〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o you_o say_v the_o custom_n be_v among_o the_o grecian_n in_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o lawful_a meeting_n that_o the_o people_n join_v vote_n with_o the_o ruler_n and_o the_o ruler_n with_o the_o people_n before_o any_o act_n be_v account_v legal_a yea_o it_o may_v be_v rather_o refer_v to_o the_o people_n than_o to_o they_o for_o the_o people_n sometime_o vote_v alone_o but_o the_o ruler_n do_v never_o answ_n for_o this_o i_o think_v you_o cite_v budaeus_fw-la and_o henry_n stephen_n but_o at_o large_a go_v and_o consult_v they_o once_o again_o you_o wrong_v those_o learned_a man_n while_o you_o will_v have_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o they_o be_v as_o ignorant_a of_o the_o greek_a story_n as_o yourself_o or_o that_o this_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o they_o which_o be_v not_o for_o what_o you_o here_o assert_v be_v it_o true_a of_o some_o particular_a commonwealth_n in_o greece_n at_o somâ—_n time_n yet_o it_o be_v far_o from_o truth_n concern_v 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quo_fw-la sensu_fw-la tribuitur_fw-la presbytery_n primariis_fw-la vel_fw-la episcopis_fw-la aliquando_fw-la apud_fw-la euseb_n who_o answer_v the_o papist_n that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n be_v say_v to_o ordain_v because_o they_o give_v direction_n and_o have_v precedence_n in_o this_o business_n do_v thereby_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o action_n be_v here_o express_o ascribe_v to_o they_o alone_o to_o that_o which_o follow_v but_o if_o the_o word_n they_o ordain_v be_n refer_v to_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n and_o signify_v to_o create_v or_o make_v a_o officer_n who_o be_v none_o before_o yet_o the_o power_n whereby_o this_o creation_n be_v wrought_v be_v not_o their_o own_o only_a for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v creare_fw-la per_fw-la suffragia_fw-la as_o h._n stephen_n render_v it_o which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v they_o do_v it_o not_o only_o virtual_o in_o the_o power_n
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be_v forthwith_o send_v to_o the_o lord_n mayor_n and_o committee_n of_o the_o militia_n in_o london_n to_o the_o governor_n commander_n and_o magistrate_n of_o all_o garrison_n force_n place_n of_o strength_n city_n town_n â—orts_n and_o port_n and_o to_o the_o several_a and_o respective_a committee_n of_o the_o several_a and_o respective_a county_n with_o the_o like_a injunction_n unto_o they_o respective_o and_o that_o they_o take_v care_n that_o this_o ordinance_n be_v due_o observe_v in_o the_o place_n aforesaid_a respective_o and_o that_o they_o make_v speedy_a representation_n to_o both_o house_n of_o such_o as_o shall_v offend_v herein_o that_o they_o may_v receive_v condign_a punishment_n die_v jovis_n 31._o decemb._n 1646._o a_o declaration_n of_o the_o commons_o assemble_v in_o parliament_n against_o all_o such_o person_n as_o shall_v take_v upon_o they_o to_o preach_v or_o expound_v the_o scripture_n in_o any_o church_n or_o chappel_n or_o any_o other_o public_a place_n except_o they_o be_v ordain_v either_o here_o or_o in_o some_o other_o reform_a church_n the_o commons_o assemble_v in_o parliament_n do_v declare_v that_o they_o do_v dislike_n and_o will_v proceed_v against_o all_o such_o person_n as_o shall_v take_v upon_o they_o to_o preach_v or_o expound_v the_o scripture_n in_o any_o church_n or_o chappel_n or_o any_o other_o public_a place_n except_o they_o be_v ordain_v either_o here_o or_o in_o some_o other_o reform_a church_n as_o it_o be_v already_o prohibit_v in_o a_o order_n of_o both_o house_n of_o 26._o april_n 1645._o and_o likewise_o against_o all_o such_o minister_n or_o other_o as_o shall_v publish_v or_o maintain_v by_o preach_v write_v print_v