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B23579 A Reply of two of the brethren to A. S. wherein you have observations on his considerations, annotations, &c. upon the apologeticall narration : with a plea for libertie of conscience for the apologists church way, against the cavils of the said A. S., formerly called M. S. to A. S. : humbly submitted to the judgements of all rationall and moderate men in the world : with a short survey of W. R. his Grave confutation of the separation, and some modest and innocent touches on the letter from Zeland and Mr. Parker's from New-England. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665.; Steuart, Adam. Some observations and annotations upon the Apologetical narration. Selections.; Parker, Thomas, 1595-1677. 1644 (1644) Wing G1198 108,381 124

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different_a sense_n which_o ausonius_n say_v of_o none_o of_o the_o worst_a emperor_n in_o his_o epitaph_n etc._n marcus_n antonius_n auson_n de_fw-fr duodecim_fw-la caesaribus_fw-la etc._n etc._n hoc_fw-la solo_fw-la patriae_fw-la quòd_fw-la genuit_fw-la nocuit_fw-la all_o the_o harm_n it_o have_v do_v to_o the_o world_n or_o its_o country_n only_o be_v this_o it_o have_v beget_v and_o that_o not_o in_o its_o own_o likeness_n child_n of_o sweet_a sober_a and_o temperate_a spirit_n but_o rough_a bluster_a borean_a observation_n and_o annotation_n 29._o aelian_a lib._n 1._o cap._n 29._o ghastly_a anatomy_n with_o some_o such_o other_o heterogeneal_a fiery_a impression_n aelian_a make_n report_v of_o a_o strange_a prodigy_n once_o happen_v in_o a_o grecian_a island_n viz._n that_o a_o sheep_n bring_v forth_o a_o lion_n this_o lion_n bring_v forth_o with_o this_o remarkable_a and_o eminent_a contrariety_n to_o the_o course_n of_o nature_n presage_v as_o the_o same_o author_n relate_v
his_o own_o maxim_n elsewhere_o be_v this_o that_o par_n in_o parem_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la imperium_fw-la and_o that_o where_o there_o be_v no_o superior_a or_o inferior_a there_o can_v be_v no_o obedience_n or_o disobedience_n non_fw-la huc_fw-la non_fw-la illuc_fw-la exemplo_fw-la nubis_fw-la aquosae_fw-la 2._o if_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n have_v power_n to_o command_v the_o church_n to_o revise_v sect._n 7_o her_o judgement_n when_o she_o judge_v any_o thing_n amiss_o sure_o he_o have_v power_n to_o examine_v and_o judge_v of_o her_o proceed_n whether_o they_o be_v regular_a equal_a and_o just_a or_o no_o except_o you_o will_v say_v that_o he_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o your_o it_o regular_a and_o undue_a proceed_n in_o your_o presbytery_n by_o immediate_a revelation_n suppose_v either_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o what_o reason_n have_v you_o to_o deny_v he_o part_n and_o fellowship_n with_o you_o in_o that_o directive_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n which_o you_o engross_v and_o appropriate_v to_o yourselves_o as_o we_o have_v former_o see_v 3._o if_o so_o than_o your_o presbyterial_a assembly_n or_o judge_v church_n may_v determine_v and_o judge_v amiss_o and_o if_o so_o 1._o how_o dare_v you_o compel_v or_o make_v the_o people_n under_o your_o government_n to_o swear_v obedience_n or_o subjection_n unto_o your_o order_n which_o yet_o by_o your_o own_o confession_n pag._n 42_o ordinary_o you_o do_v 2._o why_o be_v you_o not_o satisfy_v with_o that_o subjection_n to_o your_o presbyterial_a decision_n which_o plead_v no_o exemption_n but_o only_o in_o the_o case_n of_o non-satisfaction_n about_o the_o lawfulness_n or_o truth_n of_o they_o you_o give_v man_n a_o good_a foundation_n a_o liberty_n to_o believe_v that_o you_o may_v err_v but_o you_o will_v not_o suffer_v they_o to_o build_v upon_o it_o to_o refuse_v you_o when_o they_o think_v