not to charity alone but to authority grounded upon the former reasons This difference belongs not to the present plea. Their eight argument Onely Christ hath authority over the Kingdome of God the House of God the holy Jerusalem his owne Spouse his owne
antiquity as our Brethren It is marvellous if in earnest they should encourage themselves in their Tenet by such testimonies of the Fathers as by the Catholick consent of all posterior antiquity and the unanimous profession both of Protestants and Papists this day are censured of error Who pleases to know the minde of antiquity in this subject Let him consult especially with Augustin de civitate dei Booke 20. almost through the whole and the Commentaries of Vives and Coqueus thereupon If humane authorities either ancient or moderne could give our Brethren any satisfaction in this question it were easie to present them with great store thereof Thus farre had I proceeded when by my Superiours I was called away from these Studies to an other imployment so what I intended to have spoken to the Anabaptists the Antinomians the Erastians and especially to the remainder of the Popish and Prelaticall Malignants I must remit it to another Season FINIS Isa 2. ● Mic. 4.3 Ioel 3. ● The first and chief Mean to extinguish the flames of our War is the waters of the heart poured out in prayers to God Lam. 2.3 Reformation after mourning is the second step to a solid peace Prov. 16.7 Psal 81.15 2 King 9.22 The corruption of the Church is the fountain of our present Misery The State cannot be 〈◊〉 til the Church be s●●● reformed Every man must help what he can to recover the languishing Church from her desperate Disease The offer of a strange and easie remedy of a ●ooking-glass The malignity of Errour 2 Tim. 2.17 ● Pet. 2.1 2 3 4 The Authors intention is to set down in a Table for the clear view of all the Errors which trouble us And that with justice lo●● towards all persons Onely forth is r●ga●n●ng to the Truth The partition of the ensuing ●reatise Episcopacy was the Mother of all our present Sects Presbytery will be their Grave The Presbyteriall way of proceeding What England 〈◊〉 may expect from Presbyteries and Synods Satan is the great enemy of the Churches Reformation His chief instruments always have been professed friends to Religion Reformation at the beginning did run with an impetuous current What was its first stop The fountain of Protestant D●scord The unhappy Principle of the Lut●eranes And the more unhappy Principle of the Anabaptists Somewhat of both these ways was entertained in England The original of the English Ceremonies and Episcopacy The original of the Separatists Brownism is a daughter of Anabaptism Bolton the first known Separatist in England hanged himself Brown the second L●ader of that way ●ecanted his Schism and to his death was a very scandalous person The humour of Barrow the third Master of this Sect. The strange carriage of Johnson and Ainsworth the next two Leaders of the Brownists The horrible ways of Smi●● their sixth Master The fearful end of Smith his wandrings A remarkable vengeance upon an erring spirit Robinson the last grave and learned Doctor of the Brownists did in the end undermine his Party Robinson the author of Independency They hold that all Churches in the world but their own are so polluted that they must be separate from Their injurious slanders of the Church of England Yet sometimes they say that communion may be kept therewith both in preaching and prayer Their like dealing with all the other reformed Their st●ing of 〈◊〉 Chu● 〈…〉 The matter of a Church they make to be real Saints onely Their unreasonable stricknesse in this one point is the great cause of their Schism The least sin of any Member of a Church defended is a just cause of Separation They place the Form of their Church in an expresse Covenant Seven may make a perfect Church yea two or three The erecting of a Church requireth neither the Magistrates nor Ministers assistance They put all Church power in a handful of people without any Pastor The Election Ordination Deposition and Excommunication of the Minister belongs to the flock and to it alone Every man of the Congregation may Preach and publikely rebuke not onely the Pastor but the whole flock yea and s●parate from it Some of them give the power of the Sacraments also to pri●ate persons The solemnizing of marriage they give to parents but divorces they commit to the parties themselves They make every Congregation Independent and of soveraign Authority Their Judgement of Synods Their high conceit of their own way and injurious depressing of all others Churches Bells Pulpits Tithes Glebes Manses and all set maintenance of Ministers are unlawful Not so much as a Church-yard must be kept up for burial but all must bury in the fields They drive the abolishing of Church-rents so high as to make all goods common The days of the we●k the moneths the yeer of God they will not name No pulpits no hour-gl●sses no Churches no Gowns All set prayer even the Lords prayer and all Psalms in meeter yea in prose if used as praises are unlawful Their opinion of preaching Sacraments Their stra●ge way of celebrating the Lords Supper They reject catechisms the Apostles Creed and all reading of Scripture without exposition After preaching they prophesie Then comes the conference Brown for liberty of conscience His followers against it Their carriage towards the Magistrate They spoil Kings and Parliaments of their Legislative power They obliege the Magistrate to kill all Idolaters But to sp●re all theeves They wil have the Universities destroyed Secular authors and learning must be abolished Preachers must studie no book but the Scriptures Independency the smallest of all the Sects of the time for number but greatest for worth of its followers The division of the following matter Independents the Separatist● off-spring When the fire of Brownism was dying out in Holland a little of its ashes carried to New England broke out there into a lasting flame By what means these ashes were kindled Master Cotton at first a great opposite to that way Master Cotton with little ado became the great patron of that Errour Master Cotton the misleader of Master Goodwin and others Master Cotton often deceived hath given his patrociny to divers grosse Errours Why God permits great men to fall in evident Errours His Prelatical Arminian and Montanistick Tenents His Antinomy and Familism Independency large as unhappy as Brownism Wherefore so much of the Independent way lies yet in darknesse The fruits of Independency in New England 1. It put thousands of Christians in the condition of Pagans 2. It marrs the conversion of Pagans to the Christian Religion 3. It did bring forth the foulest Heresies that ever yet were heard of in any Protestant Church A few examples of the many abominable Heresies of the New-English Independents The greatest part of th●ir chief Churches were infected with these errours Th● pi●●ty of these Hereticks seem●d to be singular Their malice against all who opposed them was singular especially against all their Orthodox Ministers and Magistrates Their Errours in opinion did
draw on such seditious practises as did well neer overturn both their Church and State Their proud obstinacy against all admonitions was marvellous In the midst of their profession of eminent piety the profanity of many of them was great Notwithstanding all this we desire from our heart to honour and imitate all and every degree of Truth or Piety which did ever appear in any New-English Christian Independency no fruitful Tree in Holland Master Peter● the first Planter of that Weed at Roterdam Their Ministers Master Bridge Master Simpson and Master Ward renounced their English Ordination and as meer private men took new Ordination from the people Incontinent they did fall into shameful divisions and subdivisions The people without any just cause deposed their Minister The Commissioners from Arnhem durst not come neer the bottom of the businesse The Schisms at Roterdam were more irreconcileable then those at Amsterdam Anabaptism is like to spoil that Church They of the Church of Arnhem admire and praise themselves above all measure The easinesse of their banishment and afflictions The new light at Arnhem broke out into a number of strange Errours First Grosse Chiliasm Secondly The grossest blasphemy of the Libertines that God is the Author of the very sinfulnesse of sin Thirdly the fancy of the Enthusiasts in knowing God as God abstracted from Scripture from Christ from Grace and from all his attributes Fourthly The old Popish Ceremonies of extreme Unction and the holy kisse of Peace Fifthly The discharging of the Psalms the appointing of a singing Prophet to chant the Songs made by himself in the silence of all others Sixthly The mortality of the soul Seventhly the conveniency for Ministers to Preach covered and celebrate the Sacraments discovered but for the people to hear discovered and to participate the Sacraments covered Their publike contentions were shameful The work of the prime Independents of New England Arnheim and Roterdam these five yeers at London They did hinder with all their power so long as they were able the calling of the Assembly When it was called they retarded its proceedings That the Churches of England and Ireland lie so long in confuon neither Papists nor Prelates nor Malignants have been the cause But the Independents working according to their principles The great mischief of that Anarchy wherin they have kept the Churches of England and Ireland for so long a time Independency is the mother of more Hereresies and Schisms at London then Amsterdam ever knew Independency at London doth not onely bring forth but nourish and patronize Heresies and Schisms contrary to its custom either in New-England or Amsterdam How hazardous it may prove to the State of England Why it is hard to set downe the Independents positions They have declined to declare their Tenets more then has ever been the custome of any Orthodox Divines When they shal bee pleased to declare themselves to the full their principle of change will hinder thē to assure us that any thing is their settled and firm Tenet wherein they will bee constant The chief Tenets which hitherto they have given out and not yet recal●ed are these following They reject the name of Independents unreasonably and for their own disadvantage When it is laid aside the more infamous name of Brownists and Separatists wil justly fall upon them They avow a Semi-Separation but a Sesqui-Separation will bee proved upon them The Independents doe separate from all the Reformed Churches upon farre worse grounds then the Brownists were wont to separate Their acknowledgment of the Reformed for true Churches doth not diminish but encrease their Shisme They refuse all Church communion and membership in all the Reformed Churches they preach and pray in them as they would doe among P●gans only as g●ft●d men to gather new Churches About the matter of the Church and qualification of members they are large as strict as the Brownists admitting none but who convinces the whole Congregation of their reall regeneration Besides true grace they require a sutablenesse of spirit But in this they are laxer then the Brownists that they can take in without scruple Anabaptists Antinomians others who both in life doctrine have evident blots if so they bee zealous and serviceable for their way About the forme of the Church a Church Covenant they are more punctuall then the Brownists They take the power of gathering and erecting of Churches both from Magistrates and Ministers placing it only in the hands of a few private Christians who are willing to make among themselves a Church covenant This power of erecting themselves into a compleat and perfect church they give to any seven persons neither admit they more into a Church then can altogether in one place commodiously administer the Sacraments Discipline The Independents will have all the standing Churches in England dissolved and all their Ministers to become meerly private men and any three persons of their way to bee a full Church Vnto this Church of seven persons they give all and the whole Church power and that independently Vnto this congregationall Church alone they give the full power of election and ordination of deposition and excommunication even of all their officers and of the finall determination of all Ecclesiastick causes The difference of Iohnson and Ainsworth about the power of the people and presbytery distinct one from the other is not yet composed among the Independents The common Doctrine of New England is Ainsworths Tenet that the people a●one have all the power may excommunicate when there is cause all their officers Mr Cotton the other year did fall much from them and himselfe towards Iohnson that the whole power of authority is only in the Officers and the people have no●hing but the power of liberty to concurre that the Officers can doe nothing without the people nor the people any thing but by the Officers Yet that both officers people or any one of them have power to separate themselvs from all the rest when they find cause The London Independents give more power of Ecclesiastick Iurisdiction then the Brownists unto women Some of them permit private men to celebrate the Sacraments Brownists and Independents do perfectly agree in the point of Independency If a corrupt or negligent Presbytery doe not censure their own members all the Assemblies in the world may not attempt to censure any of them though most apparently they did corrupt a whole Nation with the grossest Heresies or most scandalous vices The point of Independency is either the root or the fruit of many errors To temper the crudity of this Tenet they adde to it three moderating positions but for little purpose They grant the being of Synods but not of Classicall Presbyteries Their Synods are meerely Brownisticall without all Iurisdiction wherein every one of the people may vote also meerely elective and only occasionall The sentence of Non-Communion is Mr Cottons invention to supply that defect which themselves make in the
alone 177 Seventhly the Apostles appointed none to preach but ●ders ibid. Eigthly the preaching of men out of office is a meanes of confusion and errour ibid. The contrary arguments which Mr Cotton in his Catechism and Answer to the 32 Questions borrowes from Robinson answered 178 Chap. 9. Whether the power of Ecclesiastick Iurisdiction belongs to the people or to the Presbytery What is meant by Ecclesiastick Iurisdiction 181 The state of the Question ibid. For the Negative that the people have no power of Iurisdiction we reason First The Officers alone are Governours and the people are to be governed p. 183 Secondly the people have not the Keyes of heaven to binde and loose p. 184 Thirdly the people are not the eyes and eares in Christs body for so all the body should be eyes and eares ibid. Fourthly the people have not any promise of gifts sufficient for government ibid. Fifthly the popular government brings in confusion making the feet above the head p. 185 Sixthly the people have not the power of Ordination p. 186 Seventhly this power in the people would disable them in their Callings p. 187 Eigthly this power of the people would bring in Morellius Democracy and Anarchy in the Church ibid. Ninthly this power of the people will draw upon them the power of the Word and Sacraments p. 188 Mr Cottons ten contrary arguments answered p. 189 Chap. 10. Independency is contrary to Gods Word God is the Authour of the union and dependency of particular Churches p. 196 Separation and Independency were the Anabaptists inventions ibid. From them Morellius and Grotius learned the Tenet p. 197 The state of the Question cleared ibid. That single Congregations are not independent is proved First from 1 Tim. 4.14 p. 199 The second argument from the Apostolick Churches which exercised full Iurisdiction the chiefe whereof if not all were Presbyteriall and not Parochiall p. 202 Our third argument from the subordination of the Church of Antioch to the Synod at Ierusalem Acts 15. p. 205 Our fourth argument from the subordination of fewer to more appointed by Christ Matth. 8. p. 209 Our fifth argument from the evill consequents which reason and experience demonstrate to follow Independency necessarily and naturally p. 212 Our last argument Independency is contrary to all the Discipline that ever was knowne in Christendome before the Anabaptists p. 215 The first objection or argument for Independency from Matth. 18. p. 216 The second objection is taken from the practise of the Corinthians excommunicating the incestuous man p. 218 The third objection from the example of the seven Churches of Asia p. 220 Their fourth objection from the practise of the Church●s Thessalonica and Colosse ibid. The fifth sixth seventh and eigth objection p. 223 Chap. 11. The thousand yeares of Christ his visible Raigne upon Earth is against Scripture The Originall and progresse of Chiliasme ibid. The mind of the Indep●ndent Chiliasts ibid. Our first reason against the Chiliasts is that Christ from his Ascention to the last Iudgement abides in Heaven p. 225 Our second reason is built on Christs sitting at the right hand of God till the day of Iudgement p. 227 Our third reason is grounded on the Resurrection of the dead the Godly and ungodly doe all rise together at the last day p. 228 Our fourth reason is builded on Christs Kingdome which is spirituall and not earthly p. 229 Our fifth reason is taken from the nature of the Church p. 230 A sixth reason from the secrecy of the time of Christs comming p. 231 A seventh reason from the Heavenly and eternall reward of the Martyrs p. 232 An eigth reason the restoration of an Earthly Ierusalem brings backe the abolished figures of the Law p. 233 A ninth Antichrist is not abolisht till the day of Iudgement ibid. The Chiliasts first reason is from Revel 20. 4. p. 234 Our new Chi●iasts are Inventors of a new Heaven and of a new Hell p. 236 Twelve other reasons of the Chiliasts answered p. 237 The PREFACE WHile the fire of War continues to scorch every one of these miserable Dominions it is the duty of all compassionate Countrey-men to contribute the uttermost of their best endeavours for the extinguishing of these unhappie Flames before the remainder of all our Churches and States be burnt down to ashes Too much Oil already hath dropped from many unhallowed Pens the times now do passionately call for Waters and them the more cold and clear the better for quenching the thirst of this devouring Beast Vinegar and Gall though in the largest measures whole rivers of Blood will not allay but augment the heat of a Civil War The most hopeful Peace-makers from whose intermedling the greatest successe is to be expected are they whose vessels are filled most plentifully with tears to be poured out before the Throne of God The fire which this day prevails against us which burns up not the flesh onely but the very bones of our Kingdoms is from above it is the Lord who burns against Iacob like a flaming fire which devours round about When the scorching heat of the Sun dries up the moisture from the grasse and corn there is no remedy for the languishing fields till the vapours ascend from below and thicken in a cloud then incontinent the burning beams are intercepted the showres descend from above to refresh and renew the withered face of the parched ground The most seasonable exercise of al who love the peace of Ierusalem is to fill the air with the exhalations of their Spirits with the perfumes arising from the kindled Incense of their Prayers much of these holy vapours will hardly make up one cloud wherefore many hearts would daily be breathing up together some store of that heavenly smoke However for a time all our endeavours may seem to be quite evanished and when we have gone out to behold much ofter then seven times there may appear to our eye not so much as the smallest beginning of the least cloud yet when the period of Gods appointed season is come when the three yeers and six moneths are past over and gone there will certainly arise a cloud which however at first very small and no broader then a hand yet will quickly become so big as to fill the heavens with voices and send down to the wearied earth such plenty of rain as could be wished But to the end the waters of our Prayers may be the more acceptable in the sight of our Prince of Peace who alone dispenses at his pleasure to persons and Nations that very desirable and much longed-for blessing of quietnesse we must cleanse our hands of those crimes which have drawn down from the Throne of Justice that plague of War which so much this day doth vex and well-neer undo us If once our ways did please the Lord he would quickly make our enemies to be at peace with us If Israel did walk in his ways their enemies should soon
in matters of Civill Iustice as of devotion and holinesse mmmmmm 2 and if so then they must make it as unlawfull and contrary to the Scriptures perfection for any man to make Lawes in matters of Righteousnesse and of the State as in matters of Holinesse and of the Church That beside things in themselves good or evill which Scripture determines by its Lawes expresly things of an indifferent nature whereupon the most of civill Laws are made must be regulated according to the Scripture rules of Piety Charity and Conscience so farre that the expediency and reason of the Law must ever carry and convince the conscience of the Subject that no man is obliged to the obedience of a civill Law in a thing never so indifferent by the authority of the Law-giver but every man whose conscience is not convinced of the piety and charity of that Law is free from all obedience and subjection thereto Thus farre Mr Cotton mmmmmm 3. Eightly what men besides them have made so bold with Kings and Parliaments as not only to break in pieces their old Lawes and to divest them of all power to make new ones but also under the pretext of a divine right to put upon their necks that unsupportable yoak of the Iudiciall Law of the ●ewes for peace and for warre without any power to dispence either in addition or substraction nnnnnn 1 I grant this principle of Barrow is limited by Mr Cotton to such Iudicials as do containe in them a morall equity nnnnnn 2 but this morall equity is extended by him to so many particulars as Williams confesses the whole Iudiciall Law to be brought back again thereby no lesse then by the plaine simple and unlimited Tenet of the rigidest Brownists nnnnnn 3. Ninthly doth any Reformed Church appoint their Ministers to be members of the highest civill Courts with power of voiceing in the election of the supream Magistrate oooooo Do any Divines but theirs since the Bishops were abolished joyne themselves as companions with the Magistrates to draw out of Scripture a body of civill Lawes for the Government of the State pppppp Tenthly did ever any Divines but theirs so evidently mock the Magistrate by instructing him according to their own interest as it were from heaven to contradictory practises in New-England where the Magistrate is in their way to perswade him the necessity under paine of sinne and judgement to kill all Idolaters and false Prophets to destroy whole Cities men women and children who are seduced by a false Prophet qqqqqq Making a path-way by this meanes to the slaughter not only of all Papists and Hereticall Sects but also of many good Protestants who to the Brownists are Idolaters for the reading of Prayer and obstinate enemies of the Kingdom of Christ for their mislike of Independency according to the open profession of the prime Independents rrrrrr Their Doctrine in Old England where the Magistrate is out of their way is diametrally opposite to this for here they make it a Theomachy ssssss a fighting with God to deny a free liberty to Papists to the worst Heresies and Schisms to Iudaism Turcism Paganism or if any errour can be imagined to bee more pernicious I beleeve that few prudent Magistrates when they have well ruminated these and the like principles of the Independents will esteem them much more conducible for their ends then the principles of the Reformed Churches In the point of Schools and Learning how farre they will follow the Brownists I cannot say divers of them have as good a share in learning as their neighbours yet whatever they have of that kinde they got it all before they entred into their new way and whatever learning all of them do possesse it is no more then what was among the Brownists when they did most cry down learning The most of their erudition this day dwels in New-England that any reall course hath ever there been taken for its entertainment and propagation I have not heard much though the Magistrate and the whole Land have beene and are at their Devotion and till of late they had no apparant hope of supplying their way from the Schools of other parts of the world Were we not weary we might go on yet farther in the paralell especially in the doctrinall Tenets of the Independents wherein already they have gone farre beyond the Brownists you had a touch of the Arminianism of some in the reall Sanctification of all baptised Infants of the enthusiasms of others in their contemplations of God without Scripture of the Libertinism of a third blaspheming God as the Authour of the sinfulnesse of sin of the Arminian reprobation the Antinomian Montanist●ck and Familistick Tenets of a fourth for which I doubt if to this day they have given any satisfaction The whole City hath been filled these many yeares with the noise of the Socinianism of the fifth many of them are passionate for a full liberty of all Religions in every State The Apologists declare that they will have none cast out of the Church for any errours which are not fundamentall and how farre they will extend this principle who can know only it would seem that all the named errours which do lodge or have lodged as is alledged in their prime Leaders without any censure to this day must be taken within the compasse of errours tolerable not only in the State but in the purest Churches And if Arminian Socinian Anabaptistick Antinomian Familistick Enthusiastick errours be declared not fundamentall and tolerable in a Church what shall we say of Prelaticall Cassandrian and the most of the Popish Tenets that are no wayes so grosse Spalato and others have been at great paines to prove that none of all the Popish errours are fundamentall The Remonstrant Apologists labour to free the greatest Heresies that ever were in the Church such as Arrianism of old and Vorstianism of late from that infamy Certainly though our Brethren had kept in their principle of change and not declared their full resolution to go on farther then themselves or others have yet thought what already they have positively delivered giveth to the world just reason of doubt whither they may go and where at last they will stop their very swift and volant progresse The Testimonies of the sixth Chapter a ANtap p. 243. It was agreed upon that they out of hand should bring in a Narrative of their opinions wherein they differed from us and then should joyne with us in preaching against the Brownists and Anabaptists they never brought in their Narrative untill this day and though at full meetings of the Ministers they have been spoken unto and some Ministers have been sent from the Company to some of them and the Narrative was promised at such a time and then at such a time yet it was never performed and whereas the agreement in writing for our side was left in Mr Calamies hand Mr Nye comes after some
to forgive the repentant ccc The propositions 3. prop. The fraternity having authoritative concurrence with the Presbytery in Iudiciall acts ddd Keyes p. 16. Though the Church want authority to Excommunicate their Presbytery yet they want not liberty to withdraw from them eee Keyes Preface p. 5. When we first read this of this learned Author knowing what hath been the more generall current both of the practice and judgement of our brethren for the Congregationall way wee confesse we were filled with wonderment at that Divine hand that had thus led the judgements without the least mutuall interchange or intimation of thoughts or notions in these particticular of our brethren there and our selves here fff Ibid. Onely wee crave leave of the reverend Author to declare that wee assent not to all expressions c. Vide supra ggg Tabula Potestas charitativa merè est primo frat●um Presbyterorum charitativè non politicè ambulantium secundo sororum hhh Vide supra Chap. 4. F iii Vide supra Chap. 3. M kkk Bastwicks Independency p. 99. The fifth Quaere is whether the women and people as well as the Ministers have the Keyes and whether the women have all their votes in the Church both for election and reprobation of Members and Officers as well as the men and whether the consent of all the women and the greatest part of them be requisite for the making of any one a member or officer so that if they gain-say it being the greater number or allow of it the most voyces carry the businesse the practice of this the brethren in some of their Congregations hold for Orthodox Mr Prynnes Fresh Discovery in his Dedicatory Epistle to the Parliament p. 5. And to interest the femall Sex and draw them to their party they allow them not only decisive votes but liberty of preaching prophesying speaking in their Congregatitions lll Keyes p. 6. We be farre from allowing that sacrilegious usurpation of the Ministers Office which we heare of to our griefe to be practised in some places that private Christians ordinarily take upon them to preach the Gospel publikely and to Minister the Sacraments Katharine Chidleys Iustification of the Independent Churches p. 28. Yet that the Church must want the Word preached or the Sacraments administred till they have Pastors and Teachers in Office is yet to be proved but that which hath been alledged is sufficient to prove that the family must not be unprovided for either for the absence or the negligence of a Steward mmm Keyes p. 53. A particular Congregation being the first subject of the Church power is unavoidably Independent upon any other Church or body for the exercise thereof for the first subject of any accident or adjunct is Independent upon any other either for the enjoying or for the imploying the having or using of the same nnn Vide supra mmm ooo Answer to the 32 Questions p. 36. For Dependency upon men or other Churches or other Subordination unto them in regard of Church-Government or power we know not of any such appointed by Christ in his Word ppp Welds Answer to Rathband 14. chap. Our Churches are tender to perswade men to act without light much more to command or to compell both which very words though the thing required were lawfull are odious in the Churches of Christ most fitly becomming the Synagogues of Anti-christ qqq Vide Cottons Keyes p. 8. infra zzz rrr Cottons Catechisme p. 13. All the Churches thereabout may meet together and by the Word of God may confute and condemn such errours in doctrine or practice as are offensive to prevent the spreading either of the gangrene of heresie or of the leprosie of sin and if the Church offending shall not yet hearken unto their brethren though the rest of the Churches have not power to deliver them to Satan yet they have power to draw from them the right hand of Fellowship Vide infra sss sss Keyes p. 57. In the Election and Ordination of Officers and censure of offenders let it suffice the Churches consociate to assist one another with their counsel but let them not put forth the power of their Community to take such Church Censures out of their hands let Synods have their just authority in all Churches how pure so ever in determining such diataxeis as are requisite for the edification of all Churches Keyes Preface p. 4. Hee acknowledgeth that Synods or Classes are an Ordinance of Christ unto whom Christ hath committed a due and just measure of power furnishing them not onely with ability to give counsell but also a Ministeriall power and Authority to determine declare and enjoyne such things as may tend to the reducing of Congregations to right order and peace but not arming them with power of Excommunicating either Congregations or their members they are to leave the former act of this censure to that Authority which can only execute it placed by Christ in these Churches themselves which if they deny to doe or persist in their miscarriage then the Synod may determine to withdraw communion from them ttt Ibid. www Keyes p. 50.51 The Magistates addresse themselves to the establishment of Religion and Reformation of corruptions by civill punishments upon the wilfull opposers Iosiah put to death Idolatrous Priests nor was that a peculiar duty of the Kings of Iuda for of the times of the New-Testament it is Prophesied that in some cases capitall punishment shall proceed against false prophets xxx Keyes Preface p. 4. Hee asserteth an association of Churches sending their Elders and Messengers into a Synod so hee purposely chuseth to stile these Assemblies of Elders which the Reformed Churches doe call Classes or Presbyteries yyy Cottons Catechisme p. 3. The office or work of the ruling Elders is to moderate the carriage of all matters of the Church Assembled as to propound matters to the Church and to order the season of speech and silence in the Church zzz Keyes p. 48. The pattern of Synods is set before us Acts 15. There the Apostles assembled together with the Elders and a multitude of brethren together with them the whole Synod being satisfied determine of a Iudiciall sentence and of a way to publish it by Letters and Messengers so the matter is at last judged in a Congregation of Churches in a Church of Churches for what is a Synod else but a Church of Churches ibid. p 57. All the liberties of Churches were purchased to them by the precius blood of the Lord Iesus and therefore neither may the Churches give them away nor many Churches take them out of the hands of one aaaa Keyes Preface p. 6. In all humility wee yet see not that assembly of Apostles Elders and brethren Acts 15 to have been a formall Synod bbbb 1 Ibid. 4. He a●knowledgeth a Synod to be an Ordinance of God in relation to the rectifying of male administrations and healing dissentions in particular Congregations and the like cases in such cases
