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A62252	Toleration with its principal objections fully confuted, or, An answer to a book intituled, Sions groans for her distressed, &c. offered to the Kings Majesty, Parliament, and people wherein is pretended to be proved by Scripture, reason, and authority of fifteen ancients, that equal protection under different perswasions is the undoubted right of Christian liberty, but, hereby confuted : wherein the power and proceedings of the Kings Majesty and the Church are vindicated / by H.S.	H. S. (Henry Savage), 1604?-1672.	1663 (1663)	Wing S765; ESTC R24513	70,771	96

TOLERATION WITH ITS Principal Objections Fully confuted OR AN ANSWER To a Book entituled Sions groans for her distressed c. offered to the Kings Majesty Parliament and people Wherein is pretended to be proved by Scripture Reason and Authority of fifteen Ancients That equal protection under different perswasions is the undoubted right of Christian Liberty BUT Hereby confuted wherein the power and proceedings of the Kings Majesty and the Church are vindicated By H. S. D. D. Chapl. to his Majesty in Ordinary 2 Pet. 1. 1 2 3. But there were false Prophets among the people as there shall be false Teachers among you by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of Jude 8. These filthy dreamers defile the flesh despise dominion and speak evil of dignities Jude 16. These are murmurers complainers Jude 19. These be they who separate themselves sensual having not the Spirit LONDON Printed for H. R. and are to be sold at the Sign of the Three Pigeons in St. Paul's Church-yard 1663. Imprimatur Geo. Stradling S. T. P. Rev. in Christo Pat. D. Gilb. Episc Lond. a Sac. domest Ex Aed Sab. 12 Feb. 1662. FOR Colonel R. ATKINS One of the Deputy Lieutenants of the County of GLOUCESTER SIR I Have perused the Pamphlet you left at my Lodging and according to your desire grounded upon the consideration of the advantages which seditious persons suck in things of this nature from the silence of the Orthodox given you my sense of it Which task if it prove satisfactory to any and particularly to render that Friend of yours and of your most accomplisht Lady's steddy who is yet balancing in her resolutions I shall put upon the account of favours done to SIR Your humble Servant H. S. THE CONTENTS Sect. 1. THe events of these times the same with those after the passion of Christ only those were meerly eventual these consequential Three Churches in three persons of one house The Golden Rule of our Saviour wrested by our Adversaries Fears and jealousies like those that caused the war couseless Sect. 2. Their Epistle dated the eighth day of the third moneth The vanity of such date evidenced in answer to three queries 1. What the moneths in Scripture were 2. By what names they were called 3. When they began And herein 1. What was the first moneth 2. When was the first day of that moneth What the Rabbies amongst these men understand by the first month Their affectation of singularity Sect. 3. How cheap the shedding of mens bloud was to them which now they would have prevented towards themselves They would have none but arbitrary government Of all they dislike Kingly most What is meant by the Harlot in the Apocalypse which they would have understood of the Pope only Simon Magus the Deceiver Those that work in his vertue and power Antichrists The Harlot like a Bird of prey The men of this generation compared to the Cast of Sacres that made the Eagle their quarry The Pope and they meet in the Antipodes The History of Stork Stubner and Muntzer Ring-leaders of the Fanaticks Their practises to deceive That they are Antichristian Their sacriledge and their pretext for it Sect. 4. The use of Musick in Churches Commanded in Scriture in every thing that tends to edification Musical Instruments whether wind or stringed and Chromatick Musick allowable not typical Those that are against the use of it under the New Testament would have it to be they know not what themselves And if any thing it is what we hold it to be Sect. 5. Vestments distinctions of persons serving and of services under the Gospel allowed by the Law of Moses and of Nature No Vestments but Vices reprehended in the Heathen in the New Testament The Druides sacrificed not only in white but under Oaks which by them were had in veneration and which the men of this generation seem to allow of in as much as upon all their Crowns and Scepters which they wore and bore they placed the Acorn instead of the Crosse a figure which the Devil cannot abide Of happy presage to us They confute themselves by condemning of us And in justifying themselves they justifie us a fortiori Nothing but order and decency in our Ceremonies Sect. 6. Bishops Timothy and Titus were Bishops so were the Angels of the seven Churches in the Apocalypse in the judgement of old Doctor Reynolds Doctor Usher and Grotius How the Bishops resemble the high Priests And the whole frame of Church-Government answers to the like order and distinction under the Old Testament A Scheme thereof drawn by Bishop Andrews The Ministers of the New Testament do succeed to Priests and Levites as the Lords day does to the Sahbath The Lords Prayer