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A19428 Father Cotton a Iesuite, the Kings confessour, his two and thirtie demands, to the ministers of France with the answeres added at the end of euerie demand. Also threescore and foure demands proposed to Father Cotton, by way of counter-change. By Peter Moulin, minister of the word of God in the church of Paris. Printed according to the French copie, printed in Paris. Also a new late chalenge, by a learned diuine, to all Papists, in 24. other Popish articles.; Trente-deux demandes proposées par le P. Cotton. English Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; Coton, Pierre, 1564-1626.; Barnes, John, fl. 1600-1621. 1614 (1614) STC 5857; ESTC S116356 39,158 65

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