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A81501 The Discipline and order of particular churches, no novelty. Proved from Scripture, reason, autiquity, and the most eminent modern divines. Or, A discourse of the church, in a scripture notion, with her extent, power and practice, tending to moderate the minds of men, toward dissenters in matters ecclesiastical, and to acquit such from the charge of innovation, faction, separation, schism, and breach of union and peace in the church, who cannot conform in many things to the rules, canons, and practices of others. / By a Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. Lover of truth, peace, unity, and order. 1675 (1675) Wing D1558A; ESTC R174652 61,995 98

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aug._n epist_n 100_o cyprian_a epist_n 68_o and_o cyprian_n himself_o say_v that_o the_o right_n of_o choose_v such_o as_o be_v fit_a and_o refuse_v the_o unworthy_a belong_v to_o the_o people_n and_o whole_a church_n and_o that_o by_o divine_a authority_n and_o that_o the_o officer_n and_o people_n do_v consult_v about_o it_o with_o common_a consent_n and_o for_o these_o thing_n he_o be_v quote_v by_o the_o magdeburg_n writer_n cent._n 3._o cap._n 7._o col_fw-fr 153.173_o 174_o 175._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 135_o 136.146_o and_o also_o that_o the_o people_n do_v consider_v the_o life_n and_o manner_n of_o the_o person_n to_o be_v choose_v and_o judge_v and_o much_o more_o to_o this_o purpose_n in_o those_o place_n before_o 11._o john_n ferus_fw-la a_o friar_n in_o his_o comment_n upon_o act._n 11._o and_o magdeburg_n cent._n 5._o cap._n 6._o col_fw-fr 178_o 179_o 180._o now_o we_o shall_v add_v a_o few_o testimony_n and_o judgement_n of_o latter_a age_n and_o of_o man_n otherwise_o 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council_n of_o the_o lord_n lest_o the_o example_n of_o take_v it_o by_o nomination_n of_o peter_n shall_v pass_v to_o posterity_n and_o derogate_v from_o the_o free_a providence_n of_o the_o church_n in_o choose_v of_o her_o own_o bishop_n geneb●ard_n chronolg_n l._n 3._o in_o lin._n see_v more_o l._n 4._o seculo_fw-la 11._o cite_v in_o the_o same_o confer_v cap._n 7._o l_o ●76_n council_n trident._n in_o english_a lib_n 7._o p._n 590_o 591.598_o see_v more_o of_o the_o same_o council_n lib._n 8._o p._n 725._o and_o he_o that_o write_v this_o history_n complain_v against_o rome_n about_o this_o in_o these_o word_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n grant_v not_o the_o people_n the_o election_n of_o their_o minister_n which_o certain_o say_v he_o be_v a_o apostolical_a institution_n continue_v more_o than_o 800_o year_n council_n trident._n lib._n 2._o p._n 163._o bishop_n jewel_n in_o his_o reply_n to_o mr._n harding_n p._n 230._o say_v out_o of_o cyprian_a lib._n 1._o epist_n 4._o that_o the_o bishopric_n be_v bestow_v upon_o sabinus_n by_o the_o consent_n and_o voice_n of_o the_o whole_a brotherhood_n of_o that_o church_n to_o which_o he_o be_v to_o be_v bishop_n he_o there_o say_v that_o honorius_n the_o emperor_n write_v to_o boneface_v do_v agree_v he_o to_o be_v bishop_n who_o some_o of_o the_o clergy_n and_o whole_a brotherhood_n shall_v choose_v and_o the_o bishop_n himself_o then_o there_o affirm_v from_o hence_o that_o every_o particular_a church_n be_v call_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o after_o in_o p._n 282._o the_o bishop_n affirm_v that_o cyprian_a in_o the_o same_o place_n say_v that_o the_o people_n be_v obedient_a