in_o their_o soul_n and_o conscience_n that_o that_o you_o do_v err_v they_o that_o will_v separate_v between_o such_o premise_n and_o such_o conclusion_n will_v hardly_o make_v good_a christian_n themselves_o or_o suffer_v other_o so_o to_o be_v and_o if_o you_o be_v but_o ingenuous_o willing_a to_o go_v along_o with_o this_o your_o own_o principle_n that_o you_o may_v err_v as_o far_o as_o it_o will_v glad_o lead_v you_o i_o think_v i_o dare_v undertake_v that_o the_o apologist_n and_o you_o shall_v compromise_n before_o to_o morrow_n next_o 4._o and_o last_o if_o party_n may_v have_v cause_n to_o be_v offend_v and_o not_o sect._n 8_o only_o pretend_v to_o be_v offend_v as_o a._n s._n will_v mind_v it_o with_o the_o church_n as_o out_o of_o all_o question_n they_o may_v if_o the_o church_n may_v judge_v amiss_o then_o have_v they_o power_n to_o judge_v of_o their_o action_n as_o well_o as_o they_o of_o they_o no_o man_n be_v justifiable_a in_o his_o complaint_n or_o offence_n take_v but_o he_o that_o have_v a_o power_n to_o examine_v and_o judge_v of_o that_o which_o give_v the_o cause_n or_o minister_v the_o occasion_n of_o the_o offence_n and_o if_o a_o single_a party_n which_o be_v no_o presbyter_n or_o prophet_n in_o your_o sense_n have_v a_o lawful_a power_n to_o examine_v and_o judge_v of_o the_o act_n and_o order_n of_o a_o presbyterial_a or_o prophetical_a assembly_n and_o may_v possible_o by_o mean_n of_o such_o a_o examination_n take_v they_o tardy_a do_v not_o so_o far_o magnify_v the_o spirit_n of_o your_o prophet_n against_o the_o spirit_n of_o our_o saint_n as_o to_o think_v these_o good_a for_o nothing_o but_o to_o swear_v homage_n and_o vassalage_n unto_o they_o but_o a._n s._n sure_o please_v himself_o high_o with_o a_o parcel_n of_o distinction_n sect._n 9_o which_o he_o present_v we_o within_o the_o prementioned_a description_n and_o hope_n perhaps_o to_o make_v a_o atonement_n with_o they_o for_o his_o confusion_n otherwise_o first_o he_o distinguish_v of_o that_o executive_a coercive_a power_n wherewith_o he_o invest_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o not_o be_v in_o or_o intrinsical_v unto_o the_o church_n but_o external_a and_o about_o the_o church_n second_o he_o distinguish_v the_o subject_a capable_a of_o this_o power_n the_o civil_a magistrate_n into_o true_o christian_n and_o not_o true_o christian_n three_o upon_o this_o distinction_n he_o build_v a_o three_o distinction_n concern_v the_o manner_n of_o the_o competency_n of_o this_o power_n to_o the_o one_o kind_n of_o subject_n and_o the_o other_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o power_n or_o authority_n belong_v actual_o and_o in_o effect_n in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la &_o jure_v in_o re_fw-la to_o true_a christian_a magistrate_n but_o to_o other_o potential_o in_o actu_fw-la signato_fw-la and_o jure_v in_o rem_fw-la only_o till_o they_o become_v true_a christian_n the_o man_n you_o see_v have_v much_o ado_n to_o find_v or_o come_v at_o that_o power_n sect._n 10_o wherewith_o he_o will_v so_o fain_o gratify_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n he_o adjure_v three_o unclean_a spirit_n of_o distinction_n to_o tell_v he_o what_o and_o where_o it_o be_v and_o yet_o they_o do_v but_o peep_v and_o matter_n in_o their_o answer_n and_o make_v no_o man_n the_o wise_a by_o it_o here_o he_o seek_v for_o the_o coercive_a power_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n in_o the_o same_o black_a sea_n of_o darkness_n and_o confusion_n wherein_o he_o seek_v and_o will_v make_v the_o world_n believe_v he_o find_v the_o presbyterian_a government_n afterward_o but_o if_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o be_v close_v up_o in_o such_o a_o ammunition_n of_o rock_n of_o distinction_n as_o a._n s._n represent_v they_o in_o his_o