make the Temple a type not only of Christs body and the Church universall but of every Congregation yet by what Scripture will they make legall uncleannesse typifie the estate of irregeneration And above all how will they make the exclusion from the Temple for legall uncleanesse a type of rejection from Church-membership for irregeneration Nothing more common then legall cleanesse in a person irregenerate and legall uncleanesse in a person regenerate Legall uncleanesse did never hinder any from Church-membership under the old Testament albeit for a time it might impede their fellowship in some services but irregeneration did never hinder communion in any service It is a question whether very scandalous sins did keep men ceremonially clean from the Temple and Sacrifices but out of all doubt irregeneration alone was never a bar to keep any from the most holy and most solemn services whether of the Tabernacle or Temple There are two other arguments couched in the conclusion of the debate First from the 3 of Matth. Iohn the Baptist excluded the Scribes and Pharisees and the profane people from his Baptism Ergo the officers and body of the people should not admit irregenerate people to be members of the Church Ans The consequence is not good from Iohn the Baptist to all the officers and body of the people nor from Baptism or any Sacrament to Church-membership nor from the Scribes Pharisees and profane people to every irregenerate person what loosnesse is in such reasoning But the worst is that the antecedent is clearly against the places of Scripture alledged Iohn the Baptist did not exclude either the Scribes or the Pharisees or the common people from his baptism but received all that came both the Scribes and Pharisees and Ierusalem and all Iudea and all the region about Iordan requiring no other condition for their admission to his Sacrament then the confession of sinne and promising of new obedience acts very feasable to irregenerate people His last argument is from Acts 8. Philip admitted none to his baptism but upon profession of Faith Ergo none should be admitted members of a Church without an evidence of their regeneration For shortnesse I mark but one fault in the consequence yet a very grosse one That profession of faith is made a certain argument of true grace and sanctification Will any of our Brethren be content to admit their members upon so slender tearms as Philip or any of the Apostles did require of their new converts Will the profession that Iesus is the Christ or such a confession of faith as Simon Magus and all the people of Samaria men and women after a little labour of Philip among them could make be an evident and convincing signe of regeneration Thus we have considered all Mr Cottons arguments let any man according to his conscience pronounce what strength he findes in any of them whether or not in them all together there be such firmnesse as to sustaine the unspeakable weight that is in the conclusion builded upon them I mean a necessity of separation from all the Reformed Churches except these of the Indepent way I may adde from them also and all else that ever have been in the world from the beginning to this houre for in none of them these hard conditions of satisfactory evidences of regeneration before persons can be admitted members were ever so much as required and among the Independents where these conditions have been required they were never found nor possibly can be found as they doe require them CHAP. VIII Concerning the right of Prophecying THe second question I propounded concerneth the dogmatick power so to call it of their Church-members They teach that the power of prophesie or publike preaching both within and without the Congregation belongeth to every man in their Church who hath ability to speak in publike to edification The Reformed Churches give this power only to Pastors and Doctors who are called by God and the Church to labour in the Word They do not deny to every Christian all true liberty in private as God gives them occasion in an orderly way to edifie one another nor do they deny to the sons of the Prophets who are fitting themselves for the pastorall charge to exercise their gifts in publike for their preparation and triall but publike preaching they do not permit to any who are not either actually in the Ministry or in the way unto it The Socinians and Arminians the better to advance their design of everting the publike Ministry do put it in the hand of any able man to preach the Word and celebrate the Sacraments The Brownists upon the mistake of some Scriptures give liberty to any of their members whom their Church thinks able to preach Mr Cotton and his Brethren in New-England did follow for a long time the Brownists in this practise yet of late feeling as it would seem the great inconveniency of this liberty of prophecying they are either gone or going from it for in their two last books The way of their Churches and the Keyes they not only passe this popular Prophesying in silence but also do evert the chiefe grounds whereupon before they did build it our Brethren here of Holland and London seem not yet to be accorded about it these of Arnhem did to the last day of their Churches standing maintaine it their gentlemen preaching ordinarily in the absence of their Ministers but at Roterdam Mr Bridge would never permit it yet Mr Simpson thought it so necessary an ordinance that the neglect of it was the cheife cause of his secession from Mr Bridge and erecting a new Church neither ever could these two Churches be united till after both Mr Bridges and Mr Simpsons removall their Successor did find a temper in this question permitting the exercise of prophesie not in the meeting place of the Congregation but in a private place on a week day our Brethren at London are for this exercise not only upon the former grounds but especially to hold a doore open for themselves to preach in the parish-Parish-Churches where they neither are nor ever intend to be Pastors only they preach as gifted men and Prophets for the conversion of these who are to be made members of their new Congregations The reasons we bring for our tenet are these First Who ever have power to preach the word ordinarily have also power to baptise But only Ministers have power to baptise Ergo only Ministers have power to preach the Word ordinarily The Minor how ever the Arminians and some few of the late Brownists deny yet all the Independents grant it but they deny the Major which we prove by two Scripturall reasons first Christ conjoyns the power of baptism with the power of preaching Ergo who have the power of preaching have also the power of baptising which Christ hath anexed to it Matth. 28.19 Go and teach all Nations baptising them Their Reply that Christ speaks
yeelded yet how will they prove that the Scribes and Pharisees were of any other Tribe then of Levi CHAP. IX Whether the power of Ecclesiastick Iurisdiction belongs to the People or to the Presbyterie THe next Question concernes the power of Ecclesiastick Jurisdiction to whom it may be due by Ecclesiastick Jurisdiction is understood the admission of Members into a Church their casting out againe by Excomunication their reconciliation after repentance the Ordination of Officers their deposition from their charge the Determining of Questions the deciding of Controversies and such other acts of Ecclesiastick authority Till of late the state of the Question here was very cleare and plaine the Reformed Churches doe put both the power and the exercise of Jurisdiction into the hand of the Presbytery that is the company of Elders and Colledge of Church Governours The Brownists and after them the Independents did ascribe all these acts to the Church as well without as with a Presbytery but of late Master Cotton in his Booke of the Keyes and his Brethren in their Synodick meetings of New-England have so subtilized and as to me it seemes involved the Question with a multitude of new distinctions that it is very hard to apprehend with any certaintie and clearenesse their meaning and more hard to reconcile any one with himselfe much lesse one with another They would seeme to differ much from the Brownists they stand not to put them in the Category of Morellius the first Patron of Democracie and popular government in the Church they professe a midway of government well ballanced with a prudent mixture of the Officers power with the peoples giving a part to both and all to neither They bring a multitude of distinctions rather to eschew the dint of our former arguments in the darkenesse of these Thickets then to give any light to this very great Question They insist most on two distinctions whereby they thinke to answer all we bring against them First they distinguish betwixt a Church Organized or Presbyterated as they speake and a Church inorganized and unpresbyterated the one is a body Heterogeneous a covenanted people with their Officers framed in a Presbitery the other a body Homogeneous a people in a Church Covenant without Officers at least without a Presbytery They would seeme to plead or else the distinction is for no purpose for the power onely of an Organized and a Presbyterated Church If they would stand to this in earnest and firmely we should be glad for so they should openly desert not onely the whole race of the Brownists but all their owne former Writings practises and enervate the best of these very arguments they still adhere unto for if ye will consider what is written by Mr. Cotton either in his Catechisme or way or answer to the thirty two Questions or the Arguments that still he insists upon in the Keyes or their generall practise in Holland and New-England to this day you will see that they maintaine the Jurisdiction of a Church as well unpresbyterated without a Presbytery without Officers as of a Church Presbiterated for the power of Ordination of Officers and of their deposition the power of admitting and casting out of Members which are the highest acts of Jurisdiction they ascribe expressely to every Church whether it have or want Officers as its proper and undeniable priviledge Their other new distinction wherein openly they applaud so much one another as it were contending who should have the glory of its invention is of a double power one of Authority and another of Liberty ascribing unto a Presbyterated Church the whole power of Jurisdiction and every part of it both to the Officers of their Presbytery and to the people in their fraternity or brotherhood but so that the interest of the Officers in every act is a power of authority which makes that their action only is valid and binding but the interest of the people is a power of liberty to concurre in these acts of Jurisdiction by an obedientiall yet a necessary and authoritative concurrence This new distinction will not serve their turne for first it s not applicable to the chiefe acts of Jurisdiction in question their Ordination of Officers their admission of Members are done ordinarily by their people alone without the concurrence of any Officers who then are not in being Secondly their arguments for the peoples interest in Excommunication Absolution and other acts of Jurisdiction inferre either nothing at all or much more then that which they call a power of Liberty or of an authoritative concurrence Thirdly this distinction involves the Authors in new unextricable difficulties it makes the Keyes Sword of Christ altogether inserviceable in common and ordinary cases wherein they have most neede and occasion to be set on worke Not onely according to their former principles they make every Congregation uncensurable for any possible crime But by this new Doctrine they confesse that every Presbytery in a Congregation becomes uncensurable and that every people of a Congregation becometh uncapable of any censure Yea farther if the most part of the Presbytery suppose two ruling Elders joyne together in the greatest heresies and crimes the whole people with the rest of the Presbitery suppose the Pastor cannot censure these two Elders also if the greatest part of the people should joyne in the greatest wickednesse yet the whole Presbytery with the rest of the people that remaine sincere and gracious cannot censure the wicked In all these and divers such ordinary cases they have no remedy but Separation and alwayes Separation upon Separation till their Church be dissolved into so small portions that it cannot by more Separations be farther divided But let us consider the Arguments upon both sides First we reason thus The people are not the Governors of the Church But the acts of Ecclesiastick Jurisdiction belong to the Governors of the Church Ergo The acts of Ecclesiastick Jurisdiction belong not to the people The Minor is cleare from the nature of the very termes for Jurisdiction is either all one with Government or a chiefe part of it now Government is essentially relative to Governors The Major is proved by many Scriptures which make the people so farre from being Governors that they are obliged to be subject and obedient to their Officers as to them by whom God will have them governed Heb. 13.17 Obey them that have the rule over you for they watch for your soules as they who must give an account 1 Tim. 5.17 Let the Elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honour 1 Thes 5.12 Know them which are over you in the Lord and esteeme them very highly in love for their workes sake God hath made them Pastors and the people their flocke them Builders the people the stones laid by them in the building them Fathers the people children begotten by their Ministry them Stewards the people domesticks under their conduct Secondly whosoever
hath the power of Ecclesiasticke Jurisdiction to them the Lord hath given the Keys of Heaven for the remitting and retaining of sinnes But to none of the people the Lord hath given these Keys Ergo. The Major is not controverted The Minor is thus proved To whom Christ hath given the Keys of the Kingdome of Heaven to retaine and remitt sinnes they are in some Ecclesiasticke Office They are sent out by Christ as Christ was by his Father they have some part of the Apostles ordinary charge but these things are not true of the people Ergo. The Major is proved John 20.21 As my Father hath sent me so send I you and when he had said this he breathed upon them and said receive yee the Holy Ghost whose sinnes yee remitte they are remitted and whose sinnes yee retaine they are retained What was promised to Peter Mat. 16.19 is here performed to him and the rest of the Apostles and to their Successours in their ordinary Office of Elders for this was a power necessary for the Church to the end of the world The Minor also is cleare for these things were not given to all the Disciples but to the twelve and to their Successours What was promised to Peter was not promised to every faithfull person and to every Orthodoxe Confessour for so all and every one should be bearers of the Keys and Ecclesiasticke Officers which is against the Scriptures of the first Argument Thirdly to whom these acts of Jurisdiction doe belong they are the eyes eares hands and principall Members of the Body of Christ for the eminent persons and Officers of a Church are compared to these Members because of these actions But the people are not the eyes eares hands are not the principall Members of the Body of Christ for if so there should be none left in the Church to be the feete or lesse principall Members all should become eyes and hands and the Church should be made a Body Homogeneous contrary to the doctrine of the Apostle 1. Cor. 12 19. If they were all one Member where were the Body but now are they many Members and the eye cannot say to the hand I have no neede of thee nor the head to the feete I have no neede of you Fourthly Who have a right from God to the acts of Jurisdiction they have a promise of gifts needfull for the performance of these acts For a divine right and calling to any worke is backed with a promise of Gods presence gifts and assistance in doing of that worke but the people have no promise of any such gifts For besides that daily experience declares numbers among the people to be altogether destitute of such knowledge wisedome and other gifts which are necessary for the performance of these acts of Jurisdiction The Apostle himselfe teaches that such gifts are not given to all but to some onely Fifthly That is not to be given to the people that brings confusion into the Church for the Lord is the God of Order But the putting of the power of Jurisdiction in the peoples hand brings confusion into the Church for it makes the feete above the head it puts the greatest power into the hand of the meanest it gives power to the Flocke to depose and excommunicate their Pastour Our Brethren were lately wont to digest with the Brownists these absurdities but now they begin to dislike them and rather then to stand to their Prior Tenets they will limit the Minor asserting that the power of Jurisdiction belongs to the people not severally but joyntly with their Officers so that neither they can excommunicate their Officers nor their Officers can excommunicate them But it seemes this new Subtilty will not long please the Inventors of it for as we have saide it makes the Keys of Heaven much more inserviceable for opening and closing then needs must when it hath taken the keys out of the hand of all others and put them in the little weake fist of a particular Congregation it will not permitt them to open or to close the doore neither to the people nor yet to the Eldershippe The Eldershippe cannot remitt nor retaine the sinnes of the Brotherhood nor the Brotherhood of the Eldershippe yea none of the Eldershippe can be censured by all the people without the consentient vote of the Presbytery nor any of the people can either be bound or loosed without the consentient vote of the people In these cases which may be very frequent The Keys of Christ must be layde aside and a new key of the Independents owne invention their sentence of Non-Communion or that much beloved and a little elder key of separation forged by the Brownists must come in the place thereof to be used against any or all other Churches against their owne Church or its Eldershippe or its Brotherhood or any Member of either Our sixth argument concernes Ordination a speciall act of Jurisdiction which all the Independents to this day put in the hands of the people alone when ever a new Congregation is to be erected which to them is no extraordinary nor rare case or when in a Congregation already erected there is no Presbytery which among them is frequent For a Presbytery must consist of more Governours then one and usually their Presbiteryes exceede not the number of three or foure At the death of their Minister suppose one of their two ruling Elders be sicke or absent or the two differ betweene themselves in this case they make no difficulty to cause some of the people out of all office to ordaine a new chosen Pastour Against this very ordinary practice we reason Vnto whom the power of Ordination doth belong they have a Commission from God authoritatively to send Pastours for preaching and celebration of the Sacraments also to lay hands upon them for that effect But people have no such Commission Ergo. The Major is the nature of Ordination for the essence and inward forme of it is the authoritative sending named the outward Forme and Signe used in Scripture is imposition of hands The Minor is proved from three grounds first that the people however they elect yet they doe not send for so they should send to themselves The Senders and they to whom the Preachers are sent should be one and the same Secondly an authoritative mission imports a Superiority in the Sender above the Sent But the Pastours are over the people not under them Thirdly the examples of the New Testament make it evident that the authoritative sending and imposition of hands the signe thereof were never used by any of the people but by the Elders onely 1 Tim. 4.14 With the laying on of the hands of the Presbytery 1 Tim. 5.22 Lay hands suddenly upon no man 2 Tim. 1.6 Stirre up the gift of God that is in thee by the putting on of my hands So it was not onely at the first sending of men to preach but in posterior missions to any
the Keys to every beleever for some beleevers are not Members of any Church and the Keys are onely for Domesticks Neither doe they put the Keys into the hands of beleevers alone for so Judas and many Pastours for want of true fayth could not validly either preach or baptize The Keys therefore are not promised to Peter under the notion of a beleever but in the quality of an Apostle and Elder of the Church as is cleared in the paralled places of Math John where the gift here promised is actually conferred upon all the Apostles who all were Elders and whose Office of opening and closing the doores of Heaven was to remaine in the Church to the worlds end not in the hand of every beleever but of the Governours of the Church joyned in that Presbytery which other Scriptures doe mention Secondly they reason from Ma● 18. who ever is the Church to whom scandalls must be told and which must be heard under the pain of Excommunication they have the power of Church Censures But the people are that Church Ergo. Ans we deny the Minor with the good leave of our Brethren for albeit they are wont to make the people alone without their Officers the Church in this place proving hence the peoples power of Jurisdiction before they have any Officers also their power to cast out all their Officers when they have gotten them yet now they have gone from the Separatists thus farre as to say that the people alone cannot be the Church here mentioned but the Church must be the people with their Officers whom now they will be loth as sometimes to make meere accidents and adjuncts of this Church for now they hold them for integrall Members so necessary that without them no censure at all can be performed upon any They goe here a little further telling us that the Church in this place cannot be the people though with their Officers but must be taken for the Officers with the people because both the Power and the Execution of censures belongs to the Officers alone though in the presence of the people and with their consent and concurrence They tell us that the Right and Authority of censures is given onely to the Presbytery of governours in such a manner that the Presbytery can be censured by no others neither can any other be censured not onely without their consent but not without their action We adde a third steppe whether our former arguments must draw them that the Church here meant must be the Governours alone without the peoples concurrence for if Excommunication the great act of government did belong to the people either by themselves alone or joyntly by way of concurrence with their Officers it would follow that the people were either sole governours above their Officers or joynt governours with their Officers which albeit our Brethren did hold lately with the Separatists yet now they will not assert so much the more as they declare it to be their judgement and practice that the Elders alone without the People doe meete apart in their Presbytery to heare all offences and to prepare them for publicke Judgement whence I thus argue They to whom offences are to be told immediatly after the two or three witnesses are not heard They are the Church to whom in this place the power of excommunication is given but the Elders alone without the People being set apart in their Presbytery are they to whom offences are to be told c. Ergo The Major is cleare from the Text for it speaks but of one Church which must be told and heard under the paine of censure The Minor is their own confession and practice and if that meeting of the Elders to whom they tell the offence for preparation of the processe to their peoples voice be not the Church here mentioned Then their ordinary practice of bringing scandalls first to the Presbytery before they be heard in the Congregation shall be found not onely groundlesse beside the Scripture but altogether contrary to the Scripture in hand for the method here prescribed is that the Church be told when the witnesses are not heard if therefore that company which is told after the witnesses are contemned be not the Church Christs order is not kept and the Church gets wrong Thirdly they reason from 1 Cor. chap. 5. ver 4.5.7.12.13 They who are gathered together with the Apostles Spirit and the Power of Christ to deliver the incestuous man to Sathan Who were to purge out the old Leaven and to judge them that are within and put away the wicked Person they have power to excommunicate but the People doe all these things Ergo. Answer the Minor is denyed First that gathering together might well be of the Presbytery alone which our Brethren grant most meete in divers preparatory acts to censure Secondly if it were of the whole people which can not be supposed in Corinth where the People and Officers were so many that the Congregations as in Jerusalem and else where were more then one yet suppose that all the people did meete to the excommunication of that wicked man this proves not that every one who did meete unto that censure had either the power or the execution of it more then of the Word and Sacraments to which they did more frequently meete Thirdly the purging out of the old Leaven and the putting away the man is commended indefinitely to these unto whom the Apostle wrote which our Brethren grant cannot be expounded without sundry exceptions First none doubt of women and children againe in the next chapter it is written indefinitely you are sanctifyed you are justifyed your Bodyes are the Temples of the Holy Ghost this must be restricted to the elect and regenerate except we will turne Arminians Everywhere in Scripture indefinite propositions must be expounded according as other Scriptures declare the nature of the matter in hand so here the act of purging and putting away ascribed indefinitely to the Church must be expounded not of all the Members but only of the Officers of the Church For the Brownists themselves make not every Member to be a ruler nor doe our Brethren give the formall authority and power of censures to any other but Officers ascribing to the rest of the Members onely a Liberty of concurrence so that the next word of Judging is expounded by them of a Judgement of discretion not of any judiciall and authoritative Judgement which alone is in question Fourthly from Coll. 4.17 they reason the people of Colosse had power to admonish their Minister Archippus to fullfill his Ministery Therefore the People of any Church have power if neede be to excommunicate their Minister Answer First That however our Brethren pretend to have come off from the extremity of the Brownists halfe way towards us yet their arguments drive at the utmost of their old extremities at no lesse then a power for the people to excommunicate their Ministers