to_o god_n law_n have_v power_n especial_o to_o choose_v worthy_a or_o refuse_v unworthy_a priest_n mr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o irenicum_fw-la p._n 306._o quote_v tertul._n exhort_v castil_v c._n 7._o for_o these_o word_n that_o all_o the_o difference_n between_o the_o minister_n and_o people_n come_v from_o the_o church_n authority_n and_o again_o p._n 416._o himself_n say_v that_o episcopal_a man_n will_v hardly_o find_v any_o evidence_n in_o scripture_n or_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n for_o church_n consist_v of_o many_o fix_a congregation_n for_o worship_n under_o the_o charge_n of_o one_o man_n nor_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n for_o the_o ordination_n of_o bishop_n without_o the_o precede_a election_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o at_o least_o consent_n and_o approbation_n of_o the_o people_n so_o much_o he_o allow_v there_o and_o something_o more_o in_o p._n 339._o where_o he_o use_v these_o word_n speak_v of_o elder_n now_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o people_n which_o be_v use_v in_o the_o primitive_a time_n be_v grow_v out_o of_o use_n etc._n etc._n by_o which_o he_o confess_v it_o to_o be_v the_o primitive_a practice_n but_o mr._n stillingfleet_n have_v as_o he_o say_v be_v at_o the_o pain_n to_o transcribe_v some_o of_o bishop_n cranmer_n word_n they_o will_v serve_v well_o here_o and_o we_o shall_v again_o transcribe_v so_o much_o of_o they_o as_o speak_v to_o this_o particular_a see_v they_o in_o the_o same_o irenicum_fw-la p._n 391_o 392._o they_o be_v these_o that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n when_o there_o be_v no_o christian_a prince_n by_o who_o authority_n minister_n of_o god_n word_n may_v be_v appoint_v nor_o sin_n be_v correct_v by_o the_o sword_n there_o be_v no_o remedy_n then_o for_o correction_n of_o vice_n or_o appointment_n of_o minister_n but_o only_o the_o consent_n of_o christian_a multitude_n among_o themselves_o by_o a_o uniform_a consent_n to_o follow_v the_o advice_n and_o persuasion_n of_o such_o person_n who_o god_n have_v most_o endue_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o wisdom_n and_o council_n etc._n etc._n sometime_o the_o apostle_n and_o other_o unto_o who_o god_n have_v give_v abundance_n of_o his_o spirit_n send_v or_o appoint_v minister_n of_o god_n
6._o col_fw-fr 114._o 115._o and_o they_o also_o say_v that_o nicephorus_n and_o clement_n write_v that_o they_o ha●_n here_o psalm_n compose_v by_o the_o faithful_a cent._n 2._o c._n 6_o col._n 115.116_o and_o for_o the_o manner_n they_o further_o in_o the_o same_o 114._o col_fw-fr say_v that_o here_o they_o read_v th●_n scripture_n as_o they_o can_v and_o he_o that_o be_v chief_a o●_n do_v preside_v pray_v and_o give_v thanks_o as_o he_o be_v abl●_n and_o so_o other_o thing_n as_o above_o and_o to_o this_o tert●_n in_o his_o say_a apol._n cap._n 30._o p._n 119._o say_v that_o the_o prayer_n no_o man_n do_v prescribe_v or_o declare_v to_o the_o what_o to_o say_v because_o say_v he_o it_o be_v our_o heart_n w●_n pray_v a_o prayer_n conceive_v and_o produce_v &c_n &c_n a●_n it_o be_v decree_v at_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n again_o read_v of_o any_o thing_n but_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n in_o these_o church_n magdeburg_n cent._n 4._o c._n 6._o col._n 412._o no_o other_o service_n or_o prescribe_v form_n or_o any_o read_n of_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n once_o