story_n certain_o they_o be_v inaccessible_a to_o the_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n of_o person_n of_o mean_a capacity_n and_o much_o more_o inaccessible_a to_o the_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n of_o more_o understanding_n and_o consider_v man_n the_o very_a darkness_n itself_o of_o the_o distinction_n which_o he_o be_v necessitate_v to_o use_v to_o make_v his_o way_n to_o come_v at_o the_o one_o and_o at_o the_o other_o be_v a_o light_n sufficient_a to_o discover_v that_o neither_o the_o one_o nor_o the_o other_o be_v any_o where_o to_o be_v find_v within_o the_o territory_n either_o of_o reason_n or_o of_o truth_n but_o let_v we_o see_v the_o distinction_n play_v a_o little_a before_o we_o for_o their_o master_n credit_n for_o the_o first_o the_o magistrate_n power_n say_v he_o viz._n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n for_o so_o he_o must_v necessary_o be_v understand_v by_o the_o antithesis_fw-la in_o the_o former_a clause_n or_o member_n of_o this_o distinction_n where_o he_o deny_v a_o directive_n power_n unto_o he_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n be_v not_o in_o or_o intrinsical_v to_o the_o church_n but_o extrinsecall_v and_o about_o the_o church_n be_v it_o in_o i._o intrinsical_v to_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o but_o extrinsecall_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o church_n so_o then_o it_o seem_v a._n s._n his_o presbyterial_a church_n be_v somewhat_o more_o inward_a intimate_a and_o intrinsical_v than_o the_o religion_n of_o this_o church_n otherwise_o how_o shall_v the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n penetrate_v into_o the_o religion_n thereof_o and_o yet_o not_o reach_v into_o but_o only_o unto_o the_o church_n itself_o by_o this_o distinction_n he_o have_v utter_o disgrace_v his_o presbyterial_a government_n by_o make_v the_o church_n under_o it_o more_o internal_a and_o inward_a than_o the_o religion_n that_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o they_o if_o the_o apologist_n have_v but_o whisper_v one_o tittle_n of_o such_o a_o say_n though_o at_o never_o such_o a_o distance_n it_o have_v be_v enough_o to_o have_v produce_v seven_o reason_n more_o at_o least_o against_o their_o toleration_n then_o be_v yet_o levy_v or_o bring_v forth_o into_o the_o world_n but_o 2_o though_o you_o seem_v to_o deal_v very_o bountiful_o with_o the_o magistrate_n sect._n 11_o in_o give_v he_o a_o power_n extrinsecall_v and_o about_o the_o church_n and_o to_o content_v yourself_o and_o your_o compresbyter_n with_o a_o intrinsical_a power_n only_o yet_o by_o somewhat_o that_o have_v be_v late_o print_v it_o appear_v that_o you_o mean_v to_o eat_v at_o the_o same_o table_n with_o he_o which_o you_o pretend_v to_o spread_v for_o he_o alone_o for_o have_v not_o the_o press_n very_o late_o be_v deliver_v of_o this_o piece_n of_o presbytery_n that_o the_o classical_a presbytery_n have_v 23._o reformation_n clear_v p._n 23._o the_o authoritative_a power_n of_o citation_n just_a as_o the_o bishop_n have_v and_o be_v not_o such_o a_o power_n external_a and_o which_o be_v not_o in_o but_o about_o the_o church_n for_o if_o a_o classis_fw-la shall_v cite_v or_o excommunicate_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n against_o the_o judgement_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o elder_n of_o that_o church_n let_v all_o the_o world_n