contains not only ancient forms in use among the Jews but also the very design of the Sacrifices under the Law The comparison made The Lords Prayer the first Liturgy The Jurisdiction of the Bishops proved 1. as to their power 2. as to the distribution of their power and both out of the New Testament Their right of sitting in Parliament asserted Sect. 7. Of Churches The lawfulnesse of them proved from the example of primitive christians in the New Testament 2. Their conveniency proved 1. In respect of their capacity for the Diocesse and Parishes 2. In respect of their scituation in relation to the Diocesse and Parishes 3. In respect of their scituation of East and West Christians anciently adored towards the East Of the Church at Richlieu in France whose Altar stands at the West-end Of Covent-garden Church in London 4. Convenient for the scituation of parts within themselves They are Naves inversae 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 in them what some built with a single Crosse some with a double and why The mark in Ezekiel 9. 4. was the Crosse and that proved not only from the figure of the Letter Tau which was anciently a Crosse but also that in all probability it must be so though it be set a mark or mark a mark and no more in our Translation The necessity of Churches proved No stumbling-block to the Jews or Gentiles Sect. 8. How they slander the good Laws of the Kindome The same thing they impute to us is applicable to themselves The Harlot in the Apocalypse why so called The integral parts of Antichrist Their fury and hypocrisy parallel d by those in France English Scottizing c. Rebellion under pretence of Religion unwarrantable Sect. 9. Of Magistrates Their power is of God and how Religion the foundation of all Government proved by several arguments Answer to their arguments of receiving the Alcoran and becoming Papists in some cases A threefold book put into Magistrates Hands An errour in Government which is accidental makes not void his power Their second argument answered their third argument answered their fourth answered their fifth answered What power the Church hath to decree Rites and Ceremonies Their argument taken from the ceasing of the Cross of Christ

feared God in as much as though their Rulers were above them God was above them both Yet had they not obeyed passively as contented to suffer reproach for the name of Christ they had erred against the fifth commandment of Honour thy father and mother which is equivalent to that in the New Testament sc Honour the King which is clean contrary to rebelling or resisting him These things are so plain that I wonder any should stumble at them but that they are so blinded with passion and self-interest that they cannot apprehend them 4. They say in the fourth place That all Emperours before Constantine were Heathens and that therefore those texts of Scripture that call f●r obedience to Magistrates cannot intend obedience in matters of faith Ans Do they think that the New Testament whereof these texts of Scripture are a part belonged only to those that then lived and not to us also if not then this text of Scripture viz. ye believe in God believe in me also belonged not unto us but to them only that lived then As we have oportunity let us do good unto all men especially to them that are of the houshold of faith Gal. 6. 10. with all the rest of the New Testament belonged not to us but to them only They would have the Old Testament cashier'd and if they reject the New what Canon shall be left to walk by no faith no hope no charity would be then necessary this would be a liberty indeed here would be room enough for an Enthusiast to wander in But stay a little Those texts of Scripture belonged not to them alone who lived in those daies but to us also as does all the rest of the New Testament who live under Christian Magistrates and therefore they must intend obedience in matters of faith and that because they are words indefinitely spoken which we are not to restrain to our own sense but rather to enlarge them into an universal proposition Let every soul be subject to the higher power wherein In all things for 't is in materia necessaria and consequently equivalent to an universal 2. I answer that albeit all Magistrates were now Heathens yet it would comprehensively intend obedience to them in matters of faith either active or passive as to competent judges of them Felix was a Heathen Act. 24. yet he being the Deputy of the Roman Emperour St. Paul is accused before him by Tertullus whereupon saies St. Paul I am judged concerning the Resurrection from the dead h. e. concerning a principal Article of faith The same controversie came shortly after before Festus wherein St. Paul himself acknowledged his right of judging Here sayes he I ought to be judged Again fearing the injustice of the Judge He appealed unto Caesar who of right was the supreme Judge and a Heathen too Other examples might be alledged out of primitive Authors but in vain against men who will deny the Sun shines unless proved by expresse words of the New Testament But this being the very Argument of Champnaeus the Sorbonist page 580. I leave it further to be answered if need be by Francis Mason de Minist Angl. l. 3. c. 4. 