mention_v to_o be_v use_v in_o those_o day_n it_o be_v true_a in_o process_n of_o time_n step_v by_o step_n form_n of_o prayer_n and_o prescribe_v rule_n of_o worship_n creep_v in_o or_o be_v thrust_v in_o upon_o the_o church_n upon_o pretence_n at_o first_o that_o by_o this_o they_o may_v prevent_v the_o spread_a of_o the_o arian_n heresy_n which_o say_v they_o man_n may_v vent_v in_o prayer_n if_o they_o have_v liberty_n to_o have_v pray_v what_o they_o have_v please_v therefore_o they_o agree_v that_o minister_n shall_v make_v their_o own_o form_n and_o pray_v no_o other_o then_o after_o that_o these_o form_n shall_v not_o be_v use_v till_o he_o have_v confer_v with_o some_o of_o the_o able_a brethren_n of_o the_o church_n whereof_o he_o be_v minister_n then_o the_o next_o step_n be_v that_o this_o prayer_n must_v be_v approve_v of_o by_o a_o council_n ere_o they_o may_v use_v they_o again_o that_o one_o and_o the_o same_o form_n shall_v be_v use_v in_o several_a church_n as_o it_o be_v at_o this_o day_n all_o which_o such_o as_o be_v acquaint_v with_o history_n can_v deny_v but_o from_o this_o we_o conclude_v it_o be_v not_o so_o from_o the_o beginning_n and_o it_o be_v evident_a also_o that_o the_o power_n of_o manage_v of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n appointment_n according_a as_o we_o see_v it_o be_v in_o those_o day_n belong_v to_o the_o particular_a congregation_n and_o each_o do_v as_o to_o the_o circumstance_n of_o these_o as_o they_o judge_v most_o convenient_a and_o tend_v most_o to_o edification_n nor_o do_v any_o other_o in_o those_o day_n intermeddle_v with_o these_o matter_n but_o in_o their_o own_o church_n nor_o do_v these_o church_n themselves_o ever_o ●dd_a any_o thing_n to_o their_o worship_n or_o prescribe_v any_o ●orms_n of_o prayer_n or_o rule_v of_o worship_n to_o which_o they_o necessary_o bind_v themselves_o till_o this_o policy_n entere_v about_o the_o arian_n which_o never_o have_v any_o success_n ●o_o the_o end_n pretend_v we_o see_v that_o they_o pray_v before_o as_o they_o be_v able_a and_o no_o man_n prescribe_v word_n they_o read_v according_a to_o the_o condition_n of_o the_o time_n the_o pastor_n or_o bishop_n exhort_v to_o follow_v such_o thing_n as_o be_v read_v and_o he_o give_v thanks_o as_o he_o be_v able_a they_o sing_v hymn_n compose_v by_o godly_a brethren_n etc._n etc._n nothing_o impose_v upon_o they_o nor_o do_v any_o than_o pretend_v authority_n over_o they_o to_o give_v rule_n to_o the_o church_n in_o those_o thing_n that_o in_o those_o ordinary_a meeting_n of_o these_o church_n the_o private_a brethren_n who_o be_v able_a do_v without_o any_o allowance_n of_o any_o church_n but_o the_o congregation_n whereof_o they_o be_v member_n open_o preach_v exhort_v admonish_v and_o comfort_v one_o another_o mutual_o see_v rom._n 15.14_o 1_o cor._n 12._o ch_n 14._o yea_o they_o may_v covet_v gift_n to_o this_o end_n as_o the_o apostle_n there_o direct_v the_o corinthian_n and_o it_o be_v say_v of_o they_o 2_o cor._n 8.7_o that_o they_o abound_v in_o utterance_n and_o how_o can_v this_o be_v know_v or_o use_v if_o not_o in_o their_o assembly_n titus_n jerom._n upon_o 3d._n titus_n see_v also_o colos_n 3_o 16._o 1_o thes_n 5.11_o heb._n 3.12.13_o cap_n 10.24_o 1_o pet._n 4.10.11_o if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o these_o have_v extraordinary_a gift_n their_o practice_n therefore_o be_v no_o rule_n answ_n the_o officer_n of_o church_n themselves_o in_o these_o day_n have_v no_o such_o extraordinary_a gift_n and_o