judge_n whether_o that_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o external_a power_n without_o the_o church_n if_o it_o be_v reply_v no_o because_o that_o church_n do_v implicit_o consent_v in_o yield_v their_o elder_n for_o member_n of_o that_o presbytery_n we_o reply_v that_o if_o either_o your_o public_a law_n constrain_v that_o church_n upon_o penalty_n eth._n invitum_fw-la dicitur_fw-la quod_fw-la quis_fw-la vel_fw-la coactus_fw-la vel_fw-la per_fw-la ignorantiam_fw-la admittit_fw-la arist_n eth._n l._n 3._o c._n 1._o kecker_n praecog_n sy_v eth._n against_o their_o light_n to_o suffer_v their_o elder_n to_o sit_v in_o the_o classical_a presbytery_n than_o that_o church_n do_v not_o free_o consent_v or_o if_o that_o church_n without_o constraint_n do_v consent_n for_o want_v of_o light_n as_o it_o must_v be_v suppose_v if_o a_o classis_fw-la upon_o debate_n be_v find_v to_o be_v beside_o the_o word_n this_o ignorant_a act_n of_o that_o church_n be_v a_o unwilling_a or_o involuntary_a act_n and_o so_o no_o free_a consent_n and_o so_o the_o classis_fw-la according_a to_o a._n s._n his_o distinction_n be_v like_o a_o magistrate_n which_o be_v a_o bishop_n without_o and_o about_o that_o church_n but_o good_a a._n s._n we_o know_v it_o be_v a_o easy_a matter_n to_o distinguish_v the_o magistrate_n sect._n 12_o into_o such_o a_o executive_a coercitive_a external_a power_n as_o you_o speak_v of_o but_o we_o will_v fain_o see_v you_o demonstrate_v he_o into_o it_o and_o then_o a._n s._n and_o m._n s._n shall_v be_v no_o more_o two_o but_o one_o s._n we_o know_v not_o how_o to_o transform_v distinction_n into_o demonstration_n his_o second_o distinction_n be_v of_o the_o subject_a of_o this_o power_n the_o magistrate_n who_o he_o make_v twofold_a true_o christian_a and_o not_o true_o christian_n but_o 1._o i_o will_v fain_o know_v by_o what_o touchstone_n a._n s._n will_v try_v his_o gold_n in_o this_o case_n i_o mean_v judge_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n in_o a_o magistrate_n it_o appear_v from_o page_n 50._o of_o his_o discourse_n that_o he_o have_v no_o mind_n to_o grant_v his_o truth_n of_o christianity_n unto_o a_o magistrate_n that_o be_v either_o lutheran_n anabaptist_n socinian_n or_o papist_n any_o of_o these_o misprision_n in_o christianity_n be_v as_o sufficient_a in_o a._n s._n his_o judgement_n as_o in_o we_o to_o keep_v the_o sword_n of_o that_o power_n we_o speak_v of_o out_o of_o the_o magistrate_n hand_n and_o as_o for_o a_o magistrate_n who_o judgement_n shall_v be_v infect_v perfect_v reason_n and_o truth_n will_v say_v with_o apologisme_n or_o the_o great_a hatred_n of_o his_o soul_n independency_n i_o make_v no_o question_n but_o he_o in_o the_o comic_a term_n shall_v be_v exclusissimus_fw-la from_o this_o capacity_n or_o right_n above_o all_o the_o rest_n but_o let_v we_o go_v on_o with_o the_o man_n in_o the_o term_n of_o his_o own_o address_n to_o sect._n 13_o the_o apologist_n in_o the_o same_o place_n if_o he_o say_v that_o by_o a_o magistrate_n true_o christian_n he_o understand_v a_o orthodox_n magistrate_n what_o if_o he_o have_v one_o or_o two_o error_n will_v he_o yet_o permit_v he_o to_o be_v orthodox_n and_o true_o christian_a or_o not_o till_o a._n s._n here_o specify_v sermon_n generales_fw-la non_fw-la movent_fw-la his_fw-la own_o rule_n for_o myself_o until_o i_o shall_v be_v otherwise_o inform_v by_o himself_o i_o shall_v make_v use_n of_o my_o reason_n to_o believe_v that_o by_o a_o magistrate_n true_o christian_n a._n s._n only_a mean●_n a_o magistrate_n who_o in_o his_o judgement_n be_v presbyterial_a and_o that_o this_o qualification_n of_o presbyterialisme_n and_o truth_n of_o christianity_n in_o a_o magistrate_n be_v against_o all_o contradiction_n and_o counter-poysings_a whatsoever_o termini_fw-la aequipollentes_fw-la in_o his_o logic_n and_o if_o this_o be_v his_o meaning_n the_o king_n to_o be_v sure_a have_v none_o of_o his_o power_n as_o yet_o in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la and_o jure_v in_o re_fw-la nor_o have_v the_o parliament_n at_o least_o for_o aught_o a._n s._n or_o the_o kingdom_n know_v any_o whit_n more_o of_o it_o then_o the_o king_n and_o whatsoever_o it_o have_v do_v hitherto_o