Thus farre the most of their reasons doe carry if they have any force at all Secondly the Antecedent may well be denyed all that the Apostle speaks to the Collossians indefinitely must not be expounded of every one of the people This precept of speaking to Archippus could not be better performed then by the Presbytery whereof Archippus was a Member Thirdly the consequence is invalid They might admonish therefore excommunicate Every admonition is not in order to censure it is a morall duty incumbent to every one to admonish lovingly and zealously his Brother when there is cause it is a sinne and disobedience to God if we let sinne lye upon any whom we by our counsell and admonition can helpe but to conclude that we have power to Excommunicate every man whom in duty wee ought to admonish is an absurdity which none of the Separatists will well digest Fifthly From Revel 2.14.20 The whole Churches of Pergamus and T●yatira are rebuked for suffering wicked Hereticks to live among them uncensured Ergo it was the duty of all the Church to censure them Answer First the conclusion is for a power to the people to censure which our Brethren now deny Secondly The Antecedent may be denied for the fault of that impious Toleration is not laid upon the whole Church but expresly upon the Angell Thirdly the consequence is not good The whole Church might be reproved for a neglect of their duty in not inciting and incouraging their Officers to censure these Hereticks but a reproofe for this neglect inferreth not that it was the peoples duty to execute these censures Thus much our Brethren will not avow Sixthly They reason from Revel 4.4 The foure and twenty Elders sate on Thrones in white Robes with Crownes on their heads Ergo Every one of the Church hath a power of judging as Kings with Crownes sitting on their Thrones Answer First the conclusion ever inferres the full Tenet of the Separatists Secondly the consequence is very weake except many things be supposed which will not be granted without strong proofes first that this Type is argumentative for the matter in hand secondly that this place is relative to the Church on earth rather then to that in heaven thirdly that these Elders doe typifie the people rather then the Officers fourthly that the Thrones and Crownes import a Kingly Office in every Christian to be exercised in Church censures upon their brethren more then the white robes doe inferre the Priestly Office of every Christian to be exercised in Preaching the Word and celebrating the Sacraments Seventhly They reason from Galatian 5.1.13 the Galatians were called unto Liberty whereto they behoved to stand fast as to a priviledge purchased by Christ his blood Ergo Every one of them had a power to cut off their Officers Answer This is the Scripture whereupon our Brethren have lately fallen and make more of it then of any other I confesse their reasoning from it seemes to me the most unreasonable throwing of the holy Scripture that I have readily seene in any Disputant The whole scope of the place carrying evidentty a liberty from the burthen and servitude of the Law Their fathering upon it a new and unheard of sense to wit a priviledge of Church censures without any authority or proper power therein is very strange they cannot produce any Scripture where the word Liberty hath any such sense and though they could yet to give the word that sense in this place where so clearely it is referred to a quite diverse matter it seemeth extremely unreasonable Eightly Thus they reason The whole Congregation of Israel had power to punish Malefactors as in the case of Gibea in the message of Israel to the two Tribes halfe also the people had power to rescue from the hands of the Magistrates as in the case of Jonathan from Saul Answer The consequence is null for the practise of the Israelites in their civill state is no sufficient rule for the proceedings of the Church of the New Testament Our Brethren would beware of such Arguments least by them they entertaine the jealousie which some professe they have of their way fearing it be builded upon such principles as will set up the common people not onely above their Officers in the Church but also above their Magistrate in the State That it draw in a popular government and Ochlocracie both in Church and State alike Ninthly They thus reason Who ever doe elect the Officers they have power to ordaine them and upon just cause to depose and excommunicate them But the people do elect their Officers Ergo. Answer The major is denied for first election is no act of power suppose it to be a priviledge yet there is no Jurisdiction in it at all but Ordination is an act of Jurisdiction it is an authoritative mission and putting of a man into a spirituall Office The people though they have the right and possession by Scripturall practise of the one yet they never had either the right or the possession of the other Secondly suppose the Maxime were true whereof yet I much doubt unlesse it be well limited Ejus est destituere cuius instituere that they who give authority have power to take it backe againe yet we deny that the people who elect give any authority or office at all their election is at most but an Antecedent Sine quo non it is the Presbytery onely who by their Ordination doe conferre the Office upon the elect person Finally They argue No act of Jurisdiction is v●lid without the peoples consent Ergo to every act of Jurisdiction the peoples presence and concurrence is necessary Answer The antecedent in many cases is false a gracious Orthodoxe Minister may be ordained a Pastor to a Hereticall people against their consent an Hereticall Pastor who hath seduced all his flocke may be removed from them against their passionate desires to keepe him but the Consequent is more vitious where ever consent is requisite their presence much lesse authoritative concurrence is not necessary all the souldiers are not present at the Counsell of War and yet the decrees of that Counsell of War can not be executed without the consent and action of the Souldiers every member of the Church of Antioch was not present at the Synod of Jerusalem diverse members of the Independent Congregations are absent from many Church determinations to the which upon their first knowledge they doe agree CHAP. X. Independencie is contrary to the Word of God THe Divine Wisedome which found it expedient for man before the Fall not to live alone hath made it much more needfull for man to live in Society after his weakning by sinne Woe to him that is alone for if he fall who shall raise him up The best wits of themselves are prone to errors and miscarriages and left alone are inclined to run on in any evill way they have once begunne But engagement in
to separate from a Church wherein wee get no satisfaction of the true grace of every Member at their first admission For the Negative we reason first from the practice of Moses the Prophets who did never offer to separate for any such reason The causes of a just separation were smaller under the Law nor under the Gospel The weaknesse of their Reply Our second reason is from the example of Christ and his Apostles who did not separate for any such causes The third reason it is impossible to find true grace in every member of any visible Church that ever was or shall be in the world The fourth this satisfaction in the true grace of all to be admitted is builded on foure errours first that the power of Ecclesiastick Iurisdiction is in the hand of every one of the people Secondly that one man may attaine to the certain knowledge of the true grace in the heart of another Thirdly that it is a duty of every member of a Church to seek and finde satisfaction in the true grace of all his fellow-members Fourthly that all the Reformed Churches must once bee dissolved and unchurched that they may bee reformed according to the new mould of the Independents The fifth argument Their Tenet is followed with divers absurdities As first it is necessary to separate from all Churches that are this day in the world except it be from these of the Independents Secondly it was necessary to separate from all Churches that ever have been Thirdly there can be no rest for any till they turne seekers and leave all societies that are called Churches Cottons reasons to the contrary are answered His first reason put in form All the parts of it are vitious the conclusion proves not the question It stands upon a chief ground of Anabaptism and presupposes the nullity of all the Reformed Churches The major is many wayes vitious But the minor is the most faulty part of the Argument The proofes of the minor are answered The first The second The third and maine proof of the minor This driveth to universall grace and Apostacy of the Saints Yea to Socinianisme and further His second Argument The Conclusion is faulty The minor is false It s proofe is unsufficient His third Argument P●eters Confession much mis-applyed The guest without the wedding-garment more mis-appl●ed The parable of the Tares is thrown against its principall scope His fourth argument that all who cannot demonstrate the truth of their regeneration deny the power of godlinesse is not true His fifth that no hypocrite is to be admitted a member of a Church is a very rash argument His sixth from the roughnesse of the stones of Solomons Temple is a wanton reason His seventh from the porters exclusion of uncleane persons from the Temple has no strength His eight that Iohn the Bapt●st excluded the Pharisees and people from his Baptism is expresly against the Text. His ninth that Philip required the Eunuchs confession before baptisme infers not the conclusion All his nine or twelve reasons p●t in one will be too weak to beare up the weight of his most heavy conclusion The state of the question The first authors of this question The Independents difference among themselves here anent That none but Ministers may ordinarily prophecy wee prove it first by Christs joyning together the power of baptism and the power of preaching Secondly these that preach must be sent to that work Thirdly every ordinary preacher labo●rs in the Word and Doctrine Fourthly none out of office have the gift of preaching for all who have that gi●t are either Apostl●s Evangel●sts Prophets Pastors or Doctors and all these are officers Fifthly no man out of office might sacrifice Sixthly all who have from God the gift of preaching are obliged to lay aside all other occupations and attend that work alone Seventhly the Apostles appointed none to preach but Elders Eighthly the preaching of men out of office is a means of confusion and errour The contrary Arguments which Mr Cotton in his Catechism and Answer to the 32 Questions borrows from Robinson are First in the Church of Corinth men out of office did Prophecie Ans these men were officers or their preaching was extraordinary Secondly Iehoshaphat and his Princes did preach Answ The Kings exhorting of the Levites to doe their duty and the Princes c●untenancing of them therein was not properly preaching Thirdly w●e must not despise prophecy Ans The Apostle speaks of the preaching of men in office Fourthly the sons of the Prophets did preach Answ Their designation to be Prophets gave them right to initiall and preparatory exercises towards that office Fifthly Moses wished all the people to bee Prophets Ans But not without Gods calling to that offi●e Sixthly the Apostles before the Resurrection did preach Ans At that time they were true Apostles and did baptise Seventhly Paul and Barnabas were invited to exhort Ans they were men in office Eighthly the Scribes and Pharisees did preach Answ They were officers and sate in Moses chaire What is meant by Ecclesiastick Jurisdiction The state of the Question wont to be cleare the Reformed Churches putting the power and exercise of Jurisdiction in the hand of the Presbytery alone the Brownists Independents in the hand of the people onely but Mr. Cotton his followers the other yeare have perplexed the Question with their many Schole distinctions If they put the power of Jurisdiction onely in a Church organized and Presbyterated they fall from much of the Brownists and their own both doctrine and practise Their last and best beloved invention of the power of Authority and power of Liberty is for no purpose but to involve the Authors in new difficulties As they wont to make their smallest Congregations Independent uncensurable for any crime so now by this distinction they divide all their Congregations in two parts and make every one of these parts Independent also and uncensurable for any imaginable sinne For the negative that the people have no power of Jurisdiction we reason First the Officers alone are Governors and the people are to be governed 2. The people have not the Keys of Heaven to bind and loose 3. The people are not the eyes eares in in Christs Body for so all the body should be eyes and eares 4. The people have not any promise of gifts sufficient for government 5. The popular government bringeth in confusion making the feete above the head 6. The people have not the power of Ordination They have no Commission to send Pastours to themselves to impose hands to examine their Pastours to pray publickly and exhort 7. This power in the people would disable them in their callings 8. This power of the people would bring in Morellius democracy and anarchy in the Church 9. This power of the people will draw upon them the power of the word and Sacrament Mr Cottons contrary arguments answered First Christ gave to Peter the Keys of H●aven as
to a beleever Ans not so but as to an Apostle and Elder of the Church 2. Till the Church replies that the people have power of Excommunication Anser The Church here to be told is the Presbytery and not the people according to our Brethrens own grounds 3. The people of Corinth did Judge and Excommunicate the incestuous man Answer Tbe Text will prove no such matter 4. The people of Colosse might censure Archippus their Minister Answer there is no Word in this Text of the peoples censure 5. The whole Church of Pergamus is rebuked for not censuring the Hereticks Answer The power of Censure was in the Angells but the whole Church might be faulty in not incouraging the Angels to doe their duty 6. The twenty foure Elders sit on Thrones with Crownes on their heads Answer This will not prove a regall power of judging in every one of the people 7. The Galatians must stand fast to their Liberty Anser By Liberty hereinothing lesse is understood then a power of presence and concurrence in judgement without all power of Authority 8. The whole Congregation of Israel had power to punish malefactors Answer What the people under the Law did in the State is not a warrant for the people under the Gospell to doe the same in the Church 9. The people elects their Officers Ergo. they may depose and Excommunicate them Answer Election is no act of power or of Jurisdiction 10. The people must be present and consent to every act of Judgement Answer It is not so and if it were yet it inferres not their power of Jurisdiction God is the Author of the union and dependencie of particular Churches From them Morellius and Grotius learned the Tenet Laying aside all prejudice we will reason the matter The state of the Question cleared That single Congregations are not Independent is proved first from the 1 Tim 4.14 because they have not the right of Ordination Ordination belongs to the Presbytery No Congregation is a Presbytery No Congretion hath within it selfe necessarily a Presbytery No single Congregation ought to have within it selfe Pauls Presbytery Onely Pastors lay hands on Pastors The second Argument from the Apostolicke Churches which exercised full jurisdiction the chiefe whereof if not all were Presbyteriall and not Parochiall Such was the Church at Jerusalem How the Church commeth together The Church of Samaria also was Presbyteriall So that of Rome And of Corinth And of Ephesus Also of Antioch and the rest Our third argument from the subordination of the Church of Antioch to the Synod at Jerusalem Act. 15. Answer to the Replies The meeting of Jerusalem was a true Synod It doth not onely advise but command The Decrees of that Synod at their first making had onely Ecclesiastick authority Our fourth argument from the subordination of fewer to moe appointed by Christ Matth. 18. Christs subordination is to be extended to the utmost bounds of the Church universall Our fifth argument from the evill consequents which reason and experience demonstrate to follow Independency necessarily and naturally Neither the duties of charity nor the authority of the Magistrate can remedy these evills Our last Argument Independency is contrary to all the discipline that ever was knowne in Christendome before the Anabap●ists The first Objection or Argument for Independency from Matth. 18. The second Objection is taken from the practise of the Corinthians excommunicating the incestuous man The third Objection from the example of the seven Churches of Asia Their fourth Objection from the practise of the Church of Thessalonica and Colosse Their fifth objection from the Episcopall tyranny of the Presbyterie Their sixt Objection from the Congregations right to elect their Pastor Their seventh Objection from pluralitie of cures cast upon one Pastor Their eight Objection from Christs immediate government of his Church The Originall and progresse of Chiliasme The minde of the Independent Chiliasts Our first reason against the Chiliasts is that Christ from his ascention to the last judgement abides in the heaven Our second reason is builded on Christs sitting at the right hand of God till the day of judgement Our third reason is grounded on the resurrection of the dead the godly and ungodly doe all rise together at the last day Our fourth reason is builded on Christs Kingdome which is Spirituall and not earthly Our fift reason is taken from the nature of the Church Which ever on earth is mixt of good and evill And subject to crosses Having neede of Ordinances Because of her sinfull infirmities A Sixt reason from the secresie of the time of Christs comming A Seventh from the heavenly and eternall reward of the Martyrs An eight reason the restoration of an earthly Jerusalem brings backe the abolisht figures of the Lgw. A ninth Antichrist is not abolisht till the day of Judgement The Chiliasts first reason is from Re●●l 20.4 Answer Our new Chiliasts are inventors of a new heaven and of a new h●ll Their second reason from Daniel 12. We Answer Their third argument Answer Their fourth place Answer Their fifth place Answer Their sixth place Answer Their seventh place Answer Their eight place Answer The ninth place Answer Their tenth place Answer Their eleventh place Answer The twelfth place Answer Their last place Answer
if so it fall out that his insuperable obstinacy ●orce them to draw out the terrible Sword their proceeding here also is so exceeding leasurely and full of sensible grief and love to the party of fear and Religion towards God that it is a singular ra●●ty among them to see any heart so hard as not to be mollified and yeeld before that stroke be given Excommunications are so strange in all the Reformed Churches that in a whole Province a man in all his life will scarce●e witnesse to one and among them who are cut off by that dreadful Sword very few do fall in the States hand to be troubled with any civil inconvenience By this kinde of Government other Reformed Churches with ease have kept themselves pure and clean of all our Heresies and Schisms not onely Scotland Switzerland and divers parts of Germany but France it self which to this day was never blessed with any assistance from the secular Arm by this spiritual and divine adminicle alone have kept themselves safe from the irruption of all erroneous Spirits I confesse that Holland hath been a cage to these unclean birds but the reason is evident the civil State there walking in the corrupt principles of carnal Policy which cannot be blessed with final successe doth imped the exercise of Church-Discipline in its most principal parts these last fourty yeers that Land hath not been permitted to enjoy more General Assemblies then one and how great Service that one did towards the purging of the much corrupted Church and calming the greatly disturbed State all their Friends in Europe did see and congratulate while their foes did grieve and envy it It is not prophecy but a rational prediction bottomed upon reasons and multiplied experience Let England once be countenanced by her superior powers to enjoy the just and necessary Liberty of Consistories for Congregations of Presbyteries for Counties of Synods for larger Shires and National Assemblies for the whole Land as Scotland hath long possessed these by the unanimous consent of King and Parliament without the least prejudice to the civil State but to the evident and confessed benefit thereof or as the very Protestants in France by the concession of a Popish State and King have enjoyed all these four spiritual Courts the last fourscore yeers and above Put these holy and divine Instruments in the hand of the Church of England by the blessing of God thereupon the sore and great evil of so many Heresies and Schisms shall quicly be cured which now not onely troubles the Peace and welfare but hazards the very subsistance both of Church and Kingdom without this mean the State will toile it self in vain about the cure of such spiritual diseases CHAP. I. The Original and Progresse of the BROWNISTS THe greatest without comparison and most admirable work which the hand of God hath brought to passe upon earth in these later Ages is the Reformation of Religion from Antichristian pollution and tyranny No other could have been expected from the Prince of Darknesse but extreme opposition to this so high a prejudice to his Kingdom Incredible is the help which this unclean spirit hath made to Antichrist his chief servant for the upholding of his tottering Throne How many Princes and States hath he stirred up to persecute with Fire and Sword to the cruellest deaths the innocent Witnesses of the Truth How many learned Divines hath he bewitched with his Enchantments to spend their spirits and time in maintaining by Word and Writings the grossest abominations of that Romish Idol But the chief Artifice whereby this crafty Serpent hath most impeded the progresse of the Gospel and kept the Triple-Crown upon the Popes head is his powerful working in the midst of the Children of Light So cunningly hath he insinuated himself into the counsels and actions not onely of the Children of this World but of the Sons of Sion themselves that by their hands more then any other he hath laid in the way of Christs running Chariot scandals insuperable impediments irremovable by any humane might till the Lord from heaven put them out of the way The Light of the Gospel broke out so clear the heat of Zeal the truely heroick and more then humane wisdom and courage of the first Reformers were so irresistable that all the power of Papal Princes and all the learning of their Clergie were not sufficient obstacles unto the Torrent of their spirit all these humane Bulwarks were overflowed with the Flood of the Gifts of Gods Spirit in his Servants The whole Kingdoms of England and Scotland Denmark and Sweden Ireland and Navar were subdued to the Scepter of Christ much of France and Pole the most of Germany both above and below the most of Hungary and Switze were pulled out of the Popes mouth Italy and Spain were entred and fair beginnings of a gracious day did appear to both But behold in the midst of our Conquests and Triumphs while all our enemies without were upon the point of fainting and despair the Dragon and his angels got entresse in the heads of our friends and by their hands drew us back from the pursuing of our foes who were ready to have given over and submitted but remarking our unexpected halt and turning from them one upon another they got a time to breathe and to gather such strength that ever since they have been the pursuers and as long ago they have regained much of their losse so doubtlesse had it not been for the invincible strength of our Captain before this day they had totally ruined us To passe a number of stratagems whereby Satan hath diverted Protestants from carrying on their work against the Popish party I touch but upon two a double erroneous Principle whereby he hath infatuated many a thousand of men otherwise not irrational nor ungracious and brought divers whole Churches to such perplexities and confusions that they lie to this day entangled unable to disengage themselves of those snares and fetters that as all piety and reason do command they may joyn cordially their whole strength with their Brethren against the common enemy In our flight from Rome he got some perswaded to stand too soon before they had past the Territories of the Whore and the Line of her Communication Others he wrought to the contrary perswasion he made them run on too long not onely to the utmost Line of Errour but also far beyond all the bounds both of Charity and Truth Hence our greatest Woes all our Discords and mutual Wounds have sprung from these two Fountains This is the true original of our diversion from following the enemy to attend the worst of Wars our Civil and Domestike Combats By a very evil advice Luther and his followers stuck at the later parts of Reformation they could not down with the whole Body and in this their sensible infirmity they became utterly impatient of all contradiction That Calvin and his Brethren should
forgive and cohabit any longer with the party nocent albeit they professe their retractation hereof making it now fr●e for the innocent party either to depart or abide with the nocent as they finde it expedient and all this without any legal processe DDD The power which they grant to their smallest Congregations is very great but they adde one circumstance to it that makes it high above measure All the power of their smallest Congregations must be Independent and Soveraign that is absolutely Supreme upon Earth depending immediately upon Christ and none else for they deny all Ecclesiastick Authority above a particular Congregation which goes beyond a meer advice and councell EEE So that if the most part of a people in a Congregation should turn Heretical and extremely wicked excommunicating their Pastor their Doctor their Elders and whole Consistory onely for truth and righteousnesse For all this no persons on Earth not an Oecumenick Synod shall have any more power to controle them then the meanest of their own servants for to the meanest servant they give power to admonish reprove rebuke and to separate from the whole Church when it is obstinate in any evil and more power then this they will not give to the greatest and best Synods over a Congregation of a very few sometimes very ignorant and weak persons FFF They do not deny that Presbyteries and Synods are the Ordinances of God which have many profitable uses G G G but the Synods they allow of must have these conditions First They will have them onely occasional and elective not set or ordinary but as any Church shall have need to call together whom they think meet for their help and advice in what matters they think good to propound H H H Secondly The Members of their Synod must not be onely Ministers and Elders and men cloathed with Commissions but all who please to come without exclusion of any III Thirdly All who come as well People as Officers must have free liberty both of debate and voting decisively KKK Fourthly Nothing must go by number or pluralitie of voices LLL Fifthly In their Synods there must be no Moderator no Prolocutor for the ordering of the Action MMM Sixthly They will not be content that any Synod should have the least power of jurisdiction to censure the wickedest Heretike who is infecting all about him far and neer with the vilest Errors NNN In these their fancies they please themselves so well that they avow the very Crown Scepter and Throne of Christs Kingdom to consist in them OOO That the Churches so constituted and governed are nothing lesse then the new Jerusalem coming down from Heaven PPP That all the Reformed Churches for their aberration from this Constitution and Government are either no Churches at all or but Babylonish and Adulterous Churches or at best but corrupt Societies from which a Separation is necessary In things concerning the Worship they have crotchets not a few upon the Maxime that all Monuments of Idolatry must be abolished precisely according to the Laws of the old Testament they will have all Churches that were builded in the time of Popery made level with the ground QQQ their Bells to be broken yea all Bells to be unlawfull being Humane and Popish inventions RRR Not so much as a Church-yard must be kept up for Burial but all must bury in the fields SSS What ever of old was dedicated to the maintenance of the Worship of God they will have it all rejected as an Instrument of Idolatry But herein they seem to deal scarce fairly with the Law for howsoever they presse the casting down of the Churches the breaking of the Bells the abolishing of the Idols and all that belonged thereunto TTT yet they do leave to the Magistrate or to any who in this are serviceable to their humour the rich rewards of the Gold Silver Brasse Vestments Timber Stone Lands and Rents which belonged to these Churches to be possessed by them with a very good Conscience and without the least scruple of any Sacriledge VVV However they do maintain that all the Officers of their Church not onely Pastors and Doctors but every one of their other four sorts of Ministers Elders Deacons Helpers Widows XXX ought in Conscience and by Divine right to be by the Congregations which they serve YYY provided for yet they are so far from permitting any of them to enjoy the least portion of the old Rents of the Church that they avow Parsonages and Viccarages Glebes and Manses to be altogether unlawfull ZZZ That for a Minister to crave any Tithes or for any man for all that either Laws or Magistrates can command to pay any Tithes is a sin which abolishes from Christ AAAA They adde further That all set-maintenance to Church Officers is against the Gospel that it is the Will of Christ that Ministers now be provided for in that same way as himself and his Apostles were of old onely by the voluntary Contributions and meer alms of the people They d●ive on this point so far as to come up in termes to the Anabaptist● Tenent of making all goods common BBBB Their hatred of Idolatry is so great that they professe it unlawfull so much as to mention in any civil way the names of places or times that carry any footstep of any ancient Idoll Saint Andrew Saint John Peter or Pauls Church Munday Tuesday Wednesday Sunday January February March those and the like words to them are profane and unlawful CCCC The very yeer of God displeaseth them they will have it called The yeer of the Saints last patience DDDD They will have no Circumstance in the Worship determined not so much as by custom much lesse by Law there must be no limitation of Preaching either to time or place Pulpits they scorn they call them Priviledged Tubs EEEE They laugh at preaching to an Hour-glasse FFFF To preach in a Gown is to them little better then a Surplice or a Fryars Coul. That Penitents in their publike confession should stand in a peculiar place or in any habit diverse from ordinary is to them a matter of mockery GGGG As for the parts of the Worship in all of them they have some one singularity or other They make all set-prayer the very Lords Prayer it self used Prayer-wise not onely to be inconvenient and unlawful but to be Idolatry and the worship of the devil HHHH howbeit Master Robinson here corrects his companions and professeth that set-prayer in some cases is very lawful worship IIII. The singing of Psalms in meeter not being formal Scripture but a Paraphrase to them is unlawful KKKK much more the singing of any other songs in the Church which are not expresse Scripture They permit to sing Psalms in Prose not as an act of immediate praise LLLL for set-Praise would be as idolatrous as set-Prayer but as a matter of instruction and comfort whereby God is glorified as by all other actions