5. Fifthly They say That if Magistrates a● such have power from God in the dayes of the Gospel to command in spiritual matters and to punish them that obey not then must Christians surely be actually obedient not only for wrath but for conscience sake Answ I deny this Argument for in commanding any thing contrary to the Word and Will of God they abuse their power either through ignorance or wilfulnesse and in that case meerly passive obedience is to be yielded for all things of practice are either absolutely unlawful and in such the Magistrate is not to be obeyed and that for conscience sake because God or Nature which is the voice of God is to be obeyed before men or else absolutely necessary and in such no man can make a question whether Magistrates be to be obeyed or not or indifferent which stand in Equilibrio between good and evil the grains of the Magistrates authority gives weight to that side it is put into which must therefore incline us to obedience for conscience sake not that humane Laws can be properly said to bind the conscience by the sole authority of the Law-givers but they do it partly by the equity of the Laws every man being obliged to promote that which conduceth to a publick good and especially by Divine Authority which commandeth every soul to be subject to the higher powers for his conscience sake and not prudentially only The Question sayes the now Lord Primate of Ireland Bramhall against Militiere is soon decided Just Laws of lawful Superiours either Civil or Ecclesiastical have authority to bind the conscience in themselves not for themselves But it is answered say they that all Magistrates suppose whatever they impose But the Questian is who is to determine for if the Magistrate or any other man or men have power from God to judge and determine what is lawful for men to obey then no room is left to them to dispute any of his commands and so the crosse of Christ ceases c. Answ The twentieth Article of our Church tells us who is to determine how and what The CHURCH hath power to decree Rites or Ceremonies and authority in controversies of faith and yet it is not lawful for the Church to ordain any thing that is contrary to Gods word neither may it so expound one place of Scripture that it be repugnant to another wherefore although the Church be a witness and keeper of holy Writ yet as it ought not to decree any thing against the same so besides the same ought it not to enforce any thing to be believed for necessity of salvation All things contained in this Article are either indifferent such are Rites or Ceremonies or necessary such are matters of faith In the first it hath the power of ordaining and yet it is not lawful to ordain any thing contrary to Gods Word In the second it has the power of explanation and therefore it is a witnesse and keeper of holy Writ yet it ought not so to expound one place of Scripture that it be repugnant to another nor enforce any thing besides the same to be believed as necessary to salvation Now in case they should decree any Ceremonies contrary to the Word of God or impose any thing to be believed besides the same and so stir up the Magistrate to punish the contempt hereof and the contemners be punished accordingly How is the Cross of Christ made void in this case Truly not at all no more then Peter and John did make void the Crosse of Christ in refusing to obey the Rulers of the Jews forbidding them to speak any more in the name of Jesus Acts 4. On the other side what if no Rites or Ceremonies were decreed against the Word of God and nothing imposed upon them as necessary to

answered Their argument from the example of Gallio answered Sect. 10. The second part of their proposition answered viz. That the Magist●●e hath no power in Gods worship as he is a Christian The Magistrates called Gods Anointed ones Aphorism of K. James against too much severity Force to be used Of the Apostles delivering over unto Satan Of dividing the inheritance and ridding the Temple Sect. 11. 2 Cor. 1. 24. expounded Mat. 20. 25. expounded 1 Pet. 5. 2 3. exponnded Distinction of powers Episcopus puerorum what Pragmatica Sanctio Imperium supra Imperium and Imperium ab Imperio avulsum what The greatest domineering power is in the men of this Generation The execrable fact of Schucker the disciple of Melchior Rinchius who cut off his brothers head by inspiration Sect. 12. That place of Mat. 13. Let both grow together till the Harvest expounded and justified both as it notes the event of Gods providence and as it notes the duty of the Civil Magistrate Sect. 13. Their argument taken from the fallibility of Magistrates answered Their argument from the no such need of Magistrates now as under the Old Testam●●● answered A threefold judgement of the Church Their argument taken from mistakes in Holland and from fallibility of Councils answered Sect. 14. Their argument taken from the Royal Law of whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you c. answered Persecution in Scripture-sense what Most convenient that all things be determined by Laws Lex Talionis necessary in every good body of Laws The Temple of the Graces how set something of necessity must be left to the bosome of the Judge Private men know not what they would be should they come to govern Sect. 15. Christian prudence in a Magistrate a supposition of theirs answered In what cases the civil sword may capitally punish proved out of the Law And that it hinders not the conversion of a sinner That Magistrates have the same power under the New Testament as they under the Old had proved out of Scripture The question why Idolatry and blasphemy are punished with death and not cursing of father or mother man-stealing adultery and Sabbath-breaking answered Their argument taken from the advantages that the Jews had in judging of causes answered The argument taken from the different dispensations of the Law and the Gospel answered That of 1 Cor. 4. 