or_o any_o other_o way_n any_o thing_n against_o or_o in_o derogation_n of_o the_o church-government_n which_o be_v now_o establish_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o both_o house_n of_o parliament_n and_o also_o against_o all_o and_o every_o person_n or_o person_n who_o shall_v willing_o and_o purposely_o interrupt_v or_o disturb_v a_o preacher_n who_o be_v in_o the_o public_a exercise_n of_o his_o function_n and_o all_o justice_n of_o peace_n sheriff_n mayor_n bailiff_n and_o other_o head-officer_n of_o corporation_n and_o all_o officer_n of_o the_o army_n be_v to_o take_v notice_n of_o this_o declaration_n and_o by_o all_o lawful_a way_n and_o mean_n to_o prevent_v offence_n of_o this_o kind_n and_o to_o apprehend_v the_o offender_n and_o give_v notice_n hereof_o unto_o this_o house_n that_o thereupon_o course_n may_v be_v speedy_o take_v for_o a_o due_a punishment_n to_o be_v inflict_v on_o they_o for_o the_o example_n of_o the_o best_a reform_a church_n if_o thereby_o you_o understand_v as_o some_o do_v those_o of_o new-england_n how_o ever_o their_o elder_n speak_v â—â—_o part_n as_o you_o have_v do_v yet_o by_o their_o practice_n they_o make_v it_o essential_a for_o why_o else_o be_v it_o that_o they_o put_v the_o power_n and_o aâ—t_v of_o ordain_v into_o the_o people_n hand_n or_o some_o of_o their_o depute_v when_o they_o have_v no_o officer_n and_o in_o their_o doctrine_n they_o hold_v it_o necessary_a by_o divine_a institution_n *_o 67._o church_n government_n and_o church_n covenant_n discuss_v pag._n 67._o for_o those_o of_o the_o separation_n these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o their_o confession_n art_n 23._o that_o every_o christian_a congregation_n have_v power_n and_o commandment_n to_o elect_v and_o ordain_v their_o own_o ministry_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n in_o god_n word_n prescribe_v and_o if_o there_o be_v a_o commandment_n for_o ordination_n as_o well_o as_o for_o election_n why_o shall_v not_o the_o former_a be_v essentials_n as_o well_o as_o in_o their_o account_n the_o latter_a be_v whether_o every_o congregation_n have_v the_o power_n be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o present_a question_n and_o therefore_o as_o they_o affirm_v it_o i_o deny_v it_o and_o pass_v it_o by_o those_o who_o be_v wont_a to_o â—e_v call_v 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reverend_a mr._n arthur_n hildersham_n who_o in_o that_o letter_n which_o johnson_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o ministry_n 117._o ministry_n page_n 117._o pretend_v to_o answer_v make_v a_o right_a ordination_n into_o the_o office_n a_o substantial_a part_n of_o a_o true_a call_v to_o the_o ministry_n the_o other_o mr._n h._n jacob_n who_o old_a book_n have_v furnish_v those_o who_o be_v know_v among_o we_o by_o the_o name_n of_o independent_o with_o their_o new_a light_n and_o all_o subtlety_n whereby_o they_o will_v be_v think_v to_o distinguish_v themselves_o from_o brownist_n there_o be_v two_o essential_a part_n of_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n these_o be_v his_o word_n 299._o word_n attestation_n ch_z 8._o pag._n 299._o election_n and_o ordination_n and_o though_o he_o make_v imposition_n of_o hand_n but_o a_o ceremony_n yet_o he_o add_v howbeit_o i_o suppose_v christ_n church_n offend_v in_o omit_v of_o it_o for_o though_o it_o be_v but_o a_o ceremony_n yet_o it_o be_v apostolic_a and_o howsoever_o in_o this_o place_n