whether natural moral or spiritual which are done in faith But herein Master Smith is wiser then his fellows telling us That all Songs in the Church out of a Book whether in Verse or Prose are Idolatry MMMM yet he admits of singing such Psalms as the Spirit dictates to any person immediately without Book NNNN It seems the Brownists at Amsterdam have recanted their error in this point for all of them sing now in strange tunes the Psalms in meeter of Ainsworths exceeding harsh Paraphrase Preaching of the Word to them is no Pastoral act but is common not onely to all the Officers but to every gifted Brother of the Flock OOOO The word Sacrament to them is traditional corrupt and not to be used PPPP The Baptism of the English Church they make to be vain and nul the seal of no grace but onely of wrath and condemnation QQQQ yet they will not have it repeated They teach that the Lords Supper should be celebrated every Lords day RRRR So preparation-Sermons before and Sermons for Thanksgiving after the Lords Table to them are needlesse They will have all to sit at the Lords Table with their Hats on uncovering of the head in the act of receiving to them is Idolatry SSSS In this the present practice at Amsterdam contradicts their Doctrine for however they sit covered in time of all the reading and discourse yet when it comes to the participation of the elements every man during the time of his eating and drinking sits uncovered They count it lawful to joyn with the Lords Table Love-feasts TTTT They reject all Catechisms being set and so unlawful forms of instruction VVVV After a member is once received amongst them they enquire no more for his knowledge having once gotten satisfaction at his admission to Membership of his sufficient knowledge The Apostles Creed they detest as an old Patchery of evil stuff XXXX Christs descent into hell they count a blasphemous Article YYYY They reject all publike reading of the Word which is not backed with present Exposition ZZZZ They do not any way scruple the Office of Readers and Expounders for they give full liberty of publike and ordinary Preaching to any gifted man of the Flock though he have no Office When the exercise of Reading Expounding Singing of Psalms Praying and Preaching by the Pastor is ended they will have one two three or four to prophesie in order AAAAA and all to have a free liberty of continuing so long as they think meet After all this is done they have yet another exercise wherein by way of conference questioning and dispu●ation every one of the Congregation may propound publikely and presse their Scruples Doubts and Objections against any thing which that day they have heard BBBBB And as if all these Exercises were not enough to tire out a spirit of Iron the most of them being repeated again in the afternoon for a conclusion of all they bring in the laborious and long work of their Discipline for which the whole Flock must stay till they have heard debated and discerned every cause that concerns either the Officers or any of the people whether in Doctrine or Manners CCCCC Concerning the Magistrate Master Brown teacheth that he hath no right to meddle at all with any matter of Religion but to permit the liberty and free choice of Religion to the conscience of every one of his Subjects DDDDD The most of Browns followers do leave in this their Master making it a great part of the Christian Magistrates Office to suppresse within their own Bounds Idolatry and False doctrine EEEEE To compel all their Subjects if they will not be perswaded to hear the Word preached albeit no way to enter themselves members of any Church or to hinder any to enter in any Church they will or to erect new Churches of their own framing FFFFF Further if the Magistrate be a member of any Church they will have him were he the King himself to be so far subject to their Church-Censures that a little small Congregation shall have power upon his obstinacy in any sin or errour to excommunicate him and that without all delay without any respect to his Crown more then if he were the poorest servant of the whole Flock GGGGG and which is worst of all the Prince his Excommunication by the hands of so small weak a company must be without all possible relief for he hath no liberty of appeal to any upon earth HHHHH an oecumenike Councel may not assay to loose the knot of that Censure which the hand of the Congregation hath tied But their great Tenent about the Magistracie is this That no Prince nor State on the earth hath any Legislative power That neither King nor Parliament can make any Law in any thing that concerns either Church or State That God alone is the Law-giver That the greatest Magistrate hath no other power but to execute the Laws of God set down in Scripture IIIII That the Judicial Law of Moses bindes at this day all the Nations of the world as well as ever it did the Jews KKKKK They tell us that whatever God in Scripture hath left free it may not be bound by any humane Law whether Civil or Ecclesiastike and what God hath bound by any Law in Scripture they will not have it loosed by the hand of any man They lay it upon the Magistrate to punish by death without any dispensation every Adulterer every Blasphemer every Sabbath-breaker and above all every Idolater LLLLL. And here is the great danger that by Idolaters they will have understood not onely Pagans and Papists but the far greatest part of all Protestants all absolutely who are not of their way for the using of a set Prayer were it the Lords own Prayer to them is clear Idolatry MMMMM 1. For all this they will not permit any Magistrate to hang any th●ef at all MMMMM 2. Against the learning of the Times they make large Invectives the Universities and all the Colledges in them they will have razed to the ground they professe them to be worse then the Monasteries that justly were abolished NNNNN whatever Arts and Sciences are taught in the Christian Schools they count them idle and vain Grammar Rhetorick Logick Philosophy are all unlawful Arts OOOOO The Heathen Writers which are used in any Faculty such as Aristotle Plato Cicero and the like they would have them all burnt as the Authors of unlawful Arts. They reject all School-Degrees such as Batchelors Masters of Art Doctors of any faculty PPPPP They wil have no Students of Divinity QQQQQ They tell us that youths mis-spend their time and exceedingly abuse themselves by studying of those things which usually are recommended unto them as preparations for the Ministery whether Common places Commentaries upon Scripture or Protestant writers of Controversies all such Books they will have laid aside RRRRR yea it is their
God even as a dead dog Truely I am ashamed to write of so grosse and filthy abominations so generally received even of all States of these parts of the world who of a Popish Custom and Tradition have received it one of another without any warrant from the Word Ibid. p. 75. Other more smoothe hypocrites yet as grosse idolaters use the Lords Prayer as a close of their own M Canns Necessity of Separation p. 66. It is all one whether turning on the left hand we embrace the Idolatry of Bishops or turning on the other hand we follow the new devices of mens foolish brains for utter destruction certainly follows both N Robinsons Apologie p. 89. Quae nos ad Separationem solicitant ipsam Ecclesiae materialem formalem constitutionem ejusdemque politeiae administrationem essentialem spectant O Johns Enquiry p. 25. Seeing by the mercy of God we have seen and forsaken the corruptions which remain in the French and Dutch Churches we cannot partake with them in such case without apostacie from the Truth P Johns Plea p. 231. Every particular Church with their Pastors stand immediately under Christ the Arch-Pastor without any other strange Ecclesiastical power intervening whether it be of Prelates or other unlawful usurping Synods or of any such like invented by man and brought into the Church Barrows Dis p. 261. If we would but lightly examine these secret Classes these ordinary set Synods which the Reformists would openly set up they shall no doubt be found as new strange Antichristian and prejudicial to the Rights of the Church as contrary to the Gospel of Christ as the other what shew soever of former antiquity or present necessity they can pretend Idem Refut of Giff●rd p. 137. These are the antient Sects of the Pharisees and Sadduces the one in precisenesse outward shew of holinesse hypocrisie vain-glory and covetousnesse resembling or rather exceeding the Pharisees the other in their whole Religion and dissolute conversation like to the Sadduces looking for no Resurrection Judgement or life to come the one removing from place to place for their advantage and best entertainment in the errour of Ba'aam for wages seduce and distract the people of the Lord from their own Churches and Pastors Sions Royal Prerogative in the Preface Whereas the Papists place the power of Christ given to the Church in the Pope the Protestants in the Bishops the Reformed Churches as they are called in the Presbytery Neither of them hath right in this thing but contrarywise Christ hath given the said power of his to all his Saints and placed it in the Body of every particular Congregation Q 1. Robinsons Apol. p 83. Personas Episcoporum vel autoritatem qua potiuntur civilem in rebus vel civilibus vel etiam Ecclesiasticis non aversamur Q 2. Vide supra F. R 1. Bar. Dis p. 33. Such like detestable stuff hath Master Calvin in his ignorance brought to defend his own rash and disorderly proceedings at Geneva whiles he at the first dash made no scruple to receive the whole State into the bosome of the Church yea that which is worse and more to be lamented it became a miserable precedent and pernicious example to all Europe to fall in the like transgression as in the confused estate of all those Regions where the Gospel is thus orderly taught is more then plain R 2. Robins Apol. p. 7. Profitemur coram Deo hominibus adeo nobis convenire cum Ecclesus reformatis Belgicis in re Religionis ut omnibus singulis earundem Ecclesiarum fidei Articulis prout habentur in harmonia Confessionum fidei paratisimus subscribere Ibid. p. 11. Ecclesias reformatas pro veris genuinis habemus cum iisdem in sacris Dei Communionem profitemur quantum in nobis est colimus conciones publicas ab illarum pastoribus habitas ex nostris qui norunt Linguam Belgicam frequentant Sacram coenam earum membris si qua forte nostris coetibus intersint nobis cognita participamus Malis illarum serio ingemiscimus Apol. for the Brownists pag. 35. We are willing and ready to subscribe those Grounds of Religion published in the Confession of Faith made by the Church of Scotland hoping in the unity of the same Faith to be saved by Jesus Christ being also like minded in points of greatest moment with all other Reformed Churches and on the contrary for Anabaptists Familists and all other Heretikes new and old we utterly reject them and all their Errours and Heresies Johns plea. p. 245. I acknowledge the Reformed Churches to be the true Churches of Christ with whom I agree both in the Faith of Christ and in many things concerning the Order and Government of the Church R 3. Johns Inquiry p. 57. Having declined to divers Errors of the Dutch the Church did excommunicate him and so still he remains Ibid. p. 59. Yet it is false that we have excommunicate any for the hearing onely the Word preached among the Dutch or French for these that yet we have cast out here it hath been partly for revolting from the truth which they professed with us to the corruptions of those Churches and partly for other sins S The Confession p. 26. The state of the Dutch Church at Amsterdam is so confused that the whole Church can never come together in one they read out of a Book certain Prayers invented and imposed by man the command of Christ Matth. 18. they neither observe nor suffer to be observed rightly they worship God in the Idoll-Temples of Antichrist their Ministers have their set maintenance their Elders change yeerly they celebrate marriage in the Church they use a new censure of Suspension T Robins apol p. 81. Ecclesiae Anglicanae constitutio materialis est ex hominum flagitiosorum colluvie paucis si cum reliquis piis admistis conferantur V Canns necessity p. 167. He is to come himself into the publike Assembly all looking on him with love and joy as one that comes to be married and there he is to make publike Confession of his Faith to answer divers questions being found worthy by the consent of the whole he is to be taken into the Communion X Bar. dis p. 34. I have shewed that the known and suffered sin of any Member is contagious to all that communicate with them in that estate and maketh them which communicate in Prayers or Sacraments with such an obstinate offender as guilty in Gods sight as he himself is Y Bar. dis p. 34. I have shewed that the whole Church hath no power to dispence with the breach of the least Commandment and that such obstinate sin in the whole Church breaketh the Covenant with God and maketh it cease to be a Church or in Gods favour till it repent Z Vide supra X Y. AA Bar. dis p. 157. They make this part of Gods Word substantial that of Form this Fundamental that Accidental this necessary to Salvation that needlesse
Word of God to binde the Sin of the Pastor and upon his Repentance to pronounce comfort and peace to him as he hath to binde or loose the sins of the least SS Confess p. 23. As every Congregation hath power to elect and ordain their own Ministery so also have they power when any such default in Life Doctrine or Administration breaks out as by the rule of the Word deprives them of their Ministery by due order to depose them yea if the case so require if they remain obstinate orderly to cut them off by Excommunication Canns Necessity p. 155. If they shall sin scandalously the Congregation that chose them freely hath free power to depose them and put another in their room TT Johns Inquir p. 7. We have in our Church the use of the exercise of Prophecy spoken of 1 Cor. 14. In which some of the Brethren such as for Gifts are best able though not in Office of the Ministery deliver from some portion of Scripture Doctrine Exhortation Comfort sometimes two at a time sometimes more VV Bar. Disc p. 26. Their is no cause to doubt but any of Gods servants may censure judge and avoid that Congregation which rejecteth Gods Word breaketh Gods Law despiseth his Reproof and Mercy as a wicked Assembly and an Adulterous Church Ibid. p. 38. Who can deny but that every particular Member hath power yea and ought to examine the manner of administrating the Sacraments as also the Estate Disorder and Transgressions of the whole Church and to call them all to Repentance and if he finde them obstinate in their Sin rather to leave their Fellowship then to partake with them in wickednesse XX Vide supra MM. YY Vide supra ll ZZ Smiths Differences p. 56. It may be a question whether the Church may not administer the Sacraments before there be any Officers among them AAA Bar. Disc p. 121. I have alwayes found it the Parents office to provide marriage for their children and that the parties themselves should affiance and betroath one another in the fear of God and in the presence of such witnesses as are present and that in their Parents or other private houses without turning to the Church or to the Priest Confess pag. 45. The Dutch Church at Amsterdam celebrates marriage in the Church as if it were a part of the Ecclesiastick Administration while as it is in the nature of it meerly Civil BBB Vide supra AAA CCC Vide supra AAA DDD Johns Inqui. p. 33. These of our Members that you censure they avow that they accused themselves of adultery not for that end to be quit of their wives but being perswaded in their minde that they ought not to continue with their wives having by their adultery broken the bond of marriage Ibid. This indeed we held the most of us heretofore and some of us are so perswaded still and while we were generally so minded we thought it our duty to walk accordingly he means to excommunicate even the innocent party who was pleased to dwel with her Husband after he had sinned taking the innocent party that retained such offenders though upon repentance yet to be defiled and live in sin EEE Johns Plea p. 231. Every particular Church with the Pastor doth stand immediately under Jesus Christ the Arch-Pastor without any other strange Ecclesiastical power intervening c. Vide supra P. Also Robinsons Apol. p. 17. Non magis erat Petrus Paulus homo integer perfectus ex partibus suis essentialibus integralibus constans sine relatione ad alios homines quàm est ●oetus particularis recte institutus ordinatus tota integra perfecta ecclesia ex suis partibus constans immediate independenter quòad alias ecclesias sub solo Christo non itaque movendi sub humanae prudentiae antiquitatis unitatis aut alio ullo colore ecclesiae visibilis seu Ministerialis termini antiqui quos posuerunt Apostoli FFF Canns guide to Sion about the midst It is sure that Christ hath not subjected any Congregation of his to any superiour Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction then to that which is within it self So that if the whole Church shall erre in a matter of Faith or Religion no other Church or Church-Officer hath any warrant from the Word of God or power to censure punish or controle the same but are onely to advise them and so to leave their souls to the immediate judgement of Christ Robins Apol. p. 18. Licet imò incumbit Pastori unjus ecclesiae ut reliquis membris quod donum accepit sive spirituale sive temporale prout datur occasio id aliis ecclesiis earum membris impertiri ex charitatis vinculo quo illis adunatur non autem exequi in iis munus publicum ex authoritatis prerogativa quam in suos solos habet GGG Johns Plea pag. 251. To this end and in this manner may be had a profitable use of Synods Classes and Assemblies for mutual help and advice in cases of question controversie and difficulty about Religion so that they do not challenge or usurpe any unlawful jurisdiction or power over the particular Churches and their Governours HHH Bar. Disc p. 261. These secret Classes these ordinary set Synods which the Reformists would set up III Bar. Refut p. 81. In a Christian Synod no Christian ought to be shut out but all have equal power to speak assent or dissent without disturbing the Order of the Holy Church by presuming to speak before the Ancients or against any thing said by them without just cause who so doth is reproved of all judged of all as a disturber KKK Vide supra III. LLL Bar. Disc p. 261. In their Synods the matters being debated the greatest part prevaileth and carrieth the judgement Ibid. p. 78. This balloting by suffrage or pluralty of voices might well be a custom among the Heathen in their popular Government but it is unheard of and unsufferable in the Church of Christ MMM Ibid. p. 261. The order and manner of these Counsel● is first to chuse a Prolocutor Moderator or Judge to govern and order the action who and when they shall speak and when cease Ibid. p. 191. Not here to speak of their solemn Order observed in these Counsels and Synods as their choice by suffrages among themselves of their Archisynagogos or Rectorchori their President as they call him NNN Vide supra FFF OOO Bar. Disc p. 38. Every Member of his Church is to pronounce upon them the judgements that are written and to throw upon them the Stone of his judgement and consent Therefore hath the Lord raised up the Thrones of David in his Church and set his Saints in seats round about his Throne A Light for the Ignorant pag. 10. The true power which Christ our King hath received of the Father and communicated to his Saints and these onely is that dominion which the Ancient of days hath given to his Saints Dan. 7.19 PPP Johns
rhyming and paraphrasing the Psalms as in your Church and against Apocrypha and Erroneous Ballads in rythme sung commonly in your Church instead of the Psalms and other Songs of holy Scripture LLLL Rob. Apo● p. 20. Nego eandem esse rationem precationis cantionis ipsi Psalmi quorum materia precatione aut gratulatione constat in hunc finem proprie primo formantur a prophetis in cantiones Psalmos spirituales ut nos edoceant quae vota illi in angustiis constituti ad Deum fuderint quasque liberati eidem Deo gratias retulerint ut nos eosdem Psalmos sive psallentes sive legentes institueremus nos ipsos sive publice sive privatim sive docendo sive commone faciendo sive consolando ad Dei gloriam in cordibus nostris promovendam MMMM Smiths Diff. p. 4. That the reading out of a Book is no part of spiritual worship but the invention of the man of sin that Books and writings are in the nature of Pictures and Images that it is unlawful to have the Book before the eyes in singing of a Psalm NNNN Smiths differences Vide supra cap. 1. E. OOOO Confess p. 34. Such to whom God hath given gifts to interpret the Scriptures ought by the appointment of the Congregation to prophecy and so to teach publikely the Word of God until such time as God manifests men with able gifts to such Offices as Christ hath appointed to the publike Ministry PPPP Bar. Disc p. 116. Shall I speak according to the times and say Be no true Sacrament or rather leave that traditional word which ingendreth strife rather then godly edifying and say Be no true Seal of the Covenant QQQQ Vide supra F. RRRR Johns Plea p. 291. Whether it be not best to celebrate the Lords Supper where it can be every Lords day this the Apostles used to do by so doing we shall return to the intire practise of the Churches in former ages SSSS How corrupt is the signe of the Crosse kneeling and uncovering of the head at the Lords Supper and such things which Scripture prescribes not but men have taken upon themselves thus breaking the second command and joyning their Posts and Thresholds with the Lords Men are thus drawn away from the simplicity of the practise used by Christ and his Apostles who sat when they ate and drank and did no more discover then before TTTT Johns Plea p. 294. To have love feasts on the dayes of the Lords Supper it is a thing indifferent to keep or leave them as they shall be used or abused or as every Church shall finde them to be most expedient for their estate VVVV Bar. Refut p. 43. Not here to mention the binding of the Faith of the Church to an Apocrypha Catechism Idem Disc p. 142. They are not ashamed to Preach and publikely Expound in their Church their fond Apocrypha Catechisms XXXX Bar. Disc p. 76. Their forged patchery commonly called The Apostles Creed YYYY His Refut p. 48. What Scripture can you bring for the blasphemous Article of Christs descent into hell ZZZZ Cans Necessity p. 44. Bare reading of the Word and single Service-saying is an English Popery and far be it from the Lords people to hear it for if they would do so they would offer to the Lord a corrupt thing and so incur that curse of Malachi AAAAA Johns Enquiry p. 7. We have in our Church the use of the exercise of Prophecie spoken of 1 Cor. 14. in which some of the Brethren which are for gifts best able though not in Office of the Ministery deliver from some portion of Scripture Doctrine Exhortation Comfort sometimes Two at a time sometimes more BBBBB Johns Enquiry p. 7. Then if there be occasion upon the Scriptures treated or questions propounded and answers made Bar. Disc p. 139. In that his priviledged Tub he may speak of what be list none of his auditory have power to call in question correct or refuse the same presently or publikely CCCCC Rob. Apol. p. 38. Prorsus inauditum ante haec nostra saecula sive inter gentes sive inter Judaeos sive inter Christianos ut Judicia publica aliive actus naturae publicae privatim aut seclusa plebe exercerentur Ibid. p. 51. Per plebem cujus Libertatem Jus suffragandi in negotiis vere publicis asserimus non intelligimus pueros mulieres sed solos viros eosque adultos DDDDD Browns Life and manners of all true Christians in the Preface or Treatise of Reformation without tarrying for any and of the wickednesse of those Preachers which will not reform till the Magistrate command or compel them p. 8. Know ye not that they which have their full and sufficient authority and calling are not to care for a further authority And hath not every lawful Pastor his full authority Ibid. p. 8. The Lord did not onely shew them the Tabernacle but bade them make it But these men will not make it at all because they will tarry for the Magistrate Ibid. p. 10. They could not force Religion as you would have the Magistrate to do And it was forbidden to the Apostles to preach to the unworthy or to force a planting or government in the Church The Lords Kingdom is not by force neither durst Moses nor any of the Kings of Judah force the people by Law or by power to receive the Church-Government But after they received it if then they fell away and sought not the Lord they might put them to death They do cry Discipline Discipline that is for a civil forcing to imprison the people or otherwise by violence to handle and beat them if they would not obey them Ibid. p. 11. The Lords people is of the willing sort they shall come unto Sion and inquire the way unto Jerusalem not by force nor compulsion but with their faces thitherward And p. 12. Because the Church is in a Common-wealth it is of the Magistrates charge that is concerning the outward Provision and outward Justice they are to look but to compel Religion to plant Churches by power and to force a submission to Ecclesiastical Government by Laws and Penalties belongeth not to them neither yet to the Church EEEEE Confess p. 32. Leaving the suppression of this Antichristian estate to the Magistrate to whom it belongeth FFFFF Bar. Refut In the Preface We acknowledge the Prince ought to compel all his Subjects to the hearing of Gods Word in the publike exercises of the Church yet cannot the Prince command any to be a member of the Church or the Church to receive any without assurance by their publike Profession of their own Faith or to retain any longer then they continue to walk orderly in the Faith GGGGG Bar. Disc p. 245. When Princes depart from the Faith and will not be reduced by admonition or reproof they are no longer to be held in the Faith of the Church but are to receive the censure of Christ as
any other and to be cut off as withred branches The Church cannot neither hath in her power to defer the sentence of Excommunication any longer on hope of further tryal because they have had already that tryal which God alloweth it is a Leaden rule to proceed to the sentence of Excommunication with a Leaden-heel when the sin is ripe Ibid. p. 15. Which censures if the Prince contemn he contemneth them against his own soul and is thereupon by the power of the Church disfranchised out of the Church and to be delivered over to Satan as well as any other offender HHHHH Johns Inqui. p. 70. We hold it Antichristian to entertain or admit any appeal from one Church to another the highest ordained by the Lord for all sinners is that Church whereof the sinner is a member And therefore in urging our Church to submit to another Church they sought to draw it to Antichristian bondage IIIII Bar. Dis p. 84. I am perswaded that the Magistrate ought not to make permanent Laws of that the Lord hath left in our Liberty Ibid. p. 255. We approve all the Laws of God to be most holy and inviolable and all-sufficient both for Church and Common-wealth and the perfit instruction of every Member and Officer of the same in their several duties so that nothing is now left to any mortal man of what high dignitie and calling so ever but to execute the Will of God according to his Word KKKKK Bar. Disc p. 108. God will have his Laws and Statutes kept and not altered according to the State and Policy of times for these Laws were made not for the Jews estate as Master Calvin teaches but for all mankinde especially for all the Israel of God from which Laws it is not lawful in judgement to decline to the right hand or to the left By the neglect of these Laws the whole world overflows with sin Ibid. p. 212. In the Common-wealth they have abrogated all Gods Judicial Laws and cut them off at one blow as made for the Common-wealth of the Jews onely as if God had no regard of the conversation of other Christians or had left the Gentiles in greater liberty to make Laws and Customes to themselves LLLLL. Ibid. Hereby it cometh to passe that so many ungodly Laws are decreed and the whole course of Justice perverted that so many capital mischiefs as God punisheth by death such as blaspheme the Name of the Lord open Idolatry Disobedience to Parents are not by Law punished at all Incest and Adultery are either past over or punished by some light or triffling punishment Ibid. p. 155. The High-Commission punishes the most execrable Idolatries but with prisons or forfeitures making it a pecuniary matter contrary to Gods Word MMMMM 1. Vide HHHH MMMMM 2. Bar. Dis p. 211. Theft if above thirteen pence is punished by death NNNNN Bar. Dis p. 55. The Vniversity of Oxford and Cambridge have the same Popish and Idolatrous beginning with the Colledges of Monks Fryers and Nuns and these Vermin had and still do retain the same insufferable and incurable abuses therefore Queen Elizabeth ought by good right to abolish them as her Progenitors did the Abbeys OOOOO Ibid. p. 177. They repair to the Vniversities to be instructed in Heathen and vain Arts The Churches of Christ have not such Heathenish and Idolatrous customes they have no such prophane Arts vain Education and Literature Ibid. p. 56. We finde them all generally the Seed of Vnbeleevers nourished in all manner of Prophanenesse Heathenism vain and ungodly Sciences their Education from their cradle is ungodly in the common Schools where they must learn their Greek and Latin from lascivious Poets or Heathenish Philosophers With this Liquor are their Pitchers at first seasoned there are they trained up in Logick Rhetorick and Philosophy which Learning they draw from Aristotle Cicero and such like there they learn to speak by Art Syllogisms and Tropes Idem Refut p. 89. This I dare affirm that from the Book of God they never derived these their Colledges Schools Halls Orders and Degrees that I may not say Arts Authors Exercise use of Learning Disputations Commencements They fight with their School-Learning vain Arts Philosophy Rhetorick Logick against the Truth and Servants of God PPPPP Vide supra N O. QQQQQ Vide RRRRR 2. RRRRR 1. Bar. Dis p. 179. In the Church of Christ the name and offices of Chancelor Vice-Chancelor Dean of Faculty Masters of Colledges Fellows Beadels Bursours and all their several Statutes and Customes are strange as also their manner of Degrees Disputing for their Degrees and Order of Teaching Neither have any such Vniversities Colledges Society of Schollers any ground of the Word of God I see not why they should have any more toleration then their elder Brethren the Monks who every way had as great colour of Holinesse and shew of Vtility to the Church as they They have all one and the same Hellish Original they had and these still retain the same blasphemous incurable abuses which can no ways be reformed but by their utter dissolution RRRRR 2. Bar. Dis p. 177. The English of Christian Religion and Profession of the Gospel I can well away with but this English Romish abstract of Divinity I am assured came forth of this same Forge that the Title of the supreme Head of the Church and cannot by all the glosses they can devise be made other then most high blasphemy against the person of Christ who is the onely Vniversal Doctor of all his Disciples Ibid. p. 56. If they continue still and give their minde to the study of Divinity as they call it which is as much as to say The reading of mens writings with these Feathers they flee with these eyes they see which Books being taken from them they are as mute as fish as blinde as moles Ibid. Their Divinity is traditional wholly derived from other mens Books and Writings both for the understanding dividing and interpretation of all Scripture as also for all Questions Doctrines and Doubts that arise and not springing from the Fountain of Gods Spirit in themselves according to the measure of Knowledge Faith and Grace given unto them SSSSS Bar. Disc p. 146. It were much better for the whole Church that for Prophecy and Doctrine Preachers would lay aside all Authors and be take themselves wholly to the Book of God So should that Book be more soundly understood so should they see with their own eyes and not other mens TTTTT Bar. Disc p. 56. These Questions as also the whole Scripture must in these their Schools and Disputations be insufferably corrupted wrested blasphemed according to the lusts of these Philosophical and Heathen Disputers which here must handle divide discusse according to their vain affected Arts of Logick and Rhetorick All these prizes must be played in Latin that the Learning may the more and the Folly the lesse be perceived least even the common people should hisse them off the Stage if