by_o any_o executive_a coercive_a external_a power_n about_o the_o church_n or_o church-affair_n in_o which_o kind_n it_o have_v do_v very_o much_o depend_v as_o touch_v the_o validity_n and_o justifiableness_n of_o it_o upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o it_o presbyterialize_v whence_o it_o follow_v that_o he_o that_o can_v or_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o the_o parliament_n be_v of_o a_o classic_a inclination_n can_v with_o the_o leave_n of_o a._n s._n his_o distinction_n judge_v they_o to_o have_v do_v lawful_o or_o warrantable_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o have_v do_v hitherto_o about_o or_o for_o the_o church_n the_o truth_n be_v that_o till_o a._n s._n will_v please_v to_o define_v what_o manner_n of_o magistrate_n he_o must_v be_v that_o shall_v pass_v the_o test_n of_o his_o distinction_n for_o true_o christian_a we_o be_v constrain_v to_o suspend_v our_o bounty_n in_o confer_v that_o executive_a coercive_a external_a power_n about_o the_o church_n upon_o any_o man_n nor_o do_v i_o make_v much_o question_n but_o that_o we_o shall_v have_v twenty_o distinction_n more_o before_o we_o shall_v obtain_v that_o definition_n but_o of_o all_o the_o three_o distinction_n here_o upon_o the_o stage_n the_o best_a dancer_n sect._n 14_o be_v yet_o behind_o this_o power_n or_o authority_n say_v he_o belong_v actual_o and_o in_o effect_n in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la &_o jure_v in_o re_fw-la it_o be_v very_o long_a i_o think_v ere_o we_o hear_v to_o who_o it_o belong_v to_o true_a christian_a magistrate_n but_o to_o other_o potential_o in_o actu_fw-la signato_fw-la &_o jure_v in_o rem_fw-la only_o until_o they_o become_v true_o christian_n 1._o though_o i_o have_v many_o time_n hear_v of_o the_o distinction_n in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la &_o in_o actu_fw-la signato_fw-la yet_o i_o never_o hear_v of_o any_o thing_n belong_v to_o a_o person_n in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la but_o that_o belong_v to_o he_o and_o that_o per_fw-la prius_fw-la in_fw-la actu_fw-la signato_fw-la he_o to_o who_o the_o principle_n or_o power_n of_o act_v do_v not_o belong_v can_v stand_v engage_v for_o the_o exercise_n or_o act_n of_o such_o a_o power_n 2._o my_o soul_n belong_v for_o the_o summer_n fruit_n of_o a_o good_a reason_n from_o a._n s._n sect._n 15_o why_o any_o power_n about_o the_o church_n and_o for_o the_o church_n shall_v not_o belong_v actual_o and_o in_o effect_n in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la &_o jure_v in_o re_fw-la and_o with_o as_o many_o other_o proper_a unproper_a necessary_a unnecessary_a sober_a ridiculous_a expression_n as_o he_o please_v as_o well_o to_o a_o magistrate_n not_o yet_o true_o christian_n as_o to_o he_o that_o be_v such_o have_v not_o a_o heathen_a or_o heterodox_n magistrate_n a_o lawfulness_n of_o power_n to_o do_v present_o this_o day_n this_o hour_n to_o morrow_n and_o so_o forth_o toties_fw-la quoties_fw-la as_o much_o good_a to_o and_o for_o the_o church_n or_o church_n of_o christ_n within_o his_o jurisdiction_n or_o dominion_n as_o he_o can_v have_v if_o he_o be_v true_o christian_n do_v act_n of_o justice_n bounty_n grace_n towards_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n any_o whit_n more_o defile_v a_o magistrate_n how_o far_o from_o true_o christian_n soever_o then_o act_v of_o the_o same_o nature_n perform_v unto_o his_o other_o subject_n the_o king_n and_o those_o that_o be_v in_o authority_n in_o paul_n day_n be_v general_o all_o the_o king_n without_o exception_n far_o from_o be_v true_o christian_n and_o yet_o be_v it_o not_o lawful_a for_o they_o to_o interpose_v with_o their_o authority_n or_o power_n that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o their_o dominion_n may_v