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the_o most_o etc._n etc._n to_o this_o paragraph_n i_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v but_o that_o it_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o many_o very_a judicious_a and_o godly_a divine_n that_o a_o pastor_n be_v bind_v to_o stay_v with_o his_o flock_n so_o long_o as_o he_o be_v not_o press_v to_o be_v a_o actor_n in_o any_o thing_n against_o his_o conscience_n which_o many_o good_a man_n have_v do_v in_o this_o kingdom_n and_o in_o so_o do_v uphold_v many_o other_o sect._n 4._o pag._n 2._o neither_o etc._n etc._n here_o i_o note_v two_o thing_n 1._o you_o call_v other_o church_n your_o neighbour_n church_n if_o so_o they_o be_v your_o sister_n church_n and_o then_o how_o be_v it_o that_o you_o will_v not_o admit_v all_o the_o member_n of_o their_o church_n unto_o your_o communion_n at_o the_o table_n of_o the_o lord_n will_v you_o or_o dare_v you_o communicate_v with_o they_o or_o not_o if_o you_o dare_v how_o dare_v you_o not_o admit_v they_o all_o unto_o your_o communion_n if_o you_o dare_v 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