lord_n give_v leave_v harm_n eng._n pag._n 253._o &_o 254._o the_o augustane_n confession_n art_n 14._o concern_v ecclesiastical_a order_n they_o teach_v that_o no_o man_n 16._o de_fw-fr ordine_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la docent_fw-la quod_fw-la nemo_fw-la debeat_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la publicae_fw-la docere_fw-la auâ—_n sacramenta_fw-la administrare_fw-la nisi_fw-la rite_n vocatus_fw-la sicut_fw-la &_o paulus_n praecipit_fw-la tito_n ut_fw-la in_o civitatibus_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la constituat_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o p._n 16._o shall_v public_o in_o the_o church_n teach_v or_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n except_o he_o be_v right_o call_v according_a as_o st._n paul_n give_v commandment_n to_o titus_n to_o ordain_v elder_n in_o every_o city_n harm_n eng._n p._n 258._o the_o latter_a conf._n of_o helvetia_n chap._n 18._o furthermore_o no_o man_n ought_v to_o usurp_v the_o honour_n of_o the_o 59_o nemo_fw-la autem_fw-la honorem_fw-la ministerii_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la usurpare_fw-la sibi_fw-la i._n e._n ad_fw-la se_fw-la largitionibus_fw-la aut_fw-la ullis_fw-la artibus_fw-la aut_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la proprio_fw-la rapere_fw-la debet_fw-la dâ—mnamus_n hic_fw-la omnes_fw-la qui_fw-la fua_fw-la spoâ—â—â—_n currunt_fw-la cum_fw-la non_fw-la sint_fw-la electi_fw-la missi_fw-la nec_fw-la ordinaâ—â—_n corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 59_o ecclesiastical_a ministry_n that_o be_v to_o say_v greedy_o to_o pluck_v it_o to_o he_o by_o bribe_n or_o any_o evil_a shift_n or_o of_o his_o own_o accord_n we_o do_v here_o therefore_o condemn_v all_o those_o which_o run_v of_o their_o own_o accord_n be_v neither_o choose_v send_v nor_o ordain_v harm_n engl._n p._n 236._o the_o conf._n of_o wirtemberg_n art_n 20._o neither_o be_v it_o unknown_a that_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n have_v 164._o nec_fw-la est_fw-la obscurum_fw-la qd_n christus_fw-la instituerit_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sva_fw-la ministros_fw-la qui_fw-la adnâ—ncient_a evangelium_fw-la suum_fw-la &_o dispensent_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la ejus_fw-la nec_fw-la permittendum_fw-la est_fw-la cuivis_fw-la quamvis_fw-la spirituali_fw-la sacerdoti_fw-la ut_fw-la sine_fw-la legitima_fw-la vocatione_n usurpet_fw-la publicum_fw-la ministerium_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 2._o pag._n 164._o institute_v minister_n who_o shall_v preach_v his_o gospel_n and_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n neither_o be_v it_o to_o be_v permit_v to_o every_o one_o although_o he_o be_v a_o spiritual_a priest_n to_o usurp_v a_o public_a ministry_n in_o the_o church_n without_o a_o lawful_a call_v harm_n engl._n p._n 265._o the_o english_a conf._n further_o we_o say_v that_o the_o minister_n ought_v lawful_o due_o 131._o credimus_fw-la ministrum_fw-la legitime_fw-la vocari_fw-la oportere_fw-la &_o rectè_fw-la atque_fw-la ordine_fw-la praefici_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dei_fw-la neminem_fw-la autem_fw-la ad_fw-la sacrum_fw-la ministetium_n pro_fw-la svo_fw-la arbitrio_fw-la &_o libidine_fw-la posse_fw-la se_fw-la intrudere_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 116._o see_v also_o the_o 23_o art_n among_o the_o 39_o and_o corp._n conf._n p._n 131._o and_o orderly_o to_o be_v prefer_v to_o that_o office_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o that_o no_o man_n have_v power_n ro_o wrest_v himself_o into_o the_o holy_a ministry_n at_o his_o own_o pleasure_n harm_n eng._n p._n 255._o propos_fw-fr iii_o in_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n beside_o election_n ordination_n be_v to_o be_v use_v where_o it_o may_v be_v have_v act._n 6._o 2._o ch_n 13._o 2._o ch_n 14._o 23._o titus_n 1._o 5._o 1_o tim._n 5._o 22._o and_o beside_o the_o usual_a way_n of_o ordain_v by_o prayer_n fast_v and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n there_o be_v no_o other_o speak_v of_o in_o any_o confession_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n the_o conf._n of_o helvetia_n quo_fw-la supra_fw-la and_o those_o which_o