not keep it off by all your friends c. B Antap. p. 255 When an Assembly was first agreed upon there were not many more Ministers and Scholars of your way in the Kingdom who were capable of such a Service then you got in to be Members of the Assembly so that you had as much advantage as your condition was capable of yea and favour too See the Orders of the Assembly which give no power at all of Jurisdiction to the few selected Divines but alone a power of advice C Antap. p. 269. I am confident had it not been for you five and a few more the Reformation intended had been in a far fairer way then now it is Brethren there are many complaints and that by your dear friends of the retarding the Work of Reformation by your means You are the Remora to the Ship under Sails you are the Spoaks in the Wheels of the Chariot of Reformation Parliament complains Assembly City Countrey all complain of the Work retarded and all is resolved into you five principally I could tell you many particular passages but you know what I mean In a word all the Prelates and the Papists cannot nor do not hinder so much the Work of Reformation as you five Members of the Assembly D 1. The Scribes Books carry already above 500. Sessions D 2. Prynnes fresh Discovery p. 17. They lately conspired together to exhibite a Petition to the Parliament for present dissolving the Assembly and sending them home to Countrey cures to prevent the setling of any Church Government to which end they met at the Winde-Mill Tavern where John Lillburn sat in the Chair and Master Hugh Peters suggested the advice which was accordingly inserted in the Petition E 1. Answer to 32. Quest p. 83. If that Discipline which we here practise be the same which Christ hath appointed and therefore unalterable We see not how another can be lawful So if a company of people shall come hither and set up another we cannot promise to approve of them in so doing E 2. Burtons Vindication p. 2. If the better heed be not taken there may be more haste to a Reformation then good speed A Reformation therefore will necessarily require longer time yet that we may not go blindfold about it See also Saltmarsh his Queres F Bastwicks second part of Independency Postscript p 37. Before the Independents Apparition in our Horison there were but three or four Sects known among us and they were few in number and well conditioned but out of the Independents Lungs are sprung above fourty several sorts of stra●lers which before their coming over were never heard of among us John Lillburn related it unto me and that in the presence of others that returning from the wars to London he met fourty new Sects and many of them dangerous ones and some so pernicious that howsoever as he said he was in his judgement for Toleration of all Religions yet he professed he could scarce keep his hands off them so blasphemous they were in their opinions So that he gathered that these were now the last days wherein so many Heresies abounded There are innumerable diabolical Sects and so prodigiously impious that it is not for a Christian to name their opinions and most of them if not all were first Independents and such as separated from our Congregations as unholy and were of their new gathered Churches and followers of their Ministery G A short Answer to Adam Stewarts second part supposed to be written by John Goodwin p. 32. and 36. Is it not an ungodly thing to suffer men to be of any Religion Answer No For both our Saviour and the Apostles and the primitive Christians did the same Ought we not at least to keep our different Opinions and Religion unto our selves in obedience to the Civil Magistrate that commands it Answer No Because its better to obey God then man but if Jesuited Papists and other subtill Hereticks be suffered will they not seduce many unto their erroneous By-paths Answer Though a Toleration of erroneous Opinions may gain some to Satan yet Truth being therewith to be published and approved will in all probability not onely gain so many more to God but any one thus wonn to the Truth is worth thousands of these that fall from it H Cottons Model of Church and Civil power related in the Bloody Tenent p. 120. The falls of Common-wealths are known to arise from their diminishing the power of the Church and the flourishing of Common-wealths is observed to arise from the vigilant administration of the holy Discipline of the Church I Master Prynnes fresh discovery in the Epistle Their Libels actions speeches proclaim a plotted avowed confederacy among some furious Ringleaders of these Independent Sectaries against the Parliament Assembly and all their resolves in matters of Religion That which confirms me in this opinion is first the new seditious Covenants which the Members of some Independent Congregations enter into to adhere defend maintain to the uttermost of their power and contend for even to blood the establishment of that Independent Form of Church Government which themselves have set up and to oppose the Presbyterian Bastwicks second part p. 28. This that I now say I speak upon very good ground among these they think they may confide in they affirm they will not be beholding to the Parliament nor any body else for their liberty for they will have it and ask them no leave They have the Sword now in their hand and they think their party strong enough to encounter any adverse party And they professe they care not how soon they come to cutting of throats and speak of nothing but the slaughtering and butchering of the Presbyterians And therefore there is just cause given us to think we may expect better quarters from the very enemies then from the Independents who call us in their Pulpits Brethren but in their hearts hate us Ibid. Postscript p 6. The Presbyterian Government not suiting with their humour they abhor it and all such as endeavour to establish it and wish rather that all the old Trumpery were brought in again and professe they had rather have the Government of the Prelates Yea some of them have not been ashamed to protest unto Prelatical Priests That before the Presbyters shall rule over them they will cut all their throats and joyn with them for the reestablishing of the Hierarchy Ibid. p. 30. Professing that all such Preachers who Preach and write the least thing in opposition to their Opinions ought to be hanged And had they the power in their hands they would trusse them up as many can testifie Ibid. p. 45. They boast of such a party in the Kingdom if their own words may be credited as they now think by the Sword to be able to make their own Laws and have been frequently heard say That they had many Abbettours in the Assembly and both Houses of Parliament and in many parts through the
places upon the peoples sense of the Presbyteries encroaching and feare of their farther usurpation they have thought it expedient to have no Eldership at all as in Amsterdam the Brownists so in Rotterdam the Independents for these many yeares have had no ruling Elders and so no Presbytery xx but have governed all their affaires by the voices of the people and why might they not as well live without ruling Elders as their Brethren at Arnem for divers yeares did live without a Pastor yy the more necessary Officer Mr Cotton and some others feeling to their small contentment the great and intolerable power of the people over the Eldership have begun to fall from Ainsworth to Iohnson and to plead the Authority of the Eldership above the Brotherhood and the necessity of their subjection by divine right to the Elders as to their Superiours zz yet to salve all and to please both parties he maketh the concurrence of the Eldership and Brotherhood to be both necessary to be both sine quo non aaa whatever Authority he gives to the Eldership he maketh it all vaine and frustaneous without the consent of the people bbb and notwithstanding all the obedience and subjection he putteth upon the people yet he giveth to them such a power of Liberty that their concurrence with the Eldership in every act of power is not only necessary but authoritative ccc He goeth yet one step further in case of the obstinate and incorrigible aberration of the Presbytery he gives power to the people albeit not to execute any act of power yet to separate from the obstinate Eldership ddd and out of their own number to make new Elders who will be willing to administer cen●ures and do all else that they conceive to be right For all this so farre as we can learne there is yet no full agreement among them either in New or Old England in setting the merch-stones of power betwixt the Eldership and Brotherhood many Schoole distinctions they use yet by them all they cannot come to concord The Independents here confesse their agreement with Mr Cotton in the chiefe things wherein he differs from his Brethren in New England and from his owne selfe in his late Book of the way of the Churches they applaud much his new invented distinction of the power of Authority and the power of Liberty eee Yet in other things they avow their dissent from him fff what these other things may be they yet have not had leisure to informe us I hope it be not the extent of Church power unto women and the giving of a power to celebrate Sacraments unto private men which yet are said to be the Tenets of some of their friends It is true the Synod of New England maketh not only the fraternity but as they speak the sorority also to be the subject of the private power of the Keyes of the Kingdom of heaven ggg also we have shewen how they have permitted women to be Leaders to their whole Churches and chiefe Pastors in Church actions of the highest nature we have good witnesses that a woman was the founder of Mr Simpsons Church at Rotterdam hhh that a woman and that none of the best led away Mr Cotton and with him great numbers of the best note in New England towards the vilest errours and to the brink of a new separation from all the Churches there iii Notwithstanding all this none of the Independents either in New England or Holland neither the Brownists of Amsterdam did ever give unto any women any publike Ecclesiastick power In this our London Independents exceed all their Brethren who of late begin to give unto women power of debating in the face of the Congregation and of determining Ecclesiastick causes by their suffrages if Doctor Bastwick be rightly informed kkk Concerning the power of the Sacraments Mistris Chidley is permitted to print in defence of the Independent cause without the reproofe of any of that party so farre as I have heard that not only Pastors but private men out of all office may lawfully celebrate both the Sacraments lll However in these and other things there may be great difference among them in the point of Church power yet that which is the principall point in this head of power the matter of Independency in it there is a full and perfect agreement among them all Whatever power whether of Liberty or Authority be in the Congregation organicall or homogeneous radically or habitually in the Brothehood or Eldership conjunctly or severally whatever power it be or wheresover it be all of them place it in the Congregation without any subjection to any other Superiour mmm The word of Independency some of them do much abominate and yet but some for there are of their chiefe Leaders this day who do not mislike it nnn but what ever wee speak of the word the matter which every man did understand by it is stifly maintayned by them all In nothing there is greater concord among them then that in the smallest Congregations even of seven persons the whole Ecclesiastick power doth reside absolutely without any dependence upon or subjection to any or all the creatures on earth ooo Whatever may be sayd of a charitable advice or friendly counsell or brotherly rebuke yet if you speak of any authoritative power to censure all of them avow that the offer of this from all assemblies of a nation or of the world is Antichristian Tyranny ppp and for any person in the smallest Congregation to receive or submit themselves to any such censure were to betray and cast away the liberty wherewith Christ hath made them free qqq So that it is utterly unlawfull for all the Churches of the World to inflict the least censure or to give the smallest admonition in order to any censure not only to any Congregation but to any one man therein suppose he were never so erroneous never so scandalous although he did infect and destroy not only all the soules of that Congregation but as a common pest did corrupt the Churches of a whole Nation or if it were possible of the whole World rrr This strange Tenet seemeth to be either the root or the fruit either the mother or the daughter of all the rest of their errors the mother and root because a few persons having locked themselves up within the narrow walls of one Congregation with an Independent power having made themselves uncontroulable by any or all upon earth they open a wide doore to any erroneous spirit to mislead them towards what ever fancy can enter into any cracked braine without all possibility of any effectuall remedy the daughter and fruit because men who are conscious to themselves of singularities which they feare will not be liked nor tolerated by others upon their fond love towards these errours doe affect such a liberty which may exempt them from all danger to bee ordained by any censure to
relinquish these darlings which they have resolved to keep still in their bosome The fatuity of this Tenet they use to season with the graines of three more sapid positions First they grant the being of Classicall Psesbyteries and Synods sss Secondly they ascribe to them the censure of Non-Communion ttt Thirdly they allow the Magistrate to correct Hereticall and Shismaticall persons www But if they will consider they shall finde that in none of those positions they goe beyond the Brownists and by them all they doe not any whit cure the disease of Independency For the first they admit not of any Classicall Presbytery differing from a Synod for what ever they speak of their granting gladly unto us all the degrees and Subordinations of Assemblies which we could wish yet betwixt a Congregationall Eldership and a Synod they grant not any interposition of a Classis or compounded Presbytery over more Congregations then one xxx which kinde of Presbytery the Reformed Churches make the first and ordinary subject of Ordination and of sundry acts of Jurisdiction esteeming it a Iudicatory specifically different both from the inferiour Eldership of a single Congregation and the Superiour Synod whither of a Shire or a Province or a Nation or of more or of all Nations Besides that Synod whereof they approve is only a Brownisticall one such as needeth not to be moderated by any Preacher yyy at the which any man who pleaseth may be present to debate and vote decisively zzz Yea they goe here much beyond the Brownists and their Brethren of New-England also for they deny that the 15 of the Acts is either a pattern or ground for any Synod aaaa expresly contrary to Mr Cottons latest Doctrine neither will they have any ordinary or set Synods but only occasionall and when the occasion of a Synod commeth they will have it to be meerely elective bbbb 1. consisting of such persons alone as themselves please to chuse not only of the Churches of their own Independent way alone but also of such only among these as themselves think meet to pitch upon bbbb 2 if a Classis or Synod bee of any other temper they count it so corrupt and so tyrannicall a Court that they could not countenance it with their presence yea not so much as they would doe an Episcopall Sea cccc the one being much worse then the other that the Brownists Independency went ever thus farre I doe not know As for their sentence of Non-Communion it is one of Mr Cottons new additions to old Brownisme dddd which it seemes rather to embitter then sweeten for it is a meer humane invention to supply the ordinances of God which men injuriously have cast away when they have denied to Synods the power of these censures which God hath appointed and finde themselves straightned by the absolute necessity of the matter to take up againe either them or their equivalent they will not be so changeable as to resume the censures whereof God is the Author having once cast them away but in their place they are forced to finde out some of their own these their new declarations and abstentions from fellowship and such like new censures of their owne But which is worst of all these their new censures if there be any force in them advance their Independency to the highest degree of power or rather lift it up highly in the aire and by a repugnancy and contradiction make it evaporate to nothing for this Non-Communion giveth power to every one even the smallest Congregation over all the Churches in the World it pleaseth to deale with so farre as to admonish rebuke declare against them all and cast them all out of her Communion eeee The Reformed Churches contend only for a power to a great Assembly for censuring a faulty member of a small Congregation but this Non-Communion gives to the smallest Congregation of any seven persons the power of sentencing the whole Churches and all the Assemblies in the World Howbeit this Non-Communion seemes to be contradictory and destructive of that Independency which it was invented to salve For if every Congregation bee Independent how shall all Congregations be so dependent upon every one that any the least may inflict this high censure upon the greatest yea upon all Beside this Non-Communion is nothing but the highest straine of separation that ever any Brownist aimed at it giveth a power for any Church to deny Communion to all Churches and to live separate without all Communion with any Church for ever This produceth an other power of a farther separation to wit a power to every member of that separate Church upon any grievance not satisfied to separate himselfe and either live there alone as many do or to gather a new Church of any whom they finde willing to associate with them these things are brought not so much for reasons to evert the positions in hand as to shew how unfit limitations they are of the extravagancy which appeareth in Independency and how much they runne out beyond the bounds which they pretend to hem in As for their third Tenet of the Magistrates concurrence to second their sentence of Non-Cummunion besides that the Brownists goe as farre as ever any of them did in this ffff we see now that the chiefe of them have recalled the Tenet though all the Protestant Churches and none more then they of New-England doe maintaine the Mag●strates power to suppresse errours yet this unhappy love towards liberty whereinto the Independent party here among us have lately fallen makes them to entreat the Magistrate to let alone the affaires of Religion though they runne into all the confusion whither Satan and his Instruments are able to carry them gggg If the Magistrates feare of God doth stop his eare to such impious petitions then they flee up very high even to the deniall and decrying of all the Magistrates power in matters of Religion hhhh which yet the Papists in England and the Arminians in Holland who have been the greatest pleaders hitherto for liberty were never bold to impugne but of this more hereafter I hope I have demonstrated that in the point of Separation and of the constitution and government of the Church the great and only intended Articles of the Brownists our brethren the Independents come nothing behind them Sure in these their conceits they applaud themselves no lesse then the former they put in these things the very Kingdome of Christ all their opposites in these fancies they make them enemies to Christs Kingdome iiii they avow Independency to be a beginning and a part of that glorious Kingdome which Christ for a thousand yeares is to enjoy upon earth kkkk Concerning the worship of God and other heads of Divinity whatever crotchets the Brownists have fallen into the Independents punctually doe follow the most and worst of them and if in any they come short they are sure to exceed in other
eeeeee Secondly doe not their principles hold out of the Church and deprive of all Christian consolation which flowes from any Church priviledge the farre greater part if not absolutely all Kings and Princes that are this day in the Christian world and have been since the dayes of the Gospel or ever are likely to be upon earth to the worlds end how exceeding few of all that are or have been Members of Parliament of either House of all that have been or are Magistrates in England if their principles might be put in practice would be admitted to the Lords Table or yet their children be baptised or themselves be reputed Christians and Members of any lawfull Church Thirdly of these exceeding few Kings Princes Peeres Commoners and Magistrates of the Land which they could take into their Congregations how many could have assurance to live any long time in a Christian condition as Members of a Church according to their principles Since they tell us that they are to Excommunicate without any delay the greatest Kings for any fault either in beliefe or life which doth subject the poorest servants to censure how many and frequent these faults may be it is hard to judge but the worst is when the greatest Kings and the chiefe Members of Parliament without any respect to their dignity are cast out of the Church for themselves and their children by the peevishnesse or errour or malice of a few in a small Congregation they have no meanes under heaven to redresse themselves of their injury they and theirs must live as Pagans out of the Church till they who did cast them out be perswaded and become willing to take them in should all the Divines all the Assemblies all the Churches of their Dominions see cleerly as the light their notorious wrong yet there were no possibility to helpe it by any mortall hand till the injurious Congregation it selfe of its own accord should be pleased to repaire it Fourthly they permit none to be Magistrates where they have power not so much as to be a member of their smallest civill Courts except they be fully for their way and be admitted members of their Church as it hath ever been their practice in New-England to this day but the Magistrates they admit of who are of their minde they debase their power so low as to suspend it all on the will and pleasure of the promiscuous multitude not only to limit the Soveraignty of Princes within the bounds of their just Lawes and to confine them unto the Counsell of their Parliaments but to bring both them and Parliaments and all Magistrates to their first originall and Makers to the free will of these whom they use to stile the prophane multitude ffffff Fifthly have any of the Reformed Churches now for an h●ndred yeares and above given to Magistrates such occasion to feare an unjust insurrection as they in the few yeares of their being have already furnished To passe by all their threatnings in this time of confusion gggggg while their strength is yet inconsiderable and their mighty endeavours to get Armes into their hand to enable themselves with the evident hazard of the whole Isle to doe what they please by force hhhhhh Let men only look over to the fruits of their principles in New-England not many yeares agoe there upon a very small and so farre as I know very groundlesse suspition to have somewhat of their Government altered by the King contrary to their Patent they did quickly purchase and distribute Armes among all their people and exact of every one an Oath for the defence of their Patent against all impugners whosoever Mr Williams opposition to this Oath as he alledgeth was the cheife cause of his banishment iiiiii What principles could these be that moved the same people a little after to doe and say such things for which their Magistrates did disarme so many of their Church members not only elsewhere but even at Boston upon fear of an apparent insurrection for the killing of the principall Magistrates and overturning the whole state of that Countrey kkkkkk 1. Few Magistrates will hereafter confide in these principles which saved not the Governour and generall Court of New-England from extreme danger by the members of Mr Cottons Congregation at New Boston Sixthly doe the Independents principles give to the Magistrate any Ecclesiastick power at all will they submit to his civill power in any Ecclesiastick affaires will they be hindered by the Magistrates sentence unlesse it be executed with violence to erect Congregations within his Dominions at their own pleasure will their principles permit them upon the command of King and Parliament to refuse to take into their Congregations the members of other Parish Churches without a dismision or take and admit upon the Magistrates command within their number any whom they account unfit for membership or to recall for the Magistrates pleasure any of their Church censures have they not very lately declared to the Parliament that they esteem all matters of Religion free and exempt from their sword and power That all matters both of worship and doctrine that all things of the mind as they speak or matters of opinion and all matters of outward forme wherein uniformity is required according to our Covenant are so farre to be ruled by every mans own conscience his own light and reason that the Parliament is not in any such matters to interpo●e their power whither this bee the true sence of their openly avowed and repeated letters to the Parliament it selfe let every intelligent man consider who reads the words kkkkkk 2 Seventhly are any of the Reformed Churches or any Churches or persons of the whole world so injurious to Magistrates as their principles force them to be who ●poyl Christian Kings and Parliaments of their whole Legislative power they will have us to beleeve as good Divinity that it is not only unlawfull for Church-assemblies to make Ecclesiastick Canons but that it is alike unlawfull for any Prince or State to make a Civill Law llllll That the placing of a Legislative power in Kings or Parliaments is to usurp the property and prerogative of God mmmmmm 1 These Principles cannot be very favourable to the State which at one stroke annihilate all the Acts of Parliament that now are in force either in this or any other Kingdom and make it impossible if they were beleeved to have any more in any place of the earth to the worlds end Look back upon what I have cited from the chiefe of the Brownists writings I grant the New English polishers of Brownism doe not expresse their Tenets in tearms so hugely grosse yet see how neare they come to them in substance when they tell us that no Magistrate may make any Lawes about the Bodies Lands Goods Liberties of the Subject which are not according to the Lawes and Rules of Scripture Scripture being given to men for a perfect rule as well
time to Mr Calamy and pretends some reasons to borrow it for awhile but after he had it he carries it away into Yorkshire that so upon occasion of complaints of the breach of the agreement when we would have consulted with that paper it was gone and Mr Nye keeps it to this day and having been moved to restore it His answer is it is at Hull amongst other papers b Apollonius Letter to the 5 Apologists the 3 of May 1644. Hasce quaestiones ad vos reverendi viri transmitto de iisdem sententias vestras quaerens ob mutuam nostram fidem charitatem serio vos oro ut non detrectetis sincere dilucide accurate absque Rhetorici apparatus diverticulis declarare quid vos fratres illi quibuscum societatem vestram Ecclesiasticam colitis de hisce sentiant quoniam meae fidei ab Ecclesiis Christi id commissum est Spero vos ex timore dei charitate erga nos fratres vestros absque ullo pretextu sententias vestras hac de re declaraturos idque quam cito fieri potest urgent enim Ecclesiae nostrae ut opus hoc maturem This zealous adjuration hath not to this day drawn from any of them any declaration c Apol. Nar. p 30. A relation of our judgments in the points of difference about Church-Government we reserve unto the more proper season d Keyes Preface p. 6. Only we crave leave of the reverend Author to declare that we assent not to all expressions scattered up and down or to all and every assertion interwoven in it yea nor to all the grounds or allegations of Scriptures nor should we in all things perhaps have used the same termes to expresse the same materialls by e Apol. Nar. p. 10. A second principle we carried along with us in all our resolution was not to make our present judgement and practice a binding law unto our selves for the future and therefore in a jealousie of our selves wee kept this rese●ve to al●er and retract though not lightly what ever should be discovered to be taken up out of a misunderstanding of the rule which principle we wish were next to that most supreame enacted as the most sacred Law of all others f Cottons Keyes published by Goodwin and Nye p. 49. In what sence the Church of a particular Congregation is the first subject of the power of the Keyes in the same sence it is Independent and none other we taking the first subject and the Independent subject to be all one Answer to the 32 questions p. 46. For the matter of Independency we confesse the Church is not so Independent but it ought to depend upon ●hrist But for Dependency upon men or other Churches or other Subordination unto them in regard of Church-Government and power we know not of any such appointed by Christ and his Word The Churches were not Dependent and Subordinate to others but all of them absolutely free and Independent Burtons Vindication p. 42. We are not so ashamed of the Title of Independency as utterly to disclame it and that for two reasons first for distinction sake between us and that which you call Presbyteriall Government The second is because this word Independent is to signifie that wee hold all particular Churches of Christ to be of equall authority and none to have Iurisdiction over another but each Church is under Christs Goverments as the sole head King Lord Law-Giver thereof g Apol. Nar. p. 22. We doe professedly judge the Calvinian Reformed Churches of the first Reformation from out of Popery to stand in need of a further Reformation themselves h Ibid. p. 19. Wee think we give more to the Magistrate then the principles of the Presbyteriall Government will suffer them to yeeld i Ibid. p. 24. Wee doe here publikely professe we believe the truth to lie and consist in a middle way betwixt that which is falsely charged on us Brownisme and that which is the contention of these times the Authoritative Presbyteriall Government Preface to the Keyes p. 5. We are yet neither afraid nor ashamed to make profession that the substance of this briefe extract is that very middle way betwixt that which is called Brownisme and the Presbyteriall Government k Vide supra Chap. 2. B and R 2. l Prynnes Discovery p. 29. Iohn Lilbourn in his Answer to 9 Arguments p. 4. writes the Church of England is a true whoorish mother and you are one of her base begotten and bastardly children I say the Church of England neither is nor never was truly married to Christ in that espousall band which his true Churches are and ought to be but is one of Anti-christs Nationall wh●orish Churches your Church is false and Anti-christian the Ministers of the Church of England are not true Ministers of Christ but false Ministers of Anti-christ ibid. p. 31. This language and opinion of his concerning our English Church and Ministry is seconded by most Independents in their late Pamphl●ts m Mr Robinson hath written a whole Treatise upon this subject n Answer to the 32 questions p. 27. If we were in England we should willingly joyne in some parts of Gods true worship and namely in hearing the Word where it is truly preached yea though wee doe not know them to be true Churches For some worship as prayer and preaching and hearing the Word is not peculiar to Church-Assemblies but may bee performed in other meetings Cottons letter examined p. 43. The second thing which Mr Cotton himselfe hath professed concerning English Preachers is that although the Word yet not the Seales may be received from them because saith he there is no Communion in hearing and the Word is to be preached to all but the Seales c. o Vide supra Chap. 3. G. p Cottons Letter examined p. 37. Cotton here confesseth these two things first if any reproach the Church of Salem for Separation it is a sin meet to be censured secondly the Churches themselves may be separated from who tolerate their members in such causlesse reproachings which I leave to himselfe to reconcile with his former profession against Separation q Vide supra Chap. 4. R r Vide supra Chap. 5. E 1 s Burtons Vindication p. 45. We esteeme the Government of Christs Church so holy as we cannot think them fit to be admitted be they never so good that think so slightly of the way and of them that walk in it that they refuse to agree to walk in this way with the people of God Ibid. p. 62. Doe you not know that no Infants have any title to Baptisme but by vertue of their Parents faith outwardly professed and what outward profession of faith in the Parents that refuse Christ for their only King If therefore the Parents refuse thus to be in visible Covenant can the children be said to be in visible Covenant and so to have a right to baptisme If then the Parents by refusing Christ as their King doe hereby cut