5. expounded Judaei Caelicolae Law made against them Their argument taken from toleration in other places answered Pragmatica Sanctio what The Censure of the Sorbon against the temporal power of the Pope The committing of reformation to Pope or people an errour Liberty makes not for the security of princes The carriage of Jeroboam parallel'd in our days they urge it against us but it makes against themselves Sect. 16. Liberty granted by the Kings Declaration from Bredah answered Argument taken from Dr. Taylor now Lord Bishop of Down and Conner answered Our adversaries abuse him in making their Authours separatists from themselves c. The 10. persecutions in the first 300. years Persecution otherwise taken in the Scripture then in the Law How imposing and lording c. came in with the train and retinue of Antichrist and how not Humane Laws bind the conscience in themselves not for themselves Severe Laws made against Hereticks and what they were King James his Embassy to the States of Holland touching Vorstius Moderation of the Church of England touching things disputable of Toleration in Germany Savoy Polonia Roan Who the first Preachers of force and violence Of begging Fryars c. Of the Lollarots Spiritual drunkenness worse then corporal The greatest drunkards where greatest liberty of Opinion Disputations seldome produce good effects and why THE Dew of Hermon Which fell upon the Hill of SION Sect. 1. IN the Epistle to the Reader they compare these times to that of our Saviours passion wherein the same things they say are fallen out which our Saviour foretold should come to passe after his passion viz. That the father hath been divided against the son and the son against the father three against two and two against three even a mans soes have been they of his own houshold And it is very true that they say herein namely that the same things have fallen out now as then but with this difference viz. That those divisions which were predicted by our Saviour to come to passe after his death were meerly eventual as receiving no causality or real influx from the passion of our Saviour whose Legacy to his Church was peace and unity given by his Testament and sealed with his blood whereas these divisions are not ●●erly eventual but consequential too necessarily following as an effect does its caus● 〈…〉 the r●moval of the impediment For it hath been long ago cleared up to the world that these things had b●en brewing above threescore years before they came to passe but never ripe for execution till the passion or the captivity of the King whereupon the foundations were cast down and the sinews of Government broken 〈◊〉 once removed out of the way then did that shew it self openly 〈…〉 in his 〈◊〉 an●m●rum observes to have been practised privately before viz. the sons excommunicating the father and the father the sons lastly one son excommunicating the other till three Churches were found in three persons of one house if it be not a solaecismeso to speak And truly to ●se their own words He is a stronger in this our Israel that hath not seen th●se things And whereas for their pretence they alledge the golden Rule of our Saviour viz. All things whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you the same do ye also unto them Our Saviour never intended hereby to loosen the reins of Government and to let them lye upon the necks of those that are like horse or mule that have no understanding whose mouths must be held with the bit and bridle of the Law but this he would have to be understood of a well governed will subjected to right reason otherwise a criminal at the bar might say to the Judge my Lord nay he must call him Sirra too you passe sentence of condemnation upon me and therefore I suppose you willing according to our Saviours Rule that I passe the same upon you let us therefore change places for a while and so we shall both in three dayes take our turnes at Tiburn or else pardon one the other for what is past and give mutual liberty to do what we please for the time to come and so not only become the sons of the free woman but be freed from that bondage which those of the bond-woman would bring us into it is the very Metapho● which they here pursue which if the Judge refuses and he is mad if he does not then does he in the sense of the Authors offer violence to the conscience of the offenders as hereafter will appear And least this violence and oppression should terminate in the bloud