be_v choose_v let_v they_o be_v ordain_v of_o the_o elder_n with_o public_a prayer_n and_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n we_o do_v here_o therefore_o condemn_v all_o those_o which_o run_v of_o their_o own_o accord_n as_o before_o harm_n engl._n p._n 236._o see_v also_o the_o former_a conf._n of_o helu._n har._n eng._n p._n 242._o corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 90._o the_o saxon_a confession_n we_o do_v retain_v in_o our_o church_n also_o the_o public_a rite_n of_o 99_o retinemus_fw-la igitur_fw-la &_o in_fw-la nostris_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la publicum_fw-la ritum_fw-la ordinationis_fw-la quo_fw-la comendatur_fw-la ministerium_fw-la evangelii_n verè_fw-la electl_n quorum_fw-la mores_fw-la &_o doctrinam_fw-la prius_fw-la exploramus_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 2._o pag._n 99_o ordination_n whereby_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v commend_v to_o those_o that_o be_v true_o choose_v who_o manner_n and_o doctrine_n we_o do_v first_o thorough_o examine_v harm_n eng._n pag._n 225._o the_o belgic_a confess_v art_n 31._o we_o believe_v that_o the_o minister_n senior_n and_o deacon_n 179._o credimus_fw-la ministros_fw-la seniores_fw-la &_o diaconos_fw-la debere_fw-la ad_fw-la functiones_fw-la illas_fw-la svas_fw-la vocari_fw-la &_o promoveri_fw-la legitimâ_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la electione_n adhibitâ_fw-la ad_fw-la eam_fw-la seril_n dei_fw-la invocatione_n atque_fw-la co_fw-la ordine_fw-la ac_fw-la modo_fw-la qui_fw-la nobiâ—_fw-la dei_fw-la verbo_fw-la praescribitur_fw-la corp._n conf._n par_fw-fr 1._o pag._n 179._o aught_o to_o be_v call_v to_o their_o function_n and_o by_o the_o lawful_a election_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v advance_v into_o those_o room_n earnest_a prayer_n be_v make_v unto_o god_n and_o after_o the_o order_n and_o manner_n which_o be_v set_v down_o unto_o we_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n harm_n eng._n p._n 258._o note_v here_o that_o beside_o prayer_n they_o speak_v of_o a_o order_n and_o manner_n set_v down_o unto_o we_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o for_o minister_n and_o deacon_n relate_v to_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n or_o ordination_n if_o i_o understand_v they_o the_o confession_n of_o bohemia_n ch_n 9_o but_o minister_n ought_v not_o of_o their_o own_o accord_n to_o press_v senioribus_fw-la dâ—cent_fw-la ministros_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quibus_fw-la administratio_fw-la verbi_fw-la &_o sacramentorum_fw-la demandatur_fw-la ritè_fw-la institutos_fw-la esse_fw-la oportere_fw-la ex_fw-la domini_fw-la &_o apostolorum_fw-la praescripto_fw-la atque_fw-la hi_o probentur_fw-la prius_fw-la tum_fw-la demum_fw-la factâ_fw-la precatione_n per_fw-la manâ—um_fw-la impositionem_fw-la confirmentur_fw-la à _fw-la senioribus_fw-la forward_o in_o that_o call_v but_o aught_o according_a to_o the_o example_n or_o command_v rather_o for_o so_o '_o be_v in_o the_o latin_a ex_fw-la praescripto_fw-la of_o the_o lord_n and_o the_o apostle_n to_o be_v lawful_o appoint_v and_o ordain_v thereunto_o they_o teach_v also_o that_o above_o all_o thing_n they_o be_v prove_v and_o try_v by_o examination_n and_o so_o afterward_o prayer_n and_o fast_v be_v make_v they_o may_v be_v confirm_v or_o approve_a or_o rather_o as_o it_o shall_v be_v translate_v let_v they_o be_v confirm_v those_o word_n or_o approve_a have_v nothing_o to_o answer_v to_o they_o in_o the_o latin_a by_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n harm_n eng._n p._n 246._o let_v the_o reader_n observe_v that_o he_o who_o publish_v the_o harmony_n of_o confession_n in_o english_a be_v no_o friend_n to_o ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n as_o appear_v not_o only_o by_o his_o note_n upon_o every_o