lead_v a_o quiet_a and_o peaceable_a life_n in_o all_o godliness_n and_o honesty_n if_o not_o then_o be_v that_o exhortation_n of_o he_o 1_o tim._n 2._o 2._o to_o be_v lay_v up_o in_o lavender_n for_o some_o hundred_o of_o year_n after_o it_o be_v give_v or_o else_o the_o benefit_n and_o blessing_n the_o obtain_n whereof_o by_o prayer_n be_v make_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o exhortation_n must_v have_v be_v make_v over_o in_o the_o intention_n of_o those_o that_o have_v so_o pray_v unto_o their_o posterity_n after_o many_o generation_n a._n s._n may_v choose_v which_o of_o the_o two_o he_o will_v believe_v for_o my_o part_n i_o shall_v not_o be_v his_o corrival_n in_o either_o you_o have_v hear_v a._n s._n his_o distinction_n for_o a_o coercive_a power_n about_o the_o church_n in_o a_o civil_a magistrate_n demonstrationes_fw-la autem_fw-la ubi_fw-la but_o where_o be_v his_o proof_n quas_fw-la non_fw-la invenio_fw-la usquam_fw-la esse_fw-la puto_fw-la nusquam_fw-la what_o i_o find_v not_o any_o where_n i_o believe_v to_o be_v no_o where_o i_o have_v search_v and_o that_o
assumption_n i_o demonstrate_v by_o this_o reason_n because_o those_o practice_n and_o opinion_n in_o religion_n which_o the_o magistrate_n be_v bear_v in_o hand_n by_o those_o with_o who_o eye_n he_o see_v in_o such_o case_n be_v schismatical_a erroneous_a and_o contrary_a unto_o god_n may_v very_o possible_o be_v the_o way_n of_o god_n and_o truth_n of_o god_n such_o man_n judgement_n of_o they_o notwithstanding_o for_o first_o the_o judgement_n of_o these_o man_n be_v not_o apostolical_a or_o infallible_a a._n s._n himself_o who_o make_v his_o demand_n for_o presbyterian_a sovereignty_n as_o high_a as_o another_o yet_o dare_v not_o lay_v claim_n to_o this_o crown_n therefore_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o they_o to_o be_v in_o a_o misprision_n about_o some_o question_n or_o controversall_a point_n in_o religion_n second_o frequent_a experience_n show_v that_o a_o minor_a part_n yea_o a_o party_n for_o number_v inconsiderable_a of_o godly_a person_n in_o a_o church_n or_o state_n may_v have_v the_o mind_n of_o god_n and_o of_o christ_n among_o they_o in_o some_o particular_n before_o the_o generality_n or_o major_a part_n of_o this_o church_n come_v to_o be_v enlighten_v or_o interest_v in_o it_o for_o a_o proof_n whereof_o ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la we_o need_v go_v no_o further_o then_o to_o that_o party_n of_o godly_a person_n in_o the_o land_n who_o stand_v up_o in_o queen_n elizabeth_n &_o king_n james_n his_o day_n for_o presbyterial_a government_n when_o as_o the_o far_o great_a part_n both_o of_o magistrate_n and_o minister_n in_o the_o kingdom_n be_v in_o their_o judgement_n opposite_a hereunto_o and_o whole_o episcopal_a so_o that_o have_v that_o queen_n or_o king_n or_o any_o parliament_n under_o they_o go_v about_o to_o suppress_v that_o party_n which_o yet_o be_v then_o look_v upon_o as_o schismatical_a factious_a and_o erroneous_a they_o have_v according_a to_o a._n s._n his_o judgement_n touch_v the_o judgement_n of_o those_o man_n fight_v against_o god_n and_o seek_v to_o pluck_v up_o that_o which_o he_o have_v plant_v yea_o three_o and_o last_o it_o seldom_o or_o never_o fall_v out_o that_o any_o truth_n which_o have_v for_o a_o long_a time_n be_v under_o hatch_n and_o unknown_a to_o the_o generality_n of_o minister_n and_o other_o learned_a man_n in_o a_o church_n or_o state_n have_v be_v at_o the_o first_o and_o on_o the_o sudden_a discover_v by_o god_n either_o unto_o the_o generality_n or_o major_a part_n of_o they_o but_o unto_o some_o few_o only_a yea_o and_o sometime_o but_o unto_o one_o for_o a_o season_n by_o and_o from_o who_o he_o be_v please_v to_o propagate_v the_o light_n and_o knowledge_n of_o it_o unto_o more_o afterward_o if_o