if_o the_o brethren_n now_o have_v such_o ordinary_a gift_n as_o the_o officer_n have_v as_o to_o this_o work_n both_o be_v from_o god_n ought_v not_o these_o brethren_n then_o by_o the_o same_o rule_n to_o employ_v their_o talent_n also_o in_o a_o orderly_a manner_n as_o the_o apostle_n direct_v the_o use_n of_o extraordinary_a gift_n among_o the_o corinthian_n for_o the_o church_n good_a as_o believer_n o●_n old_a do_v use_v their_o extraordinary_a gift_n for_o the_o church_n good_a in_o those_o day_n especial_o these_o gift_n which_o be_v give_v chief_o for_o this_o end_n that_o believer_n shall_v employ_v they_o for_o the_o edify_n of_o their_o brethren_n whe●_n as_o tongue_n be_v not_o give_v for_o that_o end_n but_o for_o a_o sig●_n to_o the_o unbeliever_n 1_o cor._n 14.22_o this_o the_o brethren_n do_v ordinary_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n as_o the_o magdeburgh_n divine_v allege_v out_o of_o ambrose_n that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o first_o church_n it_o be_v grant_v to_o all_o man_n to_o preach_v and_o explain_v the_o scripture_n cent._n 4._o c._n 6_o col_fw-fr 491._o and_o fulk_n against_o the_o rhem._n upon_o rom._n 10._o allow_v this_o right_n and_o urge_v this_o place_n of_o ambrose_n and_o ruffinus_n to_o prove_v it_o and_o in_o the_o church_n afterward_o they_o reynold_n in_o his_o conference_n with_o hart_n c._n 3._o p._n 103_o 104_o say_v that_o all_o the_o faithful_a owe_v the_o duty_n of_o strengthen_v their_o brethren_n each_o to_o other_o according_a to_o the_o measure_n of_o grace_n give_v to_o they_o the_o brethren_n do_v the_o like_a justine_n write_v that_o in_o his_o time_n the_o gift_n of_o prophesy_v do_v flourish_v in_o the_o church_n euseb_n l._n 4._o cap._n 18._o p._n 68_o irenaeus_n affirm_v that_o in_o his_o time_n every_o one_o receive_v grace_n of_o christ_n after_o the_o quantity_n of_o his_o talent_n bend_v himself_o to_o benefit_v the_o other_o brethren_n in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n euseb_n l._n 5._o cap._n 7._o p._n 82._o this_o practice_n be_v also_o affirm_v to_o be_v lawful_a and_o usual_a in_o those_o day_n in_o their_o open_a assembly_n yea_o when_o bishop_n themselves_o be_v present_a in_o the_o congregation_n as_o the_o bishop_n of_o caesaria_n and_o jerusalem_n maintain_v and_o give_v divers_a instance_n in_o those_o day_n against_o one_o who_o find_v fault_n only_o 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doctrine_n and_o we_o find_v the_o seven_o church_n in_o as●●_n act_v thus_o and_o not_o one_o blame_v for_o the_o neglect_n 〈◊〉_d another_o in_o this_o matter_n nor_o one_o commend_v for_o th●_n good_a in_o another_o but_o each_o church_n for_o itself_o perg●mus_n blame_v for_o have_v such_o among_o they_o that_o he●_n the_o doctrine_n of_o balaam_n thyatira_n for_o suffer_v th●_n woman_n jezebel_n to_o teach_v and_o seduce_v etc._n etc._n the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n commend_v for_o try_v the_o false_a apostle_n 522._o magdib_n cent_z 1._o l._n 2._o cap_n 7._o col._n 522._o rev._n 2.2.14_o 15_o 20._o which_o clear_o shewe●_n that_o these_o church_n have_v no_o dependency_n one_o of_o an●ther_n but_o each_o have_v power_n both_o to_o try_v false_a teacher_n and_o to_o have_v cast_v they_o out_o not_o to_o have_v suffer_v the●_n among_o they_o and_o the_o not_o do_v it_o or_o the_o d●ing_n of_o it_o according_o be_v take_v notice_n of_o by_o th●_n lord_n jesus_n christ_n as_o a_o 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