passage_n where_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v mention_v but_o by_o his_o translation_n here_o but_o that_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o bohemian_o may_v be_v the_o better_o understand_v i_o shall_v here_o add_v the_o word_n of_o the_o waldenses_n out_o of_o their_o most_o ancient_a confession_n the_o first_o that_o ever_o be_v extant_a against_o popery_n ad_fw-la plenam_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la gradationem_fw-la tria_fw-la esse_fw-la necessaria_fw-la 14._o barnes_n lâ—d_n wald._n to_o 2._o p._n 14._o approbamus_fw-la primum_fw-la probatio_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la fidei_fw-la donorum_fw-la fidelitatis_fw-la quoque_fw-la in_o exilioribus_fw-la negotiis_fw-la creditis_fw-la alterum_fw-la orationes_fw-la cum_fw-la jejuniâ—_n postremum_fw-la contributio_fw-la potestatis_fw-la aptis_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la verbis_fw-la &_o manuum_fw-la impositio_fw-la adcorroborationem_fw-la for_o the_o church_n of_o scotland_n in_o their_o second_o book_n of_o discipline_n ch_n 2_o &_o 3._o the_o divine_n of_o that_o church_n speak_v clear_o full_o and_o most_o accurate_o to_o all_o the_o former_a proposition_n to_o the_o first_o in_o the_o 2._o chap._n to_o the_o second_o and_o three_o in_o the_o 3._o chap._n without_o lawful_a call_v it_o be_v never_o leasome_a i._n e._n lawful_a 81._o doct._n &_o disc_n of_o the_o church_n of_o scotl._n p._n 81._o to_o any_o person_n to_o meddle_v with_o any_o function_n ecclesiastical_a there_o be_v two_o sort_n of_o call_v one_o extraordinary_a by_o god_n 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ecclesia_fw-la heb._n 13._o 7._o undo_v sva_fw-la voce_fw-mi suâ—_n que_fw-la consilio_fw-la praeire_fw-la populo_fw-la debent_fw-la 2._o quòd_fw-la illi_fw-la ipsi_fw-la sunt_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la senatus_fw-la ad_fw-la quem_fw-la prima_fw-la rerum_fw-la ecclesiasticarum_fw-la deliberatio_fw-la ac_fw-la cura_fw-la pertinet_fw-la atque_fw-la etiam_fw-la referenda_fw-la est_fw-la 3._o exemplum_fw-la ipsius_fw-la primitivae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la apostoli_fw-la enim_fw-la ipsi_fw-la primi_fw-la de_fw-la diaconis_fw-la eligen_n this_fw-mi deliberant_fw-la 4._o exit_fw-la ipsa_fw-la loquendi_fw-la ratione_fw-la quâ_fw-la utitur_fw-la scriptura_fw-la act._n 15_o v._n 22._o 16._o v._o 4._o 1_o cor._n 16._o v._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ex_fw-la qua_fw-la phrasi_fw-la luce_fw-fr clarius_fw-la intelligatur_fw-la à _fw-la populo_fw-la &_o universa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la probari_fw-la tantum_fw-la vel_fw-la improbari_fw-la quae_fw-la praesbyteri_fw-la &_o ipsi_fw-la praepositi_fw-la 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cap._n 5._o v._n 22._o p._n 348_o 349_o 352_o 353_o 354._o vide_fw-la plura_fw-la in_o hunc_fw-la sensum_fw-la apud_fw-la bucanum_n loc_fw-la 42._o de_fw-la ministerio_fw-la in_o respon_n ad_fw-la quaest_n 39_o &_o marcsium_n in_o enchiridio_fw-la de_fw-fr minist_n potest_fw-la &_o discip_n ecclesiae_fw-la p._n 117._o thesi_fw-la 39_o inter_v canon_n ecclesiasticas_fw-la synodi_fw-la dordrac_n can_v 4._o zanch_n in_o 4._o praec_fw-la loc_fw-la 4._o qu._n 2._o to_o 4._o p._n 780._o &_o sequ_fw-la harmo_n synodorum_n belgic_a cap._n 1._o art_n 4._o lutheran_n touch_v the_o interest_n of_o magistrate_n minister_n and_o people_n about_o the_o call_n of_o a_o minister_n though_o in_o manner_n of_o expression_n there_o be_v some_o difference_n yet_o in_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o thing_n itself_o there_o be_v a_o harmony_n some_o speak_v of_o call_v other_o of_o election_n both_o mean_a the_o same_o thing_n and_o ascribe_v it_o not_o to_o the_o people_n alone_o as_o you_o do_v with_o 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