authority as Cosessors with him at the last Iudgement Luk. 22.27 to 30. sssss For this the Apologists did plead as much and as sharply as any ttttt I have heard some of their chiefe men discourse publikely enough to this purpose wwwww Cottons Catechism p. 10. The body of the Church hath power from Christ to enquire and heare and assist in the judgement of all publike scandals xxxxx Vide supra Chap. 4. TT yyyyy Vide supra Chap. 6. tt zzzzz Answer to the 32 Quest p. 61. If it appeare they who dissent from the major part are factiously or partially carried the rest labour to convince them of their errour by the rule if they yeeld the consent of all comfortably concurreth in the matter if they still continue obstinate they are admonished and so standing under censure their vote is nullified aaaaaa Ibid. If the difference still continue the sentence is still demurred even till other Churches have beene consulted with if the Church or the Elders should refuse the Testim●ny of other Churches according to God they will deny them the right hand of Fellowship c. bbbbbb Short story p. 32. Then M●stris Hutchinson kept open house for all commers and set up two Lecture dayes in the week when they usually met at her house three or fourscore persons the pretence was to repeat Sermons but when that was done she would comment upon the Doctrines and interpret all passages at her pleasure she did lay all that opposed her being neare all the Elders and most of the faithfull Christians in this Countrey under a Covenant of works to advance her Master-piece of immediate revelations wherin she had not failed of her aime to the utter subversion both of Churches and civill State if the Lord had not prevented it Ibid. p. 34. What say you to your weekly publike meetings Answ There were such meetings in use before I came we began it with five or six and though it grew to more in future time yet being tolerated at the first I knew not why it might not continue The Courts reply There were private meetings indeed and are still in many places of some few ne●ghbours we allow you to teach younger women privately and upon occasion but that gives no warrant for such set meetings for that purpose neither do yee teach them that which the Apostle commands to keep at home cccccc Apologet. Nar. p. 19. To the Magistrate we give as much and a● we think more then the principles of the Presbyteriall Government will suffer them to yeeld dddddd Williams paper Prop. 2. That the Saints are not to submit to the powers of the world or worldly powers and that the powers and governments of the world have nothing to doe with them for civill misdemeanors these Governours must keep in their owne spheare as Whales not to govern Whales but other fishes Lions not to governe Lions but the beasts of the forrest Eagles not to governe Eagles but the other foules of the ayre eeeeee Mr Williams related to me that Mistris Hutchinson with whom he was familiarly acquainted and of whom he spake much good after she had come to Rid Island and her husband had beene made Governour there she perswaded him to lay downe his Office upon the opinion which newly she had taken up of the unlawfulnesse of Magistracy ffffff Bloody Tenet p. 135. Williams sets down these words of Cottons modell The proper meanes whereby the civill power may and should attaine its end are only politicall and principally these five First the erecting and establishing what forme of civill Government may seem in wisedome most meet according to the generall rules of the Word and state of the people upon these words Williams comments thus from this grant I inferre that the Soveraign originall and foundation of civill power lies in the people whom they must needs meane by the civill power distinct from the Government set up and if so that a people may erect and establish what forme of Government seems to them most meet for their civill condition it is evident that such Governments as are by them erected and established have no more power nor for no longer time then the civill power or people consenting and agreeing shall betrust them with This is cleare not only in reason but in the experience of all Common-weals where the people are not deprived of their naturall freedome by the power of Tyrants How right this Commentary is Mr Cottons own words will declare set downe p. 140. In a free State no Magistrate hath power over the Bodies Goods Lands Liberties of a free people but by their free consent and because free men are not free Lords of their owne estates but are only stewards under God therefore they may not give their free consents to any Magistrate to dispose upon their Bodies Lands and Liberties at large as themselves please but as God the Soveraigne Lord of all pleases and because the Word is a perfect rule as well of righteousnesse as of holinesse it will be therefore necessary that neither the people give consent nor that the Magistrate take power but according to the lawes of the Word gggggg Vide supra Chap. 5. E. hhhhhh Bastwicks Independency second part Postscript p. 65. It may evidently appeare that all the projects of the Independents in getting prime places by Sea and Land and in the Armies and in the Townes Cities Forts and Castles and all other places and in all Committees is only for the advancement and fomenting of their Faction and this I conceive to be the only cause of all the linsie-woolsie Committees through the Kingdom iiiiii Williams Examination pag. 4. After my publike triall one of the most eminent Magistrates stood up and spoke Mr Williams said he holds forth that it is not lawfull to call a wicked person to sweare to pray as being actions of Gods worship kkkkkk Vide supra Chap. 3. TT WW AAA kkkkkk 2 Lieutenant Generall Cromwells Letter to the Parliament from Bristoll As for being united in formes commonly called uniformity every Christian for peace sake would study and doe as farre as Conscience would permit and from Brethren in things of the minde we look for no compulsion but that of Light and Reason in other things God has put the sword into the Parliaments hands for the terrour of evill doers and the praise of them that doe well if any plead exemption from it he knowes not the Gospell llllll Vide supra Chap. 2. HHHHH IIIII KKKKK mmmmmm 1 Vide supra ibid. mmmmmm 2 Vide infra mmmmmm 3. mmmmmm 3 Cottons Modell of power in the Bloody Tenet p. 140. The Magistrate in making Lawes about civill and indifferent things in the Common-wealth First he hath no power given him of God to make what Lawes he pleases either in restraining from or constraining to the use of indifferent things because that which is indifferent in its nature may sometimes be inexpedient in its use and consequently
unlawfull it is a prerogative proper to God to require obedience of the sons of men because of his Authority and Will It is an evill speech in some that in some things the will of the Law not the reason of it must be the rule of Conscience to walk by and that Princes may forbid men to seek any other reason but their authority yea when they command men frivola dura and therefore it is the duty of the Magistrate in all Lawes about indifferent things to shew the reasons not only the will to shew the expediency as well as the indifferency of things of that nature and because the judgement of expedient and inexpedient things is often difficult and diverse it is meet that such Lawes should not proceed without due consideration of the rules of expediency set downe in the Word which are these three First the rule of Piety that they may make for the glory of God 1 Cor. 10.31 Secondly the rule of charity that no scandall come thereby to any weak Brother 1 Cor. 8.13 Thirdly the rule of Charity that no man be forced to submit against his Conscience Rom. 14 14 23. nnnnnn 1 Vide supra Chap. 2. KKKKK nnnnnn 2 Cottons Modell in the Bloody Tenet p. 140. The Magistrate hath power to publish and apply such civill Lawes in a State as either are exprest in the Word of God in Moses Judicials to wit so farre as they are of generall and morall equity and so binding all Nations in all ages or else to be deducted by way of generall consequence and proportion from the Word of God nnnnnn 3 Ibid. p. 118. A strange modell of a Church and Common-wealth after the Mosaicall and Jewish patterne framed by many able learned and Godly hands which wakens Moses from his unknown grave and denies Iesus yet to have seen the earth oooooo Plaine Dealing p. 23. The Ministers give their votes in all elections of Magistrates pppppp Ibid. p. 25. The Ministers advise in making of Laws especially Ecclesiastick and are present in Courts and advise in some cases criminall and in framing of fundamentall Lawes Ibid. p. 27. A draught of a body of fundamentall Lawes according to the Iudiciall lawes of the Iewes hath been contrived by the Ministers and Magistrates and offered to the Generall Court to be established and published to the people qqqqqq Cottons third viall p. 8. In old time if a man playd the false Prophet the Lord judged him to death and so in the New Testament as in the Old he condemnes all such to death it is a Law Deut. 13. That false Prophets who did fundamentally pervert Religion should not live if high Treason against Princes on earth justly be punished by death verily this is as dishonourable to the Prince of all Princes that whole 13 of Deut. is spent about the seducing of false Prophets and he puts a threefold gradation if he be a Prophet Therfore never so seemingly holy by his place and gifts he shall surely be put to death if there be never so many that shall joyne if a whole City shall joyne together in such a course thou shalt rise against it and destroy the City and burne it with fire and leave not a stone upon a stone Ibid. p. 12. The third reason is taken from the just desert of soule-murther there is none of all these Priests or Iesuites or Hereticks but they worry and devoure the soules of Gods people and this murther of souls is justly a capitall crime as Moses said before if they thrust thee from thy God let not thine eye spare such kind of corrupters Ibid. p. 16. Are not Moses morall Lawes of perpetuall equity and therfore to be observed in all ages Is not murther of soules as damnable now as then a wonder that such f●ivolous interpretations should come in the hearts of men to hinder the free passage of the Justice of God on such notorious offenders Cottons third viall p. 8. on the 22 of Joshua when the two Tribes and an half set up an Altar by Iordan although they thought not to bring in an other object of worship but another manner of worship yet the other Tribes would have cut them off if they had found another Altar for worship he is the same God and h●s zeale is as deeply provoked against the like kinde of vitiousnesse now as ever he was then Ibid. p. 17. A soule that sinneth of ignorance may be pardoned but if he shall continue obstinate were it a City or a Tribe they shall not suffer such in a Countrey but you will say that the tares and wheat may grow together grant but it is not said that briers and thornes should grow up with them Ibid. p. 19. You see the first use is to justifie the equity of such capitall punishments upon Priests and Iesuites and consequently on such who bring in other Gods or another way of worshiping the true God then that wherein we may enjoy fellowship with the true God Cottons third Viall p. 19.20 For a second use it may serve to reprove the carnall and sinfull foolish pity that is found in any estate that shall bee sparing to spill such blood of the Priests and Iesuites the Lord loatheth this kind of lenity and indulgency cursed is he that doth the work of the Lord negligently and cursed is he that keepeth back his sword from blood when the Lord calls us to sheath the sword of Authority on such kinde of Delinquents a State shall be separate from God for these tolerations rrrrrr Vide supra Chap. 6. s ssssss Goodwins Theomachy also Chap. 5 G H and Chap. 6. kkkkkk 2 also Chap. 6. bbbb hhhh CHAP. VII It is unjust scrupulosity to require satisfaction of the true grace of every Church-Member HAving set down the Proceedings and Tenets of the Brownists and Independents so farre as my slender reading of some of their writings and observation of their wayes have brought to my memory at this time Before I leave them it will not bee unfit to examine the truth of their chiefe principles whereby they have disturb'd the Church and will continue so to doe untill they have changed their minde For shortnesse I will pitch but upon foure grounds which the Independents have learned in the Brownists schoole The first concerning the members of a Congregation The next three concerning their power We will first consider whither the members of every particular Church bee obliged at their first admission to shew to the whole Congregation convincing signs of their Regeneration and true grace Secondly whether the people of a Congregation have a power of voycing in every Ecclesiastick affaire Thirdly whether the power of the Congregation be absolute and Independent Fourthly whither every man who hath a gift though not an office hath power to preach and prophesie publickly The first question is of the grearest importance The Independents would gladly dissemble their minde therein to this day they have declined all
solemn debate upon it they speak as if they were either fully or very neere accorded with us professing their utter dislike of the Brownists unreasonablenesse herein but I professe this hath alwayes seemed to me their capitall and fundamentall difference the only cause of their separation from us and wherein if wee could either agree or accommodate there would be a faire possibility of accord in all things else at least so farre as to be united in one and the same Church but this difference is the great partition wall which so long as it stands will force them to continue their intolerable practice of separating from all the Reformed Churches in the world and that for fewer and more unjust causes then any who ever did carry the name of a Separatist to this day did pretend This seemes to bee the reason why both Apollonius and Spanheim very excellent Divines have begun their dispute with this question For the stating of the controversie consider how it stands betwixt us and the Independents at this time the Brownists for their separation were wont to alledge the impurity of our worship the corruption of our Government the open prophanesse of the most in our Congregations By the mercy of God the first is fully Reformed at least so farre according to the minde of our brethren that they have entred no dissenting vote to any one passage of the Directory for worship The Government also is so farre cleared in the Assemblie that they have entered their dissent from no part of it except that alone which concerns the Iurisdiction of Presbyteries and Synods and their dissent herein might and still may well be so carried as not to occasion any breach But the third is the great cause of division wherein they much out-runne the Brownists for they did never offer to separate upon this ground alone and the matter whereupon here they stumbled was only open profanenesse and that incorrigible either through want of power or want of care to remedy it If the profanenesse was not open and visible or if the Church had her full power to execute discipline and according to her power made conscience really to censure scandalls These things as I conceive would have abundantly satisfied the Brownists and cured their separation But the Independents now doe draw them up much higher then they were wont to stand They teach them to stumble not only at open profanenesse but at the want of true grace yea at the want of convincing signes of Regeneration They teach them to require not only a power and care in the Church to censure such profanenesse but also a power in every member of the Church to keep out all others with whom they are not satisfied in the truth of their grace So the question is not as usually it is made of the quality of the members of the Church but of the necessity to separate from that Church wherein we are not satisfied by convincing signs of the true faith and grace of every member at their first admission Wee grant it is earnestly to be wished and all lawfull meanes would diligently bee used both by Pastors and people to have all the members of a Church most holy and gratious and what ever lawfull overture our Brethren can invent for this end we with all our heart will embrace it or else be content to beare much blame We grant also that it is the duty of Church-Governours to keep off every scandalous person from profaning to their own damnation the holy things of the Lord and that it is the duty of these Governours not only to suspend from the holy Table all scandalous persons but farther to cast all such out of the Church without respect of persons in the case of obstinacy when by no meanes they can bee brought to satisfactory repentance we grant also that Church-Governours deficient in these duties ought themselves to be disciplined by the rod of Church-Censures these things were never controverted But the question is whether because of the admission of some to Church-membership who have not given satisfaction to every member of the Church in the point of their reall Regeneration a Church may lawfully be separated from as vitiously constitute for that essentiall defect in its very matter Our Brethrens constant and resolute practice albeit gilded over with many faire words maketh this to be the cleare state of the question against which I reason thus First What to Moses and the Prophets was not a sufficient cause of separation from the Churches of their time is not a sufficent cause for us to separate from the Churches in our times But want of satisfaction by convincing signes of the true grace of many members of the Church was not a sufficient cause for Moses and the Prophets to separate in their times Ergo The minor is cleare and uncontroverted for Moses and the Prophets were so farre from separating from the Churches of their dayes for want of assurance of the true grace of every person in these Churches that they remained still to their dying day in the bosome of these Churches comumnicating with them in the Word Prayer Sacraments and Sacrifices though they were assured of the evident wickednesse of the most of their fellow-members Moses knew the Body of Israel to bee a crooked and perverse generation Isaiah tells the Iewes that they were another Sodom Ieremy sheweth that Israel in his dayes was uncircumcised in heart no better then Moab Ammon or Edom Micah that the godly in his time were very rare as the summer fruits as the grapes after the Vintage of this truth all the Prophets are full yet for all this none of the Prophets did ever think of a separation All the difficulty then is in the major which thus we prove The Church in the dayes of Moses and the Prophets was one and the same with the Church of our dayes The House of God the body of Christ the Elect and redeemed people the holy Nation the peculiar treasure and spouse of the Lamb The difference of the true Church in any age is at most but in accidentall circumstances and not in any essentials so what ever morall evill doth defile the Church now and is a just cause of ejection or separation that must be so at all times especially under the old Testament where all the Ceremoniall differences that are alledged betwixt the Church then and now make for the strengthning of the Argument for then the causes of separation were stricter and smaller a little Ceremoniall pollution would then have kept out of the sanctuary much more a morall uncleannesse would have made the sacrifice abominable If therefore at that time the matter in hand was no cause of separating from the Church much lesse can it be so now when God hath given a greater liberty to the Church in her majority and when Christians are not so easily infected by their neighbours sinnes as of old in the dayes
of the Churches infancy they were Idolatry false doctrine open profanenesse were then most abominable and more terribly punished then now by the totall destruction of whole Cities and Countries wherein they were entertained also the duty of mutuall inspection and admonition the contempt whereof is made the grand cause of separation was most clearly enjoyned in the Old Testament What here is replyed that all separation from the Iewish Church was simply impossible because then there was no other Church in the whole earth to goe to We answer that the Replyers themselves will say that a separation must be where there is just cause and where a person cannot abide without pollution and sin although there be no other Church for him to go to for they make it better for men to live alone separate from all then to abide in any Church where they cannot live without the participation of their neighbours sinnes We answer further That it was easie for the godly under the Law to have joyned together in the service of God and to have excluded the wicked thence and whereas it is said that this could not bee done because the Censure of Excommunication was not then in being We answer the Gospel makes it cleare That casting out of the Synagogue which was reall Excommunication was frequent in the Old Testament as also the keeping off from the service with a great deale of circumspection all who were unfit by any legall pollution much more by any known morall uncleannesse Kings themselves when polluted were removed from the Altar and put out of the Sanctuary Again I reason thus That which moved not Christ and his Apostles to separate from the Church of their time is no cause to us of separation but want of satisfaction by convincing signes of the true grace of every member of the Church was to them no cause of separation from the Churches of their times Ergo. The major is cleare except we desire a better pattern for our practices then Christ and his Apostles what ever carrieth us beyond their line must be high presumption and deep hypocrisie The minor is cleare by many Scriptures the Scribes and Pharisees were a generation of vipers Ierusalem worse then Sodom and Gomorrah Corasin and Bethsaida was worse then Tyrus and Sidon and to be cast lower in Hell then these yet the Lord did not give over to preach to pray to go to the Temple with them Iudas when a declared Traytor did not scarre him nor any of his company from the Sacrament After he went from the Table when his wickednesse was revealed that a Devill was in him yet none of the Apostles offered to cast themselves out of the body because this wicked member was not cut off Many members of the Apostolick Churches were so farre from convincing signes of true grace that the works of the flesh were most evident in their life In the Corinthians fundamentall errours open Idolaty grievous scandall bitter contentions profanation of the Lords Table In the Galatians such errours as destroyed grace and made Christ of none effect In the Church of Ephesus of Laodicea and the other golden Candlesticks divers members were so evidently faulty that the Candlestick is threatned to be removed yet from none of these Churches did any of the Apostles ever separate nor gave they the least warrant to any of their Disciples to make a separation from any of them A third Argument The want of that which never was to bee found in any Church is no just cause of separation But satisfaction by convincing Arguments of the true grace of every member was never to be found in any Church The major is unquestionable for what is not cannot have any operation non entis nulla sunt accidentia The minor is demonstrable from the nature of a visible Church it is such a body whose members are never all gracious if we believe Scripture It is not like the Church invisible the Church of the Elect. It is an heterogeneous body the parts of it are very dissimilar some chaffe some corne some wheat some tares a net of fishes good and bad a house wherein are vessels of honour and dishonour a fold of sheep and goats a tree of green and withered branches a table of guests some with some without a wedding garment in a word every visible Church is a society wherein many are called few chosen except therefore we will alter the nature of all visible Churches whereof Scripture speaks we must grant that in every Church there are some members which have no true grace and if so how can they give convincing and satisfactory signes of that which is not to be found Hypocrites may make a shew without of that which is not within but shall we lay an obligation upon every hypocriticall member of a Church to be so eminently skilfull in the art of counterfeiting as to produce in the midst of his gracelesnesse so cleare so evident and satisfactory signes of his true grace as may convince the hearts of every one of the Church that the thing is within the mans breast which certainly is not there The fourth Argument The want of that which cannot reasonably be supposed of every member of a Congregation is no just cause of separation from any Church but satisfaction c. Ergo. The major is cleare for if the want of such satisfaction be a just cause of separation from the Church Then the presence of such a satisfaction is very requisite to be in every member as a necessary meane to keep it in union with that Church The minor that such a satisfaction may not justly be supposed in every member of a Congregation for this would import these foure things all which are unreasonable First that every member of a Congregation is to have power to try all its fellow-members to let them in or hold them out according as in this triall he is satisfied This is a large limb of the Brownistick Anarchy putting the key of Authority and Iurisdiction into the hand of every Church-member if all the Independents will defend this let them speak it out plainly Secondly it requires a great deale of more ability in every member of every Church then can be found in any mortall man for not to speak of the impossibility of a grounded and certaine perswasion of true grace in the heart of an Hypocrite who hath no grace at all how is it possible to attaine unto any grounded certainty of true grace in the heart of any other man for the hid man of the heart and the new name are not certainly known to any but to such as have them The grounds of a mans own certain perswasion the act of his faith either direct or reflex the witnesse of his conscience or the seale of the spirit cannot go without his own breast all the demonstrations which can be made to another are so oft found false that in understanding men they
Ghost the sonnes and daughters of the Father must be understood as many such priviledges of the universall and invisible Church or when any of them are to be applyed to a particular visible Church they must be understood of that Church not according to every one but only the living and gracious members thereof That such priviledges of the Catholicke invisible Church when they are applyed to a particular visible Congregation are to be understood according to this distinction of members Robinson him selfe while yet in his rigid separation grants it expresly The places thus expounded prove not the point for grant to every Congregation so high priviledges as you will yet if they must be verified of that Congregation only according to some members and not according to all if they be to be understood only of the Elect in that Congregation who have the sanctifying Spirit of Christ not of many others who are dead in nature and yet are such members who have right from God according to our Brethrens own Tenet to perform Church acts such as are the preaching of the Gospel the celebration of the Sacraments the admission of members the execution of censures with such authority from Christ as makes all these acts truly valid for the comfort and salvation of the Elect they prove not the true grace of every person whom we must acknowledge to be a true member of a Church If you will extend these places to every singular member of particular visible Churches as indeed the Argument if it have any strength doth import the absurdity will be great for so it will carry to the Pelagianisme of Arminius in the extent of the true grace of God beyond the Elect to all the members of a visible Church also to the totall and finall Apostacy of many who are the Temples of the holy Ghost the members of Christ the faithfull and sanctified children of God For the Argument maketh every member of any visible Church to be such daily experience proves that many members of every visible Church are castawayes Yea the Argument drives further then any of the Arminians will follow for however they extend the true and saving grace of God beyond the Elect members of a Church yet none of them ever said that this sanctifying and saving grace must be in every person before they can bee admitted members of any Church For this is that grosse errour which the Independents have learned not so much from Arminius as Socinus to put all men unconverted without the Church that in this condition they may be converted by the preaching of private men and if by Pastors yet by their Preaching not as Pastors but as private men dealing with these who are none of their Flock but without the Church Neither doe the Socinians so farre as I know extend their Tenet thus farre as to require all before they be members of the Church to be truly regenerate as if the only instrument of regeneration and conversion were the preaching of private men without the Church and the preaching of Pastors within the Church did serve only for the continuing of the sence of justification and the encrease of sanctification as being performed of purpose only unto these persons who at their first entrance into the Church while yet they were without and but comming in have demonstrate the certainty of their enjoying these graces The second Argument God receives none to be members of the visible Church but those who shall be saved but the Stewards of Gods house may receive none but whom God doth receive Ergo the Stewards of Gods house may receive none to bee members of a visible Church but those who shall be saved Answer The Conclusion is subject to the most of the faults observed upon the conclusion of the former Argument which I doe not repeat only consider that this conclusion beareth expresly that none may be members of a visible Church but these who shall be saved and so who are truly Elect. We would not be deceived with their distinctions of inward and outward holinesse of seeming and reall grace of charitable and veritable discerning for this and the other Argument inferres flatly that no other must be received as members in a visible Church but such as first are tryed and found to bee really holy and who shall be saved We Answer therefore to the Minor That it is evidently false for the Reasons which we brought upon the Minor of the former Argument The place of the Acts brought for the proofe of it is detorted such as were to be saved were added to the Church is this indefinite proposition to be understood universally that all who were to be saved were added to the Church the former Argument maketh this no necessary truth for if men must be justified sanctified and put in the way of salvation before they be added to the Church then though they were never added to the Church they may well bee saved They would doe well here to remember their own ordinary practice contrary to that which here they professe to be the way of God Why doe they not adde to their Church all that are to be saved why exclude they many whom they grant to be truly gracious and Elect upon this ground alone that they cannot approve of their Independency or Covenant Or suppose the proposition to be universall yet must it be reciprocall and convertible Be it so that all who were to be saved were added to the Church yet must all who are added to the Church be saved This is an evident untruth Will they that all the members of their Church must be saved or doe they think that all the persons of their Churches who shall not be saved were never true members of their visible Church Iudas was made a member of the Apostolick society by Christ and many men were brought into the visible Church by the Prophets and Apostles who shall not be saved Shall damnation and want of true grace cast them all out of the true Church and take from them their power and right to do the actions of a Church-member The third Argument If it be put in any forme will readily fall under the exceptions of the first but since the Author puts no forme upon it I shall only consider its matter It consists of the misapplication of three Scriptures first of Peters Confession Mat●h 8. they alledge that such a profession of Faith as the Father reveales to particular persons is the ground of a visible Church and so who ever is a member of that Church must both professe Faith and have the Spirit to indite that profession Answer This is a strange Argument For first we may not admit that the Church founded upon the Rock is every particular visible Church The priviledges of the Catholike and visible Church which the Iesuites by all their wrestlings have never been able to extort from us for their Idoll