then_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v rise_v up_o to_o suppress_v this_o truth_n or_o those_o that_o hold_v it_o forth_o unto_o the_o world_n because_o it_o have_v few_o friend_n and_o many_o enemy_n among_o the_o master_n in_o his_o israel_n and_o be_v general_o look_v upon_o as_o a_o schismatical_a and_o erroneous_a opinion_n shall_v he_o not_o in_o gamaliel_n sense_n fight_v against_o god_n the_o householder_n in_o the_o parable_n forbid_v the_o pluck_n up_o of_o the_o tare_n out_o of_o his_o field_n for_o fear_v of_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n with_o they_o matth._n 13._o 29._o 7._o that_o power_n which_o be_v never_o attribute_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n sect._n 34_o by_o any_o christian_n but_o only_o by_o those_o that_o have_v very_o good_a assurance_n that_o it_o shall_v be_v use_v for_o they_o and_o on_o their_o side_n be_v not_o like_a to_o be_v a_o power_n appertain_v to_o they_o by_o divine_a right_n or_o confer_v upon_o they_o by_o god_n the_o reason_n of_o this_o proposition_n be_v because_o it_o be_v no_o way_n credible_a that_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o so_o many_o age_n as_o be_v bygone_a no_o one_o man_n of_o that_o conscientious_a generation_n of_o saint_n which_o have_v be_v wont_a so_o frequent_o to_o deny_v itself_o even_o unto_o death_n shall_v acknowledge_v such_o a_o power_n in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o do_v by_o divine_a right_n belong_v unto_o he_o only_o because_o such_o a_o acknowledgement_n be_v like_a to_o make_v against_o himself_o therefore_o i_o assume_v but_o that_o coercive_a power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n for_o the_o suppress_n of_o error_n schism_n heresy_n etc._n etc._n be_v never_o attribute_v to_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n by_o any_o christian_a but_o only_o by_o those_o that_o etc._n see_v for_o the_o further_a proof_n of_o the_o minor_a proposition_n mr_n io._n robinson_n essay_n p._n 49._o 50_o etc._n etc._n be_v very_o confident_a that_o it_o will_v be_v use_v for_o their_o turn_n and_o to_o effect_v their_o desire_n ergo_fw-la a._n s._n himself_o be_v wary_a and_o tender_a above_o measure_n in_o confer_v it_o upon_o he_o distinguish_v once_o and_o again_o and_o the_o three_o time_n also_o upon_o it_o as_o we_o hear_v before_o he_o dare_v let_v he_o have_v it_o yea_o and_o in_o the_o close_a do_v as_o much_o in_o effect_n as_o tell_v he_o that_o except_o he_o be_v presbyterian_a right_n down_o and_o will_v accommodate_v he_o and_o his_o party_n with_o it_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o claim_v it_o 8._o that_o power_n which_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o direct_o tend_v to_o prevent_v sect._n 35_o hinder_v or_o suppress_v the_o growth_n and_o increase_n of_o the_o light_n of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n and_o jesus_n christ_n in_o a_o church_n or_o state_n and_o the_o reformation_n of_o such_o thing_n whether_o in_o doctrine_n or_o discipline_n as_o be_v unwarrantable_a therein_o be_v not_o questionless_a of_o any_o divine_a right_n or_o institution_n if_o a._n s._n deny_v this_o proposition_n at_o the_o peril_n of_o his_o modesty_n and_o reputation_n be_v it_o so_o then_o i_o assume_v but_o such_o a_o power_n in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o we_o speak_v of_o direct_o tend_v to_o all_o the_o mischief_n and_o inconvenience_n mention_v ergo_fw-la the_o evidence_n of_o the_o assumption_n be_v this_o when_o man_n be_v obnoxious_a to_o the_o stroke_n of_o the_o civil_a power_n and_o in_o danger_n of_o suffer_v deep_o from_o the_o magistrate_n for_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o shall_v hold_v or_o practice_v in_o religion_n contrary_a unto_o he_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v a_o great_a tentation_n and_o discouragement_n upon_o they_o from_o search_v and_o ●nquiring_v into_o the_o scripture_n after_o a_o more_o exact_a knowledge_n of_o the_o good_a and_o holy_a and_o perfect_a will_n of_o god_n in_o thing_n because_o in_o case_n he_o shall_v discover_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o what_o the_o magistrate_n profess_v he_o must_v run_v the_o hazard_n either_o of_o withhold_a the_o truth_n he_o so_o discover_v in_o unrighteousness_n and_o so_o of_o have_v both_o god_n and_o his_o own_o conscience_n his_o enemy_n or_o else_o of_o have_v his_o bone_n break_v by_o the_o iron_n rod_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n for_o make_v profession_n of_o any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o that_o which_o he_o profess_v 9_o that_o power_n which_o in_o the_o use_n of_o it_o plain_o and_o palpable_o tend_v to_o sect._n 36_o the_o gratification_n of_o satan_n carnal_a and_o profane_a man_n be_v not_o certain_o derive_v from_o god_n to_o prove_v this_o proposition_n will_v be_v but_o the_o light_n up_o of_o a_o torch_n to_o see_v the_o sun_n i_o assume_v but_o that_o power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n to_o crush_v schism_n heresy_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v by_o a._n s._n and_o many_o other_o pin_v upon_o the_o magistrate_n sleeve_n be_v a_o power_n of_o this_o tendency_n and_o importance_n in_o the_o use_n of_o it_o ergo._n this_o latter_a proposition_n shine_v clear_a enough_o with_o this_o light_n first_o a_o very_a great_a part_n if_o not_o far_o the_o great_a of_o those_o that_o be_v like_a to_o suffer_v by_o it_o be_v man_n of_o good_a conscience_n and_o true_o fear_v god_n this_o be_v manifest_a in_o the_o apologist_n and_o man_n of_o their_o judgement_n who_o a._n s._n himself_o over_z and_o over_o though_o condemn_v himself_o toties_fw-la quoties_fw-la acknowledge_v for_o very_o pious_a and_o godly_a man_n nor_o be_v it_o like_v that_o ordinary_o man_n of_o loose_a or_o no_o conscience_n shall_v delight_v to_o swim_v against_o the_o stream_n either_o of_o greatness_n or_o plurality_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n now_o than_o it_o can_v but_o be_v conceive_v to_o be_v matter_n of_o solemn_a gratification_n to_o satan_n who_o be_v a_o murderer_n and_o blood●_n enemy_n to_o the_o saint_n to_o see_v they_o disgrace_v crush_a tread_a and_o trample_v upon_o especial_o by_o those_o who_o god_n have_v appoint_v to_o be_v their_o protector_n and_o most_o of_o all_o that_o this_o grievous_a measure_n shall_v be_v measure_v out_o unto_o they_o for_o the_o goodness_n of_o their_o conscience_n towards_o god_n second_o
or_o power_n in_o any_o kind_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v to_o institute_v or_o set_v up_o any_o power_n in_o the_o church_n but_o by_o express_a order_n and_o warrant_v from_o god_n in_o the_o scripture_n it_o be_v only_o in_o god_n say_v he_o pag._n 48._o who_o be_v a_o king_n in_o this_o spiritual_a kingdom_n a_o master_n in_o this_o house_n a_o father_n in_o this_o family_n who_o can_v give_v power_n therein_o unto_o any_o man_n we_o dare_v not_o be_v so_o bold_a etc._n etc._n and_o pag._n 61._o verity_n consist_v not_o in_o the_o middle_n of_o this_o or_o that_o which_o you_o imagine_v but_o in_o a_o conformity_n of_o our_o conception_n with_o their_o object_n and_o due_a measure_n which_o in_o this_o matter_n be_v only_a god_n word_n reveal_v in_o the_o scripture_n and_o according_a to_o this_o rule_n i_o take_v presbyterian_a government_n rather_o etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o one_o more_o page_z 34._o combine_a presbytery_n qua_fw-la tota_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la qua_fw-la 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