of Rome shall we throw them away upon every Independent Congregation how unstable Rocks these Congregations are and how easily by small tentations shaken in pieces themselves may remember Secondly the Rock whereupon the Church is builded is Christ whom Peter did confesse we may not make any mans profession were it never so cleere and never so zealous the foundation of the Church in such a fashion that the ignorance or hypocrisie of any man may remove the foundation of any Church Thirdly shall no man be a member of a Church till the holy Ghost dictate unto him such a confession of Faith as he did unto Peter if none but the Elect and those who are filled with the holy Ghost may be members of Churches the Anabaptists have won the field However what here is alledged is not true of Peter himselfe who long before that confession was a member of the Church The second place mis-applied is the reproofe of the guest for his comming to the Lords Feast without the wedding-garment whereupon is inferrd the duty of the Church to hold out all who want the wedding-garment of true grace Answ This conclusion is not only beside but against the Text vers 9.10 the servants are commanded to invite as many as they could finde both good and bad they had no commission to hold out any for want of the wedding-garment for that garment was within upon the soule unperceptible by any but his eye who searches the heart and the reynes The Apostles in their search went not beyond a blamelesse profession and experience may teach our Brethren that themselves are able to reach no farther finding after all their triall so many in their purest Congregations whom time declares to want that garment The third place mis-applyed is the parable of the Tares as if the Tares came into the Church by the sleepinesse of the servants Answ This also is a bold addition to Scripture it is not said while the servants sleeped but while men sleeped noting no negligence in men who did sleep when it was seasonable and necessary for them to sleep but only the secret and dark time of the night or the secret dark and imperceptible way of Satan his working in hypocrites and corrupting the Church However this part of the parable is no wayes argumentative for Christ in his full application toucheth not at all upon this circumstance but the maine scope of the parable declareth to us the nature of the visible Church upon earth contrary to the argument in hand That Christ doth not intend to have upon earth any Church wherein the Tares shall not be mixed with the wheat for if he did not finde in his wisedome the expediency of this administration hee could in his power easily alter or prevent it Their fourth argument is drawn from the second to Timothy 3.5 who have a form of Godlinesse but deny the power of it from such we must turne away Ergo who are not found to have positive and satisfactory signes of regeneration ought not to be admitted members of any Church Answ The consequent is naught for the strength of it will lie in this proposition Every professor who bringeth not demonstrative signes of his regeneration and true grace is a man who hath the forme of godlinesse and denyeth the power thereof How false this is both the Text and our Brethrens practice will evidence The Text puts it out of doubt that the men whom the Apostle calls the denyers of the power of godlinesse are persons openly scandalous and flagitious as the verses both before and after doe demonstrate even such whom the Apostle describes Tit. 1. abominable disobedient and to every good work reprobate Now it is cleare that many professors who are not able to bring out any convincing signes of their regeneration are notwithstanding free from all scandall and however many hypocrites can goe beyond them in making faire and satisfactory shewes to men yet sundry of them may be the elect children of God and really most gracious in his eyes how unable or unwilling soever they be to make this much appeare to the world Secondly the men whom the Apostle speaks of are to be cast out of the Church after their admission but our Brethren will not cast out all of whose regeneration they are not convinced after once they are admitted for if so Excommunication in every Church would become too frequent Their fifth argument is this No hypocrite none who at last will leave their first Love are to be admitted in the Church for all such will ruine the Church and procure the removing of the Candlestick but all that cannot prove their regeneration convincingly are such Answ This is a bold and rash argument laying a necessity to exclude all hypocrites from the Church and all such as may fall away from any degree of their first love We answer then that the minor is very false for many gracious persons farre from hypocrisie and free from all decay of their first love may be unable to satisfie themselves or others in the certaine truth of their regeneration But the major is more false against the practise of Christ and the Apostles who did alwayes receive divers hypocrites and our Brethren dare not deny that they do so also for their Churches consist not all of reall Saints However the very Text alledged proveth our Tenet for Ephesus to Christ there is a most true Church notwithstanding their fall from their first Love and his threatning of them with the removall of their Candlestick if they did not repent Unto this fifth they subjoyne as appendices two other arguments taken from the ancient types under the Law The first The stones in Solomons Temple were not laid rough in the building Ergo men irregenerate must not bee admitted members of a Christian Church Answ This is a wanton argument though the Temple might be a type of every Congregation and the stones of Temple of the members of a particular visible Church yet that the roughnesse of the stones should be a type of irregeneration and above all that the place of hewing these stones should be a type and that argumentative to inferre that the place of our vocation regeneration justification and sanctification must be without the Church and that it is necessary we be like a stone perfectly hewen before wee be laid in the Church building this is a kinde of Ratiocination which solid divinity will not admit The other typicall argument is this The porters excluded uncleane persons from the Temple therefore the Officers ought to keep the irregenerate from the Church Answ There is no argumenting from symbolick types except where the spirit of God in Scripture applies a type to such a signification and use Where did our Brethren learne to make the porters of the Temple types of the Church-officers Their people will not bee content to be cheated of the Keyes by such symbolizing If they will
here of Apostles and not of ordinary Ministers is not satisfactory for he speaks both of Apostles and ordinary Ministers because of such officers who were to remain in the Church unto the end of the world and with whose Ministry he was alwayes and ever to be present as it followeth in verse 20. But the Church from that time to the worlds end was not to be served by Apostles only who soon after were removed but by ordinary Pastors also the Apostles Successors Moreover there is no reason for the connexion of baptism and Preaching in the person of the Apostles that will not hold as well if not better in the person of ordinary Ministers Our other proofe of the major is this The power of preaching is more then the power of baptisme Ergo who have the first have the second also The antecedent is manifest from 1 Cor. 1.17 Christ sent me not to baptise but to preach to intimate the excellency of the one above the other the Apostle declares not only his seldome practice of the one but denyeth his commission for it in comparison of the other The second Argument Who ever have power to preach are sent of God to preach But these who have no office in the Church are not sent of God to preach Ergo They that have no office in the Church have no power to preach The major is grounded on Rom. 10.15 How shall they preach except they be sent The minor may bee proved not only from the nature of the thing the calling of God to preach and a mans ordinary preaching on Gods call importing an office and charge to do such a work but also from the place in hand compared with its fountaine whence it is derived Isay 52.8 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voyce where it is cleare that these whom the Lord sends to preach are watchmen from whose hand the blood of them that die without warning will be required Ezeck 33.6 Who watch for the peoples soules as they who must give an account Heb. 12.17 which is not true of any man who hath no charge Every ordinary preacher labours in the word and doctrine no man out of office labours in the word and doctrine for labouring in the word and doctrine is the character and specifick difference of the Pastor and Doctor whereby they are distinguished from the ruling Elder 1 Tim. 5.17 This character and form of the prime Officers cannot be given to men out of all office The major is proved from the very terms of the proposition for no man can acquire an ability to preach ordinarily the Word in the Congregation and to exercise that gift for the Churches edification without great and constant labouring in that Word Fourthly Every Preacher of the Word hath gotten a gift from Christ for the perfecting of the Saints for the work of the Ministry for the edifying of the body of Christ but no man out of office hath gotten such a gift Ergo. The major they do not deny for they make the ground of their Prophets preaching to be their gift to edifie the Church The minor thus we prove Apostles Evangelists Prophets Pastors and Doctors are not out of office But all who have received such gifts are Apostles c. Ergo none who have received such gifts are out of office The major none will deny the minor is grounded on Ephes 4.8 11. where there is a perfect enumeration of all the teaching gifts which Christ gave to the Church for edification of these are reckoned up only five Apostles c. and to Gods perfect numbers men may not adde Fifthly It was unlawfull for men out of office to sacrifice Ergo it is unlawfull for men out of office to preach The consequence lieth in the parity of preaching to sacrificing the one being as great an honour if not a greater then the other for I suppose it will be granted that the Sacraments of the New Testament are in many respects more excellent then the Sacrifices of the old Now preaching as we have proved before is more excellent then baptism a Sacrament of the New Testament The antecedent is proved from Heb. chap. 5. v 3.4 5. No man taketh this honour to himselfe viz. to offer up Sacrifices but he that is called of God as was Aaron so also Christ glorified not himselfe to be made an High Priest Here it is made unlawfull both for Aaron and Christ to offer up Sacrifices before they had a calling to be Priests Sixthly Whoever have gotten of God a calling or a gift to preach the Gospel they are obliged to keep encrease their gift to improve that calling by giving themselves wholy to reading by laying aside all worldly occupations not intangling themselves with the things of this life but no man out of office is thus obliged Ergo. The minor they grant for they will not have their Prophets to be so much in reading as may distract them from their worldly Trade and civill occupation The major is proved from 1 Tim. cha 4. ver 13.14 15. where Timothy is commanded to keep his gift of preaching by the meanes named The reason is alike to all that have that gift whether they have it by Prophesie laying on of the hands of the Presbytery as Timothy had it or any otherwayes for the gifts of God however gotten must not bee neglected and the meanes prescribed of God for the entertaining of these gifts may not bee slighted least of all by them in whom the gift is but mean and small they of all others have most need of the strongest meanes to make their smoking flax to burn beside publick preaching is a faculty of that nature that all the reading and attendance which any man can bestow upon it will have enough ado to support and entertaine it in any usefull and edifying condition Seventhly None may lawfully preach but such as the Apostles appointed to preach But the Apostles appointed no man out of office to preach The minor alone is questionable which thus we prove The Apostles appointed no others to preach but Elders Ergo none out of office The antecedent we have from Titus 1.5 That thou shouldest ordaine Elders in every City as I had appointed thee Eightly the permitting of private men out of office to preach is a great meanes of confusion in the Church and breeding of errors and strife Ergo it s not of God The antecedent is made too cleare by daily experience the consequence is builded upon the nature of God who is a God and Author of truth and order what is from him is conduceable to these ends not to the contrary The opposite Arguments are many Robinson while yet he was as I suppose in the height of his Separation did fill a whole book with them the best of these Arguments whereupon our Brethren are pleased to pitch be these following First in the Church of Corinth men
particular Service of the Ministery Acts. 13.1 There was in the Church certaine Prophets and Teachers and the Holy Ghost sayd Separate me Barnabas and Saul to the worke whereunto I have called them and when they had fasted and prayed and layd their hands on them they sent them away Fourthly None of the people ordinarily have the gifts requisite for this action as skill to examine the Minister in all things he must be tried in a gift of publicke prayer a faculty to instruct and exhort the Pastour and people to mutuall duties Seventhly That power belongeth not to the people which disableth them both in their Christian and Civill duties But the power of Ecclesiastick Jurisdiction doth so The Major is grounded on the nature of all power and all gifts which God doth give for all are for edification and none for the hurt of these to whom they are given The Minor may be demonstrated by this That it layes a necessity upon all the people to attend in the Sabbath day upon the exercise of discipline which by the very length will make the Sabbath-Service insupportably burdensome and also will fill the mindes of the people with these purposes which naturally occurre in the agitation of Ecclesiasticke causes and cannot but cast out of common weake mindes much of the fruite of the preceding worship Further the peoples necessary attendance on all Ecclesiasticke causes will make the processe in the most causes so prolix as cannot but robbe the people of that time which they ought to imploy in their secular callings for getting of bread For every one of the people being a Judge must be so satisfyed in every circumstance of every action as to give their Suffrage upon certaine knowledge and with a good conscience now before this can be done in a few causes of the smallest and best ordered Congregations much time will be spent as the Church of Arneim found it in one cause alone though but a light one and betwixt two onely even of their cheife and best Members Eighthly That power is not to be given to the people which brings in the popular government of Morellius into the Church but the power in question doth so The Major is the common assertion of all the Brethren that they are farre from democracy and further from Morellius anarchy and that they are ready to forsake their Tenet if it can be demonstrated to import any such thing The Minor thus we prove That which puts the highest acts of Government in the hands of the multitude brings in the popular government for in the greatest democracies that are or ever have beene there were divers acts of great power in the hand of sundry Magistrates but the highest acts of power being in the hands of the people alone such as the making of Lawes the creation of Magistrates the censure of the greatest Offendors these were the sure signes of Supremacy that gave the denomination to the government Now we assure that the Tenet in hand puts the highest acts of Ecclesiastick Authority in the hands of the people For the Ordination and Deposition of Officers the binding and loosing of Offendours are incomparably the highest acts of Ecclesiasticke Jurisdiction These they put in the hand of the people That they doe conjoyne with the people the Officers to expound the Law and declare what is right and to give out the sentence makes nothing against the peoples Supremacy for in Rome and Athens at their most democraticke times and this day in the States of Holland in all the Provinces and every City where the people are undoubted Soveraignes they have their Magistrates and Officers in all their proceedings to goe before them to declare the case to take the Suffrages and to pronounce the Sentence As for them who of late have begun to put the whole Authority in the Officers alone and to give the people onely a liberty of consenting to what the Officers doe decree of their owne Authority wee say they are but few that doe so and these contradictory to themselves Also these same men give absolute Authority to the people in divers cases further that liberty of consent they come to call an authoritative concurrence Lastly the most of the arguments even of these men doe conclude not onely a liberty to consent and to concurre but an authoritative agency in the highest acts of Jurisdiction Ninthly They who have the power of Jurisdiction have also the power of preaching the word and celebrating the Sacraments unlesse God in his word have given them a particular and expresse exemption from that imployment But none of the people have power to preach the word and celebrate the Sacraments Ergo. The Major is built on these Scriptures which conjoyne the administration of the Word Sacrament and Discipline in one and the same termes and upon these Scriptures which lay a part of these administrations upon some men with an expresse exception of another part of them Math. 16.19 under the name of the Keys of the Kingdome of Heaven is comprehended the whole Ecclesiasticke power of the Word Sacraments and Discipline what there is promised Joh. 20. it is performed in these termes as the Father hath sent me so I send you But 1 Tim. 5.17 where this power is separated and distinguished the one part of Jurisdiction is ascribed to the ruling Elders with an expresse intimation of their freedome from preaching the Word and by consequence from celebration of the Sacraments The Minor was that none of the people have power of the word and Sacraments For the power of the Sacraments it is confessed not to belong to the people That the power of preaching the Word belongeth no more to them was proved in the former Chapter None of our Brethren doe ascribe the power of preaching to all the People but onely to a few of them who are able to prophesie so the power of Jurisdiction according to the ground in hand could be ascribed to none of the people but these few Prophets alone For the other side the Separatists and Master Parker in this point as farre wrong as the other bring many arguments but I will meddle onely with these which Master Cotton doth borrow from them in his way of the Churches and answer to the 32. Questions First from Math. 16.19 he reasons thus The Power of the Keys is given unto Peter upon the confession of his faith Ergo every Beleever hath the Power of the Keys Answer I deny the consequence for however upon the occasion of his confession the Keys are promised to him yet they are not promised to him because of his confessing nor under the relation of a beleever for if so then all and onely beleevers should have the full Power of the Keys but our Brethren will be loth to avow this direct Assertion of Smith the Sebaptist for they doe not ascribe the Power of the Sacraments to any beleever out of Office nor any power of
Church hath alwayes and ordinarily the right of Ordination and power to lay hands on Pastors But no single Congregation or Parochiall Church huth that right and power Ergo No single Congregation is an Independent Church The Major is not questioned by the adverse party for they place the nature of their Independencie in a right and power intrinsecall and essentiall to every the least Congregation of Ordaining Deposing Excommunicating and exercising all acts of Jurisdiction upon all their own Members as well Pastors as others I said alwayes and ordinarily for we question not now what at some times in some extraordinary cases may fall out to be lawfull and necessary not onely to single Congregations but even to single persons Also the power which our adverse party disputeth for is not Hypotheticke which sometimes on supposition of such and such cases belongeth to a Church but absolute which is inherent to every Congregation at all times The Minor we prove thus What is proper to a Presbytery the right thereof belongs not to any single Congregation But Ordination and imposition of hands is proper to a Presbytery as appeareth from 1 Tim. 4 14. Neglect not the gift that is in thee which was given thee by Prophesie with the laying on of the hands of the Presbytery The Apostle maketh that right proper to the Presbytery which he will have to remaine in it and not to be removed therefrom notwithstanding sundry extraordinary cases which might have excused the removeall of it For Timothy was a Pastor not altogether ordinary and inferior but an Evangelist he had for the ground of his Office the extraordinary call of some Prophets when he was sent out to Preach Paul himself laid hands upon him notwithstanding all this that the due and just right of the Presbytery migh be proclamed the Apostle marketh that the gift office and grace of Preaching the Gospell was conferred on Timothy by the laying on of the Presbyteries hands For the proof of the last Maior we neede not much descant on the Word Presbytery and the sense of it in the fore-named place nor to refute the misinterpretations which some make of it especially they who under the mis-alledged authority of Calvin would understand not the convention of any men but the Office of a Presbyter as if an Office or any accident could have had hands which might have beene laid on Timothies head Passing therefore such digressions we prove the Maior in hand thus No single Congregation is a Presbytery nor any wayes necessarily hath a Presbytery within it selfe yea if our adverse party may be beleeved no Congregation can have at least should have in it selfe such a Presbytery whereof Paul speaketh Ergo. What is proper to a Presbytery the right thereof may not be usurped by any single Congregation Of the consequence there is no doubt the Antecedent hath three parts onely the first is needefull to be proved but for more abundant satisfaction we shall assay to prove them all The first thus A Presbytery is a member and part of a Congregation according to our adverse party we love not to strive for words be it so that the meeting of a Minister and Elders governing single Congregations which we call a Session as over-Sea it is called a Consistory may goe under the name of a Presbytery Ergo. No Congregation is a Presbytery The Consequence is clear for no member may be affirmed in the Nominative of its owne whole especially Heterogeneous The body is not the head the finger is not the hand he doore or the Window is not the house Concerning the second part of the Antecedent that no Congregation hath a Presbytery any wayes necessarily within it selfe this is cleare from the common practise of our adverse party very oft their Churches have neither Session nor Pastor nor Doctor nor Elder at all they make not any of the Officers necessary parts of the Church either essentiall or integrall without the which the Church may not subsist yea as the most learned and most acute Mr. Rutherfoord hath well observed pag. 272. their grounds take away the necessitie of any Ministry at all Mr. Paget tells us that their chiefe and Mother-Church at Amsterdame through the mis-government of their Pastor Mr. Can hath wanted now for some yeares both a Doctor and Elders and a Session or Congregationall Presbytery But the pith of the Argument is in the third part of the Antecedent that no single Congregation can have or which is all one when we speake of right and wrong ought to have within it selfe Pauls Presbytery This we prove No single Congregation may or ought to have moe Pastors than one Ergo. Neither Pauls Presbytery The Antecedent is the Doctrine of our adverse party The Consequence leaneth on this Proposition In Pauls Presbytery are more Pastors which thus is proved Where there are many layers on of hands on Pastors there are many Pastors But in Pauls Presbytery are many layers on of hands on Pastors for in the alledged place not one but many lay on their hands with Paul on Timothy The last Maior leaneth on this ground that onely Pastors lay hands on Pastors so that many laying hands on Pastors must be many Pastors and by Consequence in one Congregation where there are not many but one onely Pastor yea none at all whensoever by imposition of hands a new Pastor is to be ordained to that Congregation the act of Ordination can not be lawfully performed by the proper members of that Congregation That which alone remaineth to be proved that onely Pastors lay hands upon Pastors is cleared by an Induction against which no instance can be brought 1 Tim. 5.22 Lay hands suddenly on no man 2 Tim. 1.6 Stirre up the gift of God that is in thee by the putting on of my hands Tit. 1.5 I left thee in Crete that thou shouldest ordayne Elders Acts. 13.1.3 Certaine Prophets and Teachers laide their hands upon them and sent them away Acts. 14.23 They ordained them Elders in every Church In all these places both the first Ordination and posterior Mission to preach the Gospell is the Act onely of those who were Pastors neither else-where reade we that it was otherwise The second argument Every Independent Church exerciseth ordinarily within it selfe by its owne members all acts of Ecclesiasticke Jurisdiction But this no single Congregation doth ordinarily Ergo no single Congregation is an Independent Church Onely the Minor is dubious which we prove thus Every Church ordinarily exercising all acts of Ecclesiastick Jurisdiction is Presbyteriall But no single Congregation is a Presbyteriall Church Ergo. No single Congregation exerciseth ordinarily all acts of Ecclesiastick Jurisdiction The Minor is cleare from the nature of a single Congregation and Presbyteriall Church as in the stateing of the Question both were described The Major is proved by a full Induction of all the Churches which in the New Testament we reade to have had the
offended by a brother as well without as within the same Congregation and as well by many brethren as by one yea as well may we be offended by a whole Church as by one member thereof Now if after the minde of our adverse party the subordination of fewer to moe might not be extended without the bounds of one Congregation the Lords medecine were not meete to cure very many ordinary and daily scandals for what if a man be scandalized by the neighbour Church To whom shall he complaine When the Church offending is both the Judge and party it is likely she will misregard the complaints that are made to her of her selfe What if a man be scandalized by his owne Church or by the most or by the strongest part of it What if that Church to whom he complaineth take part against Justice and reason with him upon whom he complaines It will be impossible to remedy innumerable offences which daily fall out among brethren unlesse appeales be granted and the subordination established by Christ be extended not onely without the bounds of one Parish but as farre and wide as the utmost limits of the Church universall for upon this place is rightly grounded by the Ancients the Authority of Synods even Oecumenick of all the Churches Thirdly the subordination established by Christ Matth. 18. is so farre to be extended in the Christian Church as it was extended in the Church of the Jewes for Christ there alludeth to the Jewish practise But so it is that in the Iewish Church there was ever a subordination of fewer to moe not onely within the same Synagogue but within the whole Nation and so within the whole Church Universall for all Synagogues everywhere in the world were under the great Councell at Ierusalem No doubt of the Minor the Major is builded upon this ground that what ever Christ hath translated from the Synagogue to the Church especially if it be of naturall equity hath as great force now amongst Christians as of old among the Iewes Now that the subordination of Synagogues to the great Councell is of naturall equity it appeareth thus A Synagogue was the lowest Ecclesiasticke Court the Councell was the highest but the subordination of the lowest Court to the highest is of naturall right for Nature hath ever dictated to all Nations as well in things civill as religious a subordination of the lowest to the highest Our fifth Argument That which taketh away all possibility of any effectuall remedy against Heresie Idolatry Schisme Tyranny or any other mischiefe that wracks either one or moe Churches is not of God for God is the Author and conserver of truth purity union order liberty and of all vertue God of his goodnesse and wisedome hath provided for all and every one of his Churches meanes and remedies which if carefully made use of are sufficient to hinder the first arising of Heresie Schisme or any other evill and when they are risen to beate them downe and abolish them so that what ever cherisheth these mischiefes and is a powerfull instrument to preserve them safe that none with any power with any authority for any purpose may get them touched that must be much opposite to the Spirit of God and good of the Church But such is Independencie as both reason and experience will prove Behold first severall Churches Suppose which too oft hath falne out that the Pastor become a pernicious Hereticke let him beginne with the venome of his Doctrine to poyson the hearts of his people what shall be the remedie Independency bindes the hands of Presbyteries and Synods Pastors of Neighbouring Congregations have no power to binde or expell that ravenous wolfe in the destroyed flock there is no Pastor but the wolfe himselfe Be it so that the people in their judgement of discretion perceive well enough the wickednesse of the false doctrin whereby they are corrupted yet the office charge and authority to cure their Pastors disease lyeth not on them The Spirits of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets the Pastor is not to be proceeded against with censure by the people of his flocke for so the order which God hath established in his Church should be inverted if they whom hee hath commanded to obey should rule and they whom he hath set above and over the flocke should be under it Further Suppose the Pastor to be most gracious what if the flocke or the greater part of the flocke become so wicked as to abuse their Pastor or to abuse the most godly of the Congregation What if a wicked spirit of Heresie Schisme or Tyranny set the most part of the flocke against God against their gracious Pastor and the godly of the flocke what shall be done in this pitifull and very possible yea oft contingent case Ind●pendency closeth the doore of the troubled Congregation that no man may goe out to cry for any powerfull helpe to neighbours though their kindled house should burne them all to death within there is no remedy for all most goe there by the number of voyces and the most part oppresseth the best the most wicked go on against the Councells the intreaties the prayers of the rest and cease not till they have either corrupted or cast out their Pastor Elders and all of their fellow-members who are constant in goodnesse that so their wickednesse without controle may domineere in the whole subdued Congregation So long as Independency standeth no effectuall authoratative or powerfull helpe can possibly be found for the preservation of any single Congregation against ruine and totall subversion Further Independency hazards the being of all Churches as well as of every one For who shall hinder any member of a corrupted Congregation to infect all the neighbour Churches with the poyson of his doctrine and manners If a ramping Lyon a viperous Serpent a crafty Fox should goe and devour all the Lambs of the neighbour flocks Independency doth hinder any order to be taken with that limbe of Sathan no sword of censure can be drawne against him he must be referred absolutely to his owne Congregation other Churches may intreate advise and pray him not to make havoke of them but should he trouble infect and destroy twenty an hundred a thousand neighbour Congregations no Ecclesiastick censure may passe upon him but by his owne Church and when complaints of him come to his owne Church his misdeedes there are excused defended commended his Heresies are proclamed sound doctrine his devouring of soules is declared to be zeale and painfulnesse to win soules to CHRIST Our Argument is backed by experience as well as by reason The first Independent Church we reade of was that company which Mr. Browne brought over from England to Middleborough how long did it stand before it was destroyed by Independency when once Anabaptistick novelties and other mischiefes fell among them there was no remedy to prevent the companies dissolution When Mr. Barrow and his fellowes assaied at London to
till the last day when Christ renders up his Oeconomicke Kingdome having destroyed all his enemies especially death fully perfected the work of his mediation This Resurrection is after the sound of the last Trumpet when all the godly rise and are changed and put on incorruption and immortallity when death is swallowed up into victory and the godly inherit the Kingdome of God these things are done at the last day not a thousand yeares before it as John 6. Christ avoweth thrice in the end ver 39.40.44 I will raise him up at the last day At that time the judgement is universall both of the godly and wicked and the execution of both their sentences is immediately by the present glorification of the one and the destruction of the other as we have it Math. 25.31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory before him shall be gathered all Nations and he shall separate them one from another as a shepheard divideth his sheepe from the Goats Fourthly we reason from the nature of Christs Kingdome The conceit of the thousand yeares makes Christs Kingdome to be earthly and most observeable for all worldly glory but the Scripture makes it to be Spirituall without all wordly pompe neither doth the Word of God make the Kingdome of the Mediator of two kindes and of a different nature but one uniforme from the beginning to the end Luke 1.32 The Lord shall give him the throne of his Father David and he shall raigne over the house of Jacob for ever 1 Cor. 15.25 He must raigne till he have put all things under his feete here there is but one Kingdome and one way of ruling a Kingdome meerely Spirituall and nowise worldly Luke 17.20 The Kingdome of God commeth not with observation neither shall they say loe here or loe there but the Kingdome of God is within you John 18.36 My Kingdome is not of this world if my Kingdome were of this world then would my servants fight but now is my Kingdome not from hence Rom. 14 17. The Kingdome of God is not meate and drinke but righteousnesse peace and joy of the holy Ghost Ephes 1.20 He raised him from the dead and set him at his right hand in heavenly places and hath put all things under his feete and gave him to be head over all to the Church The Millenaries make his Kingdome to appeare in Armies and Battells in feasts and pleasures in worldly pompe and power and will not have his Kingdome to stand in any of that spirituall power which since his ascention he hath executed on principalities and powers or shall performe upon the soules of men till these thousand yeares of worldly power and earthly glory visible to the eyes of men shall begin We take our fifth argument from the nature of the Church Scripture makes the Church of God so long as it is upon the earth to be a mixed multitude of Elect and Reprobate good and bad a company of people under the crosse and subject to various temptations a company that hath neede of the Word and Sacraments of Prayer and Ordinances that hath Christ a High Priest within the vaile of heaven interceding for them But the Doctrine in hand changes the nature of the Church and makes it for a thousand yeares together to consist onely of good and gracious persons without all trouble without all Ordinances without any neede of Christs intercession For the first That Scripture makes the Church alwayes to be a mixed company See Matth. 13.40 As the tares are gathered and burnt in the fire so shall it be in the end of the world The Sonne of man shall send forth his Angels and they shall gather out of his Kingdome all things that offend and that doe iniquity and vers 49. So shall it be in the end of the world the Angels shall come forth and sever the wicked from among the just Also Chap. 24.11 Many false Prophets shall arise and deceive many because iniquity shall abound the love of many shall waxe cold Luke 18.8 When the Sonne of man commeth shall he finde faith upon the earth These places declare the mixture of the wicked with the godly in the Church to the worlds end and most about the end As for Crosses See Psal 34.20 Many are the afflictions of the righteous Mat 5 4. Blessed are they that mourne and that are persecuted for righteousnesse Acts 14.23 By many tribulations we must enter into the Kingdome of heaven Rom. 8.17 If so we suffer with him that we may be glorified together 2 Tim. 3.12 All that will live godly in Christ Jesus must suffer persecution Heb. 12.6 Whom the Lord loves he correcteth and he scourgeth every child that he receives Many such places shew the condition of the Church in this life that she is ever subject to tribulation Concerning Ordinances that they must continue to the last day See Ephes 4.11 He gave some Pastors and Teachers for the perfecting of the Saints for the worke of the Ministry for the edifying of the body of Christ till we all come to a perfect man And for the continuance of the Sacraments 1 Cor. 11.26 As often as you eate this bread and drinke this cup yee doe shew the Lords death till hee come That in the most godly while they live on earth sinne doth remaine and that alwayes we have neede of Christs intercession in the heaven with the Father it is cleare from 1 John 1.8 If wee say we have no sinne the truth of God is not in us And Chap. 2. ver 1. But if any man sinne we have an Advocate with the Father Heb. 9.24 Christ is entred into the heaven it selfe now to appeare in the presence of God for us Thus the Scripture describes the condition of the Church on earth but the Doctrine in hand alters much the nature of it for a great part of its time here for of the 2650 yeares which they give to the Church from the comming of Christ to the last judgement they make her to consist for a whole thousand yeares only of godly persons without the mixture of any one wicked and all the millions who are borne in the Church in that large time they are free from their birth to their death of all crosses of all sorrowes of all temptations and as it seemes of all sinne also for that is the time of the restitution of all things when old things are past and all things become new They make them to have neede neither of Word nor Sacraments or any Church-Ordinance neither of Christs Intercession in the heavens with the Father for they have him among them in the earth and they are freed from all sinne and all misery A sixth Argument Scripture makes the time of Christs second comming to be secret and hid not onely to men but to the very Angels and to Christ himselfe as he is man Marke 13.32 But of that day and that
of the Gentiles how much more their fullnesse Ans There is nothing here for the point in hand we grant willingly that the Nation of the Jewes shall be converted to the fayth of Christ and that the fullnesse of the Gentiles is to come in with them to the Christian Church also that the quickning of that dead and rotten member shall be a matter of exceeding joy to the whole Church But That the converted Jewes shall returne to Canaan to build Jerusalem That Christ shall come from the heaven to reigne among them for a thousand yeares there is no such thing intimated in the scriptures in hand Master Burrous fifth place is Acts 3.20 21. He shall send Iesus Christ whom the heavens must receive unto the times of the restitution of all things Ans That these words are to be understood of Christs comming to the last Judgement and not of his comming to any Temporall Kingdome on earth we did before prove His sixth place is 2 Pet. 3.10.13 But the day of the Lord will come as a Theife in the night in the which the heavens shall passe away with a great noyse and the Elements shall melt with fervent heate the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burnt up neverthelesse we according to his promise looke for new heavens and a new earth wherein dwelleth righteousnesse Ans First it would be remembred that our Brethren do adde among many other things this also unto the Tenet of the old Chiliasts That before their golden age the earth and all things therein must be destroyed That the earth wherein they are to reigne that the Beasts Foules Fishes Trees and all other creatures they are to make use of in their thousand yeares are to be of new created all the old creatures in their whole kindes being burnt to ashes and destroyed We say secondly That this place is miserably misinterpreted for all that the Apostle is saying is in answer to the scoffers cavill verse 4. requiring in scorne the performance of the promise of Christs comming not unto this thousand yeares raigne but to the day of Judgement and perdition of ungodly men as the Apostle speaks expressely vers 7. Now all the Chiliasts confesse that this Judgement and that perdition is not till after the thousand yeares so the burning of necessity according to their owne grounds cannot precede but must follow them Thirdly the time whereof the Apostle speakes is called the day of the Lord the usuall discription of Christs comming to Judgement also the day that comes on the world as a theefe in the night which phrase oftentimes in scripture is attributed unto Christs comming unto Judgement but is not true of his comming to the Millenary reigne for the calculation of that time is so well knowne that it is preached and printed to be at such a yeare if not such a mounth or day Also this dissolving of the heavens and Elements with fire is a concomitant of Christ his comming to the last Judgement as is expressely intimated 2 Thes 1.8.9 As for the words whereupon alone they ground their argument the new Earth wherein dwells righteousnesse As if these words could not be true after the last Judgement no righteous man then dwelling upon the earth If they had looked upon the originall they would have seene the weakenesse of their collection for the words runne thus We in whom righteousnesse dwells looke for new Heavens and a new Earth The habitation of righteousnesse referring neither to the heavens not to the earth but to the godly and righteous persons who did waite for the performance of the promise of new heavens and a new earth as our late annotations doe observe And though you would reade them according to our English Translation yet that inhabitation needes not referre to the earth but to the heavens onely as Junius well observes For it is not in qua terra but in quibus coelis and our Brethren if they beleeve Mr. Archer must referre the Pronoune not to both the Substantives but onely to the one for he teaches That during the thousand yeares no righteous soule inhabites the heaven and thereafter that no righteous soule does inhabit either the earth or the heavens wherein now the soules of the godly are all these being turned into hell the habitation of unrighteous men and divells Mr. Burrows seventh place Isa 65.21 And they shall build houses and inhabit them and they shall plant Vinyeards and eate the fruit of them and ver 17. Behold I create new heavens and a new earth c. Hence concluding not onely a new heaven and a new earth for the Millenary reigne but a planting of Vinyeards a building of houses which cannot be after the day of Judgement Ans First Master Burrowes referres this place to the former passage of Peter if therefore Peters new heavens and new earth must be understood of the life to come Isaiahs new heavens and new earth must be understood of the same Secondly It s very new and harsh divinity to say that after the heavens have passed away with a noyse and the earth with all the workes thereof are burnt up that men shall plant Vineyards and build houses upon the new earth Therefore Master Burrows notwithstanding his argument and reference of Isaiah to Peter seemes in that same place to retract and acknowledge that the new heavens and the new earth must be expounded by a Metaphor and import no more then the doing of so glorious things by God for the Church in the latter days as shall manifest his glorious and creating power as if he did make new heavens and a new earth This is farre from the burning of the heavens and earth that now are It is no more then what the Apostle Peter brings from the Prophet Joel Acts. 2.19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above and signes in the earth beneath bloud and fi●● and vapour of smoake the Sunne shall be turned into darknesse and the Moone into bloud All which Peter makes to be performed upon the day of the Pentecost It is no more then that of Haggay 2.6 Yet once it is a little while and I will shake the heavens and the earth and the sea and all the dry land which the Apostle Heb. 12.26 27. makes to be performed at the first comming of Christ Thirdly That the matter of this 65. chap. of Isai v. 16. is to be referred to Christs first comming and the Apostles first pr●●ching unto the Gentiles is cleare by comparing the first verse of this chap. I am found of them that sought me not with the 20 verse of the tenth to the Romanes But Isaiah was very bold and sayth I was found c. Fourthly to expound the Prophets in this fashion were to stumble the Jewes and to give them too great an excuse for their long misbeliefe and too pregnant arguments for to delay their fayth while the Messias come to performe
Ordinances of God It puts in the hand of every man a power to sentence all the Churches of the world It carries to the highest degree of Separation Their supply of the defects of Independency by the power o● the Magistrate was a remedy which they learned from the Brownists but now they have cast it aside denying to the Magistrate all power in matters of Religion The Independents doe advance their fancies to as high a pitch of glory as the Brownists They are the Brownists scholars in many more things beside the Constitution and Government of the Church They give to the Magistrate the Celebration of marriage Mr Milton permits any man to put away his wife upon his meer pleasure without fault and without the cognisance of any Iudge Mr Gorting teaches the wife to put away her husband if he will not follow her in any new Church way which she is pleased to embrace They are against all determinations of the circumstances of worship and therfore all church Directories are against their stomacks The common names of the dayes of the week the months of the year of many Churches and Cities of the Land are as unlawfull to them as to the Brownists All tithes and set maintenance of Ministers they cry down but a voluntary contribution for the maintenance of all their Officers they presse to a high proportion with the evident prejudice of the poore In their solemn worship oft times they make one to pray another to preach a third to prophesie a fourth to direct the Psalm and another to bless the people They make it a divine institution without any word of preface to begin the publike worship with solemne prayer for the King and Church After the Pastors prayer the Doctor reads and expounds In preaching they will bee free to take a Text or not as they find it expedient After Sermon any of the people whom they think able are permitted to prophesie All are permitted to propound in the face of the Congregation what questions upon the Sermon they think meet About the Psalms they have divers strange conceits but the speciall is their new Ordinance of a singing Prophet who in place of the Psalms singeth Hymnes of his own making in the midst of the silent Congregation They grant the lawfulnesse of read prayer in divers cases They will have none to be baptized but the children of their owne members so at one dash they put all England except a very few of their way into the state of Pagans turning them all out of the Christian Church denying to them Sacraments Discipline Church-Officers and all that they would deny to the Pagans of America They open a door to Anabaptism by 3 farther positions 1. They require in all to bee baptised a real holiness above a foederall which in no Infant with any certainty can be found 2. They esteem none for their Baptism and Christian education a member of their Church till they have entred themselvs in their church covenant 3. They call none of their members to any account before their Presbytery for obstinate rejecting of Paedo-baptism although the Brownists doe excommunicate for that sinne They participate with none of the Reformed Churches in the Lords Supper yet they scruple not to communicate with Brownists and Anabaptists Their way of celebrating the Lords Supper is more dead and comfortlesse then any where else They have no Catechising no preparation nor thanksgiving sermōs ordinarily they speak no word of the Sacrament in their Sermons and prayers either before or after They have only a little discourse short prayer in the consecration of both the Elements there after in the action nothing but dumb silence no exhortation no reading no Psalme They require none of their members to come out of their Pewes to the Table And they acknowledge no more use of a Table then the Brownists at Amsterdam who have none at all They teach the expediency of covering the head at the Lords Table They are as much for the popular Government as the Brownists All Discipline must be executed in the presence and with the consent of the whole people all must passe by the expresse suffrage of every one Dissenters not only lose their right of suffrage for the time but are subjected to censure if they continue in their dissent They are much for private meetings for it is in them that they usually frame the members of other mens Congregations into their new mould but the Brownists and they of New-England having felt the bitter fruits of such meetings have relinquished if not discharged them They flatter the Magistrate and slander the Reformed Churches without cause Some of them are for the abolition of all Magistracy All of them are for casting out and keeping out of the Christian Church all Princes all Members of Parliament all Magistrates of the Counties Burroughes that now are and that ever have been and are ever like to be hereafter except a very few These few Magistrates whom they would admit have no security but by the errour or malice of a few to be quickly cast out of the Church without any possibility of remedy When they have put all out of the places of Magistracy yea out of all civill courts who are not of their mind the greatest Magistrates they admit of bee they Kings or Parliaments they subject them all to the free-wil of the promiscuous multitude When Magistrates wil not follow their new erro●●s they have bin very ready to make insurrections to the great hazard of the whole State Many of them deny to the Magistrate any power at all in the matters of Religion Their principles do spoile Princes and Parliaments of their whole ●egislative power they abolish all humane Lawes that are made and hinder any more to be made The Civill Lawes which Mr Cotton permits men to make bind no man any further then his own minde is led by the reason of the Law to obedience They put the yoak of the judiciall Law of Moses on the neck of the Magistrate They give to their Ministers a power to sit in civill Courts to voyce in the Election of the Magistrats and to draw from Scripture Civill Lawes for the government of the State They offer ●o perswade the Magistrate contradictory principles according to their own interest In New England they perswade the Magistrats to kill all Idolaters and Hereticks even whole Cities men women and children But here they deny the Magistrate all power to lay the least restraint upon the g●ossest Idolaters Apostats Blasphemers Seducers or the greatest enemies of Religion No great appearance of their respect to secular learning and Schools Independency much more dangerous then Browni● The Independents prime principles Their Tenet about the qualification of members is the great cause of their separating from all the Reformed Churches though they doe dessemble it In this they goe beyond the Brownists The true state of the question is whether it be necessary
God alone for any tollerable subsistence and their very being albeit we are hopefull the Lord is reserving good things for them who had so much Faith charity and Courage as to venture all for the cause of God and their Brethren the more unkind men have proved unto them The Lord who hath been witnesse to all their intentions actions and sufferings will in his owne time accordingly reward them and will not let them be ashamed of their first hopes and constant desires upon the which himselfe for a long time did shine so evidently from the Heaven as ever upon any enterprise on the Earth Though now that brightnesse be much ecclipsed and overclouded yet we are expecting with passionate desires and confident hopes the dissolution of these clouds and the dispelling of the present darkenesse by the strength of the Beames of his ancient and undeserved kindnesse towards that now suffering and much distressed Nation But insensibly my pen hath runne beyond the bounds of a short Epistle albeit my experience of your Lordships readinesse to dispence with your friends indiscretion makes me secure of my pardon I will detaine your Lordship no longer I lay downe my Booke at your Lordships feet to be given to the world by your Lordships hand If it be received with so much candor and charity by every Reader as I know it is offered it may possibly prove serviceable Thus wishing to your Lordship in these dayes of deepe and dangerous tryalls and too great defection of many constancy and daily increase of affection to all truth Piety Iustice and every Vertue I remaine Your Lordships in all Christian duty to be commanded R. Baylie London Novemb. 19. 1645. The Principall Authors whose Testimonies are cited in the case of the Brownists 1 THe Brownists confession of Faith printed by themselves 160● 2 The Brownists Apo●ogy printed 1604 3 Robert Brownes Life and manners of true Christians printed 1582 4 Henry Barrow his briefe discovery of the false Church 1590 5 Henry Barrow his plaine refutation of Mr Gifford 1590. 6 Francis Iohnsons enquiry and answer to Thomas Whites Discovery of Brownism 1606 7 Francis Iohnsons Christian plea 1617. 8 Iohn Cann his guide to Sion 1638 9 Iohn Cann his necessity of Separation 1638. 10 Apologia Iusta quorundam Christianorum c. per Iohannem Robinsorum 1619 11 Robinsons justification against Bernard reprinted at London 1640 12 Syons royall prerogative 1641. 13 A Light for the Ignorant 1638. The Principall Authors whose Testimonies are cited in the case of the Independents 1. An Apologeticall Narration by Thomas Goodwin c. 1643 2 Iohn Cottons Keyes published by Thom Goodwin and Philip Nye 1644. 3 Iohn Cottons way of the Churches in New-England 1645. 4 Iohn Cottons Sermons upon the seven Vialls 1642. 5 Iohn Cottons Catechisme or the Doctrine of the Church 1644. 6 An Answer to thirty two Questions by the Elders of the Churches in New-England published by Mr. Peters 1643. 7 An Apology of the Churches in New-England for Church-Covenant or a discourse touching Church-Covenant 1643. 8 A glimpse of Syons glory in a Sermon at a generall Fast-day in Holland by T. G. printed at London 1641. 9 Ieremy Burrowes Sermons upon Hosea 1644. 10 The personall raigne of Christ by Io Archer Pastor of the Church at Arnheim 164● 11 Io Archers comfort for Beleevers 1645. 12 Mr. Burtons vindication of the Independent Churches 1645. 13 Iohn Goodwins Theo-machia 1644. 14 A short story of the rise reigne and ruine c. published with Mr. Welds large Preface 1644. 15 Mr Welds answer to Rathbans narration 1644. 16 Mr Cottons Letter to Mr. Williams 1643. 17 The Anatomist anatomised by Mr Simson 1644. We cite also for some matters of fact to which no satisfactory Answer hath been made hitherto by the Parties 1 Mr Edwards Antapologie 1644. 2 Mr Williams examination of Cottons Letter 1644. 3 Mr Williams bloody Tenet 1644. 4 Plaine-dealing or Newes from New-England by Thomas Lechford 1642. 5 The Anatomy of Independency by a Learned Minister of Holland 1644. 6 Doctor Bastwicks Postscript 1645. 7 Mr. Prinns fresh discovery 1645. The CONTENTS of the following Treatise The Preface THe chiefe and first meane to extinguish the flames of our warre is the waters of our heart poured out in prayers to God pag. 1 Reformation after mourning is the second step to a solid peace p. 2 The corruption of the Church is the fountaine of our present misery ibid. The State cannot be setled till the Church be first reformed 3 Every man would help what hee can to recover the languishing Church from her desperate disease ibid. The offer of a strange and easie remedy of a Looking-glasse 4 The malignity of Errour ibid. The Authors intention is to set down in a Table for the cleare view of all the errours which trouble us ibid. And that with Iustice and Love toward all persons 5 The partition of the ensuing Treatise 6 Episcopacy was the mother of all our present Sects ibid. Presbytery will be their grave 7 The Presbyteriall way of proceeding ibid. What England rationally may expect from Presbyteries and Synods 8 Chap. 1. The originall and progresse of the Brownists Satan is the great enemy of the Churches Reformation 9 His chiefe instruments alwayes have been professed friends to Religion ibid. Reformation at the begining did run with one impetuous current ibid. What was its first stop 10 The fountaine of Protestant discord ibid. The unhappy principle of the Lutherans ibid. And the more unhappy principle of the Anabaptists 11 Somewhat of both these wayes was entertained in England ibid. The originall of the English Bishops and Ceremonies ibid. The originall of the Separatists 12 Brownism is a daughter of Anabaptism 13 Bolton the first known Separatist in England hanged himselfe ibid. Brown the second leader of that way recanted his schism and to his death was a very scandalous person ibid. The humour of Barrow the third master of this Sect 14 The strange carriage of Iohnson and Ainsworth the next two leaders of the Brownists ibid. The horrible wayes of Smith their sixth master 15 The fearfull end of Smith his wandrings 16 Robinson the last grave and learned Doctor of the Brownists did in the end undermine his party 17 Robinson the authour of Independency ibid. Chap. 2. The Doctrine of the Brownists They hold that all Churches in the world but their own are so polluted that they must be separate from 20 Their injurious slanders of the Church of England ibid. Yet sometimes they say that communion maybe kept with her both in preaching and prayer ibid. Their like dealing with all the other Reformed 21 Their flattering of forraign Churches is not to be regarded ibid. The matter of a Church they make to be reall Saints only 22 Their unreasonable strictnesse in this one point is the great cause of their Schism ibid. They place the forme of their Church in an expresse Covenant 23 Seven may make a perfect Church